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Hi,
Can anyone tell me if there should be any technical reason why the Flyer cant run on Honeycombe 3.1 and implement the usb host update so I can download jpegs from my dslr using usb.
Many thanks.
It might be worth trying it without honeycomb, I believe that Qualcomm chips have supported USB host since Eclair, perhaps HTC enabled it already?
Has anyone tried it yet?
I'd like to read some gps data from a SD card.
Thanks guys but needed a tablet asap which would also allow me to transfer files from my dslr via usb. Its been confirmed on other forums that the 3.1 update from Motorola will enable this so went with the Zoom
If you just need it for the DSLR have you considered an EyeFI card? For less than $100 you can get a direct connection from the camera to the tablet (or phone).
Dolmangar said:
If you just need it for the DSLR have you considered an EyeFI card? For less than $100 you can get a direct connection from the camera to the tablet (or phone).
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I know, its a great solution but my D700 only uses CF cards which aren't currently supported.
anpictum said:
I know, its a great solution but my D700 only uses CF cards which aren't currently supported.
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Yeah I have a D70 that's not supported either. I haven't gone and gotten one for my D60 yet although I've considered it a few times.
USB-host on Flyer
hi guys!
any news on this topic?
as there is already tmp root achieved and permanent root on s-off flyers, has anybody already tried to implement usb host functionality now?
I believe to have heard, that Honeycomb should support USB-host functionality automatically... Do we need to wait for 3.2, or could we get it earlier?
I'd really appreciate this (as I am also owning a DSLR from Canon), and would be willing to donate.
greets, alf.
Sure that the Flyer has the necessary chipset to work as a USB host?
Sent from HTC Flyer using Tapatalk
I'm actually working on a direct DSLR app using USB host, a preview of which should hopefully be released by the end of the week (alpha, not beta).
I'm mentioning this because it works on the Galaxy S2 with 2.3.4. I've not been able to get it to work on the Galaxy S1 with 2.3.4, but it just goes to show, it may not be 100% necessary to be running HC 3.1 to support it (as evidenced by the SGS2).
What kind of connection cable does the HTC Flyer have ? Micro USB ? If so, I'd advise to give the test app a spin when I release it if you happen to have a USB host cable.
Either way, the chips themselves have supported it for years and years, that's not the issue. Kernel and framework support and such is the problem.
What kind of connection cable does the HTC Flyer have ? Micro USB ? If so, I'd advise to give the test app a spin when I release it if you happen to have a USB host cable.
yes, the flyer got a micro usb port.
I also happen to have the correct usb host cable (micro usb to usb-female...), so as soon as your software is out, I would give it a try.
please keep us informed, thx!
greets, alf
alf261173 said:
What kind of connection cable does the HTC Flyer have ? Micro USB ? If so, I'd advise to give the test app a spin when I release it if you happen to have a USB host cable.
yes, the flyer got a micro usb port.
I also happen to have the correct usb host cable (micro usb to usb-female...), so as soon as your software is out, I would give it a try.
please keep us informed, thx!
greets, alf
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Test with a card reader or ext hd (powered) plugged to your cable and see if you get a new drive through a file explorer... The kernel will definitely need to support this functionality, or the fstab may need to be modified.
alf261173 said:
What kind of connection cable does the HTC Flyer have ? Micro USB ? If so, I'd advise to give the test app a spin when I release it if you happen to have a USB host cable.
yes, the flyer got a micro usb port.
I also happen to have the correct usb host cable (micro usb to usb-female...), so as soon as your software is out, I would give it a try.
please keep us informed, thx!
greets, alf
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Indeed if you have a micro usb cable already, connect a usb stick, see if anything happens... that should tell you straight up.
of course I already tried different devices (USB-stick, hard drive, camera directly...), but there was absolutely no reaction ...
simply plugging it in doesn't work.
greets
Then it's probably lacking kernel and/or framework support.
is there a way to fix this with root?
any news on this matter?
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Then it's probably lacking kernel and/or framework support.
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Hi Chainfire,
have you looked into the Archos Gen8 range of tablets for any kernel info?
They utilise Froyo and have had USB host since day one. Maybe you could patch something from there?
H.
And what about porting the results for the SGT described here? http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...e-versatile-thanks-to-usb-host-functionality/
I can't wait. A Flyer with notes, the pen and USB host would be an fantastic tool for photography AND for any kind of fieldwork.
If you can take a photo with a proper camera and then check it on a flyer awesome display and use the pen... just imagine!
Sometimes I'm afraid that HTC did not bet enough hard for a fantastic device!
hi guys...i ve got the SGS2 rooted with custom rom...angelom 1.7 but cant read usb otg....any solution..???
manouvras said:
hi guys...i ve got the SGS2 rooted with custom rom...angelom 1.7 but cant read usb otg....any solution..???
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Did it work before you flashed angelrom?
i didnt try it before my friend....today i bought the converter from micro usb to usb......so...is there any service that maybe did not is enable in the custom rom....and cant run the usb host....
It's unlikely that it's the ROM, as this is a feature that many people use.
It may be that what you are trying to use simply doesn't work. Do you have a USB mouse you could try? Also, is the device that you are connecting powered, or does it expect power from the USB connection?
well...i connect 3 devices... a keyboard...a mouse...and a usb strage stick....
and no led...power on...of the devices
In that case, I suggest you ask on the thread where you got the ROM. Have you already searched that thread to see if anyone else has the same problem?
i did a quick search...but i didnt find anything important...well ok my friend thx....
manouvras said:
i didnt try it before my friend....today i bought the converter from micro usb to usb......so...is there any service that maybe did not is enable in the custom rom....and cant run the usb host....
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don't bother checking with more devices or posting in the rom thread, you just bought the wrong cable for otg purposes.
a simple converter from micro usb to usb won't do, the sgs2 discovers connected devices by the resistor between pin 4 and 5 of the micro usb plug inserted, and afaik, a usb otg cable needs a 200k resistor (if you decide to weld one in yourself, double check the number against other threads, i am not sure about that). simple converters, adapters and even some "usb otg" marked cables don't have a resistor in there.
and if the correct resistor is present in the plug, the device should discover the cable when plugged in, and then you can connect any device afterwards and get another notification. (as is seen in the usb otg video in the accessories section.)
i hope you did not pay too much on that cable, or have the possibility to return it for a refund or exchange, because yours has little to no known uses.
Thanks Chef, I didn't know that. That's the "something new" that I learnt today
thx my friend..i give 4 euro for this ****...but its ok....
i m gonna buy....this one of nokia cable....its ok i thing right... ??? http://europe.nokia.com/find-produc...cables/nokia-adapter-cable-for-usb-otg-ca-157
Since many of us plan to upgrade to a Honeycomb release, we may be interested in the USB host feature.
This brings up the question of the HTC 12pin micro USB port.
Question: If we can use a standard micro USB for typical data transfer purposes, can we also use the standard 5pin micro USB cables to attach things like mice, keyboards, and card readers?
I am thinking this might be a valuable adaptor??
vancraft said:
Since many of us plan to upgrade to a Honeycomb release, we may be interested in the USB host feature.
This brings up the question of the HTC 12pin micro USB port.
Question: If we can use a standard micro USB for typical data transfer purposes, can we also use the standard 5pin micro USB cables to attach things like mice, keyboards, and card readers?
I am thinking this might be a valuable adaptor??
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USB host alone would be worth an upgrade - for me.
Apparently, USB host is not enabled in the Official HTC HC releases. We are looking into how to enable it for rooted ROM. When that is accomplished it will be posted on the forum. When software enabled the cable will be a standard connector micro-USB , possibly needing an OTG cable. In addition to the cable and software, you will require a powered hub to connect devices as the Flyer cannot supply power through the USB connector
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Apparently, USB host is not enabled in the Official HTC HC releases. We are looking into how to enable it for rooted ROM. When that is accomplished it will be posted on the forum. When software enabled the cable will be a standard connector micro-USB , possibly needing an OTG cable. In addition to the cable and software, you will require a powered hub to connect devices as the Flyer cannot supply power through the USB connector
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I am very sad because my honeycomb flyer can not detect the flash disc, usb mouse and usb keyboard, though already using Belkin powered hub! Now I use mwakious rom because it is the smoothest of all the existing custom rom.
DigitalMD, is there any custom rom based on latest leak rom from globatron that can run current USB Host? Why the USB HC can not enable USB Host but the HC first leak can do it?
I am confused because on the official HTC rom there are also USB storage settings.
Without USB Host, then HC Flyer lost one of its greatest benefits than gingerbread. This problem must be solved immediately. Is it possible that official rom will be updated again?
Thank you for your help!
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Now we can conclude that the USB Host is not supported by the official HC on the Flyer and View!
USB host was not available on the official OTA final either GB or HC. You cannot say it has been lost, because officially it was never there. It has been sneaked into some custom ROMs and the HC leak initially. There will be HC custom ROMs coming and we are looking into re -enabling USB Host, but it was never a generally available feature so its not considered a bug and I would not expect HTC to ever support it official since it cannot be used without an externally powered device (such as a powered hub) since the Flyer cannot supply power through the USB and this would lead to a multitude of support request calls emails etc.
If you have a favorite custom ROM developer, talk with them about adding USB host support.
But understand the limitations of USB host on Android. Most things other than USB hard drive support can be accomplished via other means in a simpler fashion I.e Bluetooth keyboard, mouse, etc. The USB host support in Android is very basic, you cannot just plug in any device and expect it to work, special devices need special drivers which are not going to be available in Android. Pretty much for now you can use things that act like keyboard, mouse or mass storage formatted Fat32 and not much else. having to use an external power source really takes the convenience factor out.
I use a Bluetooth keyboard and a Bluetooth mouse. I use Dropbox to store my files that i need to sync with in the cloud. Only occasionally do I miss the direct USB connection to large mass storage.
shoot....I incorrectly thought that host was enabled in Honeycomb. Oh, well, guess I'll wait and see what ROMS come out. Now I'm not in such a hurry to update to HC.
I think HC removed support for USB host because they did not want to deal with support for it when people tried to use it and found most devices would not work without external power and the the endless questions "will this device work?" no, will this , no, etc..
Since the hardware does not support a full USB host (no power) its just too much trouble to say its a real feature from HTC's standpoint . Just asking for trouble
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I think HC removed support for USB host because they did not want to deal with support for it when people tried to use it and found most devices would not work without external power and the the endless questions "will this device work?" no, will this , no, etc..
Since the hardware does not support a full USB host (no power) its just too much trouble to say its a real feature from HTC's standpoint . Just asking for trouble
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I haven't gone back to the stock kernel since recompiling the source but I have my suspicions that it is there, and if not it's easy to compile it in. I've gotten side-tracked on the view hboot for now but I'll get back to it when I'm done with that.
DigitalMD said:
I use a Bluetooth keyboard and a Bluetooth mouse. I use Dropbox to store my files that i need to sync with in the cloud. Only occasionally do I miss the direct USB connection to large mass storage.
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Direct USB connection is the simplest way to interact with many basic peripheral. Many people just don't know where to buy dedicated powered hub, so they don't use it! But it's very easy using a powered hub and does not add the slightest inconvenience. We will be very understand of the USB Host limitation, as well as the limitations of other handhelds supported USB Host, although they can provide additional power to the USB.
So, please, make it enable again on Honeycomb Flyer. Thank you in advance.
As DigitalMD, I also prefer to use Bluetooth peripherals as I hate carrying a multitude of cables around. For Storage, I use a modified DIR-685 with a 1Tb hard drive as it is also my hotel firewall. You could use a http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/products/external/external-hard-drive/goflex-satellite.
But I really think HTC have just erred with USB host.
If they disabled it, why leave it showing in Settings Storage why not remove it as in GB?
They will get more customer complaints for a non-function rather than a missing function!
solar powered usb hub
I found a solar powered usb hub on amazon that I hope will work nicely when usb host finally gets enabled. I'd post the link, but I am too n00b, it says. At amazon if you search "solar powered usb hub" its the first link. Once usb host is enabled it at least removes the annoying tether to a power outlet.
Farsquidge said:
As DigitalMD, I also prefer to use Bluetooth peripherals as I hate carrying a multitude of cables around. For Storage, I use a modified DIR-685 with a 1Tb hard drive as it is also my hotel firewall. You could use a http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/products/external/external-hard-drive/goflex-satellite.
But I really think HTC have just erred with USB host.
If they disabled it, why leave it showing in Settings Storage why not remove it as in GB?
They will get more customer complaints for a non-function rather than a missing function!
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I have a go flex satellite too, but I am just greedy
butterflygirl said:
I have a go flex satellite too, but I am just greedy
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You are never greedy bg, just exploring broader possibilities, same as me.
Yeah its just my own opinion that HTC pulled the option at the last second on the final release because its was in the earlier leaks. But I just think they saw a raft of calls coming because the interface won't even power most small thumb drives. I'd like to see it working, but its not really of much use.
So I just saw a tweet about how on a SGS2 you can use a Samsung cord and are thus able to plug in USB devices. I had no idea you could do that, I knew with the Galaxy Nexus you could, but not the SGS2.
Is there any similar thing for the Amaze that anyone had heard of?
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So I just saw a tweet about how on a SGS2 you can use a Samsung cord and are thus able to plug in USB devices. I had no idea you could do that, I knew with the Galaxy Nexus you could, but not the SGS2.
Is there any similar thing for the Amaze that anyone had heard of?
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Are you talking about the USB micro/mini plug turning into a USB host port instead of a client port?
there have been hack up's for this since the N1 that even let you run a USB video card off of it (with a power adapter hacked into the USB line tho)... like this http://sven.killig.de/android/N1/2.2/usb_host/
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Are you talking about the USB micro/mini plug turning into a USB host port instead of a client port?
there have been hack up's for this since the N1 that even let you run a USB video card off of it (with a power adapter hacked into the USB line tho)... like this http://sven.killig.de/android/N1/2.2/usb_host/
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Yea, that's what I'm talking about, but looking around online about the SGS2 all you need is that OTG cable and it works. This solution looks fairly intense, with changing the kernel and editing scripts... Thanks anyways, at least we know it's possible.
@faux said the USB OTG code is missing in the HTC kernel. so, either htc or someone write some code in the kernel or it won't happen.
Not sure if the Telus kernel is different but using the stock .config file, it seems OTG is enabled.
OTG support for Qualcomm on-chip USB controller (USB_MSM_OTG_72K) is what is enabled.
I posted originally in the thread that Deuce just closed while looking for guidance, but want to share something I found... I had originially bought USB-to-Micro USB cable to play USB speakers (which didn't require an AC adapter or other power source) for use with my phone while in the office or on the go; however, the phone doesn't acknowledge they're even plugged in. And that is with the phone on the most-recent- Sprint ICS stock update. BUT, they work with the Note 2 I upgraded to, which has JB, so I'm guessing it is a firmware thing. Anyway, just wanted to share that.
To use OTG on an Evo 3D, You must have a seperately powered OTG cable. The phone doesnt supply power to OTG devices, So it requires power from a charger or a portable USB powerpack.
Your phone must also have a kernel that supports Host mode to use OTG.
I'm guessing the JB kernel does then, as they work on the stock Note 2. Thanks for the info!
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To use OTG on an Evo 3D, You must have a seperately powered OTG cable. The phone doesnt supply power to OTG devices, So it requires power from a charger or a portable USB powerpack.
Your phone must also have a kernel that supports Host mode to use OTG.
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Alanis0811 said:
I'm guessing the JB kernel does then, as they work on the stock Note 2. Thanks for the info!
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No it's just that the evo doesn't supply current to the usb so it doesn't work like a "standard" usb device that supplies 5v.Kernel cannot change that afaik