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OK folks, I've loaded up the DCD Rom found here (version 3.3.4) and I now have a working GPS.
I noticed something, however, and that's that the GPS drains the battery fast. Reading some of the other forums, I've heard that Assisted GPS (one that uses the towers rather than the hardware in the phone) uses less battery power, but on the downside, is not as accurate.
Since I don't always need an accurate position, I was wondering if it's possible to switch between the two GPS versions.
Then it occurred to me - how does one know if I really even AM using the hardware GPS.
So.....
Here's some questions for some of you who know better than others....
1. How can we even tell if we are using the hardware GPS vs. the aGPS?
2. Is it possible to switch between the 2 without having to re-flash, or get into QPST?
I would think that this would be very desirable to switch between the 2.
.....and here's what I have....
Verizon XV6800
dcd Rom 3.3.4
Radio version 3.42.02
Thanks!
Gps does about no drain on the battery. Programs like garmin that run constantly using the gps drain the battery. Agps is great for fast accurate fixes. Standalone gps is great for accurate but slower fixes.
I would use agps if you have a data plan. The speed is the only difference. Just so you know agps pings the tower for your location and tells the phone which satellite to find first which is what makes it faster.
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seems to me I already know the Ans to this one, but I'll ask anyway.
I have a data block, that means no GPS for me with the 6800 Correct?
or is there a program I can load?
slosho said:
seems to me I already know the Ans tothis one, but I'll ask anyway.
I have a data block, that means no GPS for me with the 6800 Correct?
or is there a program I can load?
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No, I think you should still be able to use "hardware only" mode.
yes you can use standalone gps. I do.
drewcam888 thanks for the help... but one last Question. is there a program needed that you would suggest?
*Edit* I had searched GPS and didn't find much for some reason, but now I do. I'll do my research sorry to ask, but if you have a suggestion I'll gladly take it.
I suggest quickgps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1862269&postcount=2
I have to say this
when i had build 3.0.xxx my gps worked very well, stable signal during many hours of navigation (i use sygic)
then, with build 4.0.xxx, is a very disaster
the phone loose the signal few times in 15 minutes, so so bad
and withouth reason
the signal is very strong, 6-7 satellites with nice reception, but in a while no more signal, then it fix again after 5 seconds
this is no possible, an hardware issue will be always present i think
so what can be? have you experience this with firmware 4.0.xxx ?
GPS lock performance is very dependant on you clearing cache and user data... then updating. There is nothing wrong with the new 2.3.4 or 2.3.3 firmware regarding GPS - it is very good indeed.
Have used GPS in the city and also in the country and have no issues with it on 2.3.4 on my neo, maybe do a reflash or something, clean install and see if the issues are still there with the gps? good luck man.
Has anyone else experience very slow GPS fixes if "Device only" mode is enable (for example because you don't want your data leaked to Google by enabling "High accuracy")? I thought this phone was supposed to support GLONASS, in addition to GPS.
I've always used GPS alone on my old Nexus One, and today I ran a test, with both devices freshly rebooted and in the same location. The N1 took 28 seconds to get a fix. The Xperia Z2 took 2 minutes and 16 seconds. This is with the latest firmware, .402. (With the previous one, FW:17.1.A.2.55, GPS worked a little faster, but still took about a minute or so, in plain outdoors with no trees or tall buildings around).
I'm having the same problem too using Strava. Can't get a fix at all
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dandv said:
Has anyone else experience very slow GPS fixes if "Device only" mode is enable (for example because you don't want your data leaked to Google by enabling "High accuracy")? I thought this phone was supposed to support GLONASS, in addition to GPS.
I've always used GPS alone on my old Nexus One, and today I ran a test, with both devices freshly rebooted and in the same location. The N1 took 28 seconds to get a fix. The Xperia Z2 took 2 minutes and 16 seconds. This is with the latest firmware, .402. (With the previous one, FW:17.1.A.2.55, GPS worked a little faster, but still took about a minute or so, in plain outdoors with no trees or tall buildings around).
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Based on my experience this is due to gps configuration file: fix that and signal get fixed much more fast and position gets more accurate... Before editing that file you need root and you should know what you are doing, because messing up with its content can bring longer time to fix and less accurate position. A better explanation is long and technical, so I kindly invite you to search more on this topic, if you're interested in
I love my G2 (d802) but it became apparent after I purchased it that the GPS is not up to par. As I use navigation software a lot this was very important to me.
I believe there are 2 issues
1. Hardware - The sensitivity of the antenna appears poor. There is not much you can do about this although I have seen one fix on YouTube.
2. It has a problem with the injection of AGPS data. (As a rule of thumb if it is taking longer than 30 seconds to get a fix under clear sky then AGPS data is not being utilised)
On my device I have managed to get the GPS working adequately with a couple of fixes.
The first is to use Tytung's AGPS injector widget. I have it set to inject AGPS data every six hours. This is probably overkill and once a day should be sufficient if you are worried about data use. (Tytung was the dev who got the gps libs working properly on the HD2)
It can be found here on Playstore.
The second was to use Derek Gordon's AGPS patch (Info and links to XDA threads here). To make things even easier he has now released an app called TopNTP. Don't be afraid to experiment with the various configurations until you get one that works well for you. I have used his patch on a number of devices in the past and have never had issues with it. Just make sure that you make a backup on first use of the app.
To test your GPS's functioning I recommend GPS Test. In fact if you do not want to use Tytung's app to automatically inject AGPS data you can do it manually with this app.
Thank you very much.
Testing on LS980 and report soon.
GPS is the biggest flaw on this device (and maybe also phone signal).
Will try these steps and see how it goes.
I get a GPS fix within 30 seconds, but I keep losing the fix while driving in the car. Very annoying.
In my D806 KK the gps work PERFECT.
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I get a GPS fix within 30 seconds, but I keep losing the fix while driving in the car. Very annoying.
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Yes this is pretty much the issue I would have. This fix seems to have vastly improved that.
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In my D806 KK the gps work PERFECT.
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My guess is that the fundamental issue is with the antennas. The hardware fix I have seen involved readjusting these.
If it's a quality control issue in production then some people will get units that work perfectly, some not at all and many in between.
This fix will improve things for those in between by getting the most out of what they've got.
For me that means it now works adequately but not perfectly.
For example I still have a very slow fix indoors. Prior to using the fixes I had none.
If I compare it with other devices I have access to. (2 Samsungs , a levovo and a couple of old cheap Chinese GPS units they all still beat it heads down unfortunately.
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Tried this fixes and I don't see any change really.
Inside buildings is where I have a problem. Outside no problems finding my location quickly, but not perfectly accurate.
Sensamic said:
Tried this fixes and I don't see any change really.
Inside buildings is where I have a problem. Outside no problems finding my location quickly, but not perfectly accurate.
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You should not be concerned trying to get a GPS lock inside a building.. What are you trying to do? Map to the other side of the mall?
Sfkn2 said:
You should not be concerned trying to get a GPS lock inside a building.. What are you trying to do? Map to the other side of the mall?
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I know it's not really essential, but my Nexus 7 2013 and SGS3 can find my location inside my house and the G2 can't.
Sensamic said:
I know it's not really essential, but my Nexus 7 2013 and SGS3 can find my location inside my house and the G2 can't.
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Do you have the location settings set to "High Accuracy"?
Has anyone checked if on 20F the GPS works better?
For anyone who is interested in the hardware fix I mentioned in the opening post you can find it here
http://youtu.be/UdDJqFxpRy8
I've not been brave enough to try it so have no idea if it's effective or not.
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LS980 with the fix under the back cover.
Location - Israel.
G2 GPS Test: http://youtu.be/4awGV2kr_m8
Faster gps for il server and gps status for testing.
Made it 2 mins ago.
Enjoy.
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Has anyone checked if on 20F the GPS works better?
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Unfortunately reported that its the same.
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corrsea said:
I love my G2 (d802) but it became apparent after I purchased it that the GPS is not up to par. As I use navigation software a lot this was very important to me.
I believe there are 2 issues
1. Hardware - The sensitivity of the antenna appears poor. There is not much you can do about this although I have seen one fix on YouTube.
2. It has a problem with the injection of AGPS data. (As a rule of thumb if it is taking longer than 30 seconds to get a fix under clear sky then AGPS data is not being utilised)
On my device I have managed to get the GPS working adequately with a couple of fixes.
The first is to use Tytung's AGPS injector widget. I have it set to inject AGPS data every six hours. This is probably overkill and once a day should be sufficient if you are worried about data use. (Tytung was the dev who got the gps libs working properly on the HD2)
It can be found here on Playstore.
The second was to use Derek Gordon's AGPS patch (Info and links to XDA threads here). To make things even easier he has now released an app called TopNTP. Don't be afraid to experiment with the various configurations until you get one that works well for you. I have used his patch on a number of devices in the past and have never had issues with it. Just make sure that you make a backup on first use of the app.
To test your GPS's functioning I recommend GPS Test. In fact if you do not want to use Tytung's app to automatically inject AGPS data you can do it manually with this app.
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I just did a simple fix.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54525017
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thanks for the suggestions i will try them out and report back
Sensamic said:
Has anyone checked if on 20F the GPS works better?
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Bored of problems and fixes, I started from zero, flashing a 20F kdz and then Cloudyflex 2.5. Huge improve in adquisition (less than 15 seconds in cold start, and instantly on hot) without any fix or trick. Maybe a little less precision.
Try it.
I have a v10 and noticed that the antenna to the gps is on the back cover. There are metal prongs that connect to the back cover when you place the cover on. Try to lift the connectors so that the connections occur better. That fixed my gps after all the settings and software stuff were failing to fix my gps.
Hello everybody from Xda,
I'm looking for a new phone for my mother and I am really interested to know what the GPS is like. If the gps is any good I will join the Xiaomi army.
Why am I so interested in this?
Well my mother her navigation system just died and, I would like to install the tom tom app on her phone, I've got it currently on my oneplus one without internet and it's great. My mom will also have no data plan with her phone so google maps or anything isnt an option for her
So my question to you guys is, does anybody of you have had any ecperience with the gps.
Thanks in advance XDA,
Deameong
I am curious about the same thing. I use GPS without any Internet or even phone signal (normally on airplane mode to save battery). And I would like to know how reliable it is.
Attached a Screenshot, few Seconds (about 30) after switching GPS on. GPS receptions is really good, from my point of view.
cataplines said:
I am curious about the same thing. I use GPS without any Internet or even phone signal (normally on airplane mode to save battery). And I would like to know how reliable it is.
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Just recieved it now,
Using google map and waze, locking on me very fast,
Looks good and stable with great reception of the GPS...
Can you say how much time in seconds need to lock satellites?
Thank You
Thanks alot for the advice guys,
Going to order it tonight!
I've just come back from holiday and I used GPS extensively with the offline Co-pilot app. It worked almost flawlessly both in the car and when cycling. I can't begin to tell you how much better it is than older MTK eqiluipped phones. Lock times varied from four seconds to nearly a minute. One thing I noticed is that it was much faster to lock in Co-pilot when I was connected to the internet. Accuracy was great, though I never went into a big city with lots of high rise buildings.
GPS, Wifi and network signal 2-3 times better than on my Note 4.
GPS is sick, in my room after 2-3 sec.
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Hello,
Runkeeper with someone tried, I hesitate to buy the premium just because of that?
(avec Runkeeper quelqu'un a essayé, j'hésite à acheter le Prime juste à cause de ça?)
I really want to know about the gps as well. I use the gps so much. Now I have the lg g3, I would like to know if this one is around the same as g3.
Thanks
D.
Ill give uadvice gps locking depends onyour connection and area,i use gps in city with locking time vary from 10 -80 sec or more the signal was good but for gps signal its not good so it some time locks slower, this is qqualcomm 400 chipset ,newer version of mediatek might performs better and i have ever try gps with airplane mode one using gps test on aa mountain area and it lock 30 sec or less,the signal came out by it self with no connection so everything depend on your area and your xhipset ,newer chipset performs excellent on gps
I'd like to know more about how the GPS in this phone is faring for you because for me it's an endless horror story. Neither Google Maps nor Endomondo give even acceptable locations and tracking.
And the compass is so bad I wanna puke.
The phone is great in almost every other aspect, but GPS is fairly important for me and I'm starting to regret purchasing this phone. May it be fixed with better ROMs or is it a hardware fault?
Or3 said:
I'd like to know more about how the GPS in this phone is faring for you because for me it's an endless horror story. Neither Google Maps nor Endomondo give even acceptable locations and tracking.
And the compass is so bad I wanna puke.
The phone is great in almost every other aspect, but GPS is fairly important for me and I'm starting to regret purchasing this phone. May it be fixed with better ROMs or is it a hardware fault?
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I used it yesterday for half an hour in inner city traffic. The phone found the GPS signal in a few seconds with data connection, without it takes a minute or two. Navigation itself was worrisome. Went under a bridge and signal was lost for about 2 minutes. Then Google maps always thought I was going inside buildings or streets next to my actual route. Really weird.
Inside my room 2 - 3 seconds lock, the best gps on any of my past smartphones.
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Inside my room 2 - 3 seconds lock, the best gps on any of my past smartphones.
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And what is that information good for since the moment you open Google Maps, Runtastic or something along those lines it doesn't have any accuracy and keeps jumping the whole time?
I'm sick of people sharing screenshots of GPS Test or GPS Status like they're proof of anything when what's really important is real life apps behavior.
This device GPS should be good..
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And what is that information good for since the moment you open Google Maps, Runtastic or something along those lines it doesn't have any accuracy and keeps jumping the whole time?
I'm sick of people sharing screenshots of GPS Test or GPS Status like they're proof of anything when what's really important is real life apps behavior.
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I don't know what you're on about, but GPS Test uses the same API and sensor as any other app. I'm getting the same 5-7 second fix indoors from GPS Test and HERE Maps. Both don't jump around and show my correct position.
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And what is that information good for since the moment you open Google Maps, Runtastic or something along those lines it doesn't have any accuracy and keeps jumping the whole time?
I'm sick of people sharing screenshots of GPS Test or GPS Status like they're proof of anything when what's really important is real life apps behavior.
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Well we use diagnostic tools to know accurately if something is wrong or not, nothing wrong with that. With GPS Status we can know how many sat signal we got, how strong, what is the margin of error, etc.
And i don't have any problem in real life apps and GPS status confirmed that fact.
If you want positive info or help don't start with a negative.
Wheaton's Law - DBAD
China ROM GPS problem
But with china stable rom, the map apps is using Baidu, and if your GPS location is not available, the device will report your network location (wifi/3G), which is in simplified chinese to your requesting apps, that sucks, however, I can't deny the hardware GPS here in RN2 is the best I ever used.
I tried GPS in the city. High accuracy, pretty fast lock and it worked just fine, no problems. Accuracy is usually 3-5m, 17 satellites in use on average. I'm not exactly sure what kind of problems you're facing. However, I can tell you this. A friend has Meizu M1 Note, the GPS was at first very good. But somehow at some point after updating, the accuracy's became horrible, 80m+ and it kept losing connection, IF it managed to establish one. It's most likely not faulty HW, but a misconfigured gps config.
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