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Hi all, I'm new to this part of the xda forums as I had a nexus before, just got the upgrade to the Atrix, rooting,unlocking of bootloader everything went well but I just flashed Aura's from with feux kernel and im getting really really bad battery life, like I'm talking 4-5 hours. There is one process thats really confusing me, its just called "x" and its sitting there taking about 35% battery, my screen is taking 55% battery.
It's getting really annoying as my nexus used to give me about 12 hours and the only reason I moved to the atrix was to get the better battery life that I saw with all my atrix touting friends (they all had 1-2 days battery life) I'm about to flash homebase and see if that fixes it but I don't know whats going on. I have a UK MB860 and I used http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1196747&highlight=t-mobile+root to root. Pleaseee can someone help!
X is the webtop and there is a fix somewhere for that (doesn't completely work). Just flash CM7 beta. Its much better than any other ROM and has the best battery life. Everything except the finger print scanner and webtop work.
Also I had really good battery on the Ying Yang ROM.
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I think I might give CM7 a go you know, I loved CM on the nexus, even after it killed the memory chips it was still good! Im going to try it, is it really stable?
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since updating to CM7 and Wiping my battery stats I have some how gained 39% battery!
amzter said:
I think I might give CM7 a go you know, I loved CM on the nexus, even after it killed the memory chips it was still good! Im going to try it, is it really stable?
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since updating to CM7 and Wiping my battery stats I have some how gained 39% battery!
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I haven't had any issues with it. And the gain is very odd.
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Try alien, i had some battery issues with some other roms and kernels and tried alien and all is good.This phone comes with an 1930Mah battery one of the largest i've ever seen and it lasts me 12 hrs on heavy use.
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I've had great battery life on the atrix, now I'm getting a good look at the atrix on the 4800mah battery. I'm a heavy user and I could not get over 24 hours. And now I have 59 hours and I have yet to actually see how far I can take it. Cm7 beta. Juicey....
I find that all gingerbread roms have horrible battery life compared to froyo on the atrix. Cm7 battery is worse but the phone is smoother. Faux 1.3ghz kernel has even worse battery.
Regardless of the radio or magical method of resetting the battery state you use.
1:25 screen time and at 47% battery. Been off the charger for 6:15. It will make it through my 10hr shift with about 20% remaining if I'm lucky, usually I just toss it on the charger.
Background data is off, email and social apps are manual sync and wifi is off.
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one weird thing I am seeing is the display which is at 0% brightness is using 91% battery
Also the better battery stats app says my actual battery is 91% but the phone is reporting 66% I wiped thenbattery stats but nothing!
please help!
If you haven't taken a look at it, give this a shot:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1198333
Starting to mess around with your phone opens up a world of things that can go wrong. Learn to calm down, search the forums, and try a variety of fixes before giving up on something.
...and use nandroid.
ian426 said:
If you haven't taken a look at it, give this a shot:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1198333
Starting to mess around with your phone opens up a world of things that can go wrong. Learn to calm down, search the forums, and try a variety of fixes before giving up on something.
...and use nandroid.
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I was just about to post that lol. Also make sure every time you flash a new rom you are at 100% if not that is a sure fire way to cheat yourself out of battery life. I don't know if I'm just one of "the lucky ones" but I easily get over 16+ hours with moderate usage. I'm running CM7 beta with quite a few things frozen.
Ok so I followed the guide to perfection and it didn't improve the battery life one bit! I'm trying hard to find a t-mobile radio I can flash as I have read around it could be my radio that is the culprit and I am also getting rubbish HSDPA readings, I should be getting full bars but since switching to homebase Im only getting one bar.
Using watchdog I have noticed that the Xorg process is using over 50% cpu which does not seem right to be and I believe that because its a linux process Watchdog can't kill it. Is there anyway of fixing this?
1) Uninstall Tango, Facebook and Handcent SMS if any of the three are installed. They are huge battery drainers and you can find less battery hogging substitutes
2) Freeze any unnecessary apps, I believe there is a thread somewhere in the General section that has a pretty decent freeze list (if you flash CM7, you will have very little to freeze but that's good!)
3) Keep brightness down to a minimum when you can, I've noticed kicking the brightness up rather high can be pretty demanding on your battery
4) Set SetCPU Profiles to something like this...
Screen Off 216/216
Charging 1100/216
In Call 456/216
Battery <20% 456/216
Battery <10% 216/216
5) If you have the proper kernel set the CPU govner to power saver.
6) Undervolt, test yours and never apply set on boot unless you are positive it's stable, mine are something like this...
1100 MHz -50mV
1000 MHz -50mV
912 MHz -50mV
750 MHz -50mV
608 MHz -100mV
456 MHz -150mV
216 MHz -200mV
This way when you're phone is idling with the screen off, in a call or low on battery it is undervolting heavily to save maximum amounts of battery
With this setup I can get 30+ hours pretty regularly with moderate-to-heavy usage (weekdays/non-work days), 22-25 hours with more heavy usage (work days) and close to 48 hours with little usage (weekends).
It all depends on your usage and your phone but I have found this setup here to work fairly well.
I am currently on CM7 Beta, stock CM7 radio and stock CM7 kernel, running at 1100/216 when above profile conditions aren't met. 32% been running since 9 am this morning, it is now 3:15 am, today was a long workday.
I can almost guarantee (almost) that its your rom/kernel combination. Had same problem til I changed.
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fastboot erase osh
That will nuke your webtop & fix your problem.
I'm now using faux kernel for CM7 and that hasn't improved anything, in fact I think it it has made it worse. It's getting really irretating because using the watch dog app it always says there is one linux process on every rom I use that is clocking at over 50% cpu usage and It won't let me kill it (probably because it's a linux process), its really annoying me because all I want is my phone to work properly but to enjoy the full rooting experience. I know countless amounts of people with atrix's and they get a full day and a bit out of their phone with heavy usage i can't even manage 10 hours!
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I'm now using faux kernel for CM7 and that hasn't improved anything, in fact I think it it has made it worse. It's getting really irretating because using the watch dog app it always says there is one linux process on every rom I use that is clocking at over 50% cpu usage and It won't let me kill it (probably because it's a linux process), its really annoying me because all I want is my phone to work properly but to enjoy the full rooting experience. I know countless amounts of people with atrix's and they get a full day and a bit out of their phone with heavy usage i can't even manage 10 hours!
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Watchdog eats battery like a mthrfckr, get away from that. Install BetterBatterStats instead & look for wakelocks. Which linux process are you noticing with that high cpu usage?
How many hours of screen time do you get in those 10 hrs?
Have you tried with a fastboot wipe & internal storage format prior to installing a new rom? Are you using the latest recommended radio for your phone?
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please help!
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Turn background syncing off if you are using that, and get in the habit of doing manual updates.
Too many times (with ANY Android device) people leave background syncing on and it tries sending/receiving data in a weak signal spot when you don't realize it. That's like a hot knife through butter on a battery.
Leave syncing off permanently if possible! That's a huge improvement right there for anyone...
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Turn background syncing off if you are using that, and get in the habit of doing manual updates.
Too many times (with ANY Android device) people leave background syncing on and it tries sending/receiving data in a weak signal spot when you don't realize it. That's like a hot knife through butter on a battery.
Leave syncing off permanently if possible! That's a huge improvement right there for anyone...
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That's a bit radical, no?
I'd say use Green Power so the phone can update every half hour or hour. It's a smartphone at the end of the day..
I have been messing around with system tuner app for a while now and I really like the program.
I would like to hear from people who have used this app and their results with various tweaks that this app provides.
in the boot settings menu:
1. forcing both CPU's online: this should technically give you a better battery life, since it puts less strain on on cpu at a time, has anyone had a good exprience using this?
2. Boost app loading: anyone had any significant improvement with this?
My own settings:
I usually clock my phone at 1.5 (on demand governor) even though faux's kernel allows 1.7 max. I put max clock for screen off at 384 and conservative governor.
I have Undervolted before but do not see a very significant battery difference so I just left it alone.
I tried out the autokill option of system tuner, I only tried to kill the ghost apps, to refrain from the cpu from having to keep restarting the phone, but this also seems to kill battery life...In my experience any type of task killer however detailed will reduce battery and does not increase performance, unless you're running a poorly written app that just needs to be killed.
I use three other programs to monitor my phone
1. system pannel: very good at finding rogue apps that kill cpu...I highly recommend the pro version, you can get a history of what has used cpu up to a week.
2. Onavo and My data manger which basically monitor my wifi and mobile traffic, Onavo only monitors mobile network traffic and lets you restrict apps to only wifi. however it does not measure wifi use of data. My data manager monitor both wifi and network usage but does not give you any options to do anything with the apps, it basically tells you what program is using data while on wifi and mobile.
If anyone has found a good balance between performance and battery saving, please do share.
Thank you.
I read some other guy also mentioned the all cpus on thing. im not sure but isnt it the same as making both processors work at the same time which leads to phone overheating? I will give it a try though. from what you noticed, do you like it more with both cpu on or is better the way it was?
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I read some other guy also mentioned the all cpus on thing. im not sure but isnt it the same as making both processors work at the same time which leads to phone overheating? I will give it a try though. from what you noticed, do you like it more with both cpu on or is better the way it was?
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technically this is how it's supposed to work pic attatched, but I don't know if our roms or even the dual core rom that's out works in this manner, if it did we would be seeing significant battery savings
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technically this is how it's supposed to work pic attatched, but I don't know if our roms or even the dual core rom that's out works in this manner, if it did we would be seeing significant battery savings
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will see then. hey seansk do you notice some kind of hesitation when trying to unlock the phone? when u press the unlock button at the top. I think that boost app loading thing causes this cuz when have it enabled the unlock button you have to press it twice to work, while when disabling that boost app loading thing all works fine...
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will see then. hey seansk do you notice some kind of hesitation when trying to unlock the phone? when u press the unlock button at the top. I think that boost app loading thing causes this cuz when have it enabled the unlock button you have to press it twice to work, while when disabling that boost app loading thing all works fine...
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I have widget locker and havn't had that problem...I just flashed faux's latest kernel and am in the process of re calibrating my battery, it seemed to jump from 100 to 90 in about 10 minutes!!!!!! now I noticed that happening...but I havn't had time to fully replicate it...i need more time..I believe it might have something to do with fauxes kernel, he mentioned that when screen goes off he it puts the phone into a low power consumption mode, but also has something that when you turn it on, is quick to turn on!!! we'll have to wait and see.
If you've been following this thread, just wanted make a quick update...I want to give you my results with system tuner tweaking. Forcing both cores online is a bad idea. It will literally kill your battery in a matter of a couple of hours. ICS will hopefully be different and utilize the cores how they should be, saving some battery and giving the amaze longer battery life!
On the other hand reducing reducing clock frequency on screen off will help in battery life (obviously).
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If you've been following this thread, just wanted make a quick update...I want to give you my results with system tuner tweaking. Forcing both cores online is a bad idea. It will literally kill your battery in a matter of a couple of hours. ICS will hopefully be different and utilize the cores how they should be, saving some battery and giving the amaze longer battery life!
On the other hand reducing reducing clock frequency on screen off will help in battery life (obviously).
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I was noticing the same. It eats more battery. Have u tried reducing the frequency when screen off and by how much? U still r stock rom?
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Felinos11 said:
I was noticing the same. It eats more battery. Have u tried reducing the frequency when screen off and by how much? U still r stock rom?
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yes still stock rooted, I put the governor on conservative and put the frequency to 384 or around there, while screen is off.
What helps most I found out is turning off all the radios like wifi and network data, (basically putting phone on airplane mode). Instead of dropping down 15 percent in 6 hours it drops like 3 when I turn airplane on. But like I've said before it's unrealistic I'm always recieving google talk, google voice, facebook updates and I have to have both of these on which unfortunately eats a lot of battery.
I keep switching back and forth between faux's kernel and stock and I'm actually finding stock gives me better battery life for some reason. Even though I set the clock speeds on both at 1.5 ghz.
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yes still stock rooted, I put the governor on conservative and put the frequency to 384 or around there, while screen is off.
What helps most I found out is turning off all the radios like wifi and network data, (basically putting phone on airplane mode). Instead of dropping down 15 percent in 6 hours it drops like 3 when I turn airplane on. But like I've said before it's unrealistic I'm always recieving google talk, google voice, facebook updates and I have to have both of these on which unfortunately eats a lot of battery.
I keep switching back and forth between faux's kernel and stock and I'm actually finding stock gives me better battery life for some reason. Even though I set the clock speeds on both at 1.5 ghz.
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is the stock rom any better? Im thinking to switch to stock now X left..
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is the stock rom any better? Im thinking to switch to stock now X left..
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never used bulletproof for more than a day or beastmod for more than a day. I hear beastmod gives much better battery life. I'm sticking to stock for now until ICS comes out.
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never used bulletproof for more than a day or beastmod for more than a day. I hear beastmod gives much better battery life. I'm sticking to stock for now until ICS comes out.
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They have maybe a bit better battery life. I went back to stock.
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Battery Life
Major battery drain is the screen, when on eats up all the juice, dimming helps a bit
charge source: usb vs AC charge
usb charging takes quite a while, AC charge quicker (~ an hour)
Also, from my observation, usb charged battery runs out quicker than AC charge
Data Connection, Juice defender helps a lot
turn off sync you don't need, like HTC sense
if something is eating up your battery, use this http://market.android.com/details?i...ePad&utm_medium=app&utm_campaign=contextpanel. The thread is located http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
heyodee said:
Battery Life
Major battery drain is the screen, when on eats up all the juice, dimming helps a bit
charge source: usb vs AC charge
usb charging takes quite a while, AC charge quicker (~ an hour)
Also, from my observation, usb charged battery runs out quicker than AC charge
Juice defender helps a lot
turn off sync you don't need, like HTC sense
if something is eating up your battery, use this http://market.android.com/details?i...ePad&utm_medium=app&utm_campaign=contextpanel. The thread is located http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
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well the problem is its not my screen. It's when the phone is idle, I usually lose about 15 to 20 percent over night. if I turn off the radios it drops down to about 3 to 4 percent overnight....like I said before I can't turn off the radios...I constantly use google voice, google talk, facebook. And they require both a cell connection and a data connection. I hate to pay for more apps...I've already paid for a bunch of apps to control and see my phone's usage of cpu and battery...is the app really worth it? wish they had a lite version
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well the problem is its not my screen. It's when the phone is idle, I usually lose about 15 to 20 percent over night. if I turn off the radios it drops down to about 3 to 4 percent overnight....like I said before I can't turn off the radios...I constantly use google voice, google talk, facebook. And they require both a cell connection and a data connection. I hate to pay for more apps...I've already paid for a bunch of apps to control and see my phone's usage of cpu and battery...is the app really worth it? wish they had a lite version
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Juice defender is worth it (Very configurable)
If you want to know what is eating away at your battery when phone is suppose to be sleeping, the battery stat is
heyodee said:
Juice defender is worth it (Very configurable)
If you want to know what is eating away at your battery when phone is suppose to be sleeping, the battery stat is
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I have juicedefender ultimate, used it for a while actually...the only good use of it is turns off radios all other things when screen is off..all other things are negligible to battery life...I currently don't use it anymore. I tried multiple things/tweaks with it for about two weeks,...NO point lol...I want to be able to get my google talk message and my google voice texts, it annoyed the hell out of me when someone had sent something like 2 hours before and I would just get it when I woke my phone!!! I tried all kinds of things...but the only thing that actually worked was turning off radios during screen off which I don't want...I can't win lol....I can't have my cake and eat it too!!
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I have juicedefender ultimate, used it for a while actually...the only good use of it is turns off radios all other things when screen is off..all other things are negligible to battery life...I currently don't use it anymore. I tried multiple things/tweaks with it for about two weeks,...NO point lol...I want to be able to get my google talk message and my google voice texts, it annoyed the hell out of me when someone had sent something like 2 hours before and I would just get it when I woke my phone!!! I tried all kinds of things...but the only thing that actually worked was turning off radios during screen off which I don't want...I can't win lol....I can't have my cake and eat it too!!
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while you sleep, you won't be checking for emails will you? but you expect to wake and see emails received.... that is where it comes in handy. with apps like tasker, you can automate some of this activities. tasker + syncer should be a good combo for you.
seansk said:
well the problem is its not my screen. It's when the phone is idle, I usually lose about 15 to 20 percent over night. if I turn off the radios it drops down to about 3 to 4 percent overnight....like I said before I can't turn off the radios...I constantly use google voice, google talk, facebook. And they require both a cell connection and a data connection. I hate to pay for more apps...I've already paid for a bunch of apps to control and see my phone's usage of cpu and battery...is the app really worth it? wish they had a lite version
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For what it is worth I am running BulletProof 2.3.1 and last night I took phone off charger at 10:00 PM, alarm goes off at 3:30 snoozing every 15 min until 4:15...Battery was at 100% still. It is now 7:00 AM and battery is at 96%.
This was after flashing back to BP around 8:00 PM.
I've noticed the same type of activity when in Airplane mode. Extremely low power consumption - fantastic.
Is it possible maybe to undervolt the Wifi/BT/Mobile radios? Would that make any difference or am I off base here?
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I have juicedefender ultimate, used it for a while actually...the only good use of it is turns off radios all other things when screen is off..all other things are negligible to battery life...I currently don't use it anymore. I tried multiple things/tweaks with it for about two weeks,...NO point lol...I want to be able to get my google talk message and my google voice texts, it annoyed the hell out of me when someone had sent something like 2 hours before and I would just get it when I woke my phone!!! I tried all kinds of things...but the only thing that actually worked was turning off radios during screen off which I don't want...I can't win lol....I can't have my cake and eat it too!!
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You had something setup wrong then I think.. you can change how often in syncs while the screen is off, the default setting is for it to turn on data for 1 minute every 15 minutes. Most people don't need to know things so bad that they can't work with a 14 minute delay(at worst), and of couse the internet is on while screen is on, when you're actually using it.
I thought I would need to use juice defender, but since I switched to bulletproof, my usage last me an entire day. From 8am till 1am, usually with some to spare. The only tweak I made to cpu was to enable 192mhz, it isn't like there is a performance drop, but it did make a notable difference in battery life.
If I wanted to I could use juice defender to get more than one day out of it, and I keep a spare battery on me in case I really need to use the phone.. but haven't really needed it.
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For what it is worth I am running BulletProof 2.3.1 and last night I took phone off charger at 10:00 PM, alarm goes off at 3:30 snoozing every 15 min until 4:15...Battery was at 100% still. It is now 7:00 AM and battery is at 96%.
This was after flashing back to BP around 8:00 PM.
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How many apps have you installed?
So in the last few weeks, my standby time has gone down a great deal. I have power efficiency and power saver turned on. All of my accounts are on manual sync and I don't sync them because I am trying to get an idea of what is sucking away my power. My screen brightness is set to 20% and I hardly use my phone for calls during the day as I use my desk phone for that. Wifi and bluetooth are disabled. I really have a love/hate relationship with this phone.
Anyone have any ideas?
I'm actually on the same boat. Just this morning I unplugged it...battery said 100% then 4.5hrs later its down to 17%. The phone was running pretty hot too...I even mentioned it too my wife and she said it was pretty hot. Not doing too much with it while it happened. Just woke up ...poked around on xda and fb. Then took my lil one to the bus stop while taking the dog for a walk..come 11oclock my phone was at 17%....I'm gonna wipe and start all over..hopefully it gets whatever is causing the issues. I usually get a good 10-16 hrs depending on use.
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Have you tried using a different battery? I bought an anker battery online and it turned out to be better than the stock battery. Maybe my stock one was faulty,can't really explain. But you should try it.
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download badass battery from the market, it will tell you everything!
Two days ago my amaze started doing what you describe,battery life from 100% to 10% in about 5 hrs MAX, also the phone was very hot, so I pull out the battery but with no results. I notice that 4g was always downloading data, I verified the running services on the phone and discover the calendar apk was rebooting like crazy...the real problem was peep calendar sync was somehow stuck and after turning it to manual voilá! problem solved, temperature goes down, 4g stopped working and battery stopped draining. hope this help think you may found a solution verifying running services.
My amaze is 100% stock.
What helped my battery life was reducing sync frequency. Coming from a MT4G, I was used to updating work mail every 5 minutes. Changed all my sync timers to 1 hour and my battery life improved from 6 hours (including standby) to over 20 hours. I also disabled wifi increased performance (I had previously enabled it) and used medium brightness. A shame, that last one, because the screen is beautiful at full brightness.
That's weird. I have everything synced and I still get about 6 hours a day of use. Of course not heavy use though.
OK, I installed badass battery. I also turned off the weather widget. I removed my phone from the charger at 730am this morning and at 330pm, my battery is at 95% according to badass battery. I also turned off the wallpaper I was using that was displaying 4 clocks in 4 diffent time zones. I wouldn't have thought that those 2 things would drain the battery like it was.
Like I said........Love/Hate relationship.
I installed screen filter from the market last night and used it to turn off the backlight from the hardware buttons, and I also reduced the sync frequency like someone else said (and turned some useless ones off completely). I unplugged my phone at about 8:50 a.m. this morning. It is now 7:53 p.m., and my battery has only lost 22% of its charge (unheard of for me after 11 hours). Don't know which of those helped more, but my battery life is definitely a lot better.
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I installed screen filter from the market last night and used it to turn off the backlight from the hardware buttons, and I also reduced the sync frequency like someone else said (and turned some useless ones off completely). I unplugged my phone at about 8:50 a.m. this morning. It is now 7:53 p.m., and my battery has only lost 22% of its charge (unheard of for me after 11 hours). Don't know which of those helped more, but my battery life is definitely a lot better.
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Wow! I wish I had battery power like that. I was on NRG's ROM but found the battery to be draining pretty fast (~7 hours with moderate use). I installed fourth bar sense last night because of all the positive battery reviews I heard. Removed my charger at 700AM, it is now almost 830AM and I am at 88% with light use (drained too fast for 1.5 hours in minimal use IMO). I am trying to control the syncing and its auto-brightness
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Wow! I wish I had battery power like that. I was on NRG's ROM but found the battery to be draining pretty fast (~7 hours with moderate use). I installed fourth bar sense last night because of all the positive battery reviews I heard. Removed my charger at 700AM, it is now almost 830AM and I am at 88% with light use (drained too fast for 1.5 hours in minimal use IMO). I am trying to control the syncing and its auto-brightness
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Auto-brightness will never help you save battery. The best option IMO is 20 - 33% brightness
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tedya said:
OK, I installed badass battery. I also turned off the weather widget. I removed my phone from the charger at 730am this morning and at 330pm, my battery is at 95% according to badass battery. I also turned off the wallpaper I was using that was displaying 4 clocks in 4 diffent time zones. I wouldn't have thought that those 2 things would drain the battery like it was.
Like I said........Love/Hate relationship.
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That's almost too hard to believe! You don't have Gmail?
Are you rooted and using a custom rom?
Really depends on what's running, live wallpaper will definitely suck the life out of a battery but other apps do as well. I installed an auto loan program once and over the next couple of days my battery life seemed possessed, you could almost watch it drain, 60, 59, 58.... so I uninstalling things and when I got to that it went back to normal. Not sure what causes this, sloppy programming, nefarious evil things, who knows. I never have always connected anything, that's just asking for a kick me. I also use custom roms and that really makes a big impact on the plus side. I get a good full day of pretty heavy use out of my amaze but I also have a spare Anker battery just in case, that to me is cheap insurance especially on the road.
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Auto-brightness will never help you save battery. The best option IMO is 20 - 33% brightness
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That's almost too hard to believe! You don't have Gmail?
Are you rooted and using a custom rom?
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I do have Gmail. Should I be checking something here? As far as root and custom ROM? No it is bone stock.
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I installed screen filter from the market last night and used it to turn off the backlight from the hardware buttons, and I also reduced the sync frequency like someone else said (and turned some useless ones off completely). I unplugged my phone at about 8:50 a.m. this morning. It is now 7:53 p.m., and my battery has only lost 22% of its charge (unheard of for me after 11 hours). Don't know which of those helped more, but my battery life is definitely a lot better.
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I am not sure how that is possible as I wouldn't think the soft key lighting would suck much battery life, not to mention I use that app and get no where near those hours. I know sync will increase it, but that much? Got a screen shot of this claim?
Even in stand by mode, the battery drops more than 30% for me in 8 hours if I forget to charge it overnight.
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I ,am on it a lot, between GPS and general usage, ,but this still seems like too fast to drain compared to what others here have said. I had this problem with my Atrix too, maybe i am just destined for bad luck with battery life
Do you use anything like juice defender. This app literly doubled my battery life!
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Dillsnik said:
I ,am on it a lot, between GPS and general usage, ,but this still seems like too fast to drain compared to what others here have said. I had this problem with my Atrix too, maybe i am just destined for bad luck with battery life
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how much screen on time do u get?
Cozzeck said:
Do you use anything like juice defender. This app literly doubled my battery life!
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Apps like that only increase standby battery life. Everything else is very minimal.
And I'm not happy with the battery life either. My phone is plugged in right now and the battery is actually going down as I use it.
Ready for the HTC One X
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This happened to me since i first got the phone it has slowed down and now the phone can last through the day ever since at&t throttled me for this month goes without saying ill take it easy next month. so most likely if your in an lte area thats the problem
Maroon Mushroom said:
Apps like that only increase standby battery life. Everything else is very minimal.
And I'm not happy with the battery life either. My phone is plugged in right now and the battery is actually going down as I use it.
Ready for the HTC One X
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If it's notbthe stock charger you areblikely not using a rapid charger.
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I pull mine off the charger at 7:00 and at 3pm or so it's down to 85%, I'll put it on the charger at work until I leave around 5-6pm (mainly because I'm used to having to do this on my previous phone) and at night if I'm not using it constantly it's around 70-75% when I plug it in at bed time.
I suspect anyone getting that bad of battery life must be using it constantly, ie: Playing games, browsing, trolling facebook, etc.. Even in the "new toy" stage I'm getting great battery life.
FYI I don't have LTE, but do generally have good 4G.
You honestly can't use any phone on GPS without external power and expect that you're not going to discharge quickly. Assuming that you are running a car charger during GPS and just didn't say so, search the i-717 threads, since the topic has been well vetted on what chargers are more effective,etc. There are definite differences.
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The fact that there are people out there that get really good battery life means the problem is you and not the phone. If you refresh facebook every minute of course your battery life will be crappy. apps like juicedefender are just marketing crap. as long as there are no running apps in the background that eat your battery, you do not need any juicedefender or tasker. also setting screen-off behavior to conservative on set cpu helps improve battery life.
When I first got my i717 and was using it on the stock rom I had pretty terrible battery life. I take it off the charger at 5:00am and had decent battery life (around 5 to 7 hours without GPS) but I use my phone a lot for internet/email. I think your battery life is completely normal given your usage.
Most people get about 5hrs screen on time. Total on battery ranges up to about 24hrs, but only if the screen is off at least 19 of them.
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lastdeadmouse said:
Most people get about 5hrs screen on time. Total on battery ranges up to about 24hrs, but only if the screen is off at least 19 of them.
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5 hours? Would you mind posting a link to suh a claim? I barely get 12 hours total with 2 hours of screen time.
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khaytsus said:
I pull mine off the charger at 7:00 and at 3pm or so it's down to 85%, I'll put it on the charger at work until I leave around 5-6pm (mainly because I'm used to having to do this on my previous phone) and at night if I'm not using it constantly it's around 70-75% when I plug it in at bed time.
I suspect anyone getting that bad of battery life must be using it constantly, ie: Playing games, browsing, trolling facebook, etc.. Even in the "new toy" stage I'm getting great battery life.
FYI I don't have LTE, but do generally have good 4G.
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7-3 is 8 hours
exactly how much screen on time do you have by the time its at 85% ? because i mean, it can go on standy for days with nothing on
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h0tw1r3 said:
5 hours? Would you mind posting a link to suh a claim? I barely get 12 hours total with 2 hours of screen time.
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i can get about 3 or so
5 hours of screen time AND 19hours standby sounds incredible
would sure like to see screen shot as well
and def dont think 5 hours is any type of avg
I had GPS running on my phone for 4 hours today, had blue tooth on half the time without knowing it, sending text messages, making two 5 min phone calls, checking maps, checking FML and reading a book for about an hour and drained down to about 70% and I have the brightness set at auto. I would exchange it for a new battery.
On average with several texts per hour, several 5-10 min phone calls, taking a few pics and uploading them to picasa, checking facebook, updating status and checking emails I can pull off the charger at 630am and still have 50% battery (at least) by 630pm.
I do have the juicedefender (which isn't crap, it turns off signal after so long so you aren't trolling for signals when you aren't on the phone).
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I had GPS running on my phone for 4 hours today, had blue tooth on half the time without knowing it, sending text messages, making two 5 min phone calls, checking maps, checking FML and reading a book for about an hour and drained down to about 70% and I have the brightness set at auto. I would exchange it for a new battery.
On average with several texts per hour, several 5-10 min phone calls, taking a few pics and uploading them to picasa, checking facebook, updating status and checking emails I can pull off the charger at 630am and still have 50% battery (at least) by 630pm.
I do have the juicedefender (which isn't crap, it turns off signal after so long so you aren't trolling for signals when you aren't on the phone).
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and whats your screen on time for that 12 hour 6am-6pm with 50% still left please?
Just buy a second battery and throw it in at noon. No biggie.
kimtyson said:
Just buy a second battery and throw it in at noon. No biggie.
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Was thinking of doing that since they're so cheap but thanks to juice defense I don't really have that issue no more.
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h0tw1r3 said:
5 hours? Would you mind posting a link to suh a claim? I barely get 12 hours total with 2 hours of screen time.
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I had a ss of my buddies yesterday, but can't restore mms lol. There are plenty of other ss in the note section. He was at 22+ hrs with about 4:30 of screen on and some % remaining. I have to charge around 7-9 everynight at 4-4:30 hrs screen on, but my use is pretty heavy. I sync 4 gmail accounts, a separate GV, 3 calendars, and several apps.
If yours is much worse than that, you likely have a few troublesome apps or are playing games. First, after a full charge, reset cpuspy timers, lock it, and set it down for a few hours (I know, impossible). Then check to see that your CPU has been in deep sleep about 95% of the time. If not, use better battery stats to see what has been request wakelocks. Not only the most total time, but the total number. Any app that looks outrageous, freeze it or uninstall it. For system processes that look troublesome, Google. You can often find simple tricks online that will tell you what's causing them to go crazy. Beyond that, turn off syncing of anything that isn't needed or doesn't matter (like Facebook), and uninstall stuff you never use.
Another slight help is the brightness widget (don't use the actual widget, just put the app on your homescreen, it works the same) or dimmer in market as they can both set the brightness to a value of 10 (Samsung lowest stock is 20), and even if you can't tell the difference, it helps. Jkay settings in saurom can set the auto brightness profile slightly darker than stock. Umm, and the obvious, use less Widgets, longer sync intervals, processor scaling and speed profiles, and buy a couple rapid chargers, wall and auto.
A couple things to note after seeing a few of these posts...
BT can be on, but without it searching, connected, or listening it's not active.
GPS isn't active unless its in use aand you see the icon in the notification bar. That being said, fb, websites, and many other apps that request location will activate it.
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YOU MUST CALIBERATE THE BATTERY!! I have no issues I use my phone heavy all day and get 15 hours and I still have 20% left. All you have to do is
1) Charge you phone until it says "charged"
2)Leave phone plugged in and power off and let it charge until the battery meter literally says "100" (screen will sleep so you can check with volume rocker to light screen)
3) power on phone and let boot and than power off and wait till you see 100% again
4) now keep doin this and you will notice it will start displaying "100%" faster and faster usually takes 6-7 times cycling like this
5) After you do this download Battery Caliberation (root required) app from market and hit the caliberate button and boom your good to go
I do this on every android phone I own when I flash a new rom or purchase a fresh one. Everyone should do this everytime you flash a new rom and I can CONFIRM significant battery longevity on all my android phones I have done this with
You only have to do it once so just get it out the way and you'll get through a whole dayand have some juice to play with.
I get 15+ hours and do not any battery juice defender apps
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Underground_XI said:
The fact that there are people out there that get really good battery life means the problem is you and not the phone. If you refresh facebook every minute of course your battery life will be crappy. apps like juicedefender are just marketing crap. as long as there are no running apps in the background that eat your battery, you do not need any juicedefender or tasker. also setting screen-off behavior to conservative on set cpu helps improve battery life.
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Just to be clear here, Tasker has nothing to do with battery life. It doesn't hurt it, nor "help" it. However, you certainly could write tasks/contexts that would decrease battery life, and there are a few scripts out there which do silly stuff like autokilling, etc... But if we're talking "battery savings", Tasker and JD do not go in the same category.
IMO JD is only useful if you're frequently in an area with no signal, like you work in a basement or deep inside of a solidly constructed building. Since you mentioned Tasker, in this context it does help me a bit on battery because my wifi turns off when I leave the house, but that's also something JD can help with. If you don't have a wifi connection it'll turn off wifi (and I believe turn it back on periodically to see if there's one available?) I don't use JD, so can't speak too much for it.
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7-3 is 8 hours
exactly how much screen on time do you have by the time its at 85% ? because i mean, it can go on standy for days with nothing on
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Hour? Hour and a half? I'm working during that period. I usually hit news sites and G+ when I'm first at my desk in the morning, so that's 30 minutes or so off and on looking at it, then perhaps an hour over the rest of the day, sometimes more at lunch.
I'll look closer today and post back.
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YOU MUST CALIBERATE THE BATTERY!!
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Complete nonsense. https://plus.google.com/105051985738280261832/posts/FV3LVtdVxPT
I decided to make a thread to see what kind of battery life and performance people are getting with their devices. Please include what build you're on, the kernel you're using, any special apps you're using, and any comments you have about your setup.
Guess I'll start..
Build: The Base 0.7.3 (4.0.4)
Kernel: sk8's 2.2 ICS kernel
Apps: Android Tuner Pro and SetCPU
I use Android Tuner for voltage control and governor settings. SetCPU is used for profiles to adjust the CPU frequencies for different apps. As well as a lot of tweaks I've applied. Forgot to take a screenshot before I charged my phone, but I'm able to push 36hours with about 6 hours of screen on time.
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Pure stock rooted, locked bootloader, frozen bloatware. 18000+ on average Antutu, over 7000 Quadrant average. Battery goes from 12 hours to 27 hours, my two broadest 'average' ranges. 12 had moderate use, 27 had light use, data off, power saver on.
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Make sure you also post your screen on time like the OP. Your ROM, kernel, tweaks, etc are important, but screen on time is the closest we can get to a constant variable.
On 12 hours, screen on was about 3 hours. 27 it was about 45 minutes. I've deleted the screenshots though.
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Great, Nice work
On ginsix v1.5. Only sync I have is my Google account and gps always on. Brightness set to 60%. I usually get 4 hours of on screen time and up to 30 hours depending on use.
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I am running rooted Stock ROM/Kernel (waiting for official JB update) with unlocked bootloader. I have been recieving terrible battery life though! I've tried calibrating it and still had issues. Besides that, I get like -5% every 7 minutes of low-mild screen on use even with Eco, Powersave, and underclocked at 384 MHz all enabled. About -10% every hour with the screen off. :/ I'm going to go ahead and factory reset/wipe and restore my apps. Hopefully this will solve my jacked up battery.
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I think the battery has improved just a tiny bit after factory resetting. It not exactly satisfactory (about -9% every hour with screen off), but I think that might be normal for smartphones, right?? Under battery stats, it shows "Android OS" as using over 40% of the battery. I don't think that's normal.
SeekerofLight.iz said:
I am running rooted Stock ROM/Kernel (waiting for official JB update) with unlocked bootloader. I have been recieving terrible battery life though! I've tried calibrating it and still had issues. Besides that, I get like -5% every 7 minutes of low-mild screen on use even with Eco, Powersave, and underclocked at 384 MHz all enabled. About -10% every hour with the screen off. :/ I'm going to go ahead and factory reset/wipe and restore my apps. Hopefully this will solve my jacked up battery.
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I think the battery has improved just a tiny bit after factory resetting. It not exactly satisfactory (about -9% every hour with screen off), but I think that might be normal for smartphones, right?? Under battery stats, it shows "Android OS" as using over 40% of the battery. I don't think that's normal.
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My AndroidOS is also higher than 40% but I only lose 1-2% per hour with the screen off. Have you tried FD toggle?
SeekerofLight.iz said:
I am running rooted Stock ROM/Kernel (waiting for official JB update) with unlocked bootloader. I have been recieving terrible battery life though! I've tried calibrating it and still had issues. Besides that, I get like -5% every 7 minutes of low-mild screen on use even with Eco, Powersave, and underclocked at 384 MHz all enabled. About -10% every hour with the screen off. :/ I'm going to go ahead and factory reset/wipe and restore my apps. Hopefully this will solve my jacked up battery.
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I think the battery has improved just a tiny bit after factory resetting. It not exactly satisfactory (about -9% every hour with screen off), but I think that might be normal for smartphones, right?? Under battery stats, it shows "Android OS" as using over 40% of the battery. I don't think that's normal.
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That's the main reason why I use The Base. On top of being speedy, there a "fix" option for fast dormancy which helped me tremendously seeing as I rarely use LTE. It's like.. It disables it when not in use, but enables it when needed.
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So what is defined as "On Screen time"? I charged my phone all night and this morning unplugged the phone and turned on my screen and told it to not go turn off ever. I was hoping to test out the heating issue, as the previous version would start to get hot after half an hour of screen time. I left it sitting on my desk all day and after about 7 hours it ran down to 15 percent but when i look at "on screen time" it shows only about 5 hours (it should be at 7 hours as i started this when i got to work 7 hours ago...). I literaly just left my phone on and didn't interact with it at all, all day. Seems a whole lot better to me than the phone i got this as a replacement for. But was just wondering what is calculated for on screen time.
BTW: This is stock phone, just pulled out of the factory box. Not rooted, not unlocked, don't even have any accounts tied to it or moved any icons around.
It's best to track battery life/screen on time with every day use. Or for those that are heavy users, with games and such. Just leaving my phone on idle with screen on I can get about 11 hours as all my cores but 1 go offline while one remains at 384MHz.
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I'm completely stock after using LGNPST after soft bricks and my battery life is like 6 hours for a 8 hour shift at the job
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I was having crap battery life on the stock Rom only unlocked by freegee. Now on the Canadian jelly and life is good again.
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After six hours my batter is at 87%.. this is much better than the five percent per hour I was getting before flashing jb. It was already doing well as far as I'm concerned... in line with my galaxy nexus using an extended battery... very happy
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I'm on slick ROM, screen at 63% brightness, constantly use my phone for gaming , fb, and browsing the internet and I usually get at least 10 hours of use before I get to about 15% , I have never had any battery life issues with this phone. I don't talk on it a lot, but constantly text throughout the day. I can let this phone sleep all night and maybe be at most 96% when I wake up as well
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Neroga said:
That's the main reason why I use The Base. On top of being speedy, there a "fix" option for fast dormancy which helped me tremendously seeing as I rarely use LTE. It's like.. It disables it when not in use, but enables it when needed.
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You can do the fast dormancy fix, even on stock ICS. There's a thread, in this section, that's dedicated to it (there's even an app, if you are unsure of doing the code submission that's outlined in the thread). It makes a HUGE difference, in my battery life.
dbgeek said:
You can do the fast dormancy fix, even on stock ICS. There's a thread, in this section, that's dedicated to it (there's even an app, if you are unsure of doing the code submission that's outlined in the thread). It makes a HUGE difference, in my battery life.
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It's really easy. My rom has it as well.
Using a Note 2 the last few days. Turned on the OG yesterday to take some pics of it as I 'm trading the note 2 for HTC butterfly. Just noticed this a few minutes ago........
Phone is rooted, stock AT&T rom,
Pretty sweet. This is my favorite phone of all time.
Before anyone jumps all over me, I realize the phone has been in standby for all but 5-10 mins of this time. Still can't believe how little battery it has used on standby.
I hate to tell you maddog, but there's no way that's accurate.
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Nastybutler said:
I hate to tell you maddog, but there's no way that's accurate.
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It does seem to good to be true. I've unplugged it at night before and when getting up 7 hours later noticed it was still at100.
Even thou I agree, this phone has great battery life on stand by.
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