Hi,
I have been struggling with understanding how to install Cerberus root features on my Galaxy S2 without voiding the warranty. When I read on the website, it was stated in the FAQs that root features can be installed without rooting the phone by installing a custom recovery. I started reading about ClockworkMod Recovery and believe that it should serve my needs for custom recovery. Now, before I dive into the actual implementation, I want to understand few questions:
Is it possible to install CWM without rooting my phone? If yes, how?
Does installing CWM voids the warranty? I still have more than 2 years left in my warranty.
How do I install Cerberus after I install CWM? I think it would be by selecting "Install zip from SD card" option in CWM menu.. am I right?
Is CWM the best way of solving my problem? Or are there other better options for custom recovery that I should consider?
My whole objective is to make my phone theft-proof using Cerberus with its warranty intact. I am an absolute noob in this area and even reading so many threads on the forum didn't help me clarify all my doubts. Request you guys to please enlighten me.
Thanks,
Anurag
crypticlight said:
Hi,
I have been struggling with understanding how to install Cerberus root features on my Galaxy S2 without voiding the warranty. When I read on the website, it was stated in the FAQs that root features can be installed without rooting the phone by installing a custom recovery. I started reading about ClockworkMod Recovery and believe that it should serve my needs for custom recovery. Now, before I dive into the actual implementation, I want to understand few questions:
Is it possible to install CWM without rooting my phone? If yes, how?
NO
Does installing CWM voids the warranty? I still have more than 2 years left in my warranty.
No but CWM requires root to work so end result is YES .
jje
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JJEgan said:
Is it possible to install CWM without rooting my phone? If yes, how?
NO
Does installing CWM voids the warranty? I still have more than 2 years left in my warranty.
No but CWM requires root to work so end result is YES .
jje
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Thanks JJEgan. But then is there any other custom recovery option for I9100 which can take care of my requirements? Also, if I root and install CWM, what option should I select from CWM menu - "Apply update from SD card" or "Install zip from SD card"?
If its a zip then its install zip
is there any other custom recovery option for I9100 which can take care of my requirements?
Sorry no idea .
PS any root even if removed pushes custom rom counter up by one thereby voiding warranty . It can be reset though .
jje
crypticlight said:
Thanks JJEgan. But then is there any other custom recovery option for I9100 which can take care of my requirements? Also, if I root and install CWM, what option should I select from CWM menu - "Apply update from SD card" or "Install zip from SD card"?
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See my signature for information for CWM menu options
Thanks guys. I will do more research, need to figure out a way to keep my warranty intact and still have a theft proof phone.
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crypticlight said:
Hi,
I have been struggling with understanding how to install Cerberus root features on my Galaxy S2 without voiding the warranty. When I read on the website, it was stated in the FAQs that root features can be installed without rooting the phone by installing a custom recovery. I started reading about ClockworkMod Recovery and believe that it should serve my needs for custom recovery. Now, before I dive into the actual implementation, I want to understand few questions:
Is it possible to install CWM without rooting my phone? If yes, how?
Does installing CWM voids the warranty? I still have more than 2 years left in my warranty.
How do I install Cerberus after I install CWM? I think it would be by selecting "Install zip from SD card" option in CWM menu.. am I right?
Is CWM the best way of solving my problem? Or are there other better options for custom recovery that I should consider?
My whole objective is to make my phone theft-proof using Cerberus with its warranty intact. I am an absolute noob in this area and even reading so many threads on the forum didn't help me clarify all my doubts. Request you guys to please enlighten me.
Thanks,
Anurag
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i installed cerberus a couple of days ago, and installing it is no different from any other app from the market, the only difference is, when you have a rooted phone, you will have an app on your phone called "Superuser" that installs a binary to your phone, that allows other apps like "CWM", "CERBERUS" "SETCPU" etc to have root access.
So when you install cerberus, and you phone is rooted, the cerberus app will ask superuser for root permissions, to which you can allow and get some added features. it has nothing to do with CWM, even if you have the .apk file and WANT to install it manually, you just need to put it on your internal SD, then you will have the option to install it once you select it in your file browser.
if not rooted, you can still install cerberus, just wont have ALL the features.
p.s done a test run on cerberus, really really annoying!!! and dumb thing about it is, when you take a picture, it emails it to you, and because your email is synced on the phone, the phone recieved the pictures, which is then able to be deleted via the phone... and i wasnt able to turn the gps on, even though i am rooted. there has to be a better one.
There's plenty of security apps that work without root.
Where's My Droid, Android Lost and PhoneLocatorPro amongst others.
Mv101 said:
i installed cerberus a couple of days ago, and installing it is no different from any other app from the market, the only difference is, when you have a rooted phone, you will have an app on your phone called "Superuser" that installs a binary to your phone, that allows other apps like "CWM", "CERBERUS" "SETCPU" etc to have root access.
So when you install cerberus, and you phone is rooted, the cerberus app will ask superuser for root permissions, to which you can allow and get some added features. it has nothing to do with CWM, even if you have the .apk file and WANT to install it manually, you just need to put it on your internal SD, then you will have the option to install it once you select it in your file browser.
if not rooted, you can still install cerberus, just wont have ALL the features.
p.s done a test run on cerberus, really really annoying!!! and dumb thing about it is, when you take a picture, it emails it to you, and because your email is synced on the phone, the phone recieved the pictures, which is then able to be deleted via the phone... and i wasnt able to turn the gps on, even though i am rooted. there has to be a better one.
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Actually, my doubt is to figure out a way so that I can make this app factory reset proof and also have the warranty intact. I think I have some idea about it now, will post more details once I successfully implement it.
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For root users flashable zip cerberus package: ******/1hTpTj after flash, you might download newer (disguised) version from cerberusapp.com
HU
Root felhasználóknak, volt pár probléma az alkalmazás rendszeralkalmazássá alakítása során, ezért feltöltöttem egy megmaradt régebbi flashelhető verziót, innen letölthető: *******/1hTpTj Flashelés után tudod frissíteni a legújabb verzióra a cerberusapp.com-ról a disguised verziót letöltve. Sok sikert!
just write "adfly" rather *******
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Just got my Aria today and I have a few questions I was hoping that people can answer. This is my first Android phone so be patient please.
1. My goal is to remove the ATT crapware and be able to sideload apps. However, I am not sure how stable the LiberatedRom. So is there a way to do that as I wait for a more stable rom?
2. What method of installing custom roms is better? I feel like us android noobs need a wiki for android b/c I have been following the Aria forum since it started and read everything, but I am still very confused.
3. Can you brick your phone rooting? Or is it not as dangerous as flashing a rom on an WinMo?
4. For those that have used LiberateRom, how stable is it?
Thanks for all the help and I have a few more questions, but I forgot them b/c I am excited about this phone. Ill add them once I remember them.
I've been using Liberated for nearly three weeks and it's been perfectly stable. I'm currently using B003 though. Can't speak for the newer betas.
Please take a look at the threads in the Aria Development forum as it would have the answers to most of these questions.
That being said the Liberated ROM is the stock ROM with root and busybox added, but the crapware has been removed. There are no changes to the ROM itself.
I haven't heard anyone bricking their Aria yet, but that doesn't mean it isn't possible. Always follow the instructions posted for flashing. Right now the Unrevoked tool is probably the best way to flash new ROMS though.
Ive been using the Boo3 for a few weeks now and its great because all the ATT crap was removed. It never messed up on me.
The hardest part for flashing this rom is getting into clockwork recovery to flash it. But once you do and you flash you will have root, then you can install ROM manager from the market and reboot into clockwork at any time easily to flash any ROM you want. Did i mention It gives you ROOT
You can always return to stock at any time by installing the original ROM from HTC site.
Thundervore said:
Ive been using the Boo3 for a few weeks now and its great because all the ATT crap was removed. It never messed up on me.
The hardest part for flashing this rom is getting into clockwork recovery to flash it. But once you do and you flash you will have root, then you can install ROM manager from the market and reboot into clockwork at any time easily to flash any ROM you want. Did i mention It gives you ROOT
You can always return to stock at any time by installing the original ROM from HTC site.
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Can you explain the concept of root?
I am sorry if that is a super-noob question, but I like learning stuff. Thanks in advance.
tilt4life2 said:
Can you explain the concept of root?
I am sorry if that is a super-noob question, but I like learning stuff. Thanks in advance.
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Rooting a phone simply means giving it Administrative rights. An unrooted (stock) phone is like having a guest account. With a rooted phone, you can do almost anything; flash custom roms, make a nandroid, permenantly remove unwanted apps.
Just got my Aria about a week ago and researched and rooted it with attn1's Liberated b003 in less than 24 hours, haha. I'm a total android noob myself
churapa said:
Rooting a phone simply means giving it Administrative rights. An unrooted (stock) phone is like having a guest account. With a rooted phone, you can do almost anything; flash custom roms, make a nandroid, permenantly remove unwanted apps.
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Thanks for that explanation. A few more questions:
1. I am still using my Tilt as my phone until the skin and screen protector for my Aria arrive so I don't have any relevant data on there. Would a Nandroid backup still be necessary?
2. What is the proper way to shut down applications? I couldn't do it for the life of me so I downloaded Advanced Task Killer from the market which was great.
3. Can you access Market without entering your Google account info? The reason I ask is that initial in put in my info and it copied all my Gmail contacts to the phone which I didn't want.
4. I am assuming if you sideload apps you can choose to install in on an SD, but is there anyway to install Market apps to sd?
tilt4life2 said:
1. I am still using my Tilt as my phone until the skin and screen protector for my Aria arrive so I don't have any relevant data on there. Would a Nandroid backup still be necessary?
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A nandroid backup is used to restore your phone as it is. If you haven't got any data on it then making a nandroid backup sort of defeats the purpose I think. Also, you need to already have root and clockwork if you want to make a nandroid backup [I think] so it is not as if you even could create a backup prior to rooting.
tilt4life2 said:
2. What is the proper way to shut down applications? I couldn't do it for the life of me so I downloaded Advanced Task Killer from the market which was great.
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It basically depends upon the application. Some have the ability to quit when you select the menu button, while others continue to run in the background.
You can selectively kill apps by going to "running services" found under the "applications" setting on the phone. No app required.
tilt4life2 said:
3. Can you access Market without entering your Google account info? The reason I ask is that initial in put in my info and it copied all my Gmail contacts to the phone which I didn't want.
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I think you must sign into your google account to use market.
However, in "accounts and sync" under the phone's settings there is an option to disable contact syncing for your google account.
Or, you could just create a new google account with no contacts and log in using that.
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4. I am assuming if you sideload apps you can choose to install in on an SD, but is there anyway to install Market apps to sd?
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I think whether or not you can install apps to the SD card depends upon the app, not how you install it
From what I remember Android 2.2 will have native apps to SD support but it will be up to the specific developer to enable this feature on their app.
Check the forums, as there is(are) definitely a thread or two discussing installation of apps to the SD card.
Sent from my HTC Liberty using XDA App
oahceasgnikgneas said:
A nandroid backup is used to restore your phone as it is. If you haven't got any data on it then making a nandroid backup sort of defeats the purpose I think. Also, you need to already have root and clockwork if you want to make a nandroid backup [I think] so it is not as if you even could create a backup prior to rooting.
It basically depends upon the application. Some have the ability to quit when you select the menu button, while others continue to run in the background.
You can selectively kill apps by going to "running services" found under the "applications" setting on the phone. No app required.
I think you must sign into your google account to use market.
However, in "accounts and sync" under the phone's settings there is an option to disable contact syncing for your google account.
Or, you could just create a new google account with no contacts and log in using that.
I think whether or not you can install apps to the SD card depends upon the app, not how you install it
From what I remember Android 2.2 will have native apps to SD support but it will be up to the specific developer to enable this feature on their app.
Check the forums, as there is(are) definitely a thread or two discussing installation of apps to the SD card.
Sent from my HTC Liberty using XDA App
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Thanks for the clarification again. I actually understand Android things now.
Installing a new ROM on the Aria
How do you get into the "command prompts" on the Aria (after installing unrevoked 3) so you can install a new ROM on the device?
notec said:
How do you get into the "command prompts" on the Aria (after installing unrevoked 3) so you can install a new ROM on the device?
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Search is your best friend on the forum. The instructions for installing a new ROM on a rooted machine has been covered on many threads.
Regards,
Tom
Fair warning: I've never rooted a phone before. I've dabbled in ADB with my nook color, but am far from comfortable with it. I installed Honeycomb on the nook color, then decided to just go simple with autonooter.
Now, I'm thinking of rooting my new Thunderbolt. Mostly because I'd like to get rid of all of the bloatware and try to get all of the performance out of my phone as I can get. After having the Droid1 for a couple of years, I do not want to see my phone get laggy like my D1 did.
So here come the beginner questions: once I root the phone, I know I need to get ROM Manager and Titanium Backup. Those apps will let me be able to get back all of my data and preferences, etc once I switch ROMs right?
What else will I need after rooting? Is it a simple process to flash a new ROM?
Can anyone suggest a (mostly) stock ROM that just gets rid of the bloatware and gives the phones performance a boost?
Also, does a rooted phone require a lot of maintenance? For instance, will I have to be updating ROMS often? Also, if an OTA comes out for non-rooted phones, do these updates get worked into the ROMs quickly? I dont want to be without a necessary update, ya know?
Last question: Once I root my phone, should I just cancel the insurance on the phone? Or does "voiding the warranty" only mean that VZW wont fix it for free?
Thanks!
First off, I highly recommend following this rooting method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996616 and not using the easy root method. If you have any problems at all, you can log into http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951190 and get some help. I also highly recommend reading up a bit on ADB, what it is and how it works http://www.xda-developers.com/android/adb-easy-tutorial/
Then...once you get rooted use ROM Manager to flash the clockworkmod recovery. In ROM Manager there's a little fix that everyone's been doing: open ROM Manager, menu>clear download cache, then settings>erase recovery. Then do your backup before you do anything else like flashing another ROM. Use Titanium to backup all your apps. I recommend the paid versions of both since you will be using them a lot.
Added: What I usually do the first time: Root, backup rom, install debloated rom, set everything up like I want it and then backup again. Each time I flash a new ROM, I create a backup of it all set up and with the name so that I can easily switch back and forth. I like change
The basic debloat rom is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000103
It's easy to flash a new ROM, just download the one you want, put it on your sdcard and then use ROM Manager to 'install from sdcard'
You are going to be flashing ROMs left and right because they come out so fast. Each time an update is out, it'll be put into a ROM and released for all of us here so that you stay current. Most OTA updates will remove your root, so I wouldn't suggest applying them. Many ROMs will block the OTA updates, but not all of them do; at least in my experience.
I would not recommend getting rid of your insurance, it is different than the warranty and you can get your phone replaced if it's ever damaged. I've used it 3 times now all on rooted phones. It indeed will void the warranty.
Happy rooting!
^ +1. I did use the easy root method and had no problems with it but it is truly still hit or miss. I am sure it will get better as more developers start pushing new stuff out.
Good luck
Thanks for the reply!
Why dont you recommend using the easy root method that I've been reading so much about? I realize it has some faults, but I'm planning on waiting until an updated version comes out. I'm a bit afraid to brick my phone while trying to root the phone myself.
Also, after rooting, how can i do a backup of my apps? Doesnt rooting wipe all of the data on my phone?
Learning ADB would be helpful...I must admit, I am an easy root junkie. I just don't have the time to learn ADB. Maybe someday that will change.
Rooting will wipe your phone and I use Titanium Backup to back up my apps. It does make it a lot easier once you start flashing ROMs on a daily basis
Because the non-easy method doesn't have any flaws, thus has a lot less chance of bricking your phone. If you copy and paste, then you reduce your chance to brick to practically 0.
-Gilgamesh- said:
Because the non-easy method doesn't have any flaws, thus has a lot less chance of bricking your phone. If you copy and paste, then you reduce your chance to brick to practically 0.
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Thanks! After watching a video of someone rooting, I think I will be able to do the non-easy method.
-Gilgamesh- said:
Because the non-easy method doesn't have any flaws, thus has a lot less chance of bricking your phone. If you copy and paste, then you reduce your chance to brick to practically 0.
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This reason as well as you can get instant support in irc.
Zalyia38 said:
This reason as well as you can get instant support in irc.
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Thanks.
So to answer my previous question: When rooting, I'm still going to lose all of my current information including apps, sms, etc. However, its good to backup my phone before installing the debloated rom.
Is that correct?
Correct - when you root your phone, you're wiping everything except the sdcard, so you need to backup your apps and such.
And we should stop using the term 'not-easy' root ... how about 'less easy', it's not as scary
Another quick question: I downloaded all of the necessary files.
When I try to open up the RUU_Mecha zip file, it tells me that the file is invalid or corrupted.
I've downloaded it twice from different sources and this happened both times.
Any idea why this is the case?
Can anyone point me to where I can get a non-corrupt version?
CorporateGoth said:
Correct - when you root your phone, you're wiping everything except the sdcard, so you need to backup your apps and such.
And we should stop using the term 'not-easy' root ... how about 'less easy', it's not as scary
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Even better call it the Original Root Method........
pman555 said:
Another quick question: I downloaded all of the necessary files.
When I try to open up the RUU_Mecha zip file, it tells me that the file is invalid or corrupted.
I've downloaded it twice from different sources and this happened both times.
Any idea why this is the case?
Can anyone point me to where I can get a non-corrupt version?
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you don't open the files. The exploit one is the one you unpackage to your tools directory. The other you will put on your sdcard when told too. you can join #root and get help if you want.
as far as apps, the market 'should' reload all your apps when you wipe data just give it time. Then use titanium to back them all up.
So ADB is basically finding the root copy and paste and run ? .
Capt.D said:
Even better call it the Original Root Method........
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I like that one
jawonder said:
So ADB is basically finding the root copy and paste and run ? .
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ADB is learning what you are doing to your phone instead of letting a program do it for you. Copy/paste is just so there are no typos if you don't feel as comfortable typing it all out. I recommend reading up on ADB so that you have a bit of knowledge of what you are doing.
do i need to use the titanium backup before i try and root or after i'm rooted
Irish Whiskey said:
do i need to use the titanium backup before i try and root or after i'm rooted
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Titanium backup only works after you're rooted.
You can use a program like Mybackup Pro to backup stuff like sms mms, etc.
Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA App
As a first time rooter myself, I ended up doing the original root process. The well written instructions helped me not to feel paranoid and I breezed through the steps. While, I was confident in rooting the phone because of the instructions, I don't feel so confident post root because I don't know how to do many of the elements like flash roms, kernels, apply mods, etc. So my question is, are there any guides for flashing new roms and the steps taken before and after? For instance, let's say I wanted to flash adrynalyne's no bloat rom, and his mod package, how do I go about doing it? Thanks for taking the time to read this.
Zalyia38 said:
Most OTA updates will remove your root, so I wouldn't suggest applying them. Many ROMs will block the OTA updates, but not all of them do; at least in my experience.
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If I root and remove bloatware manually, will OTA updates occur automatically, or do I have the option of blocking them. Would they re-install all of the bloatware I removed?
Hi there!
I'm about to root mi i9100 but I've my doubts.
I'm a little anarchic in my writing, so I'm going to underline my questions to make it easier to answer me.
I have read that if I root my system It won't update by itself.
That includes only the android version, or also the touchwiz UI and the apps from the market?
Even If a get into settings, info and I do click on "search for new updates" ?
I've also read that if I root my system I'm going to lost my contacts, messages...
Is it true?
Do I lost something more?
Can I do some kind of back up?
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On the other hand, what can I do rooting my system? (that I can't before)
I've read there are some roms, or mods, I don't know it very well that improve your battery, speed and/or efficiency.
How do I know wich it's better?
Do you recommend me some?
Is there a new version of android or touchwiz UI?
Is there even a page where I can see if they have released a new version?
Finally, If I'm not convinced at all with my rooting can I restore the original one?
Will these restore my capacity of self updating?
Thanks in advance
Rooting is a simple process.
►As long as you are on Stock ROM you will be able to get updates officially via Kies, root/non root doesn't matter.
►You will NOT lose anything in rooting process.
►There is a modified version of Touch Wiz 4.5, it is somewhere on XDA, search for it.
►You can put back Stock Kernel at any time, if you need to claim warranty for some reason.
► I recommend Chainfire rooting process, as it is simple. Read his thread carefully,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
If you want BLN support and compatible kernel then go for Ninphetamine kernel,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179814
To get Stock Kernels follow this thread,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
Regards.
Finally I rooted my device, my data were wiped, but I think I'll be able to re write it.
But I can't install Touchwiz 4.5
Instructions said:
"recommended (requires root+busybox): download TW4Manager, there select update, which will install the launcher to /system/app/!"
But I don't know were I have to select update.
Do I have to put some files in a update.zip and use CWM Manager or what?
Yes you have to install modded .zips via CWM with option 'Flash Update' and select the .zip file.
Regards.
ithehappy said:
Yes you have to install modded .zips via CWM with option 'Flash Update' and select the .zip file.
Regards.
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Don't use "apply update from sdcard"!
Use "install zip from sdcard"
Is it possible to root the Fascinate without deleting data, or at least a temporary root?
Chase716 said:
Is it possible to root the Fascinate without deleting data, or at least a temporary root?
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Absolutely. You'd have to search/dig through older posts, but the general idea is this:
> Get a recovery .zip file that will install Superuser and put it onto the SDCARD
> Flash a custom recovery (typically ClockworkMod) using ODIN
> Reboot into recovery and install the .zip file
Basically for the Fascinate, all you really need to do is get the proper version of the Superuser application and it's corresponding su binary installed. The Samsung ODIN tool allows you to replace the stock recovery with a custom one, and that custom recovery will allow you to install Superuser/root the device. This only modifies the SYSTEM volume and does not affect any of your data at all. It's obviously more complicated, but essentially behaves as if you could just root by installing something from the Google Play Store.
There should be a TON of resources/threads out here and on other sites with how to actually accomplish this and provide the necessary files for the Fascinate, but as long as you pick a process that generally has the steps listed above, your data *should* be 100% safe.
... so get Googling and root that thing! lol :victory:
djp952 said:
Absolutely. You'd have to search/dig through older posts, but the general idea is this:
> Get a recovery .zip file that will install Superuser and put it onto the SDCARD
> Flash a custom recovery (typically ClockworkMod) using ODIN
> Reboot into recovery and install the .zip file
Basically for the Fascinate, all you really need to do is get the proper version of the Superuser application and it's corresponding su binary installed. The Samsung ODIN tool allows you to replace the stock recovery with a custom one, and that custom recovery will allow you to install Superuser/root the device. This only modifies the SYSTEM volume and does not affect any of your data at all. It's obviously more complicated, but essentially behaves as if you could just root by installing something from the Google Play Store.
There should be a TON of resources/threads out here and on other sites with how to actually accomplish this and provide the necessary files for the Fascinate, but as long as you pick a process that generally has the steps listed above, your data *should* be 100% safe.
... so get Googling and root that thing! lol :victory:
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Well the only thing is, that I'm not supposed to root it, and I only want a temporary root to remove bloatware. Superoneclick's shell root didn't work, and neither did z4root.
Chase716 said:
Well the only thing is, that I'm not supposed to root it, and I only want a temporary root to remove bloatware. Superoneclick's shell root didn't work, and neither did z4root.
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Well if you get more interested I suggest you try a 4.2.2 ROM you won't be disappointed
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bbrad said:
Well if you get more interested I suggest you try a 4.2.2 ROM you won't be disappointed
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Well that does sound really nice, especially since i enjoyed CyanogenMod on my Incredible 2, but I can not flash any ROMs, I cannot completely root, and I cannot even flash a new recovery. And if I did flash a ROM, I think it would have to be manually activated since it does not have a SIM Card, leading him to find out I rooted. I just want a temp root to remove the bloatware I do not use.
Chase716 said:
Well that does sound really nice, especially since i enjoyed CyanogenMod on my Incredible 2, but I can not flash any ROMs, I cannot completely root, and I cannot even flash a new recovery. And if I did flash a ROM, I think it would have to be manually activated since it does not have a SIM Card, leading him to find out I rooted. I just want a temp root to remove the bloatware I do not use.
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I don't think there are any temp-root solutions out there for the Gingerbread Fascinate, as the community was well beyond using exploits by that time Could be wrong, but I looked around and didn't really find anything. It might be worth looking around for a generic Linux 2.6.35-based exploit that somebody has compiled for the ARM processor.
Question ... what would prevent you from temporarily flashing a custom recovery to make the edits you want? If you don't change anything else, it would be overwritten with the stock recovery on the next boot, thus covering your tracks (and we can get the stock recovery back on there for ya if for some reason it doesn't). Many (most?) recoveries will allow ADB access when active, so you can mount system and do what you need to do without actually rooting the stock ROM.
Also, don't worry too much about the CDMA activation status, unless you check a certain box in the Samsung ODIN tool there is almost no way to screw that information up doing what you're looking to do. The CDMA keys are stored in a super double secret location that you ordinarily can't get to. The option is called "EFS Clear", don't go anywhere near it.
If you do find a solution that fits your needs, I also recommend you have a plan to restore the SYSTEM volume back to stock in case you make a mistake, like deleting a critical file. We can help with that as well if you are ultimately willing to use the ODIN tool. I just want to make sure you're prepared for that possibility as it sounds like if you temporarily break this device you'll be in big trouble
djp952 said:
If you do find a solution that fits your needs, I also recommend you have a plan to restore the SYSTEM volume back to stock in case you make a mistake, like deleting a critical file. We can help with that as well if you are ultimately willing to use the ODIN tool. I just want to make sure you're prepared for that possibility as it sounds like if you temporarily break this device you'll be in big trouble
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Yeah, but two more things: first, can someone give me a very detailed tutorial on ODIN for my device, and could someone also give me the files i may need in order to delete the bloatware, no flashing, no data wipes or anything like that? Because the bloatware is what I think slows my phone down. And what if something does not go right?
Sent from my Galaxy S Fascinate SCH-I500
You should be able to unroot via SuperOneClick after you've fully rooted and debloated the thing. Whoever's keeping an eye on that Fassy hopefully won't notice!
Chase716 said:
Yeah, but two more things: first, can someone give me a very detailed tutorial on ODIN for my device, and could someone also give me the files i may need in order to delete the bloatware, no flashing, no data wipes or anything like that? Because the bloatware is what I think slows my phone down. And what if something does not go right?
Sent from my Galaxy S Fascinate SCH-I500
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Does the person you're hiding this from even know the difference between what GB and JB looks like? What's to say if you have an AOSP or CM-based JB rom that they'd even know it's not stock?
Anyway, if you buy Nova Launcher prime I know you can hide apps from your drawer, so if you wanted to say hide TiBu or Superuser you could do that and throw someone off if they're just taking a quick look at your app drawer. Nova doesn't work on GB though I think, so you might have to look for a different launcher to do that if you want to stay on stock.
For a detailed guide on pretty much anything related to rooting/flashing just check droidstyle's guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238070
For freezing or removing bloat I highly recommend buying Titanium Backup, but there are some free apps that will do that sorta stuff. Titanium will give you way more options down the road though...
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Anyway, if you buy Nova Launcher prime I know you can hide apps from your drawer, so if you wanted to say hide TiBu or Superuser you could do that and throw someone off if they're just taking a quick look at your app drawer. Nova doesn't work on GB though I think, so you might have to look for a different launcher to do that if you want to stay on stock.
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I believe he does, since when I rooted my Incredible 2 he noticed it was completely different and not HTC Sense skinned, and I'd explained to him the Android operating system. And I use ADW EX as my default launcher, only because I can't use the TwLauncher due to lag issues. So I've hidden my bloat apps, but things still stay open in the background.
This might be a long shot, but have you ever tried to explain to him that rooting is actually more secure than having an unrooted phone? Try to get him to understand that with a rooted device you can actually make FULL backups of your device in case anything goes wrong, unlike the half-assed backups that non-rooted devices have to use. Also, rooted devices allow you to install the latest (secure) versions of android unlike non-rooted which force you to wait for updates that may never come.
Anyway, if that fails, I would recommend to root and freeze/remove with Titanium
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This might be a long shot, but have you ever tried to explain to him that rooting is actually more secure than having an unrooted phone? Try to get him to understand that with a rooted device you can actually make FULL backups of your device in case anything goes wrong, unlike the half-assed backups that non-rooted devices have to use. Also, rooted devices allow you to install the latest (secure) versions of android unlike non-rooted which force you to wait for updates that may never come.
Anyway, if that fails, I would recommend to root and freeze/remove with Titanium
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I wish. He won't listen, and he'll just say that it's bad, I don't need to root my phone,and that I'll break it, like my old one ( NOT MY FAULT!). That is why I wanted to do it secretly, temporarily, or something like that. I know it's good, and that there are risks. So is there any way I can root (no flashing) and keep it hidden? Also, I went into the bootloader, and saw an option that said update.zip. Would that be useful, to maybe flash the EH09 Fascinate rom?
UPDATE: Thanks for the help everyone, but I'm most likely going to ditch the Fascinate for a Galaxy SIII. So maybe sometime I'll find the time to experiment with ROMS on my Fascinate sometime.
hi
I have a problem with internal memory, as usual with many
so i tried link2sd , and i figured out i must be rooted to mount 2nd ext2 partition using SU
by the way i have sony xperia c for only 2 weeks, this is my 1st android phone i have so i know just a little
so i guessed, i need the su only to mount 2nd partition,
so i wonder is there a way doing this other than rooting?? as i knew it voids warranty
for example using adb shell commands or executing a script doing this ??
as a last resort, i may consider rooting, and that leads me to more questions
is there a way to unroot after rooting, so the warranty is still there?? i knew about rooting apps like root master and another SU apps,
that enables fully unrooting, so maybe could i do it, after mounting 2nd partition n after link2sd recognizes it??
how bad is rooting n loosing warranty?? is there problems with xperia c that needs badly warranty??
thanks in advance
mina.ed.2010 said:
hi
I have a problem with internal memory, as usual with many
so i tried link2sd , and i figured out i must be rooted to mount 2nd ext2 partition using SU
by the way i have sony xperia c for only 2 weeks, this is my 1st android phone i have so i know just a little
so i guessed, i need the su only to mount 2nd partition,
so i wonder is there a way doing this other than rooting?? as i knew it voids warranty
for example using adb shell commands or executing a script doing this ??
as a last resort, i may consider rooting, and that leads me to more questions
is there a way to unroot after rooting, so the warranty is still there?? i knew about rooting apps like root master and another SU apps,
that enables fully unrooting, so maybe could i do it, after mounting 2nd partition n after link2sd recognizes it??
how bad is rooting n loosing warranty?? is there problems with xperia c that needs badly warranty??
thanks in advance
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Definitely not a way to do it without root. Also, you would have to stay rooted to make Links2SD function after rebooting. Scripts and adb commands won't help with out superuser permission as you can't make changes to /system like that without root. Most Xperias can easily be returned to stock / non rooted with the Flash Tool and the correct firmware for your build version - assuming you have access to a PC. I recommend downloading the firmware, drivers, and Flash Tool and watching a video or 2 on YouTube or check out one of the many guides here on XDA about using it to return to stock. Once you are comfortable with that, you can fix almost any software thing you might need making rooting not so scary.
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Definitely not a way to do it without root. Also, you would have to stay rooted to make Links2SD function after rebooting. Scripts and adb commands won't help with out superuser permission as you can't make changes to /system like that without root. Most Xperias can easily be returned to stock / non rooted with the Flash Tool and the correct firmware for your build version - assuming you have access to a PC. I recommend downloading the firmware, drivers, and Flash Tool and watching a video or 2 on YouTube or check out one of the many guides here on XDA about using it to return to stock. Once you are comfortable with that, you can fix almost any software thing you might need making rooting not so scary.
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here is another method moving apps to sd using adb commands, how efficient is it??
instructables.com/id/How-to-install-apps-onto-your-SD-Card-No-Root/?ALLSTEPS
in this case, do i format the whole sd card as fat32??
i knew link2sd needs the 2nd partition to be EXT2->4 format to move data files, not only apks, so how it comes this method to work using fat32??
also here is another 2 techniques to unroot using es explorer to delete some files in /system, n another method, how reliable is it??
androidtipsz.com/two-simple-methods-to-unroot-any-rooted-android-device
but anyway it doesn't make sense to me to unroot to get back warranty, in other words, suppose a permanent
damage to screen, or whatever happened making it impossible to unroot, then how it comes i could do it??
maybe if i were lucky to get it back
anyway i'm hopeful i won't need warranty, n perhaps i won't need it...it seems to me to unroot is to 95% lose warranty, n maybe i'm lucky 5% to get it back
mina.ed.2010 said:
here is another method moving apps to sd using adb commands, how efficient is it??
instructables.com/id/How-to-install-apps-onto-your-SD-Card-No-Root/?ALLSTEPS
in this case, do i format the whole sd card as fat32??
i knew link2sd needs the 2nd partition to be EXT2->4 format to move data files, not only apks, so how it comes this method to work using fat32??
also here is another 2 techniques to unroot using es explorer to delete some files in /system, n another method, how reliable is it??
androidtipsz.com/two-simple-methods-to-unroot-any-rooted-android-device
but anyway it doesn't make sense to me to unroot to get back warranty, in other words, suppose a permanent
damage to screen, or whatever happened making it impossible to unroot, then how it comes i could do it??
maybe if i were lucky to get it back
anyway i'm hopeful i won't need warranty, n perhaps i won't need it...it seems to me to unroot is to 95% lose warranty, n maybe i'm lucky 5% to get it back
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Not very. It only moves part of the apk and not the app data. Plus some apps just don't work well there such as 3rd party launchers and keyboards. FAT32 is fine for this method because it doesn't move the data.
As far as returning it to normal - it depends on if you have a custom recovery and root or just root only. If you have a custom recovery, you have to get that back to stock as well as do the unroot. Unrooting - which you can just do from inside the root app, but the best way is to just use the factory firmware and the flashtool because it will restore everything - including the recovery. This method will return the phone to stock whether or not the screen is broken as screen input isn't necessary.
es0tericcha0s said:
Not very. It only moves part of the apk and not the app data. Plus some apps just don't work well there such as 3rd party launchers and keyboards. FAT32 is fine for this method because it doesn't move the data.
As far as returning it to normal - it depends on if you have a custom recovery and root or just root only. If you have a custom recovery, you have to get that back to stock as well as do the unroot. Unrooting - which you can just do from inside the root app, but the best way is to just use the factory firmware and the flashtool because it will restore everything - including the recovery. This method will return the phone to stock whether or not the screen is broken as screen input isn't necessary.
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first of all, i really appreciate your guidance, as i was really confused between huge stuff on google...thanks for your help...
so, that adb commands method isn't far different from stock android app2sd..right??
anyway, to take the decision, should i go for rooting?? and what is the best method??
i found apps, that needs no pc or usb, like root master, framaroot, maestro and poot, and usb debugging method like vroot,
one click root, and dozens of other names...all i know is just names..as i told you i'm just a beginner
so what method should i go into??
but first and all, should i go for rooting, i feel i'm still hesitated
as i mentioned, that's my 1st ever android phone for only 2 weeks and i don't wanna take a decision like this in a hurry
so, if the worst scenario happened like software breakdown, would it be to download stock firmware??
and if a hardware damage like a crash or screen damage or whatever, is it guaranteed to download firmware to
unroot it n to get it back to waranty??..i feel i'm still a little confused
thanks again for your help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2764341
Has most of the info you need there.
I'm all about root. But I might be a bit biased being a huge fan of making my phone better and I root/upgrade/customize phones for a living, but there's no way I would put up with the limitations of a non rooted system. But like I said, if you are hestitant, then download the original firmware, read the guides, and watch some videos on how to return an Xperia device back to stock and the problems that might arise from rooting won't be that big of a deal since it takes about 10 minutes to restore the phone if you have everything set up (firmware downloaded and drivers and flash tool installed).