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What is the point of rooting this tablet? It runs smooth and fast with ics so not seeing the benefit.
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cjbailey75 said:
What is the point of rooting this tablet? It runs smooth and fast with ics so not seeing the benefit.
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Titanium backup is the only reason I root mine best backups that gets everything.
cjbailey75 said:
What is the point of rooting this tablet? It runs smooth and fast with ics so not seeing the benefit.
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Backups, Titanium Backup, system tweaks.
UI changes with deodexed ROMs in the future
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Adfree and being able to back up and completely wipe my system are my two main reasons. The second requires a little more than rooting though.
My hulu/windows hack is one reason (flash identifies as a windows machine so hulu and other sites dont block you for being a phone/tablet)
Hulu mod, custom bootanimation, button ui mod.
Root apps - AdFree, Titanium Backup, Hot Reboot, GameCIH, etc.
Remove bloat, run backtrack linux.
There are quite a few reasons...
Block ads
Apply themes/hacks/mods - currently I have a cool startup screen versus that lame Asus one
Better & faster backups with backup apps that support root
Get access to system files with r/w access to make tweaks
To add to what everyone else said, sixaxis so I can play games with my playstation controller over bluetooth
Your system is locked when you don't have root access, it's like on computers when you don't have admin access...
Rooting gives you total access to all OS, that is needed by many indispensable apps.
The next step is to have bootloader unlocked to be able to instal a custom recovery, like clockwork mod, and then to flash alternative ROM. Let's hope that Asus will soon enable users to unlock it as HTC did for example, to avoid devs loosing time to hack it.
Why didn't you buy a iPad then?
Don't say that it could be a signal for bad trolls to come here...
Without root/adb in recovery, not that much. Changing anything is risky, and will block incremental OTA updates (full system restore to the current releases should be possible)
Access to system logs, busybox to make the shell more usable.
Other than some minor tweaks to the UI, unless you're a dev, not a lot of point at the moment (given the risks and the instability of the official OS).
Personally, I'm going nowhere near the overclock side of things yet, for example (despite my phone being OC/UV quite happily).
Investigating the keyboard dock/undock wierdness maybe - that kind of thing.
With the backup app from ASUS, I don't think that Titanium Backup is that big a deal unless you're coming from another vendors Android tablet. I prefer TB.
I root for extra file system access and because I paid like $608.88 for this darn thing. I probably will retain the stock ROM after the bootloader unlock, but may opt to check out CM9 later, if officially available.
I don't need root to setup my environment but it is very nice to have!
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I'm fully versed in rooting. I started with my view sonic gtab rooting customizing it. Then my evo now my rooted razr so I can tether free. But this tablet seems fast and smooth. I have titanium backup n know I can't batch install. I needed to have root on that POS gtab but I dont see a need to void my warranty or stop getting needed OTAs
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Much easier to stream network shares over smb when rooted
I'm hopefully getting my TFP on Tuesday. Have a couple of quick questions about rooting, though.
1. Should I avoid getting any OTA updates until I've rooted (i.e. don't connect wifi)?
2. Does rooting void the warranty...or is that only happen once the bootloader gets unlocked?
Cheers!
Definitely for titanium backup but the Asus backup seems to work very well. Also adfree is a must have.
Right now with root there is nothing I've done that should stop an OTA or effect stability (except for maybe the 1.6mhz overclock BUT the Tegra chip is rated for that speed and it is cooked in there kernel just not factory turned on). Root to benefit backup apps... no problem. Root to add a startup screen.. no problem. Root itself & these root mods could all be undone in minutes IF needed.
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senatorxmg said:
I'm hopefully getting my TFP on Tuesday. Have a couple of quick questions about rooting, though.
1. Should I avoid getting any OTA updates until I've rooted (i.e. don't connect wifi)?
2. Does rooting void the warranty...or is that only happen once the bootloader gets unlocked?
Cheers!
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You could root now with one of several methods available here. Get Voodoo OTA root keeper app & that will save your root through the ICS update. I would root now.
I would not worry about warranty ImHO as they only said unlocked bootloader will do that & you could remove root with no trace.
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I'm fully versed in rooting. I started with my view sonic gtab rooting customizing it. Then my evo now my rooted razr so I can tether free. But this tablet seems fast and smooth. I have titanium backup n know I can't batch install. I needed to have root on that POS gtab but I dont see a need to void my warranty or stop getting needed OTAs
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Luckily root doesn't stop ota updates on this device. And with voodoo ota rootkeeper you can install the ota and even keep your root!
I've been reading up on rooting and roming my DX2. I'm technically capable, but, stuff happens and I can't really afford for my phone to be down for a few days while I work out a problem.
So... I've been thinking about buying a used DX2 and use it as my testbed/spare phone. It wouldn't be activated, so I presume no OTA updates, but otherwise would that work? Can I do everything but OTA updates with a non-activated Droid X2 phone?
thanks in advance
Yes you can. You can even dl and flash ripped ota's. As a cheap backup this phone is great.
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GatorDad said:
I've been reading up on rooting and roming my DX2. I'm technically capable, but, stuff happens and I can't really afford for my phone to be down for a few days while I work out a problem.
So... I've been thinking about buying a used DX2 and use it as my testbed/spare phone. It wouldn't be activated, so I presume no OTA updates, but otherwise would that work? Can I do everything but OTA updates with a non-activated Droid X2 phone?
thanks in advance
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If you follow directions to a t, you won't have to worry about your phone not working. Just give yourself an hour or two and you got it.
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They have a point. Follow all the directions word for word. I have got in a hurry and forgot some steps in very crutial times and still have managed to get back to stock. Still no problems. And an hour or two, maybe less, is all it will take. If you need and advice on where to start or what you want to do, use the search. Still can't find it, just ask. Plenty of people here to lend a hand.
I appreciate the input folks. Really. However, as someone who develops linux kernel drivers for astronomy cameras and uses a linux laptop and some bash scripts (with 1wire devices) to control my beer brewing process - I know how easy it is to screw something up (and have many times in the past). I prefer to cover my arse before playing with something I *need* to having working. That, and I kinda like the idea of having a backup phone for when I drop mine in the toilet or something similarly stupid.
note: the step-by-step directions here are in direct conflict with another web sites step-by-step. Who is right? I'm going to gamble on this set, but just in case...
Thanks again everyone.
GatorDad said:
I appreciate the input folks. Really. However, as someone who develops linux kernel drivers for astronomy cameras and uses a linux laptop and some bash scripts (with 1wire devices) to control my beer brewing process - I know how easy it is to screw something up (and have many times in the past). I prefer to cover my arse before playing with something I *need* to having working. That, and I kinda like the idea of having a backup phone for when I drop mine in the toilet or something similarly stupid.
note: the step-by-step directions here are in direct conflict with another web sites step-by-step. Who is right? I'm going to gamble on this set, but just in case...
Thanks again everyone.
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Its good to be prepared. I like that. With this phone, however, Motorola supplies us with an "in case of emergency" option called an SBF file. If anything goes wrong, you just plug your phone into your computer, start the application and in about 5 to 10 minutes, you are back to square 1.
And about your note, which other site are you looking at? You can pretty much get everything you need for this phone in these forums. ROMs are not universal and you have to use stuff specifically made for this phone. So unless the other site was Droid X2 specific, it wont work.
Yea, I read about that and I'm encouraged. I'd still feel better about it if it was happening on a device I didn't care about though.
I'd rather avoid any finger pointing - it was a popular droid x2 specific site. It stated that using the "zergRush" would not work due to some file sig issue or something like that. I don't exactly recall at the moment.
GatorDad said:
Yea, I read about that and I'm encouraged. I'd still feel better about it if it was happening on a device I didn't care about though.
I'd rather avoid any finger pointing - it was a popular droid x2 specific site. It stated that using the "zergRush" would not work due to some file sig issue or something like that. I don't exactly recall at the moment.
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The only problem that some have had with zerg is that it can delete some files to make space and has caused issues with flashing the newest eclipse...I haven't been on the newest eclipse so I personally have not experienced that particular issue
But I have used it numerous times with good results
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this phone is almost impossible to hard brick, if you mess something up it takes maybe 10 minutes to run through an sbf and then your right back to stock. zergrush issue is only for the 2.3.5 versions of eclipse otherwise it works fine.
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2.3.5? As in Android 2.3.5? My phone is stock 2.3.5 now and I need 2.3.5 after this is over with (and eclipse is the rom I was targeting). There's an issue with the compass on this phone and 2.3.4 - E & W are swapped when in portrait mode, held vertically. That's a big deal for me as I use a lot of astronomy apps that rely on that E & W being accurate.
This is why I want to make sure this works on a phone I'm not relying on at the moment.
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2.3.5? As in Android 2.3.5? My phone is stock 2.3.5 now and I need 2.3.5 after this is over with (and eclipse is the rom I was targeting). There's an issue with the compass on this phone and 2.3.4 - E & W are swapped when in portrait mode, held vertically. That's a big deal for me as I use a lot of astronomy apps that rely on that E & W being accurate.
This is why I want to make sure this works on a phone I'm not relying on at the moment.
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If you are going to flash Eclipse you do not want to use Zerg. You will need to use Pete's one click root.
Check out eclipserom.com as it is the official site for Eclipse.
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GatorDad said:
I've been reading up on rooting and roming my DX2. I'm technically capable, but, stuff happens and I can't really afford for my phone to be down for a few days while I work out a problem.
So... I've been thinking about buying a used DX2 and use it as my testbed/spare phone. It wouldn't be activated, so I presume no OTA updates, but otherwise would that work? Can I do everything but OTA updates with a non-activated Droid X2 phone?
thanks in advance
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Get a Samsung Fascinate, there are plenty of ROM available, ICS runs smoooooth and you can do much more with it.
My Droid X2 hits around 3600 on CM7.2 my Fascinate hits 3300 before I tweak the kernel and overclock it... There is just more available for that device.
Either or, I would suggest staying within these forums, if you don't see it here it isn't available...
PS I swap in and out between phones, it's nice to have a spare
Good luck with everything.
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Thanks, but I could care less about overclocking et al. While I'm a huge Samsung fan, I'm sticking with the DX2 for a while. I like it, and it's *rugged*. My son, a fireman, keeps his on him even when fighting fires. Have you seen how thick/heavy a fire suit is? You sweat your you-know-what off in one and you come out soaking wet - and everything else you had on you - phone included. He also has a 1 yr old who uses the DX2 as a toy. She chews on it, drops it, throws it and the damned thing still looks great and works perfectly.
Picked up the "spare" DX2 last night off ebay. I should be able to start playing early next week.
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Yea, I read about that and I'm encouraged. I'd still feel better about it if it was happening on a device I didn't care about though.
I'd rather avoid any finger pointing - it was a popular droid x2 specific site. It stated that using the "zergRush" would not work due to some file sig issue or something like that. I don't exactly recall at the moment.
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its not direct conflict, zergrush works on 2.3.4 and 2.3.5/1.3.412
not 2.3.5/1.3.418 which there is no direct root method
bricking is very unlikely with the locked bootloader, and the leaked sbfs
if you are trying to flash eclipse and 2.3.5/1.3.418 don't use zerg use pete's root tools
if this is confusing blame moto
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GatorDad said:
Thanks, but I could care less about overclocking et al. While I'm a huge Samsung fan, I'm sticking with the DX2 for a while. I like it, and it's *rugged*. My son, a fireman, keeps his on him even when fighting fires. Have you seen how thick/heavy a fire suit is? You sweat your you-know-what off in one and you come out soaking wet - and everything else you had on you - phone included. He also has a 1 yr old who uses the DX2 as a toy. She chews on it, drops it, throws it and the damned thing still looks great and works perfectly.
Picked up the "spare" DX2 last night off ebay. I should be able to start playing early next week.
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Excellent, I will agree on the ruggedness of the X2. I have dropped mine from far above on ladders...and it keeps on ticking
So, forgive me but you want to root and install a ROM on the X2??
Root with Pete's if you are on 2.3.4 then install ota rootkeeper and protect your root...at that you can update via ota and still keep root, after the update completes you just run rootkeeper again to restore root.
Depending on which ROM you want will determine which version of Android you'll need...
Eclipse is the only ROM that requires 2.3.5...
so if you're at Android 2.3.5 I would install boot strap recovery and create a NANDroid backup...
After you create your NANDroid backup you would just flash your ROM, wipe data...etc
If you're at Android 2.3.4 you can do the same as above, just skip the update (don't install it)
If you are at 2.3.5 and you want to install a ROM that requires 2.3.4 you will have to use Rsd to SBF your phone to that version of Android. You can find easy tutorials on how to do that in General...they are stickied....
I stay with 2.3.4 because all the ROM I flash require that.
Just root with Pete's and you'll be fine either way....
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GatorDad said:
I appreciate the input folks. Really. However, as someone who develops linux kernel drivers for astronomy cameras and uses a linux laptop and some bash scripts (with 1wire devices) to control my beer brewing process - I know how easy it is to screw something up (and have many times in the past). I prefer to cover my arse before playing with something I *need* to having working. That, and I kinda like the idea of having a backup phone for when I drop mine in the toilet or something similarly stupid.
note: the step-by-step directions here are in direct conflict with another web sites step-by-step. Who is right? I'm going to gamble on this set, but just in case...
Thanks again everyone.
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Can you please link to the site which is in direct conflict? It would be helpful in determining who's right or why conflict exists.
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Can you please link to the site which is in direct conflict? It would be helpful in determining who's right or why conflict exists.
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It's just confusing now that we are using Pete's again...
There is no other site
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Ok, read that you are on 2.3.5 already...sooooo you will need to SBF to 2.3.4 to start root and so on...
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No, as I stated earlier - it was another droid x2 specific site.
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It's just confusing now that we are using Pete's again...
There is no other site
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No, as I stated earlier - it was another droid x2 specific site.
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So when you receive your DroidX2 what are you going to do?
Surely there is an abundance of info abroad, but have you decided to just do it? Did you download Petes or Zergrush yet?
I hesitated at first, but bam I just did it. I had this whole thing worked in my head preparing to...what if... Then I just did it, exactly how others have stated. Root it, and don't look back, we are always here to help. Moon shadow has a couple guides here for rooting, sbf'ing, etc... If you're uncertain, just ask
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I feels good to be on a phone platform that isn't stagnant. After owning an LG S-Class phone and a Bada phone, having Android feels like Christmas has come early. However I am left majorly confused as to my options on various things.
I have tried to read and understand the benefits of rooting my phone. I've only found one negative in that Google Play movies won't work. Other than that it seems like a great thing to do. However after reading and trying to understand everything, I was left more confused than ever before. So far I've found 4 different methods to root a phone. Which method does one go for? Then there's the super user access, busybox, yellow triangle, again it's confusing.
I would like to root my phone to achieve the following:
- Be able to shutoff various services and things to get better battery life.
- Get access to all of the cool rooted apps out there, like the ones from Chainfire etc.
- Play some of the Tegra games.
- And I'm sure other things I havn't yet discovered or am aware of.
I would like to also know what are the options for being able to install copied paid apps etc. On the iPhone it was easy once you jailbroke a phone, but on Android I'm again confused on this part. I know there is an option to be able to install apps from an untrusted source, but it seems there has to be more to this than that.
Then the thing that confuses me the most is the huge amount of custom roms. Then you have kernels thrown in as well. I've gone into information overload trying to get up to speed with everything and this part seems too large a scope to get my head around it so quickly. I don't have any problem with my stock ICS really, but then I don't know what I'm missing on the custom side of things.
I'm sure I sound like a complete noob. That's ok, I am when it comes to Android. For my previous phones I was flashing custom roms, and doing all kinds of things. Maybe it's not all as confusing as I think, but right now I'm having a hard time getting a good picture on things when it comes to my new Galaxy S2 phone.
I would greatly appreciate someone being able to help me with some of these questions rather than telling me to gtfo or use the search function. I've tried, but now after overloading on stuff, I've taken a step back. I've been trying to find a website, page or post that might answer my questions in a way that I can get my head around it all. In the end I choose an Android phone because of the customizations, and for the community that is doing great things. I'd like to join the party :good:
Superuser access, busybox, and yellow triangle are not root methods. Superuser is what you get when you root the phone, and it allows root apps to get superuser access to do certain root things, if you grant the app those permissions. Busybox is some sort of utility (I don't know much about it, actually. Shrugs) that you can only get on Android once its rooted. Required for titanium backup and some other root programs. I think it was originally on linux. The yellow triangle is a Samsung only thing, basically it counts how many times you have flashed custom firmware and kernels onto your phone. The app triangle away resets the counter so you can claim a warranty if the phone breaks without the triangle giving you away. You can choose your root method, some are one click and others are the traditional method.
Installing the .apk of a paid app? That's a no-no. To answer your question, you can install a non market app without root and there isn't really another side of that. (Maybe you're talking about license verification?)
Custom ROMs are firmware (you know that, since you said you've done it before. The advantages are usually a later version of Android that your manufacturer stopped on, a stock non skinned Android experience (your S2 has touchwiz), and tweaks/other features to make it faster/cooler. For example, ParanoidAndroid allows you to switch between tablet and phone modes easily, and the entire cyanogenmod series has a built in theme engine as well as many options in the CM settings.
Custom kernels (or just kernels) manage the CPU and GPU. Different kernels allow overclock/underclock better battery saver and performance settings, and simply CPU management.
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Superuser access, busybox, and yellow triangle are not root methods. Superuser is what you get when you root the phone, and it allows root apps to get superuser access to do certain root things, if you grant the app those permissions. Busybox is some sort of utility (I don't know much about it, actually. Shrugs) that you can only get on Android once its rooted. Required for titanium backup and some other root programs. I think it was originally on linux. The yellow triangle is a Samsung only thing, basically it counts how many times you have flashed custom firmware and kernels onto your phone. The app triangle away resets the counter so you can claim a warranty if the phone breaks without the triangle giving you away. You can choose your root method, some are one click and others are the traditional method.
Installing the .apk of a paid app? That's a no-no. To answer your question, you can install a non market app without root and there isn't really another side of that. (Maybe you're talking about license verification?)
Custom ROMs are firmware (you know that, since you said you've done it before. The advantages are usually a later version of Android that your manufacturer stopped on, a stock non skinned Android experience (your S2 has touchwiz), and tweaks/other features to make it faster/cooler. For example, ParanoidAndroid allows you to switch between tablet and phone modes easily, and the entire cyanogenmod series has a built in theme engine as well as many options in the CM settings.
Custom kernels (or just kernels) manage the CPU and GPU. Different kernels allow overclock/underclock better battery saver and performance settings, and simply CPU management.
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Thanks for the reply gagdude.
The custom roms thing is indeed confusing lol. You have files for modems, kernels, and it goes on. How does one even know if they need a new modem file I wonder. I imagine people probably flash their phones on a daily basis. What to speak of choosing a new kernel.
At any rate, being that this is my first android phone, and my second Samsung one, I'm quite happy with the Touchwiz interface as it's familiar.
I understand more now what a kernel does, unless I'm mixing in some things I've seen that look like a completely different UI. I might look at that at some point, but for now my stock ICS 4.0.3 on the S2 seems quite ok. So really it's now just choosing a method of rooting it.
As for installing the .apk of a paid app, yes that was what I was referring to. It was possible on jailbroken iphones installing .ipas, but I don't know if it is on Android. When you say a no-no, are you referring to it can't be done, or that it can, but it's a topic that cannot be discussed here?
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Thanks for the reply gagdude.
The custom roms thing is indeed confusing lol. You have files for modems, kernels, and it goes on. How does one even know if they need a new modem file I wonder. I imagine people probably flash their phones on a daily basis. What to speak of choosing a new kernel.
At any rate, being that this is my first android phone, and my second Samsung one, I'm quite happy with the Touchwiz interface as it's familiar.
I understand more now what a kernel does, unless I'm mixing in some things I've seen that look like a completely different UI. I might look at that at some point, but for now my stock ICS 4.0.3 on the S2 seems quite ok. So really it's now just choosing a method of rooting it.
As for installing the .apk of a paid app, yes that was what I was referring to. It was possible on jailbroken iphones installing .ipas, but I don't know if it is on Android. When you say a no-no, are you referring to it can't be done, or that it can, but it's a topic that cannot be discussed here?
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No prob.
Some people do flash quite often, yes, but I don't believe they completely change everything. Usually they flash a different ROM because hey - ROMs are the fun part. Each one is unique and its fun to play around.
Touchwiz is a pretty nice interface IMO but its personal opinion, some people hate it. Either way, your choice on that. I do believe some skins are big resource and RAM hogs, especially Sense (despite it looking very nice) and the old Motoblur. That's when flashing a vanilla Android ROM really helps.
The S2 should be getting a JB upgrade in the next few months, so if you plan on staying stock and taking the OTA, make sure to only freeze bloatware (not uninstall) and do NOT install a custom recovery. Rooting these days are pretty easy, its just that some old timers dislike one click root methods because you don't know what you're getting into and you don't fully understand what you're doing to your phone. Little secret: I've only rooted with one click root methods
Yes just like a jailbroken iPhone you can install the .apk however it is available without root.
When I say no - no I mean we can't discuss it on xda. It's against the rules
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No prob.
Some people do flash quite often, yes, but I don't believe they completely change everything. Usually they flash a different ROM because hey - ROMs are the fun part. Each one is unique and its fun to play around.
Touchwiz is a pretty nice interface IMO but its personal opinion, some people hate it. Either way, your choice on that. I do believe some skins are big resource and RAM hogs, especially Sense (despite it looking very nice) and the old Motoblur. That's when flashing a vanilla Android ROM really helps.
The S2 should be getting a JB upgrade in the next few months, so if you plan on staying stock and taking the OTA, make sure to only freeze bloatware (not uninstall) and do NOT install a custom recovery. Rooting these days are pretty easy, its just that some old timers dislike one click root methods because you don't know what you're getting into and you don't fully understand what you're doing to your phone. Little secret: I've only rooted with one click root methods
Yes just like a jailbroken iPhone you can install the .apk however it is available without root.
When I say no - no I mean we can't discuss it on xda. It's against the rules
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Yes I was aware the S2 would be, or should be getting JB in the next few months. I'm more than happy to wait for that. I have found one program that enables you to one click root the phone, but it's a bit misleading as you have to first flash a file using ODIN, thus it's not one click on that sense. What is the program you use for rooting may I ask?
Maybe I got lucky but my phone is unbranded and only contains 2 apps. Both can be uninstalled. As for freezing the bloatware, I'll have to read up more on what services and things I can freeze safely.
SuperOneClick is by far the most popular one click root solutions. It doesn't support all devices, however. If it doesn't work on your S2, that method you found (flash a file via ODIN first and I'm assuming the next step is a one click root?) seems pretty simple. As long as you don't mind doing a few extra steps, there are many methods for the SGS2 because of its popularity. Make sure the instructions to root are for your specific model, becaused there are many variants of it.
The reason why I said not to uninstall bloatware and only freeze is because when you update, you have to have all the apps the phone came with (if its uninstallable stock, then it should be fine), unroot, then update for it to work correctly. Having a custom recovery like Clockworkmod also causes problems when updating. You'll have to stick with the stock recovery.
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Man just got the s4 and this thing is just fabulous I dont even know if its worth rooting. Can anyone elaborate how much different this device is with a custom rom?
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Better. Root or return. You're on a developer forum.
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Ok will root then good enough lol
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Root it because you may need root access at some point or another
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I'm coming from two "less-than-flagship" phones, the Droid Eris and Droid Incredible 2. Both had shortcomings in the performance department, and were completely neglected for updates (DINC2 is still on Gingerbread.) My main reasons for rooting were:
1. Latest Android features and versions
2. Better performance
3. Removing Verizon apps that I didn't want (NFL mobile, Verizon apps, etc.)
4. Amazing customization opportunity and a variety of rom types to try (AOSP, PA, AOKP, MIUI, etc.)
For the S4 in the week I've owned it, I can cross 1 off the list for sure. Right now this phone is running the latest and greatest version of Android. So upgrading for a newer version is not possible.
Performance would, unfortunately, improve with a custom rom. I say unfortunately because it should be really hard to code a launcher that makes this beast lag. But I've definitely noticed some delay/stuttering while stock. Obviously this thing is lightyears faster than both of my prior smartphones.
Removing apps I don't want and further customizing the phone is a big lure, though. I think I will ultimately root, but I'm waiting to see how the roms and mods evolve. I have to hand it to our devs, though. This thing is attracting a TON of action, and I have no doubts we'll see some great roms.
I hope my experience helps a bit, though it was a bit long.
I rooted for one reason. That being said it was a pretty big reason (for me) and all the other options didn't hurt in making the decision.
The biggest problem I had with the phone was that you are limited to using only certain apps if you want to run multiple apps on the screen at the same time. As far as I know the only way around this is to root it.
If you decide to root don't attempt it 10min before you need to leave for work like I did. I suppose if you've done it before you could run through the process pretty quickly but the first time requires some patient attention to detail and time enough to trouble-shoot unexpected problems. I had to go a day without my phone till I had time to correct my mistakes.
I would do it. I did last night and it was very simple with the all in one tool. If you aren't into crazy modding, theming, and such, im sure there will be several roms that will be directed towards people that want as close to stock as possible without all the bloat and better performance/battery life.
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So I might be possibly rooting my LG Optimus L9 "P769" I've looked around on the forum here and guess I am not seeing it but, I am looking for a root that allows me to use "superuser" instead of the other ones I've been seeing, I am most comfortable using it. That being said, and opinions about battery life aswell. I've heard mixed match results on them, my current phone is unrooted and the battery life is amazing to say the least, but will a root decrease it? My last 4 phones have been rooted and never had this issue but I wanted to make sure if that was said case.
Basically my intentions are rooting for the sole purpose of removing the T-Mobile bloatware that comes with this phone. (Go figure) as I have done in the past with my other ones.
Link/Suggestions are deeply appreciative.
Thanks,
You can use SuperSU just to load the binary and then switch to Superuser. [emoji6]
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Well I tried that method, and superuser wasn't prompting for permissions, I eventually gave in used supersu.