Is there a command to unlock the bootloader with s-off without having to wipe all of my data and everything?
There is no need to unlock. S-off is all that you need. It can do anything.
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cdexsw said:
There is no need to unlock. S-off is all that you need. It can do anything.
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It actually would not let me flash recovery without having the bootloader unlocked again. It was disappointing and erased my data... grrr
cdexsw said:
There is no need to unlock. S-off is all that you need. It can do anything.
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You need root to get s-off. The only people who had root were people on the shipped rom when the phone came out. Every OTA since has not had root, let alone temp root that the shipped rom had. So you absolutely need HTC Dev unlock to get s-off, and yes if you havent done it yet, it will wipe the phone. Thems the breaks.
quepaso said:
You need root to get s-off. The only people who had root were people on the shipped rom when the phone came out. Every OTA since has not had root, let alone temp root that the shipped rom had. So you absolutely need HTC Dev unlock to get s-off, and yes if you havent done it yet, it will wipe the phone. Thems the breaks.
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Not what I meant. I already had s-off and it relocked. It then would not allow me to install amon ra. I was asking if there was a different fastboot command to just change it to unlock now since we have soff.
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I had to unlock too but reused my token.
fastboot flash unlocktoken Unlock_code. is the command
Edit: My bad this probably isn't what you were looking for.
I didn't have to re-unlock.
I asked about this in the discussion thread but was never answered.
I just fastboot flash recovery .zip
and HBOOT flashed my roms boot.img and I was back with the addition of S-OFF
I've flashed several Roms since, while my HBOOT still says Tampered, Locked, S-OFF.
Finally, since I'm on ICS, I flashed the Juopunutbear modified HBOOT.
Everything seems to be open and working fine without re-unlocking.
Slacker101 said:
Is there a command to unlock the bootloader with s-off without having to wipe all of my data and everything?
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Not sure if you still need this but i just used the rezound AIO to flash amon again right after and worked fine no unlock. Tho I still have my bin file if I need it.
afaik if you did s-off and you're on GB firmware, you need the ENG Hboot to flash recoveries using fastboot commands, otherwise you have to use PH98IMG.zip's... but that's just what i see, i'm not 100%.
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so this is what i have. software is on 2.08.651.3 and i have hboot 1.50
tried doing the dev unlock but keep getting error 173. any ideas
mecksg1 said:
so this is what i have. software is on 2.08.651.3 and i have hboot 1.50
tried doing the dev unlock but keep getting error 173. any ideas
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Update software to 2.17 latest radios and everything.... Then do the unlock thing .... if you get to the unlock code bin part and apply and it says sucess but nothing happens.... Then you will have to snag the 2.17 RUU exe and run it then after that reapply the unlock code bin...
noob ? then. that is sytem update right?
Figured that out lol
Which root method should I use then
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Which root method should I use then
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Ya update software you found it then do the HTC dev method since you are hboot 1.5
If i do the HTC dev unlock, will I still be able to fully unlock someday?
detroit2hi said:
If i do the HTC dev unlock, will I still be able to fully unlock someday?
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I guess you can. You still can relock your phone I don't see why not
I have no problem using hboot 1.5 You can get a app on here or on the market called flash gui works like a champ when it comes to flashin roms and kernels without having to use a computer...
I just couldn't stand the bloatware on the stock phone now it's all gone
So after unlocking and putting Su and can on I can flash roms
Flash gui image is a must have if you are stuck with hboot 1.5
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can u put pur recovery on it. trying now but its not allowing me to. i am unslocked thou
ok so i'm unlocked but not rooted. cant flash cwm, what the hell am i not doing?
mecksg1 said:
ok so i'm unlocked but not rooted. cant flash cwm, what the hell am i not doing?
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Are you opening your cmd prompt to the appropriate folder and is your recovery image there?
At the command prompt, type: fastboot flash recovery recovery.img[2nd recovery = your recovery's name, you could also rename to "recovery"]. Good luck.
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This might help clear some of it up for you;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22054499
(Q) How To Flash A Recovery From Bootloader 1.5
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I'm on 3.14 stock ruu, unlocked bootloader, amonra in the recovery
do I need to flash something like the "3.14 stock deodexxed root"
or can I just finally try to s-off?
thanks <3
Watercycle said:
I'm on 3.14 stock ruu, unlocked bootloader, amonra in the recovery
do I need to flash something like the "3.14 stock deodexxed root"
or can I just finally try to s-off?
thanks <3
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the su binary MUST be present in the system for the S-OFF process to work correctly, so yes, you must root.
Since you have Amon ra installed, just boot into that, go to the developer menu and install the su binary, then do S-OFF
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the su binary MUST be present in the system for the S-OFF process to work correctly, so yes, you must root.
Since you have Amon ra installed, just boot into that, go to the developer menu and install the su binary, then do S-OFF
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unguarded or super user? and thank you i didn't know about that =)
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unguarded or super user? and thank you i didn't know about that =)
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Sueperuser not unguarded
this is the most rediculous process ever! (currently trying to wire trick) I'VE USED 2 DARN TYPES OF WIRE AND A PAPERCLIP AND NONE OF THEM DO ANYTHING
oh god, whew... i was running around the house making a wire out of everything...
but after trying the paperclip for like the 8th time (which took a half hour to find) it seems to have worked
S-off is the most stressful android activity ever >XO
thanks you two <3
You did use the ics jb hboot right? Make sure you can see the sd card? And don't unlock your phone again. You would need to s-on then s-off again for it to say locked. I just woke up and saw your new posts, its been a long day but I see you got help. Welcome to the club, glad it finally worked.
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I used the Hboot that came with 3.14 Ruu, if S-off took the "relocked" away then i'm happy, if it didn't, oh well, but I was unlocked when I started the process =o
As long as you don't unlock it after s-off, it will be locked again ( although it says "juopunutbear" instead of "locked" if you're using their modified boot. Just flash a stock one and it will say locked)
I'm still not to sure why people keep bringing up the Hboot, is it because if you flash S-off's it will break it?
I declined the modified version and everything appears to be working
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I'm still not to sure why people keep bringing up the Hboot, is it because if you flash S-off's it will break it?
I declined the modified version and everything appears to be working
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The patched hboot adds some advanced fast boot commands. However everything will work without the patched hboot. You don't need it its just nice to have
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I'm still not to sure why people keep bringing up the Hboot, is it because if you flash S-off's it will break it?
I declined the modified version and everything appears to be working
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The juoponut bear hboot is an eng hboot that allows for adb commands and other options most people will not need.
The h boot issue is thus......in the event you want your phone returned to stock (s on and locked in downloader), after gaining s off do NOT HTC unlock the phone.
If you don't unlock it and want to return to stock you basically run a ruu, and then write the secure flag back to s on (scotty123 has a thread how to do this). After which point you phone will be on stock Rom, recovery and h boot will say locked and s on. Just like the day you first got the phone.
If you unlock after s off (as an early adopter I did) your bootloader will only say unlocked or relocked. You can run ruus, and write secure flag to s on.....BUT your hboot will say relocked or unlocked. And to a trained eye, someone can tell you tampered with it (running Roma,etc)
In my case, I had to follow scottys thread, s on, and do the s off process all over again. Early on we thought flashing a ruu would change the hboot status from relocked to locked. However we were mistaken.
So, don't unlock after s off.
If you can't run adb commands with your h boot and don't want to flash an eng hboot, use the ph98img.zip method to flash things (ex recovery, hboots, radios).
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ericsignals said:
The juoponut bear hboot is an eng hboot that allows for adb commands and other options most people will not need.
The h boot issue is thus......in the event you want your phone returned to stock (s on and locked in downloader), after gaining s off do NOT HTC unlock the phone.
If you don't unlock it and want to return to stock you basically run a ruu, and then write the secure flag back to s on (scotty123 has a thread how to do this). After which point you phone will be on stock Rom, recovery and h boot will say locked and s on. Just like the day you first got the phone.
If you unlock after s off (as an early adopter I did) your bootloader will only say unlocked or relocked. You can run ruus, and write secure flag to s on.....BUT your hboot will say relocked or unlocked. And to a trained eye, someone can tell you tampered with it (running Roma,etc)
In my case, I had to follow scottys thread, s on, and do the s off process all over again. Early on we thought flashing a ruu would change the hboot status from relocked to locked. However we were mistaken.
So, don't unlock after s off.
If you can't run adb commands with your h boot and don't want to flash an eng hboot, use the ph98img.zip method to flash things (ex recovery, hboots, radios).
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Well everything is right but the first part, the modified hboot allows you to perform fastboot commands that would otherwise require you to unlock the bootloader
Fastboot flash, fastboot boot... Etc.
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superchilpil said:
Well everything is right but the first part, the modified hboot allows you to perform fastboot commands that would otherwise require you to unlock the bootloader
Fastboot flash, fastboot boot... Etc.
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Forgot to add that part when I typed the adb part ....thanks for correcting me.:thumbup:
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oh dear, so without that Hboot command prompt won't be able to fastboot into recovery and whatnot?
Watercycle said:
oh dear, so without that Hboot command prompt won't be able to fastboot into recovery and whatnot?
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Yes, but there are ways around that
I personally just package my own ph98img.zips if I need to flash a kernel or recovery after doing something dumb
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If you want to add the JB Hboot, it is very simple. You can go to their site and just download the most recent hboot. You must know if you are ICS or GB. But go here: http://unlimited.io/hboot-downloads/ and download the right one, either vigor ics or vigor gb. Put that in the folder where you had put the original controlbear program and follow these instructions:
To flash the JuopunutBear hboots
Put the phone in fastboot mode, connected to the pc and enter the following commands
fastboot erase cache
fastboot oem rebootRUU
fastboot flash zip jb_hboot.zip
Thats all there is to it and you can now benefit from the JB Hboot.
I thought you needed to be unlocked with htc dev to gain s-off? Now I'm hearing that I should not unlock my phone before I s-off?
Yes you need to be unlocked. It's part of the prerequisites. Please read then reread the thread in general "s-off with instructions...it's official". Understand how to avoid problems and fix them if they arise. It's very easy but it's like people half ass reading the instructions recently. Don't be that person.
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th3rapist said:
I thought you needed to be unlocked with htc dev to gain s-off? Now I'm hearing that I should not unlock my phone before I s-off?
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You have to unlock befor you s off, afterwards it's redundant to do so. But some people have
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doubleshot, ruby ICS, vigor ICS, holiday ICS, pyramid ICS?
which one? haha
I don't mind don't 1 more small flash that will probably be necessary in the future as long as it doesn't screw my current rom up
I just bought an EVO 3D off craigslist. The phone is unlocked and working with Cricket Wireless and gonna continue using it there and not with Sprint.
When I get into the bootloader. It says *UNLOCKED* 1.5 S=ON.
I was able to get into a CWM recovery.
I think it is rooted but unsure.
Do you have an app called super user or supersu installed?
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Do you have an app called super user or supersu installed?
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I just remembered how to check. It seems I am rooted as I was able to use the SU command in terminal and I have superuser installed.
Will I be able to install roms whats all this about 1.4 downgrade and S=Off?
Jeffmeister said:
I just bought an EVO 3D off craigslist. The phone is unlocked and working with Cricket Wireless and gonna continue using it there and not with Sprint.
When I get into the bootloader. It says *UNLOCKED* 1.5 S=ON.
I was able to get into a CWM recovery.
I think it is rooted but unsure.
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No, you're not rooted. You're unlocked...which is close, but no cigar. You'll have to "relock" your phone if you want to go back to 1.4 hboot with s-off. No biggie...took me half an hour at most. Just make sure you have the files you need at hand plus the live Linux cd/dvd.
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phillip1953 said:
No, you're not rooted. You're unlocked...which is close, but no cigar. You'll have to "relock" your phone if you want to go back to 1.4 hboot with s-off. No bigger...took me half an hour at most. Just make sure you have the files you need at hand plus the lived Linux cd/dvd.
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Incorrect. He is rooted. If he has superuser installed and is able to call the su command successfully in terminal he is rooted.
私のEVO 3Dから送信される。
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Incorrect. He is rooted. If he has superuser installed and is able to call the su command successfully in terminal he is rooted.
私のEVO 3Dから送信される。
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You are correct...but it's a half-assed root.
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Jeffmeister said:
Will I be able to install roms whats all this about 1.4 downgrade and S=Off?
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You are rooted just fine. Never heard of half assed rooted.
The only thing is your S-On so the partition where the radio/firmware are, you won't be able to change unless you go S-Off.
To answer your question, you can still flash many roms. Some ICS roms will not work because they require the new radio and firmware. Any GB rom and many ICS you can flash right now with no problems.
If you flash the newest 4ext Recovery, it will save you from having to manually flash the boot.img file separately after you install the rom. Although flashing the boot.img through the adb fastboot is no big deal.
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You are correct...but it's a half-assed root.
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No such thing as half-assed root. Either you are rooted or not. He just has S-ON meaning he cannot flash a custom PG86IMG.zip from the bootloader. Only PG86IMG.zip that are signed by HTC. Also he is limited to which partitions he can flash to.
Being unlocked is better than being rooted. Think of it as a low-level root. Like being able to tweak your BIOS settings instead of just being the admin user of Windows.
No it sucks. I spent 3 hours in boot loops the other night because of this f**king S-ON bs. My phone will not flash ANY ICS rims and any kernel that has overclocking capabilities puts me right back in the boot loop even using adb. My Evo 4G was rooted via Revolutionary, but this S-ON sucks. I hate it, but I'm not going to brick my phone to downgrade.
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negativzeroe said:
No it sucks. I spent 3 hours in boot loops the other night because of this f**king S-ON bs. My phone will not flash ANY ICS rims and any kernel that has overclocking capabilities puts me right back in the boot loop even using adb. My Evo 4G was rooted via Revolutionary, but this S-ON sucks. I hate it, but I'm not going to brick my phone to downgrade.
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You must be mistaking. S-ON devices are really hard to brick.
If they weren't HTC would be loosing lots of money.
The least trouble you will have to go by downgrasing is having a security warming on your bootloader which can be fixed by flashing the signed PG86IMG.zip file COMPLETELY.
And FYI, Downgrading isnt the only way possible to gain S-OFF.
There's also Juopunutbear S-OFF which can be found HERE.
Which will only require you to return to stock/unlocked with root access. and a simple wire trick.
Good luck in your future bootloops though and have a nice sunny day..
Jeffmeister said:
I just remembered how to check. It seems I am rooted as I was able to use the SU command in terminal and I have superuser installed.
Will I be able to install roms whats all this about 1.4 downgrade and S=Off?
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I don't understand why some are telling JeffMeister that he is not or just half rooted. If your bootloader says "hboot 1.5 S-ON Unlocked" and you have SU installed, that means you are rooted. Sure the boot partition is read-only, but theres easy ways around it.
I've had hboot 1.5 S-ON since I had my phone. I've never felt the need to get S-OFF because there are tools to get around that now. I've been flashing ROMS back and forth using various methods with no issues. For hboot 1.5 & S-ON users, the latest and greatest is 4EXT recovery. It did an excellent job at flashing custom roms & kernels as if I was S-OFF.
I suggest you read the basics about flashing and roms first. If you do use 4EXT Recovery, make sure "4EXT Smart Flash" is enabled(it will prompt you on first use).
Which files in the firmware.zip in the latest OTA are the HBOOT files?
warpurlgis said:
Which files in the firmware.zip in the latest OTA are the HBOOT files?
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Inside the firmware.zip it's the only file thats not an img
"hboot_8x60-lte_2.27.0000_120803_MR2.signedbyaa.nb0"
I flashed the firmware and still remained S-OFF just needed to dev-unlock again.... Either way just remove that file and you can flash without risking S-OFF /unlock
also becareful with the boot.img (kernel) unless you are running the stock OTA
Tachi91 said:
Inside the firmware.zip it's the only file thats not an img
"hboot_8x60-lte_2.27.0000_120803_MR2.signedbyaa.nb0"
I flashed the firmware and still remained S-OFF just needed to dev-unlock again.... Either way just remove that file and you can flash without risking S-OFF /unlock
also becareful with the boot.img (kernel) unless you are running the stock OTA
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Why would you need to unlock again if you are S-OFF?
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hgoldner said:
Why would you need to unlock again if you are S-OFF?
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Run fastboot commands would be the only reason I can think of.
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Run fastboot commands would be the only reason I can think of.
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Yeah I don't care if it says unlocked I love me some fast boot commands
If you are s-off you dont need to re unlock. I cant believe as many ti.es as this has been covered people still worry/do this.
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is this an engineering hBoot?
Not that i know of. Just an hboot update
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If you are s-off you dont need to re unlock. I cant believe as many ti.es as this has been covered people still worry/do this.
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Yup, then if you want to use fastboot flash commands, you need to have the jb hboot as opposed to stock.:highfive:
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Not that i know of. Just an hboot update
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thank you, ill wait for an eng version of it.
apophis9283 said:
If you are s-off you dont need to re unlock. I cant believe as many ti.es as this has been covered people still worry/do this.
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Well if you install the newest hboot and need to run fastboot commands, you do need to unlock.
The Jbear 2.25 hboot works fine on this update if you need extended capabilities. I have flashed the jb2.25 and back to the stock 2.27, I made flashable zips for both stock 2.25 and the 2.27 hboots have flashed between them all on this Patch OTA.
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mjones73 said:
Well if you install the newest hboot and need to run fastboot commands, you do need to unlock.
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No you don't. I've been running fastboot commands all the time and I'm still S-OFF and LOCKED. never re-unlocked my bootloader. It works fine.
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No you don't. I've been running fastboot commands all the time and I'm still S-OFF and LOCKED. never re-unlocked my bootloader. It works fine.
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I stated you need to unlock if you install the latest 2.27 hboot and want to run fastboot commands. As I can see in your signature, you're on an engineering hboot, in that case you would not...
I just unlocked, rooted and S-OFFed a Rezound. I then put my sim in it and it wanted to update. Will that mess anything up if I let it?
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I just unlocked, rooted and S-OFFed a Rezound. I then put my sim in it and it wanted to update. Will that mess anything up if I let it?
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It won't remove s-off, the update won't install unless your locked and running stock recovery.
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Cool. I think I'll just drop a different ROM on it anyways. My B-I-L gave it to me. Said the ear-piece wasn't working and he couldn't hear people talking. After I did the above, I tested it with my sim and calling my house phone and I could hear myself clearly.
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It won't remove s-off, the update won't install unless your locked and running stock recovery.
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You can stay s-off, just keep a locked boot loader and you can install the new RUUs.
GrayTheWolf said:
You can stay s-off, just keep a locked boot loader and you can install the new RUUs.
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That's what I said isn't it?
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That's what I said isn't it?
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You made it seem like you had to relock everything.
To be clear: if you're S-OFF, the update will install (keeping S-OFF intact) regardless of your lock status. I've received more than one OTA update without issue on my S-OFF, unlocked Rezound--after which it remained both S-OFF and unlocked.
S-ON/unlocked is the only permutation of the two that would prevent an OTA update from working properly. That is, if you were S-ON, you would need to be either locked or relocked.
If you're rooted, on the other hand, the OTA will most likely fail. And it definitely will if you have a custom recovery (Amon Ra, TWRP, CWM).
El Schisne said:
To be clear: if you're S-OFF, the update will install (keeping S-OFF intact) regardless of your lock status. I've received more than one OTA update without issue on my S-OFF, unlocked Rezound--after which it remained both S-OFF and unlocked.
S-ON/unlocked is the only permutation of the two that would prevent an OTA update from working properly. That is, if you were S-ON, you would need to be either locked or relocked.
If you're rooted, on the other hand, the OTA will most likely fail. And it definitely will if you have a custom recovery (Amon Ra, TWRP, CWM).
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Mostly true....however the latest ruu will give you the 2.28 hboot in locked status. S-off will remain so you'll have to flash vinylfreaks modded 2.27 hboot from hboot using a ph98img or simply unlock again.
I've done a handful of these lately and always ended up with a locked hboot even if I was unlocked or using a modded hboot prior.
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