What is the point of rooting this tablet? It runs smooth and fast with ics so not seeing the benefit.
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cjbailey75 said:
What is the point of rooting this tablet? It runs smooth and fast with ics so not seeing the benefit.
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Titanium backup is the only reason I root mine best backups that gets everything.
cjbailey75 said:
What is the point of rooting this tablet? It runs smooth and fast with ics so not seeing the benefit.
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Backups, Titanium Backup, system tweaks.
UI changes with deodexed ROMs in the future
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Adfree and being able to back up and completely wipe my system are my two main reasons. The second requires a little more than rooting though.
My hulu/windows hack is one reason (flash identifies as a windows machine so hulu and other sites dont block you for being a phone/tablet)
Hulu mod, custom bootanimation, button ui mod.
Root apps - AdFree, Titanium Backup, Hot Reboot, GameCIH, etc.
Remove bloat, run backtrack linux.
There are quite a few reasons...
Block ads
Apply themes/hacks/mods - currently I have a cool startup screen versus that lame Asus one
Better & faster backups with backup apps that support root
Get access to system files with r/w access to make tweaks
To add to what everyone else said, sixaxis so I can play games with my playstation controller over bluetooth
Your system is locked when you don't have root access, it's like on computers when you don't have admin access...
Rooting gives you total access to all OS, that is needed by many indispensable apps.
The next step is to have bootloader unlocked to be able to instal a custom recovery, like clockwork mod, and then to flash alternative ROM. Let's hope that Asus will soon enable users to unlock it as HTC did for example, to avoid devs loosing time to hack it.
Why didn't you buy a iPad then?
Don't say that it could be a signal for bad trolls to come here...
Without root/adb in recovery, not that much. Changing anything is risky, and will block incremental OTA updates (full system restore to the current releases should be possible)
Access to system logs, busybox to make the shell more usable.
Other than some minor tweaks to the UI, unless you're a dev, not a lot of point at the moment (given the risks and the instability of the official OS).
Personally, I'm going nowhere near the overclock side of things yet, for example (despite my phone being OC/UV quite happily).
Investigating the keyboard dock/undock wierdness maybe - that kind of thing.
With the backup app from ASUS, I don't think that Titanium Backup is that big a deal unless you're coming from another vendors Android tablet. I prefer TB.
I root for extra file system access and because I paid like $608.88 for this darn thing. I probably will retain the stock ROM after the bootloader unlock, but may opt to check out CM9 later, if officially available.
I don't need root to setup my environment but it is very nice to have!
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I'm fully versed in rooting. I started with my view sonic gtab rooting customizing it. Then my evo now my rooted razr so I can tether free. But this tablet seems fast and smooth. I have titanium backup n know I can't batch install. I needed to have root on that POS gtab but I dont see a need to void my warranty or stop getting needed OTAs
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Much easier to stream network shares over smb when rooted
I'm hopefully getting my TFP on Tuesday. Have a couple of quick questions about rooting, though.
1. Should I avoid getting any OTA updates until I've rooted (i.e. don't connect wifi)?
2. Does rooting void the warranty...or is that only happen once the bootloader gets unlocked?
Cheers!
Definitely for titanium backup but the Asus backup seems to work very well. Also adfree is a must have.
Right now with root there is nothing I've done that should stop an OTA or effect stability (except for maybe the 1.6mhz overclock BUT the Tegra chip is rated for that speed and it is cooked in there kernel just not factory turned on). Root to benefit backup apps... no problem. Root to add a startup screen.. no problem. Root itself & these root mods could all be undone in minutes IF needed.
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senatorxmg said:
I'm hopefully getting my TFP on Tuesday. Have a couple of quick questions about rooting, though.
1. Should I avoid getting any OTA updates until I've rooted (i.e. don't connect wifi)?
2. Does rooting void the warranty...or is that only happen once the bootloader gets unlocked?
Cheers!
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You could root now with one of several methods available here. Get Voodoo OTA root keeper app & that will save your root through the ICS update. I would root now.
I would not worry about warranty ImHO as they only said unlocked bootloader will do that & you could remove root with no trace.
cjbailey75 said:
I'm fully versed in rooting. I started with my view sonic gtab rooting customizing it. Then my evo now my rooted razr so I can tether free. But this tablet seems fast and smooth. I have titanium backup n know I can't batch install. I needed to have root on that POS gtab but I dont see a need to void my warranty or stop getting needed OTAs
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Luckily root doesn't stop ota updates on this device. And with voodoo ota rootkeeper you can install the ota and even keep your root!
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I ma wondering if anyone runs without rooting or putting on custom roms..
I ask because I just got the prime and have not updated to the .21 yet.
Doesnt seem like I would miss a ton. Just curious..
Yes, I am. I'm running ICS, the latest patch/update/whatever that was pushed by Asus.
(Now, FWIW, I bought my Nook Color tablet last year with the full intention to root and wasted no time in doing so.)
For my TP, I just haven't seen the reason. Given the expense of my 64GB unit, the lack of any pressing reason to hack it, and the (apparent) potential to brick it, it's just not a road I want to go down.
For the Nook Color, the reasons to load CynogenMod 7 were considerable and undeniable. Also, the fact that the Nook always tries to boot from the Micro-SD first was re-assuring. For the TP, not so much.
I'm on the stock rom as well, I don't see any reason in rooting the Prime (at least currently)...
Ok, so it sounds like I am not crazy for wanting to not root it.
I just upgraded to the latest firmware and it seems to run very fast and without issues.
Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing out on too much.
I rooted my TF101 and slapped custom roms all over the place. A bit scared to do so on my Prime.. Seems the risk is a lot higher..
I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything. I'm open to being enlightened, but I haven't run across any must-have functionalities/apps that require hacking.
too bad i came posting too late, cause i would say root your tablet just incase you do want it.. as theres no way of rooting your device on .21
and you can clear root by just doing a factory reset so there is only gain and no loses
too late now tho
Nascor said:
I'm on the stock rom as well, I don't see any reason in rooting the Prime (at least currently)...
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If I could, I would root BUT NOT UNLOCK. Having a rooted device allows a whole new set of apps that require rooting, and some of which I'd like to use.
If you decide to root, when available, keep the original files backed up someplace. With .15, wpa files could be changed for AD-HOC capability. If you tried to update to .21, you were given an error message and needed to restore the original files back.
Unless you want to void your warrenty, I definitely wouldn't unlock...and as a side note, you also can't get OTA update.
Bob
I am running stock with the latest firmware update. I'm pleased with the features so far, but as the custom ROMs mature, that may change.
acdcking12345 said:
I ma wondering if anyone runs without rooting or putting on custom roms..
I ask because I just got the prime and have not updated to the .21 yet.
Doesnt seem like I would miss a ton. Just curious..
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I'm still running stock here for now but that could change once I learn my way around a little better. Coming from a Linux background it feels odd not to have full access to the device.
I am running stock without any issue.
I also put the Nova launcher and EZOverlock which are a little bit smoother than the stock launcher.
I'm stock but rooted. For me root let's me use apps like TiBackup amongst others that i like and use. Other than that o have no plans to unlock or run roms. Heck I'm still running the stock rom on my DroidX rooted of course
The odds of bricking the Prime are just to high for me right now.
fasthair
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Yes, I am. I'm running ICS, the latest patch/update/whatever that was pushed by Asus.
(Now, FWIW, I bought my Nook Color tablet last year with the full intention to root and wasted no time in doing so.)
For my TP, I just haven't seen the reason. Given the expense of my 64GB unit, the lack of any pressing reason to hack it, and the (apparent) potential to brick it, it's just not a road I want to go down.
For the Nook Color, the reasons to load CynogenMod 7 were considerable and undeniable. Also, the fact that the Nook always tries to boot from the Micro-SD first was re-assuring. For the TP, not so much.
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This is me exactly. Not sure I even booted the newer Nooks in the house into the stock ROM. My Transformer does what I need it to at this point, unlike the NOok that was locked down like crazy. I'm happy to hang out stock.
I think i would go nuts without root in my prime... i fact i couldn't use for the main task i bought this tablet for.
I take notes every day in classes using my Prime. It has replaced all books and note books, so using TouchScreen Tuner is a MUST, without this, stylus are just useless.
Then we have all those root apps like Titanium Backup, UMTS manager, Market Enabler and WidgetLocker.
Ooh, and of course the possibility to change the sound when i dock my Prime (sounds like a transformer transforming, super awesome if you ask me).
I am running Stock but I did Root because of I wanted to use AdFree and Titianium Backup Apps. I have an Android Phone that I love to Flash new ROMS to and I eventually will Unlock my Prime and do the same to I just don't see the need to at the moment.
I am, but, not so much by choice. I had root and lost it with .21 update. I will reroot when available, but am hesitant to unlock and void my warranty. Especially since asus has made it such a challenge to recover your device. If they are going to give us the unlock tool and we aren't going to be troubling their warranty division with the problems which ensue, just make it easier for us to fix our own problems.
I'm running stock. I I don't know much about rooting because I am new to Android.
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IMHO, the only reason to root this is so you can say "I rooted this." There's no reason to root the Prime, the way I see it. Yeah, there's a little bit of bloatware, but far less than was on my Samsung Galaxy S when I bought it, and with the 64 GB of memory it's not really necessary. I do wish that I could move apps to my SD card, so that could be a reason to root, but not a big enough one to get me to risk it.
I've also noticed that a LOT of people who claimed to be having these huge problems with the Prime also were working with a rooted device...
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stock as well. Though I would love to root to use the sixaxis app.
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I'm still on stock with the latest updates. When I first got my Prime there wasn't a real need to root, although it meant I couldn't run some apps like Adblock. There weren't many roms around at that time but now there's alot more. Now I've gotten used to running Prime stock and it doesn't present any issues for me and runs smoothly and I've kind of lost interest in custom roms (plus I don't have as much time as before). Lol, I used to change roms on my Nexus One nearly as often as I changed my underwear - you can assume that I changed my underwear often
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IMHO, the only reason to root this is so you can say "I rooted this." There's no reason to root the Prime, the way I see it. Yeah, there's a little bit of bloatware, but far less than was on my Samsung Galaxy S when I bought it, and with the 64 GB of memory it's not really necessary. I do wish that I could move apps to my SD card, so that could be a reason to root, but not a big enough one to get me to risk it.
I've also noticed that a LOT of people who claimed to be having these huge problems with the Prime also were working with a rooted device...
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There's many reasons to root a device. If you want to have super user permissions just like being a administrator on your PC, your gonna need to root it. Apps such as Root Explorer and as mentioned Sixaxis app for syncing your PS3 controller up with your prime, ROMManager, TiBu, SetCPU, and the list goes on. All up to the end user and what you prefer. The first thing I do is root my devices
Oh and most if not all issues people run into is due to a user error.. not because the device is rooted.
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Is there anything I can do to improve the overall experience of the tablet?
I attempted rooting but I'm on .21 and a bit afraid of downgrading. Is it safe?
Are there any tablet-oriented apps? Most of the ones I restored from Titanium Backup are just enlarged, would be neat to know of a list of apps that use the Prime's real estate.
Thanks!
Do a search in this forum for widget and apps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1415
As far as rooting, it is safe. The next asus update will auto unroot you unless you have voodoo installed.
If you are talking about unlocking and flashing roms, less safe than rooting as more could go wrong and you can't reverse an unlock
Best advice I have for you is search and read the forum topics.
Apps
Hi,
you ask for tablet apps; I love my new Reader HD for rss-reading, it is a much better then the original reader app grom google.
Also the Dolphin Browser HD ist great; I use last pass plugin there and have all my pw handed in the browser.
Just go to the play store and use the selection from google for tablets, there you'll find much more tablets apps
ungraph said:
Is there anything I can do to improve the overall experience of the tablet?
I attempted rooting but I'm on .21 and a bit afraid of downgrading. Is it safe?
Are there any tablet-oriented apps? Most of the ones I restored from Titanium Backup are just enlarged, would be neat to know of a list of apps that use the Prime's real estate.
Thanks!
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I can't speak on the downgrading, because I rooted and unlocked my bootloader on .15...then went with custom ROMs from there. But rooting/unlocking is worth it if you ask me, to me that's what Android is all about. The Prime is great out of the box, but a custom ROM with Motleys kernel running @ 1.8 is sick. There's even 2 Cornerstone ROMs for our Primes.
I can recommend Nvidias app called NVision...super slick tablet app. Talks about Gadgets, games on PC,console, and mobile...cool stuff in general.
Any more rooting/unlocking/ROM questions, just ask....I've done it all.
Good luck and have fun with your Prime.
Welcome to the jungle my friend. An easy way to root without downgrading is to unlock and flash a good room from the start. I've had virtuous on motley and aokp on motley. Both are great. There is a tabletized market app that shows compatible apps. Dice player for video and Poweramp for music (plenty of others, just my preference). If you like Polaris, you won't want a non-stock Rom.
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ungraph said:
Is there anything I can do to improve the overall experience of the tablet?
I attempted rooting but I'm on .21 and a bit afraid of downgrading. Is it safe?
Are there any tablet-oriented apps? Most of the ones I restored from Titanium Backup are just enlarged, would be neat to know of a list of apps that use the Prime's real estate.
Thanks!
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Good luck with the new tablet...I would probably log a few days before ulocking just to make sure you don't notice any issues that need warranty attention. I had to send mine back to TX on two occations. Once it was stable, I unlocked and it's been fine since.
Thanks for the replies. I ended up downgrading to. 15, rooted and upgraded to. 21 and restored the root. I'm tempted to unlock but I got a bunch of reading to do prior. Will check out dome of the apps mentioned.
When we finally get root (through either an unlocked bootloader or S-OFF), what are your specific plans on using it for?
I plan to:
Flash custom recovery
Obtain or create a stock de-odexed ROM (if there's an update and no one has put one out yet).
Remove all the bloat.
Insert my own specific apps and data to it (so I don't have to go around re-installing or updating everything every time I re-flash it)
Implement an OC kernel and find out if 1.5 GHz is the real clock speed of this processor and it was just underclocked, which has been discussed but not proven that I have seen. I know the latest OC kernel is only really getting 1.458 GHz, but I can dream.
Three-Dot Remap!
Get rid of Wi-Fi nag!
Flash ROM!
Utilize root-only apps I have.
Finally be content.
Get bored and flash Viper ROM
Wonder why I didn't use this in the first place
Figure out how to revert the theme back to stock HTC Sense but keep the tweaks.
Live blissfully ever after.
Quickly get bored.
Wonder when Jellybean will come out for our phone, or when an awesome dev will make it.
Wait impatiently.
Watch as Key Lime Pie arrives and we still haven't gotten Jellybean.
Freak out!
Yeah, the first 10 will happen for sure, likely the next 4 will happen after a few weeks, and inevitably, when my flashing addiction gets too great, the next three items will follow. Hopefully we'll have several Jellybean ROM options before Key Lime Pie comes out, though.
Personally, I'll be happy just getting root, either through the bootloader unlock or S-OFF, as long as I can get the ROM customized the way I want it.
I really don't think that's an unreasonable request, Verizon. Let us unlock!
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When we finally get root (through either an unlocked bootloader or S-OFF), what are your specific plans on using it for?
I plan to:
Flash custom recovery
Obtain or create a stock de-odexed ROM (if there's an update and no one has put one out yet).
Remove all the bloat.
Insert my own specific apps and data to it (so I don't have to go around re-installing or updating everything every time I re-flash it)
Implement an OC kernel and find out if 1.5 GHz is the real clock speed of this processor and it was just underclocked, which has been discussed but not proven that I have seen. I know the latest OC kernel is only really getting 1.458 GHz, but I can dream.
Three-Dot Remap!
Get rid of Wi-Fi nag!
Flash ROM!
Utilize root-only apps I have.
Finally be content.
Get bored and flash Viper ROM
Wonder why I didn't use this in the first place
Figure out how to revert the theme back to stock HTC Sense but keep the tweaks.
Live blissfully ever after.
Quickly get bored.
Wonder when Jellybean will come out for our phone, or when an awesome dev will make it.
Wait impatiently.
Watch as Key Lime Pie arrives and we still haven't gotten Jellybean.
Freak out!
Yeah, the first 10 will happen for sure, likely the next 4 will happen after a few weeks, and inevitably, when my flashing addiction gets too great, the next three items will follow. Hopefully we'll have several Jellybean ROM options before Key Lime Pie comes out, though.
Personally, I'll be happy just getting root, either through the bootloader unlock or S-OFF, as long as I can get the ROM customized the way I want it.
I really don't think that's an unreasonable request, Verizon. Let us unlock!
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that about covers it.
You can knock out the root/recovery process with my tool here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1758682
I guess I'm one of the lucky ones that got an unlock code, flashed recover and rooted before everything got locked up. My phone hasn't had any updates pushed to it, my root still works and I'm a happy camper!
Initially the reason I rooted was just to get wireless-tether to work, as I relied on it heavily with my last few phones. I don't know how I managed to get the Inc 4G on an upgrade without loosing my unlimited data plan, as I understand most folks were forced onto a tiered plan due to the phone being released after the grandfather date for the unlimited plans. Stroke of luck #2!
At the moment, root has bought me wireless-tether, allowed me to actually yank some bloat instead of just disabling it and given me more flexibility when playing around with alternate launchers. What I'm really waiting for is the forthcoming ROMs so I can get a de-Sensed OS on this bad boy. I can only imagine how wicked fast it's gonna be without Sense and all the other crap. Plus ICS is damn sexy looking all on its own!
Wireless tether, button remap, custom recovery, root, and overclock
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I'm kinda confused Will your aio push root or will that have to wait for bootloader unlock?
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Senseless rom. A JB rom if one gets released. That's about it.
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[/COLOR]I'm kinda confused Will your aio push root or will that have to wait for bootloader unlock?
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We have to wait for bootloader unlock before it will work again.
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coffeedragon said:
I guess I'm one of the lucky ones that got an unlock code, flashed recover and rooted before everything got locked up. My phone hasn't had any updates pushed to it, my root still works and I'm a happy camper!
Initially the reason I rooted was just to get wireless-tether to work, as I relied on it heavily with my last few phones. I don't know how I managed to get the Inc 4G on an upgrade without loosing my unlimited data plan, as I understand most folks were forced onto a tiered plan due to the phone being released after the grandfather date for the unlimited plans. Stroke of luck #2!
At the moment, root has bought me wireless-tether, allowed me to actually yank some bloat instead of just disabling it and given me more flexibility when playing around with alternate launchers. What I'm really waiting for is the forthcoming ROMs so I can get a de-Sensed OS on this bad boy. I can only imagine how wicked fast it's gonna be without Sense and all the other crap. Plus ICS is damn sexy looking all on its own!
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You know that hasoon2000 posted a senseless ROM already right?
IceDragon59 said:
When we finally get root (through either an unlocked bootloader or S-OFF), what are your specific plans on using it for?
I plan to:
Flash custom recovery
Obtain or create a stock de-odexed ROM (if there's an update and no one has put one out yet).
Remove all the bloat.
Insert my own specific apps and data to it (so I don't have to go around re-installing or updating everything every time I re-flash it)
Implement an OC kernel and find out if 1.5 GHz is the real clock speed of this processor and it was just underclocked, which has been discussed but not proven that I have seen. I know the latest OC kernel is only really getting 1.458 GHz, but I can dream.
Three-Dot Remap!
Get rid of Wi-Fi nag!
Flash ROM!
Utilize root-only apps I have.
..snip..
I really don't think that's an unreasonable request, Verizon. Let us unlock!
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I'll do a full Nandroid backup immediately after #1. Then:
Remove bloat,
install wireless tether
install 3-button remap,
install TiB and backup all installed apps+data.
put all of my custom ringtones into the system area so they stay put
After thoroughly enjoying that for a few days (or minutes), then make a 2nd Nandroid backup and flash the Viper ROM, assuming it's out of Beta test.
junkmail9 said:
I'll do a full Nandroid backup immediately after #1. Then:
Remove bloat,
install wireless tether
install 3-button remap,
install TiB and backup all installed apps+data.
put all of my custom ringtones into the system area so they stay put
After thoroughly enjoying that for a few days (or minutes), then make a 2nd Nandroid backup and flash the Viper ROM, assuming it's out of Beta test.
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Sounds like a plan
junkmail9 said:
I'll do a full Nandroid backup immediately after #1. Then:
Remove bloat,
install wireless tether
install 3-button remap,
install TiB and backup all installed apps+data.
put all of my custom ringtones into the system area so they stay put
After thoroughly enjoying that for a few days (or minutes), then make a 2nd Nandroid backup and flash the Viper ROM, assuming it's out of Beta test.
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The 5 month wait for s-off/root was so very worth it:
Remove bloat, - DONE
install wireless tether - DONE
install 3-button remap, - pending
install TiB and backup all installed apps+data. - DONE
put all of my custom ringtones into the system area so they stay put - DONE
Custom tag on hboot, WiFi Nag gone...
Definitely still in the enjoying part.
junkmail9 said:
the 5 month wait for s-off/root was so very worth it:
remove bloat, - done
install wireless tether - done
install 3-button remap, - pending
install tib and backup all installed apps+data. - done
put all of my custom ringtones into the system area so they stay put - done
custom tag on hboot, wifi nag gone...
Definitely still in the enjoying part. :d
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10-4 dolly knockers
junkmail9 said:
The 5 month wait for s-off/root was so very worth it:
Remove bloat, - DONE
install wireless tether - DONE
install 3-button remap, - pending
install TiB and backup all installed apps+data. - DONE
put all of my custom ringtones into the system area so they stay put - DONE
Custom tag on hboot, WiFi Nag gone...
Definitely still in the enjoying part.
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What are you using to remove Wi-Fi nag on roms besides viper that already have it removed?
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MJL99 said:
What are you using to remove Wi-Fi nag on roms besides viper that already have it removed?
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I modified the framework-htc-res.apk by removing the 4 pngs mentioned here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30679535&postcount=40
I wasn't entirely sure which version the files were downloadable in that post, so I just modified my own. It was really a joy: Actually being able to get to the files using Root Explorer, pulling them off of the phone to my PC, modifying the framework files, changing the filesystem to R/W, and then putting them back. I had nearly forgotten that simple pleasure.
Not seeing that stupid icon in the notification area has been so uplifting today. I swear I've turned on the display several times today just to not see it there.
The question is now what we going to do with s-off after this epically long stint without root and s-off. It's like the doors of willa wonkas factory being open for the first time, yes.
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I'd like to overclock once we have a kernel that can do so. I'd like to undervolt as well to squeeze a little extra juice out of this baby
I know we are supposed to have s-off to use the chainfire 3D app but does anyone know if this actually do anything that's a +1
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I know we are supposed to have s-off to use the chainfire 3D app but does anyone know if this actually do anything that's a +1
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You can use either Chainfire's SuperSU or ChainsDD's Superuser. Either should work fine. Unless ChainsDD has updated his Elite, the advantage to SuperSU is the checkbox to disable and hide Superuser. I cannot say if that option is a Pro only option because I have the paid versions for both. (note: you can have only one of them installed at a time)
Then again Superuser Elite has OVER 9000!!!
No the chainfire 3D app that deals with graphic
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It might, but note that the description says it isn't compatible with ICS.
Description said:
!! For Froyo and Gingerbread ONLY. NOT COMPATIBLE with Honeycomb/Ice Cream Sandwich/Jelly Bean !!
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It might, but note that the description says it isn't compatible with ICS.
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I tried already ended up on a soft brick
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How is the user experience on a rooted Galaxy Note II? I want to root it ASAP but i do not want to loose out on how smooth a stock Note 2 runs.
dionysos803 said:
How is the user experience on a rooted Galaxy Note II? I want to root it ASAP but i do not want to loose out on how smooth a stock Note 2 runs.
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is as smooth because we are using the same stock rom so it won't be different on that regard
for root if you don't have a reason to use it don't even bother in my case the phone without root will be like a car without keys because 50% of my apps need root
Speedy Gonzalez said:
is as smooth because we are using the same stock rom so it won't be different on that regard
for root if you don't have a reason to use it don't even bother in my case the phone without root will be like a car without keys because 50% of my apps need root
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This isn't true IMO. Root to get rid of bloatware at the very least.
kimdoocheol said:
This isn't true IMO. Root to get rid of bloatware at the very least.
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I would count that as "a reason to use it".
Well if you really want reasons we can go on and on but the OP may not be familiar with root that's why I said that because things can go wrong easy having root access
thanks for info
Speedy Gonzalez said:
Well if you really want reasons we can go on and on but the OP may not be familiar with root that's why I said that because things can go wrong easy having root access
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I always root my phones, but its always a little glitchy (in perspective a like-stock phone still has issues too). I see so much potential in a rooted GSN2, with being able to add more apps to the split screen app options. In this case, i don't want to forego a super smooth user experience for more options but a glitchy experience...That where my concern comes in.
dionysos803 said:
I always root my phones, but its always a little glitchy (in perspective a like-stock phone still has issues too). I see so much potential in a rooted GSN2, with being able to add more apps to the split screen app options. In this case, i don't want to forego a super smooth user experience for more options but a glitchy experience...That where my concern comes in.
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What? It's the same as stock... but with the ability to remove bloat and add modifications. Also, you can add apps to multiwindow without root it just takes a lot more work.
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the one thing stopping me is worrying about an update forcing it's way through and bricking the device.
Hitman3984 said:
the one thing stopping me is worrying about an update forcing it's way through and bricking the device.
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All updates are optional.
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Its TwiX said:
All updates are optional.
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true but, and correct me if i'm wrong, if you don't see that update in time to defer it, it will attempt to DL/install it on it's own.
My understanding is you can still update, because it's stock. Not sure if you would lose SU though.
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You can take a ota while rooted but you'll lose root. . If you deleted boat or modded certain things you could brick if you don't revert them back to stock... heres what my theory if you don't have specific reasons to root then you probably don't need to if you're going to be aware you can mess up your device if you don't follow instructions and have a basic understanding of what you're doing .... root alone doesn't give you any additional performance
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Hitman3984 said:
true but, and correct me if i'm wrong, if you don't see that update in time to defer it, it will attempt to DL/install it on it's own.
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I've seen ota's automatically download and attempt install but the last few I've gotten had to be installed by the user
I'm sure we could find a ota block by then anyway
also you can trick the phone into thinking it took the update to stop getting the reminder by editing the build.prop
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]I've rooted my note 2 and so far it s almost flawless. ..The only issue I've come across Is saving videos to the sd card. Saving pics or videos to the phone works jusrlt fine. Saving pics to the sd card works just fine...its just when I take a video that is suppose to be saved to the sd card. Any suggestions?
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Dumb Question
OK so from my understanding the device has a chance to brick if you root and uninstall the bloat and get an OTA update and allow it to go through.
K so I want root to delete the trash that comes pre installed (bloat as we all call it) However, instead of a custom ROM I wanna Stay With stock, at least until we get a ROM (When we find a way through the bootloader) that can use the SPen and stays stable and updated. untilll that day comes or sammy stops development I want the Stock Setup and there updates just debloated. Here's my dumb question... Without it having an unlocked bootloader is there any way to flash back to stock incase it locks up and bricks, or is it just better to wait for the BLunlock to be safer. love the phone as is I just hate that Verizon puts all there garbage on... it would be one thing if it were optional or able to be deleted, but having to hack there trash out is not cool.
Droidneedzsence said:
OK so from my understanding the device has a chance to brick if you root and uninstall the bloat and get an OTA update and allow it to go through.
K so I want root to delete the trash that comes pre installed (bloat as we all call it) However, instead of a custom ROM I wanna Stay With stock, at least until we get a ROM (When we find a way through the bootloader) that can use the SPen and stays stable and updated. untilll that day comes or sammy stops development I want the Stock Setup and there updates just debloated. Here's my dumb question... Without it having an unlocked bootloader is there any way to flash back to stock incase it locks up and bricks, or is it just better to wait for the BLunlock to be safer. love the phone as is I just hate that Verizon puts all there garbage on... it would be one thing if it were optional or able to be deleted, but having to hack there trash out is not cool.
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If it soft bricks/gets stuck in bootloop and you can get into odin download mode you can almost always flash back to stock to fix the issue I believe.
Absolutely no issues, I can now get around to backing up the bloatware with TI Backup and then uninstall that crap or delete it either way its going, going, gone. Root is the way.
kimdoocheol said:
This isn't true IMO. Root to get rid of bloatware at the very least.
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It's not a big deal because you can disable it without root anyways. Maybe it takes up a MB or two of memory but that's not a big deal.
dionysos803 said:
]I've rooted my note 2 and so far it s almost flawless. ..The only issue I've come across Is saving videos to the sd card. Saving pics or videos to the phone works jusrlt fine. Saving pics to the sd card works just fine...its just when I take a video that is suppose to be saved to the sd card. Any suggestions?
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Did it work before rooting? Rooting by itself shouldn't cause an issue like that. My guess is the card isn't fast enough for the 1080p video data it's recording.
To the OP, something you might find useful in root is that Adblock Plus works only with wifi without rooting. Even if ads don't bother you, they use your data and I assume it's capped for you, like it is for most people.
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It's not a big deal because you can disable it without root anyways. Maybe it takes up a MB or two of memory but that's not a big deal.
Did it work before rooting? Rooting by itself shouldn't cause an issue like that. My guess is the card isn't fast enough for the 1080p video data it's recording.
To the OP, something you might find useful in root is that Adblock Plus works only with wifi without rooting. Even if ads don't bother you, they use your data and I assume it's capped for you, like it is for most people.
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Yes this feature was working prior to rooting my phone that's why this is a concern of mine
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Theres an app you can feeeze and not have to worry about update. Something 101 I believe.
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Excuse me SDM 1.0 ... someone wanna confirm this? I think droidstyle said it in another thread.
Hi,
I've had android devices for years and always kept them locked and stocked.
I've not got an Nexus 10 and was wondering is it actually worth rooting the thing and loading a custom rom?
Will I actually gain anything except be able to change where the home button is?
All thoughts welcome!
THanks in Advance.
If nothing else I would root it. That gives you the option of using programs like Titanium Backup to backup apps and install a custom recovery and have the ability to back up your whole device.
As far as custom ROMS go that's a personal choice. Right now there are not allot out due to the newness of the device, but I'm sure that will change very quickly as Devs stat getting it.
I would root to gain access to titanium back up and ad blockers but beside that there aren't that many great custom roms out there. Stock doesn't have bloatware or any common pitfalls of stock.
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If you are tech savvy, I would highly suggest all 3. You can improve things like battery life by undervolting the CPU and GPU, changing to more conservative governors, and having applications automatically shut off your wifi when your tablet turns off (can't remember if you can do that one without root).
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Yeah, i agree with above opinion. You need to learn things before rooting your tablet. You can check out many rooting videos on YouTube channel to learn about that more easily. Besides, many Google Play apps are free to play.
Check out qbking77 videos on youtube and you will get a how to on the rooting process
Ad blocking is one of the top ten reasons to own any Android device. Root is a vital part of the XDA experience.
It is seriously addictive playing around with different kernels and roms and root apps after you make that first plunge and learn how to do it just be prepared for a little frustration at first. Its very hard to find guides that don't assume you already know the terminology and general techniques! But after that first time, its easy
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It is seriously addictive playing around with different kernels and roms and root apps after you make that first plunge and learn how to do it just be prepared for a little frustration at first. Its very hard to find guides that don't assume you already know the terminology and general techniques! But after that first time, its easy
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So true, its fun and very addictive flashing different stuff on your device. You can also apply themes after rooting
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I was on the fence until i realized the advantages in battery life. I went ahead and did it and havent looked back yet. :good:
You get usb otg support with a rooted device which is crucial for the 16 gb version.
At the same time you dont lose anything when rooting. Especially the nexus 10 is intended to be rooted painlessly and you can revert the whole process too if need be
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You get usb otg support with a rooted device which is crucial for the 16 gb version.
At the same time you dont lose anything when rooting. Especially the nexus 10 is intended to be rooted painlessly and you can revert the whole process too if need be
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There is an app so you can use OTG without having root, called nexus media importer. Though you have to buy it.
Yes it is, ParanoidAndroid is well worth it. Plus titanium backup and all that good stuff.
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EvoYas said:
Yes it is, ParanoidAndroid is well worth it. Plus titanium backup and all that good stuff.
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How so exactly? I'm probably wrong, but I only figured PA to only really be useful either if you want to switch between tablet or phone UI on certain apps, and Tablet UI.
Hmm....
Interesting, thanks for the info.
I've got Nexus Media Importer and that's a godsend as I've got the 16gb.
The problem I have now is that I've been using my N10 since November and have just got it the way I like it.
Is there a way to back it up before it gets wiped when I unlock the bootloader?
Also, If I root will I be able to get OTA updates; I want to stick with stock for now.
Thanks in advance
I rooted mine to isse adblock and titanim backup, I will not be flashing another ROM in a good while, I want OTA and the tablet runs really well on stock
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Pharmbob said:
Hmm....
Interesting, thanks for the info.
I've got Nexus Media Importer and that's a godsend as I've got the 16gb.
The problem I have now is that I've been using my N10 since November and have just got it the way I like it.
Is there a way to back it up before it gets wiped when I unlock the bootloader?
Also, If I root will I be able to get OTA updates; I want to stick with stock for now.
Thanks in advance
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There is a way to backup most of the stuff you have on your tablet. It won't be a 1:1 copy tho. You will not get OTA updates but you can alwyas easily flash to stock and get them. In your case i wouldnt recommend rooting the tablet. If you are curious though about the possibilities you might unlock you should at least try it
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There is a way to backup most of the stuff you have on your tablet. It won't be a 1:1 copy tho. You will not get OTA updates but you can alwyas easily flash to stock and get them. In your case i wouldnt recommend rooting the tablet. If you are curious though about the possibilities you might unlock you should at least try it
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Well, that's me rooted! I used the Qbking77 method and it was painless.
Now, what is the first thing (after back up) should I do?
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How so exactly? I'm probably wrong, but I only figured PA to only really be useful either if you want to switch between tablet or phone UI on certain apps, and Tablet UI.
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Not the only thing you could do with PA - I have this flashed and LOVE it! this might be more of a personal thing but the ability to change your navbar color (battery, time, soft keys) per app is amazing! Again to each their own but I like this ROM on this tablet - I use the CM10 Nightlies on my phone as it suits it better.
To answer the OP - read as much as you can before you decide to Root and Flash - I believe all three is a must but I like to customize things.
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Well, that's me rooted! I used the Qbking77 method and it was painless.
Now, what is the first thing (after back up) should I do?
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Well now that you have root and a custom recovery you should try all the candy in this forum
Go to the nexus 10 rom section and try some roms. There are roms that change a whole lot like ParanoidAndroid and there are roms with more subtle changes (like mine).
Keep in mind that flashing a new rom will wipe anything on your tablet but its ok because you can make nandroid (complete) backups of your present state using the recovery.
Also i recommend you to try apps like GMD gesture control. It enables you to define custom gestures for nearly everything. (Comparable tp those on the ipad but more customizable)