I just talked to a local store (don't know how credible he is though) and was told ICS upgrades would start coming to AT&T phone next month. I confirmed this at 2 other stores in nearby cities this weekend who said the same thing. Seems legit.
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Would be nice to finally get a kernel and get some OC going
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Seems legitimate. AT&T and other like to get a flagship phone for something before they release the update and next month the HTC x one will be the first ICS phone to hit AT&T. Im starting to get excited.
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Seems legitimate. AT&T and other like to get a flagship phone for something before they release the update and next month the HTC x one will be the first ICS phone to hit AT&T. Im starting to get excited.
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Technically, the Vivid already has ICS. I would hate to think that AT&T is holding up the ICS update for the Note (and the GS2 and Skyrocket for that matter) to appease HTC, since AT&T and HTC are like "bros"...
No doubt bring on the ics.
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this timeline would also play nicely with the rumor of a new ICS leak. Perhaps we can look forward to a leak of the final ICS.
Dont trust the reps
Trust me. No AT&T rep inside a store has any information on when phone updates are coming out. ;-)
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Trust me. No AT&T rep inside a store has any information on when phone updates are coming out. ;-)
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I'm going with this.
Most of them barely even know about what they're trying to sell.
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I'm going with this.
Most of them barely even know about what they're trying to sell.
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I agree. Those reps don't even know what devices they're getting. I *****ed after I got my infuse because I asked if anything new was coming out in the near future and they said no...a month later here comes the gs2 and the sky rocket not long after the gs2. They have no idea.
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I work for att corporate and they do not tell is the store when a update is coming and if by slim chance they do send something down the pipe it is within a couple days of the update and we are not bros with HTC we have way more Samsung smart phones than HTC
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I work for att corporate and they do not tell is the store when a update is coming and if by slim chance they do send something down the pipe it is within a couple days of the update and we are not bros with HTC we have way more Samsung smart phones than HTC
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That just means Samsung makes more smartphones than anyone else. Samsung also has the highest percentage of smartphones on T-mobile and Sprint as well.
AT&T exclusivity deals with HTC go way back:
Tilt = Kaiser
Inspire = Desire HD
Titan(II) = same
One X = same
Not to mention, HTC was the first to have a 4G(HSPA+) device and one of the first to have a 4G(LTE) device on AT&T. And in a couple weeks, they will have the only 2 devices running ICS (except for the Nexus S which AT&T doesn't carry or market*).
*EDIT: It seems the AT&T version still has not received it's ICS update though it can be done manually
I'm not saying AT&T and Samsung don't have a good business relationship, obviously they do, but I feel AT&T panders to HTC much more. So far, AT&T has only been able to land the Note as an exclusive deal, but maybe there will be more, who knows.
(Niche devices aside, which by the way, some could argue that the Note is a niche device)
Anyway, back to the topic, I feel the ICS update for the GNote will probably not come around until late summer. Samsung only committed to Q2 for the International versions. I think everyone can agree that US carriers usually drag their feet on updates so they can play the "marketing" game.
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Samsung has published a list detailing which carrier variants of its phones and tablets will be blessed with Android Ice Cream Sandwich. While Sprint's Nexus S 4G is already enjoying the latest Android OS, the update will also arrive on the Now Network's Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch. From Verizon, both the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and Galaxy Tab 7.7 will get the upgrade, accompanied by the WiFi variants of the Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus and the Galaxy Tab 8.9.
On AT&T, ICS is confirmed for its Galaxy S II, the Galaxy S II Skyrocket, Galaxy Note, Captivate Glide, Nexus S and Galaxy Tab 8.9. T-Mobile customers, however, lack a similarly breathless list of upgradable hardware, instead Samsung says it will aim to upgrade "eligible devices" in the coming months and will "provide updates as we have additional details to share." Which all sounds like those updates aren't coming to Big Magenta any time soon. Samsung vows to update the list with more details as they arrive, which is available at the source below.
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Gizmodo confirms
Samsung has published a list detailing which carrier variants of its phones and tablets will be blessed with Android Ice Cream Sandwich. While Sprint's Nexus S 4G is already enjoying the latest Android OS, the update will also arrive on the Now Network's Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch. From Verizon, both the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and Galaxy Tab 7.7 will get the upgrade, accompanied by the WiFi variants of the Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus and the Galaxy Tab 8.9.
On AT&T, ICS is confirmed for its Galaxy S II, the Galaxy S II Skyrocket, Galaxy Note, Captivate Glide, Nexus S and Galaxy Tab 8.9. T-Mobile customers, however, lack a similarly breathless list of upgradable hardware, instead Samsung says it will aim to upgrade "eligible devices" in the coming months and will "provide updates as we have additional details to share." Which all sounds like those updates aren't coming to Big Magenta any time soon. Samsung vows to update the list with more details as they arrive, which is available at the source below.
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Not really confirmation of a release date, just confirmation of the devices. However things are looking good for a release date "soon"
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That just means Samsung makes more smartphones than anyone else. Samsung also has the highest percentage of smartphones on T-mobile and Sprint as well.
AT&T exclusivity deals with HTC go way back:
Tilt = Kaiser
Inspire = Desire HD
Titan(II) = same
One X = same
Not to mention, HTC was the first to have a 4G(HSPA+) device and one of the first to have a 4G(LTE) device on AT&T. And in a couple weeks, they will have the only 2 devices running ICS (except for the Nexus S which AT&T doesn't carry or market*).
*EDIT: It seems the AT&T version still has not received it's ICS update though it can be done manually
I'm not saying AT&T and Samsung don't have a good business relationship, obviously they do, but I feel AT&T panders to HTC much more. So far, AT&T has only been able to land the Note as an exclusive deal, but maybe there will be more, who knows.
(Niche devices aside, which by the way, some could argue that the Note is a niche device)
Anyway, back to the topic, I feel the ICS update for the GNote will probably not come around until late summer. Samsung only committed to Q2 for the International versions. I think everyone can agree that US carriers usually drag their feet on updates so they can play the "marketing" game.
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The skyrocket is only on att as well as captivate glide and the rugby smart what HTC phone is only on att
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The skyrocket is only on att as well as captivate glide and the rugby smart what HTC phone is only on att
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The Skyrocket is essentially a GS2 device with LTE and a bigger screen. T-mobile and Sprint pretty much already had the same thing. And to be honest, the Infuse and OG GS2 (AT&T variant) were just "marketing" stepping stones to stay in the game and should have probably never been released. How many people suffered "buyer's remorse" because of those two devices? Answer: Plenty.
The Glide and Rugby Smart (and Double Time) are niche devices. I'm talking about flagship devices, like the Tilt was and the Inspire could have been if released sooner. The Titan(II) and One X are flagship devices that AT&T has managed to get exclusivity deals (even if for a short time).
And let's not bring in other countries/carriers like Bell or Rogers because AT&T is in the US market and that's what I'm speaking of, US carriers.
And let's not forget the Samsung Focus(S), which were essentially flagship devices for WP from Samsung and AT&T hardly did any marketing for either one even though they were superior to the likes of the HTC Surround, which AT&T did a ton of marketing for.
I bought the phone at the beginning of this month at Best Buy. The salesman told me that the phone would have the ICS upgrade in Q2 and said that you could go to the Samsung website and find that info. (I realize the annoucement on Sammies site was for the Euro version) If they push that date back is that grounds for a return/exchange (because it is being used as a selling point)? I doubt that I would, but if they are on the hook for that then it may be more of an indication that the release will come out as promised. Companies are all about minimizing liability. Don't know if it helps but it's something to consider.
Highly unlikely, sales people can pretty much say anything they want. You would probably have to have them put it into writing within the contract before signing it. Even then I'm sure there's some disclaimer that relieves them of any responsibility in that case.
Unless the public can somehow manage to create a mass exodus of customers from one carrier there will be no changes in the way they do business. All we can really do to avoid disappointment is when purchasing a phone, ask yourself, "Can I use this phone as is for my entire contract?" without any expectation of updates. Or, find a phone that already has a good development community behind it.
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I bought the phone at the beginning of this month at Best Buy. The salesman told me that the phone would have the ICS upgrade in Q2 and said that you could go to the Samsung website and find that info. (I realize the annoucement on Sammies site was for the Euro version) If they push that date back is that grounds for a return/exchange (because it is being used as a selling point)? I doubt that I would, but if they are on the hook for that then it may be more of an indication that the release will come out as promised. Companies are all about minimizing liability. Don't know if it helps but it's something to consider.
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I just read on Engadget that Samsung has finally heard about ICS and after months of deliberation finally decided to tell people that, yes indeed Samsung has heard about it, and that some day in the (perhaps distant) future they will give a timetable as to when they will think about it some more: subject to further change (of course).
This is all very encouraging. When (or if) they do release it, I can always get the Note back from the museum I donated it to (assuming of course the world still exists.
ANYONE that believes something an in store rep is telling them, in regard to updates, is just a store rep trying to sell you something. The only time I believe
that an update is coming, is when I see others getting it or my phone say "update available".
I don't believe carriers or manufacturers about updates anymore. I had a Nexus S on AT&T, which I bought because of the promise of being among the first to get the latest updates, straight from Google. It finally just got an ICS update very recently, months after ICS came out. Very disappointing. Now I'm making my phone decisions based on how much is available from the development community.
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I'm in the USA on AT&T. Where should I pre-order from? I had a pre-order in with Negri Online - but they raised their price to $795 today -- I was okay with $660 (with a coupon) but an increase of over $100 -- when nobody else is close to that price is insane.
Suggestions?
I've looked at Clove, MobileCityOnline, and HandTec. Am I missing anyone? Anyone worth a few extra bucks?
im in the same boat as you. These prices are insane. If I cant get one for 650 or less I might just wait for att and get on contract.
I doubt you'll find it for less than $725...
You can get the i9000 on Amazon, so I don't see why you won't be score to get the SGS2 there at some point also.
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I doubt you'll find it for less than $725...
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Its a kick ass phone and I will have one eventually but besides hardcore SG2 fans theres no way that many are gonna sell at that price.
I could be wrong but its nuts.
Lets just say I sold my atrix for 400 I would still have to shell out over 300. wowee
I think its worth the price but its just too steep for me right now
Or you could wait until AT&T or T-Mobile launch it there.
Luckily I am in India during the Launch here and will pick it up here and hopefully not a stripped down version from there.
i'll like to pre-order for the Tmobile USA version
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i'll like to pre-order for the Tmobile USA version
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Same here!
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Or you could wait until AT&T or T-Mobile launch it there.
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Ew.
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Im waiting for the Verizon release as my contract is up in around 2 weeks.
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Ew.
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Care to elaborate Mr. AT&T (no unlimited data, no free tethering, most dropped calls)?
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Care to elaborate Mr. AT&T (no unlimited data, no free tethering, most dropped calls)?
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I have a galaxy s i9000 and I have unlimited data and tethering for $10 a month on AT&T.
I got my 8gb i9000 on ebay for $550 brand new. This was back in August of 2010. I'm sure you can find a GSII for $600 on ebay once they are released.
piggy backing on the USA thread, hope the OP does not mind
AT&T still has to release Samsung Infuse, there is no date even for that. They usually announce release dates 2 weeks in advance - is this correct? So Infuse is hitting the market closer to end of April or even later.
Then they would release SGS2 within 2 months or at the latest mid July, a year anniversary of SGS1? What sense does it make for AT&T to have two confusingly similar (to J6p) phones released so close to each other? Why would they infuse stock with the Infuse and make it difficult to captivate shelf space for the Captivate 2 a month or two later?
I am writing all this because I am suspecting Infuse would become SGS2, OR SGS2 will be pushed back to end of summer. Possible?
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piggy backing on the USA thread, hope the OP does not mind
AT&T still has to release Samsung Infuse, there is no date even for that. They usually announce release dates 2 weeks in advance - is this correct? So Infuse is hitting the market closer to end of April or even later.
Then they would release SGS2 within 2 months or at the latest mid July, a year anniversary of SGS1? What sense does it make for AT&T to have two confusingly similar (to J6p) phones released so close to each other? Why would they infuse stock with the Infuse and make it difficult to captivate shelf space for the Captivate 2 a month or two later?
I am writing all this because I am suspecting Infuse would become SGS2, OR SGS2 will be pushed back to end of summer. Possible?
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I've been thinking along similar lines. I really dont know what purpose the Infuse would serve for them if they also have the SGS2.
I've been wondering if the Infuse 4G is actually AT&T's version of the Galaxy S II. Why else would they be so coy about not letting anyone touch it or interact with it at CES...then keep it behind glass under lock and key at CTIA.
Having said that -- I don't want AT&T's gimped version of the GSII, unless the price is REALLY right!
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If it is at&t's version of the sgs2 it needs to come with some upgrades to what it's listed as now (processor, gingerbread). I don't really care about NFC though.
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I've been wondering if the Infuse 4G is actually AT&T's version of the Galaxy S II. Why else would they be so coy about not letting anyone touch it or interact with it at CES...then keep it behind glass under lock and key at CTIA.
Having said that -- I don't want AT&T's gimped version of the GSII, unless the price is REALLY right!
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It very well could be although I doubt they will deviate away from the 4.3 in Screen.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i997_infuse_4g-3705.php
the Infuse is a single core A8 1.2 Ghz processor while we know that the SGS II will have a dual core. That is what the BIG-BANG from Samsung was all about... The screen and the processor.
The infuse to me seems just a likely indication that it will be a while before you see SGSII released on AT&T. Same situation with Verizon and the Droid Charge due out any day now. Even if they do not localize versions of the SGSII like they did with SGS (And God I hope they don't, those alterations largely were just annoying), release across carriers won't be simultaneous.
So does that mean we can guess what order they will hit based on recent releases or lack thereof? If using that logic, Sprint-->T-mobile--> Verizon/AT&T
Sad for me as I'm on Verizon and want to get a 4G phone before unlimited dies...it's not looking likely I'll be able to wait for SGSII
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Care to elaborate Mr. AT&T (no unlimited data, no free tethering, most dropped calls)?
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I have free tethering and have never dropped a call.
I meant that carrier-branded, delayed-update, feature-deprived, bloat-filled devices are not something I'd endorse.
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is t-mobile getting the sgs2?
i didn't think SGS2 had AWS support, doesn't tmobile run on 1700/2100 3g?
I talked to a Samsung employee that had an S3 and told me they are supposed to release it June 22nd. But we will see.
Here's me not holding my breath.
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That'd be nice, but for some reason i'm not feeling too optimistic about it.
all these ICS post without any proof are starting to get annoying. There is alerady tons of threads with people making claims they talked to someone at samsung, a rep, a secretary, anyone, and they have all been false. Dont get me wront i would love ICS to finally be released, but only because the kernal will be released soon after. im happy with UCLE3 right now. Also ICS getting pushed would have more to do with AT&T then samsung.
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I talked to a Samsung employee that had an S3 and told me they are supposed to release it June 22nd. But we will see.
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I talked to a rep and they said June 21
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Updates get released when they are ready. This is not the launching of a new OS or IOS when they say what date it will be available so people know. Updates are not set on till a certain date then released, they are released when they are ready and its that simple. They can give estimates on the month of release based on bug fixes and how stable the rom is based on testing but I promise NO CARRIER or SAMSUNG (HTC MOTOROLA APPLE ETC) will ever sit on a finished update PERIOD! Its bad for business to sit on an update, but I know updates are slow but these companies didn't come this far by being stupid and not giving the majority of their customers what they want. They may be slow at giving it to us but they still deliver in the end. Nobody, I repeat nobody except AT&T and the people making the software update can tell anyone when the update will be released and the way they tell you is by pushing a notification to your unrooted stock Gingerbread Galaxy Note. Like the man above said these threads about releasing the update are getting outta control especially when they keep getting posted by people that obviously have no clue how the update process goes, when they know, we know, and that's exactly how it works. Do people really think these multi BILLION $$$$ companies carry on like teenagers and keep secrets and gossip about something as meaningless as an ICS update? The 22nd isn't even a Sunday LOL (people in the know, know what this means). OH I forgot, how does having an S3 make this Samsung employee qualified to know when updates will be released? Was he working at the AT&T booth in the mall or the local AT&T store? Most of these guys/girls cannot even handle a problem without calling the real AT&T for help so trust me the guy you talked to knows nothing.
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I talked to a rep and they said June 21
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My rep said on the 24th. Now who are we going to believe.
I talked to Santa and he said Dec 25th
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Just root and flash already. After that you won't have to wait for this nonsense anymore.
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I talked to Santa and he said Dec 25th
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Santa lies...he probably owns an iPhone. But the Easter Bunny said the official ICS is gonna hatch by end of June.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
-iOS = inspiring Outdated Software
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I talked to a Samsung employee that had an S3 and told me they are supposed to release it June 22nd. But we will see.
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whats the significance of him having a S3, pertaining to a Note release?
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I talked to Santa and he said Dec 25th
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Hilarious lol
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I talked to a rep and told him I wanted an official ICS phone by June 22nd. He asked if I wanted a S3.
I'll believe the release date rumors, the day it is actually released. Been hearing new dates every week.
TELUS: JULY 13
TELUS is very consistant at communicating the “expected in market date” of when various devices will receive an OS update. Right on track is a refresh of their “Device OS Upgrade schedule” and those with the Samsung Galaxy Note, BlackBerry Bold 9790, Nokia Lumia 800, and LG Optimus 7 can be excited as your devices will be graced with a new OS soon:
Android:
HTC Desire HD OS 4.0 “Expected in market date” is July 25th
LG Optimus LTE OS 4.0 “Expected in market date” is Mid July
Samsung Galaxy Note OS 4.0 “Expected in market date” is July 13th
Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 OS 4.0 “Expected in market date” is Late July
Samsung Galaxy Tab 8.9 OS 4.0 “Expected in market date” is August (was previously Late July)
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ok ill explain myself. haha
so i work for att and last week they had Samsung come in and show us some features of the note and how to sell them better. The rep from samsung had a galaxy note with the official ATT ICS update on it already. He told me it was coming around the time the s3 is going to be relased. But who knows its seems ligit because he does work for samsung.
I talked to the CEO just now and he said it is already late tonight. He will do it tomorrow morning
I just called the president, he's sending me the official download link now.
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Updates get released when they are ready. This is not the launching of a new OS or IOS when they say what date it will be available so people know. Updates are not set on till a certain date then released, they are released when they are ready and its that simple. They can give estimates on the month of release based on bug fixes and how stable the rom is based on testing but I promise NO CARRIER or SAMSUNG (HTC MOTOROLA APPLE ETC) will ever sit on a finished update PERIOD! Its bad for business to sit on an update, but I know updates are slow but these companies didn't come this far by being stupid and not giving the majority of their customers what they want. They may be slow at giving it to us but they still deliver in the end. Nobody, I repeat nobody except AT&T and the people making the software update can tell anyone when the update will be released and the way they tell you is by pushing a notification to your unrooted stock Gingerbread Galaxy Note. Like the man above said these threads about releasing the update are getting outta control especially when they keep getting posted by people that obviously have no clue how the update process goes, when they know, we know, and that's exactly how it works. Do people really think these multi BILLION $$$$ companies carry on like teenagers and keep secrets and gossip about something as meaningless as an ICS update? The 22nd isn't even a Sunday LOL (people in the know, know what this means). OH I forgot, how does having an S3 make this Samsung employee qualified to know when updates will be released? Was he working at the AT&T booth in the mall or the local AT&T store? Most of these guys/girls cannot even handle a problem without calling the real AT&T for help so trust me the guy you talked to knows nothing.
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I hate to pull a 'well actually', but Im going to do so.
Carriers are well known for sitting on updates even tho they are ready. There are a number of reasons for doing so, marketing being a big reason. By controlling WHEN a release is pushed, they can market other phone models or actually advertise big OS updates, often times making the carrier sound like THEY actually did all the hard work and their customers should appreciate the OS update as a good deed by the carrier.
Anyone remember the Samsung Captivate? Gingerbread? How long did it take to come to the Captivate 'officially'? The rumour, although no one for sure can say, is that AT&T sat on this update and decided never to release it. Samsung then decided to take it upon themselves and provide the update via Kies Mini (PC software with the SOLE purpose of updating firmware via your PC rather than the carrier delivering said update). It was shortly after this that AT&T began making the update available over the air, after Samsung forced their hand. Likely, all of this was to push Captivate users to buy a newer model phone with LTE (which means higher priced data plans).
AT&T typically pushes firmware updates and new phone releases, both on Sundays. Dont ask me why, I just know that is what they 'usually' do. However, to give the benefit of the doubt, maybe they are planning something different.
Anyone remember the Lumia 900 (flagship Windows Phone 7 made by Nokia)? This was announced as officially coming out on Easter Sunday (Easter in the states) but since AT&T wasnt actually open, they had to sell it on Monday. Someone at AT&T forgot to look at a calendar.
The S3 is supposed to be available at AT&T June 18th according to this article (end of the second to last paragraph in the first section). This article was written today.
The Galaxy S3 was intended to be released at the end of June along with its competitors AT&T, which will get the new phone on June 18, and Sprint, which has a release date of June 21.
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Read the entire paragraph, for the context of the use of the word 'intended'.
Now, the 18th falls on a Monday which has me scratching my head because everything being reported is simply not the way AT&T usually does things. Even more funny is, no one seems to actually KNOW when the S3 will be available and if the ICS update is supposed to coincide with the release of the S3 (again, quite frankly, I dont know why AT&T would care, they are both not really related to each other), and no one knows when the S3 will be available for AT&T customers, how can anyone determine the release of this firmware?
So, my opinion? We are looking at either June 17th (tomorrow) or June 24th if Samsung and AT&T keep their promise of Q2. BUT, I have heard that ICS was delayed for all carriers because Samsung is fixing a kernel bug, code that exists in ALL variants of the Note that caused hard bricks when flashing roms on variants containing the quadcore processors found in the international Note. I know the way I said that was likely confusing so let me clarify. The kernel code exists in all variants of the Note. However, the code does NOT affect the dual core processor variants of the Note. But Samsung is fixing said code in all variants of the Note, their are a number of potential reasons why that I wont go into here. This bug was fixed back at the end of May but this ate into the carrier testing period so it was delayed. I could totally be wrong here but Im guessing July 1rst, which would be close enough to Q2 that I doubt anyone could really ***** about it not being in Q2.
One other comment...
An official ICS update means source code!. Many of us are waiting for an official update not specifically so we can flash it but so that we can begin to see some real rom development start happening beyond themes and generic tweaks. Not that I dont appreciate the work that has already been done but I am really curious as to what the Note is 'really' capable of.
My rep told me the 20th.
My rep knows more then your rep.
Between the schedule posted on their website still showing the same old news and their $100 offer, I don't believe they have any intention of upgrading the Atrix or the Photon. The Atrix is now two generations old and the Photon also has a successor, so I don't think they have any incentive to upgrade them; too much time has gone by.
I believe that is the reason why they even mentioned the $100 offer. It means they already have a plan in place. They want people to upgrade and not keep their current devices.
I understand the business policy but as a customer, the policy doesn't appeal to me; it just screws us as customers. My contract is up in December and come January, I will upgrade. Just not with Motorola.
In any case, the Note II is very tempting to me. Moto doesn't have anything in that size on Sprint, so there's no competition. But if Motorola did have something to go up against the Note, I would not choose Motorola again. It would take an outstanding phone (at the right time) to get me to choose Moto again.
Hence, I have given up hope that Moto will one day upgrade our phones to ICS/JB.
Anything else from now on will be a pleasant surprise.
There....I have made my peace, Motorola.
My theory is, if they update the Atrix, they'll update the Photon. If they don't update the Atrix, they won't update the photon. So if a soak or whatever doesn't start in the next two weeks, then give up hope. But as of now, Motorola hasn't broken their word. Also you could maybe have put this in a already existing ICS debate thread. God knows we have enough of these new threads and come October we might be seeing a whole lot more of em :/
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My theory is, if they update the Atrix, they'll update the Photon. If they don't update the Atrix, they won't update the photon. So if a soak or whatever doesn't start in the next two weeks, then give up hope. But as of now, Motorola hasn't broken their word. Also you could maybe have put this in a already existing ICS debate thread. God knows we have enough of these new threads and come October we might be seeing a whole lot more of em :/
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^ THIS
I have too say it will be a sad time for all of us if ICS doesn't cone to photon. Ifbao the most,if not all of us will take the upgrade. I for one really want the note 2 but wouldn't trade in my photon unless I absolutely had too.
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There might also be a slim glimmer of hope that they skip the ICS upgrade and go straight to JB. These phones are more than capable of running JB and the jump from Gingerbread to ICS is a much larger jump than ICS to JB. So only time will tell. There are various posts saying that all 2011 phones that will be upgraded to JB will have it before the year is up. So its all rumors and speculation at this time but hey, one can be optimistic right?
I will add this - at least Motorola has the excuse of being a money-losing company that had the distraction of being acquired by Google over the last year. And they are at least offering a mea culpa and promising to update all phones released since 2011 that will handle JB or give customers $100 toward a new phone. Samsung made $4 billion dollars and has still not updated the Galaxy S2 to ICS and in my mind they have no excuse. It doesn't have merit as far as I am concerned for these companies to simply say "we have to concentrate on development for new phones and can't spend resources on older models" because, first of all, we are stuck in two year contracts, not by choice but because that's the business model we're stuck with (I know pre-paid is getting better but is not quite there yet for my needs). Secondly, if they drop support the second we buy their products what reason do we have for purchasing another phone from them when our 20 months are up and we're ready to upgrade? The business case is there for manufacturers to support older models for much longer than three months especially if the carriers are so entrenched with their beloved two year contracts. A year old phone is not ancient. The Photon has a dual core processor, etc. and is just handicapped by GB. I will also add this: Apple supports phones for years with iOS updates, they bypass the carriers on the updates and they simply pare down the features that the older phones don't support. I had an old iPhone 3G and I remember how much iOS 4 slowed it down when it was first released. To Apple's credit they could have simply said it couldn't handle iOS 4 and dropped support for it but they didn't. And no phone manufacturer is more profitable than Apple. So, yes, I, too am disgusted at how long it has taken to get ICS or JB on my Photon but I am even more disgusted with Samsung who clearly have the resources to keep their phones up to date and do not.
I would also like to know why the GS2 is still being sold in spite of the fact it's a WiMax device but the Photon was pulled prematurely because Sprint was phasing out WiMax devices. AT&T has gotten the Atrix HD, Verizon of course gets the latest and greatest from Motorola and all Sprint gets is a throwback to keyboard slider phones with qHD resolution. Sprint and Motorola don't seem to get along very well.
I'm done with Motorola even if we do get jelly sandwich. It just isn't right. My next phone won't be a Motorola phone.
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There might also be a slim glimmer of hope that they skip the ICS upgrade and go straight to JB. These phones are more than capable of running JB and the jump from Gingerbread to ICS is a much larger jump than ICS to JB. So only time will tell. There are various posts saying that all 2011 phones that will be upgraded to JB will have it before the year is up. So its all rumors and speculation at this time but hey, one can be optimistic right?
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No, it's obvious they are just skipping ICS & JB to provide us with Key Lime Pie
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And they are at least offering a mea culpa and promising to update all phones released since 2011 that will handle JB or give customers $100 toward a new phone.
Samsung made $4 billion dollars and has still not updated the Galaxy S2 to ICS and in my mind they have no excuse.
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First of all that is a BS offer. The $100 is towards a new upgrade and we have to turn in our phones. We can get more than that on CL. $100 is the least we can expect to get for a Photon.
Second of all, Samsung upgraded the GSII to ICS way back in March.
Its only here, in the US that the carriers f#%k it up. So blame the US carriers, not Samsung.
ICS for the GSII was available in Europe and most parts of the world a long time ago. In fact T-Mobile GSII got the update in June. And now there are reports of the GSII getting the JB update soon.
More importantly, resources are available for proper development of after-market custom ROMs for the Galaxy phones. We don't have that for the Photon/Atrix/_____ from Motorola/Nvidia.
So how is Samsung worse?
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Seriously?
All SII's are running ICS long ago and soon Jelly Bean.
And On Behalf Of my wife who has the photon, a big FU to Motorola.
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We should let Motorola know how we feel about their OS update policy, but I guess we are not too many Photon users... How about the Atrix users? Aren't they a lot of people?
You are right..... Motorola should know about this.... as they are not updatng.....n also not unlockng bootloader of...photon....
I am stuck to 2.3.5...
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Seriously?
All SII's are running ICS long ago and soon Jelly Bean.
And On Behalf Of my wife who has the photon, a big FU to Motorola.
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I don't disagree that we have every reason to be disgusted with how long we've had to wait for ICS on the Photon - I said as much. I think my point is valid, however, that Samsung is in a much better position than Motorola has been over the last 12-18 months clearly. Samsung is printing money and apparently have a much better relationship with Sprint. Great, there are leaks of ICS Roms out there for the GS2, but just as many officially released ICS or JB Roms for the Sprint (or Verizon) GS2 as there are for the Photon. Motorola has released a schedule stating they would release ICS as early as next month, same as Samsung. Do I think Sprint is to blame in all this as well? Absolutely. All the carriers are. How does Apple manage to release iOS updates without carrier approval and in a timely manner but Samsung and Motorola do not? Why does the iPhone 3GS have the latest version of iOS but the Epic 4G runs Gingerbread and always will (and Droid phones on Verizon as well)? We are fooling ourselves if we think Samsung is doing any better than the others save Apple. Custom Roms are custom roms and so are leaks. They aren't fully functioning, officially supported firmwares for our phones. So my discussion is not about what third party or ported leaks are out there. It's about the manufacturers supporting the phones through the carriers in the same environment that Apple functions in, but somehow does a better job.
I am not a Samsung basher. My wife and I just bought GS3's (she's on AT&T and OMG the speeds are fast) this past weekend because I gave up on ICS for the Photon, wanted LTE capability and didn't like the iPhone 5 still having 16GB in the base model and no SD card. I also think the screen is too small. I think it is a fantastically engineered phone with better build quality than any other phone - it just doesn't suit my needs. The Photon Q is a step backwards, I think. Who wants a clunky keyboard slider with qHD resolution? I went in with eyes open, though. I figure I'll get JB on my GS3 and any other updates after that will be gravy with no expectations on my part that it will ever get another update. In my mind my only other choice was the HTC EVO LTE and I just felt like as poorly as it was selling that I would be jumping into the same situation I had with the Photon - great phone but no support due to slow sales, etc.
I do think Google wants to make Motorola set the example for the other manufacturers and going forward I really expect Motorola to provide much more timely updates for their phones. Maybe I was snowed by the speech their new CEO gave at the RAZR HD unveiling but it felt like they had a new attitude. They have already released phones with unlockable bootloaders and developer editions and that is a major shift in philosophy for them. They do make high quality phones. If this new guy takes them in the direction I think he is then I think Motorola is going to have some really good phones going forward.
That's just my take on things and my opinion. I don't work for Apple, Motorola, Google or Samsung. I have no proprietary interest in any of this. I'm not posting this to argue or flame anyone - just joining the discussion and pointing out some things that I think are/were missed in the discussion.
I like what you wrote. But I disagree in one point. Everyone thinks how GS3 is a step forward and Photon Q and other new dual core phones, is a step backward.
GS3 is quad core, but it's a placebo. No new technology. Just the same cores made a little smaller, so there could be a place for four of them.
Photon Q is dual core with latest CortexA15 cores and the same speed (and more in some operations) as GS3, with reduced power consumption. You cannot write, it's a step backward.
But it's not phone for everyone, because of the keyboard.
I am not sure about the display, but I read, that displays with colorboost are compared to IPhone. And me personally, I would abandon whole amoled technology. I want more phones with LCD displays.
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I don't disagree that we have every reason to be disgusted with how long we've had to wait for ICS on the Photon - I said as much. I think my point is valid, however, that Samsung is in a much better position than Motorola has been over the last 12-18 months clearly. Samsung is printing money and apparently have a much better relationship with Sprint. Motorola has released a schedule stating they would release ICS as early as next month, same as Samsung. Do I think Sprint is to blame in all this as well? Absolutely. All the carriers are. How does Apple manage to release iOS updates without carrier approval and in a timely manner but Samsung and Motorola do not? Why does the iPhone 3GS have the latest version of iOS but the Epic 4G runs Gingerbread and always will (and Droid phones on Verizon as well)? We are fooling ourselves if we think Samsung is doing any better than the others save Apple.
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I believe you missed my post (at least that's what it seems to me).
Samsung's official ICS update for the GS II came out in March! Nearly half a year ago!
If Samsung can take the code, slap TW on it, test it and release it all over the world within 4 months of ICS release, what do you think is holding up the update in the US?
Its the carriers in the US who muck it up for the manufacturers.
Sprint, Sprint and solely Sprint is responsible for the updates on our phones. They make the calls and dictate terms to manufacturers.
The US mobile network companies are the reason. They have sole control over which phones are allowed to run on their network. If the manufacturers don't comply, they don't get to sell their phones on that network. Apple is the only one who has the power to command the networks to do as it wishes. No one else has that power; it took Samsung years to even get them to sell an unmodified version of its GS III flagship.
Is Samsung perfect, No. But it definitely has improved over the years.
Heck Google/Samsung update the Galaxy Nexus a while ago; but Verizon and Sprint didn't send out the updates until last week.
Whose fault is that?
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I believe you missed my post (at least that's what it seems to me).
Samsung's official ICS update for the GS II came out in March! Nearly half a year ago!
If Samsung can take the code, slap TW on it, test it and release it all over the world within 4 months of ICS release, what do you think is holding up the update in the US?
Its the carriers in the US who muck it up for the manufacturers.
Sprint, Sprint and solely Sprint is responsible for the updates on our phones. They make the calls and dictate terms to manufacturers.
The US mobile network companies are the reason. They have sole control over which phones are allowed to run on their network. If the manufacturers don't comply, they don't get to sell their phones on that network. Apple is the only one who has the power to command the networks to do as it wishes. No one else has that power; it took Samsung years to even get them to sell an unmodified version of its GS III flagship.
Is Samsung perfect, No. But it definitely has improved over the years.
Heck Google/Samsung update the Galaxy Nexus a while ago; but Verizon and Sprint didn't send out the updates until last week.
Whose fault is that?
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I saw that there was a leak for European GS2's but is there an official Sprint or Verizon firmware available anywhere? Did it bomb WiMax loading it? I think we're saying some of the same things. The carriers love their two year contracts but then make you use an outdated phone for the last 20 months of it because they don't want to release updates. Totally agreed on that. I'm a little incredulous that Sprint has sat on an update for six months but I know they like to sit on updates. I have a wifi Xoom and got ICS for it in late March (and JB a month ago) and I know Verizon just released ICS for their Xoom not that long ago so maybe Sprint has sat on it.
I don't like how locked down Motorola keeps their bootloaders (but I think that was Sanjay's thing) and slipping a fix in to the 2.3.5 update was equally $hitty.
I have a GS3 now so hopefully Samsung does keep it up to date. I'll still go back and try out my Photon if they ever get ICS released for it. I'll add one more thing and I can say this pretty confidently after spending a lot of time with both - I think Motorola has done a fantastic job with their implementation of ICS versus Samsung with their TW ICS. My wife had the Atrix HD for a week before returning it (lousy camera - everything else was nice) and I loved the OS on it. I think TW is fugly. I installed Nova and Apex launchers and settled on Nova. Disabled S Voice in favor of Google. I'm hoping they go closer to stock for JB. I got off topic but my point is that Motorola is doing some good things with their phones. They didn't bring one to Sprint soon enough for me to buy one again but in spite of all the BS we've put up with our Photons, I think they're on the right track.
It looks like the official ICS for the GS2 came out 7/12:
http://community.sprint.com/baw/com.../12/07/samsung-epic-touch-4g-software-updates
So I would say still not impressive for Sprint/Samsung (better than Moto but still 8 months after it was released).
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I don't disagree that we have every reason to be disgusted with how long we've had to wait for ICS on the Photon - I said as much. I think my point is valid, however, that Samsung is in a much better position than Motorola has been over the last 12-18 months clearly. Samsung is printing money and apparently have a much better relationship with Sprint. Great, there are leaks of ICS Roms out there for the GS2, but just as many officially released ICS or JB Roms for the Sprint (or Verizon) GS2 as there are for the Photon. Motorola has released a schedule stating they would release ICS as early as next month, same as Samsung. Do I think Sprint is to blame in all this as well? Absolutely. All the carriers are. How does Apple manage to release iOS updates without carrier approval and in a timely manner but Samsung and Motorola do not? Why does the iPhone 3GS have the latest version of iOS but the Epic 4G runs Gingerbread and always will (and Droid phones on Verizon as well)? We are fooling ourselves if we think Samsung is doing any better than the others save Apple. Custom Roms are custom roms and so are leaks. They aren't fully functioning, officially supported firmwares for our phones. So my discussion is not about what third party or ported leaks are out there. It's about the manufacturers supporting the phones through the carriers in the same environment that Apple functions in, but somehow does a better job.
I am not a Samsung basher. My wife and I just bought GS3's (she's on AT&T and OMG the speeds are fast) this past weekend because I gave up on ICS for the Photon, wanted LTE capability and didn't like the iPhone 5 still having 16GB in the base model and no SD card. I also think the screen is too small. I think it is a fantastically engineered phone with better build quality than any other phone - it just doesn't suit my needs. The Photon Q is a step backwards, I think. Who wants a clunky keyboard slider with qHD resolution? I went in with eyes open, though. I figure I'll get JB on my GS3 and any other updates after that will be gravy with no expectations on my part that it will ever get another update. In my mind my only other choice was the HTC EVO LTE and I just felt like as poorly as it was selling that I would be jumping into the same situation I had with the Photon - great phone but no support due to slow sales, etc.
I do think Google wants to make Motorola set the example for the other manufacturers and going forward I really expect Motorola to provide much more timely updates for their phones. Maybe I was snowed by the speech their new CEO gave at the RAZR HD unveiling but it felt like they had a new attitude. They have already released phones with unlockable bootloaders and developer editions and that is a major shift in philosophy for them. They do make high quality phones. If this new guy takes them in the direction I think he is then I think Motorola is going to have some really good phones going forward.
That's just my take on things and my opinion. I don't work for Apple, Motorola, Google or Samsung. I have no proprietary interest in any of this. I'm not posting this to argue or flame anyone - just joining the discussion and pointing out some things that I think are/were missed in the discussion.
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I own an Epic 4G Touch Galaxy S2 and ICS has been officially released by July 2012 current official release Build FH13 4.0.4. And Tmo and ATT variants 2 weeks earlier than the E4GT Android 4.0.3. And JB for SGSII International start roll out by end of this year Officially announced by Sammy, US variants Q1 2013. I won't hold my breath on the latter
I always had trouble with Motorola since DROID X(milestone x) then Photon and finally gave up and pass it to my wife.
I agree with you in some parts about Sammy and Moto. But you keep saying SGSII did not have official ICS yet only leaks. :what:
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I agree, we won't be getting ics... only because we'll jump straight to jelly bean gotta have hope lol
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I feel the pain with no official ICS or JB, but my last Sammy (Epic 4G) had so-so reception and would drop/loose the signal much quicker than the Photon....actually my Photon DOESN'T loose a signal. My wife's Galaxy Nexus on Verizon doesn't hold on or switch as gracefully between 3G/4G/WiFi as the Photon, the radio is still a 1/2 step or so behind the Motorola radio. Unfortunately, I need to pick signal and the ability to use my phone over the OS version, so the Samsungs are out until they come up with a radio equal to (or better) than what Morotola uses.
Seems on CDMA the customers are stuck behind the rock and a hard place. I switched from At&t to Spring a couple years ago and the number of dropped calls practically dropped to zero. (I had a Blackberry on Att, btw, so it wasn't the phone....this was in their heyday as well). I'm elligible for an upgrade, but there isn't anyting worthy of replacing my Photon. If they ever fix the 4G unlock issue, I'm so going to Joker or Th3Bill's JB build.
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I agree, we won't be getting ics... only because we'll jump straight to jelly bean gotta have hope lol
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I'm done with Motorola even if we do get jelly sandwich. It just isn't right. My next phone won't be a Motorola phone.
If we look around on the net EVERYONE is piss off. NO ICS or JB at this point they will be coming out with Key Line soon and the Atrix and Photon just got thrown under the bus.
Very piss here, and now they will be giving 100 dollars, Oh please! Did anyone saw the form a mile long to see if you qualify for the discount.
This is my last moto, period.
Just when I thought there is no way we will see a 4.1.1, an older US Samsung device gets the leak and it looks like they gave it the real touchwiz UX, instead of the garbage gingerbread-lookalike ICS upgrade.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1932146
Wow! There is hope for i717 after all?
Man I just opened the app thinking there was a leak, close to home I like. Good find.
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If they did that phone they must plan it for us but mind you Att is the real people that will let it happen so with the note 2 just around the corner who knows..
I would like to think they will update our OG Note. So customers will be happy I'll gladly tell someone to buy a note 2 or note 3 if I know they will keep it current with updates.
I know we just got ICS but the update was not as full featured as our international counterpart.. so that makes me worry a bit.
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Sprint is also getting note 2, that's why I think there is hope. Looking at the screens, it is the real deal!
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Sprint is also getting note 2, that's why I think there is hope. Looking at the screens, it is the real deal!
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Sprint doesnt have the Note1 though...
Sure they have the S2 and S3 and the S2 appears to still be getting JB, but Sprint has to tout something that could potentially retain its customers... "Our network sux, but we still have unlimited data, and we dish out updates before the other carriers!"
AT&T on the other hand has the Note 1, but would make more money off of the new phone and new contracts. I am not optimistic that they would get us JB on the Note any time soon, if ever.
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Sprint doesnt have the Note1 though...
Sure they have the S2 and S3 and the S2 appears to still be getting JB, but Sprint has to tout something that could potentially retain its customers... "Our network sux, but we still have unlimited data, and we dish out updates before the other carriers!"
AT&T on the other hand has the Note 1, but would make more money off of the new phone and new contracts. I am not optimistic that they would get us JB on the Note any time soon, if ever.
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There are people, who like me are still underwater as far as the ETF goes (even if they, unlike me, would pay their account off in order to get the next Note). It is in AT&T's interest to offer the update to current, contract locked customers if they are interested in continuing to get their business when their contract is up.
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There are people, who like me are still underwater as far as the ETF goes (even if they, unlike me, would pay their account off in order to get the next Note). It is in AT&T's interest to offer the update to current, contract locked customers if they are interested in continuing to get their business when their contract is up.
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Understood, but of AT&T's customers, how many do you think are really adept enough to care about updates and actually care about a point release upgrade?
Samsung isn't planning on releasing this phone on the big red until MAY30 WHICH is very close to June and isn't there going to be a couple phone in June around that same type with the new snapdragon 800 like that new moto phone coming out so I'm.curious wouldn't the new phone in June play the new gs4 obsolete ? Samsung gs4 release so late will make it its own demise ! why is Verizon releasing this phone so late i mean if there's a phone within the same month of the gs4 with twice the power then I won't consider the gs4 when I can wait just 2 weeks and buy somethin much more superior in hardware and stock android Samsung is about to lose a tons of money on Verizon if they wait all th way to may30 around the same month as sum very new phones with double the power .... Why didnt the gs4 release earlier ?? in may when moto announces there phone which will prob kill the gs4 in every way specs and software within 3week after the gs4 comes to store everyone will cancel there preorders and just wait and extra 3week to get the most powerful phone with a better screen n better snapdragon n prob more sensors and better battery and full stock android!
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Samsung gs4 release so late will make it its own demise ! Why didnt the gs4 release earlier ??
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That doesn't make a lot of sense. People in the U.S. typically get new phones when they become eligible so there's a steady stream of people year round looking to buy new phones no matter when they are released. People buy what pleases them. The DNA tanked on VZW and there were no other phones released before it or after it that caused its failure. And it was powerful and had the world's first 1080P display. People are still buying SGS3's in large quantities and probably will after the SGS4's out because the price will be reduced. The SGS4 will be on the market as a "flagship" for 9-12 months and Samsung's planning on selling 10MM a month. HTC, Motorola, LG, and Sony all introduced phones that competed with the SGS3 and it certainly didn't affect Samsung's sales last year. So there's no reason to expect it to this year either. And the average consumer doesn't know (or care) what a Snapdragon, Exynos, or Octa is.
Plenty of hot new phones came out after the Galaxy S3's July release in the U.S. like the Razr Maxx HD, Nexus 4, etc. yet the GS3 outsold all of them by a huge margin. The average consumer doesn't buy phones based mainly on hardware specs.
Verizon is launching it on may 23rd, not may 30th. I went to Verizon yesterday and there was a Samsung rep there showing the employees the s4 and they said the official launch date is the 23rd. I know that's still three weeks later than the rest, but at least its a week earlier than may 30th. I gotta question, is verizons s4 going to be harder to unlock and root than the rest of them? I heard Verizon likes to lock them down, and I've never owned a smartphone I've been holding out for this one. I own a nexus 7 which is obviously the easiest to unlock and root. But i know the s4 is a huge release so I'm kinda assuming that there will be a solid method to root for Verizon. Am i right?
According to official PR from Samsung today, it will be on all major US carriers by the end of April. I'm guessing April 30th.
The Galaxy S 4 is optimized for powerful performance on the nation’s fastest networks and will be available on AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile and Verizon Wireless as well as U.S. Cellular, Cricket and C Spire starting during April. Additionally, consumers can find the Galaxy S 4 at Best Buy and Best Buy Mobile, Costco, Radio Shack, Sam’s Club, Staples, Target and Wal-Mart. Exact pricing and retail availability will be announced by each of the carriers and retailers in the coming weeks.
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http://www.samsung.com/us/news/20687
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According to official PR from Samsung today, it will be on all major US carriers by the end of April. I'm guessing April 30th.
http://www.samsung.com/us/news/20687
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Available to carriers and carriers making the phone available to consumers are two different things.
And for the OP... i am not sure how new phones will make the s4 obsolete? a cpu does not a phone make....
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Available to carriers and carriers making the phone available to consumers are two different things.
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But it says available on not to... I'm staying optimistic!
It also says "starting in april" that could mean that just one or a few carriers will roll it out in April.
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I.D.K. why the O.P. is saying that the galaxy s4 would be obsolete soon i mean come on the motorla x phone right now is just a nice looking rumor plus a processor in a phone doesn't make all that difference because maybe you saw last year's htc one X+ it smoked the galaxy but the battery was really bad plus i hardly ever think android needs more power right now they need to be more battery friendly and better screen really what do you want more than 441ppi ?? anyway looking at all those gs4 specs and concediring what happened with last year's gs3 i can tell you that the galaxy won't go down till the gs5 is out so don't worry if verizon goes a few weeks later than everyone else it will still sell like hot cakes.
I still have unlimited internet after 4/21 can I buy new galaxy s4 cell using the new 12 month payment plan that's effective on 4/21 without upgrading to the 200sub? Does anyone know I think everyone who still has unlimited internet should ask Verizon this.. I wanna get the new s4 but keep my unlimited internet so will this 12month thing work for me?
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I am going to tell you right now that Verizon's phones are the worst due to the spyware they bloat them up with. I hope they do as little to it as possible and there's no way verizon is going to pay for a S800 S4. They are cheap when it comes to there phones and replacing one that has gone bad is near impossible unless you take them to the FCC. If they ever touch my unlimited, I am gone with out a hint of doubt.
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I am going to tell you right now that Verizon's phones are the worst due to the spyware they bloat them up with. I hope they do as little to it as possible and there's no way verizon is going to pay for a S800 S4. They are cheap when it comes to there phones and replacing one that has gone bad is near impossible unless you take them to the FCC. If they ever touch my unlimited, I am gone with out a hint of doubt.
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I actually find that replacing phones is very easy on verizon compared to sprint. I had sprint in the past and their customer service was atrocious. The Fascinate (Verizon Galaxy S) apparently had lots of problems, and they kept getting replaced until the Droid Charge came out, when Verizon just started giving out Charges to replace Fascinates.
The Charge had some problems too, and if you got enough bad ones from them, they even started handing out the Bionic, Rezound, and Razr too (phones that came out later with much higher specs). I even bricked my Charge and they just gave me a new one.
Verizon web page updated with Galaxy S4
Verizon web page updated today with Galaxy S4
The next big thing is coming.....late
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I'm in the HTC camp.....
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They had to post something. The basically are going to be releasing with the third world, lol. Its ALWAYS something with them. They did their best to wreck the galaxy nexus, they were in on the Carrier IQ scandal, they have to plaster their dated logo on everything, and they sell pretty much the most bloated phones in existence. Yes, they have a good network, but frankly, I live in DFW...all the carriers have good networks here. It's flat, populated and affluent.
I have an upgrade, but their delay conveniently puts me within a month of my contract ending. My wife gets a ~25% discount through work, but I can get 15% on T-Mobile, and with the massive price difference, it actually makes T-mobile a better deal. I may even pickup up a used N4, get the $30 walmart plan thing, and wait for the Note III.
I guess as someone that pays attention and is tired of getting screwed and treated like an idiot sheep, I am just not their target market.
brizey said:
They had to post something. The basically are going to be releasing with the third world, lol. Its ALWAYS something with them. They did their best to wreck the galaxy nexus, they were in on the Carrier IQ scandal, they have to plaster their dated logo on everything, and they sell pretty much the most bloated phones in existence. Yes, they have a good network, but frankly, I live in DFW...all the carriers have good networks here. It's flat, populated and affluent.
I have an upgrade, but their delay conveniently puts me within a month of my contract ending. My wife gets a ~25% discount through work, but I can get 15% on T-Mobile, and with the massive price difference, it actually makes T-mobile a better deal. I may even pickup up a used N4, get the $30 walmart plan thing, and wait for the Note III.
I guess as someone that pays attention and is tired of getting screwed and treated like an idiot sheep, I am just not their target market.
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I don't know exactly which options you're choosing, but if you do the math I suspect you'll find that T-Mobile isn't the better deal. I've been doing research recently for an upgrade myself, and I found that corporate discounts actually significantly narrow the gap between T-Mobile and Verizon. Reason is because with T-Mobile ditching subsidies but lowering the monthly bill, the value of a discount on that smaller monthly bill is proportionately less. If you factor in the fact that a full price GS4 on T-Mobile is $630 vs $200 for Verizon, Verizon might actually come out ahead over the course of 2 years.
snapple232 said:
I don't know exactly which options you're choosing, but if you do the math I suspect you'll find that T-Mobile isn't the better deal. I've been doing research recently for an upgrade myself, and I found that corporate discounts actually significantly narrow the gap between T-Mobile and Verizon. Reason is because with T-Mobile ditching subsidies but lowering the monthly bill, the value of a discount on that smaller monthly bill is proportionately less. If you factor in the fact that a full price GS4 on T-Mobile is $630 vs $200 for Verizon, Verizon might actually come out ahead over the course of 2 years.
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If he used like 1GB a month sure it would cost less, but Verizon's network has really gone down the drain in the bigger citys. May as well have sprint 3G at times it get's so bad. Now if you live in bum ville sure Verzion win's. But he live's in the city so data speeds will be better on T-moblie.
Also no unlimited data any more with verizon and those like me that still have it get throttled.
brizey said:
I have an upgrade, but their delay conveniently puts me within a month of my contract ending.
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If you're considering using an upgrade, that means you don't have unlimited, in which case my question is... why bother with VZ?
4ktvs said:
Also no unlimited data any more with verizon and those like me that still have it get throttled.
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It's not throttled. When the network isn't congested (as you say, places like NYC during the day are crap) I still get great speeds.