Ok I am not a nooby to rooting and have done it on many devices.
I will say this though I have never seen so many different ways to root one device.
So far I like the sd card root method. But any way here are my questions.
1. what is the best way to Root? Possibly the Sd card way?
2. How Do I repartition the Nook To be able to Utilize the 13Gb of space on it
3.Is there a way to sideload the Android Market (Google Play)?
4. How do you put on CWM
5. What is the most stable Rom that gets rid of bloatware and feels the most like Gingerbread. If its CM7 which version.
If you want you can just point me to Thread links. I am not afraid to read or anything. Its just that there seem to be 7 ways to everything I just asked about and its a little confusing to know which direction to go.
So any help would be appreciated. Thanks so much.
1. The SD card way definitely.
2. Easiest thing to do is take it to B&N and have them do it. You can do it yourself though with this thread.
3. If you only root, the sd card way of rooting will automatically add the play store.
4. Indirect has an app here that will allow you to flash CWM or the stock recovery (the latter option is good for if you ever need to return the device to stock conditions). Simple and easy. This app is actually included with the sdcard root method (it'll be on the sdcard after you burn the image to the sdcard). So once you are in the B&N OS with root access, you'll be able to use a file manager to find the apk for this app, install it and then flash CWM.
5. CM7 Final is the basis for the other CM7 roms. CM9 is cool too though, albeit hardware acceleration does not work yet so things like Netflix and higher end games do not work. I've also listed all current roms that are out for the nook tablet here.
It sounds like you have a decent idea of what you're doing and possibly some experience with Android so you know the drill. Read thoroughly and follow directions to the T and you will be fine. Good luck.
Cubanluke88 said:
1. The SD card way definitely.
2. Easiest thing to do is take it to B&N and have them do it. You can do it yourself though with this thread.
3. If you only root, the sd card way of rooting will automatically add the play store.
4. Indirect has an app here that will allow you to flash CWM or the stock recovery (the latter option is good for if you ever need to return the device to stock conditions). Simple and easy. This app is actually included with the sdcard root method (it'll be on the sdcard after you burn the image to the sdcard). So once you are in the B&N OS with root access, you'll be able to use a file manager to find the apk for this app, install it and then flash CWM.
5. CM7 Final is the basis for the other CM7 roms. CM9 is cool too though, albeit hardware acceleration does not work yet so things like Netflix and higher end games do not work. I've also listed all current roms that are out for the nook tablet here.
It sounds like you have a decent idea of what you're doing and possibly some experience with Android so you know the drill. Read thoroughly and follow directions to the T and you will be fine. Good luck.
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Holy cow your awesome!! Thank you soooo much. Have y'all considered stickying those threads? You guys have alot of information here. One more thing. If I am understanding you correctly your saying that if I use the sd card root method, it automatically puts on google play? That would be awesome if it does.
Again thanks a million.
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After I put on CM7 will google play still be there?
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Actually looking at the list of apps that is included with the root script, it doesn't seem the play store is listed. Regardless, its trivial to add.
And if you decide to go custom rom, its as simple as flashing gapps after you flash the rom.
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Google mandates that the play store and other google apps cannot be included with roms. However, you can fetch google apps from here and flash them after flashing an AOSP rom like CM7 or CM9. Just make sure you flash the right ones (i.e. cyanogenmod 7 package for CM7).
Cubanluke88 said:
Actually looking at the list of apps that is included with the root script, it doesn't seem the play store is listed. Regardless, its trivial to add.
And if you decide to go custom rom, its as simple as flashing gapps after you flash the rom.
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Google mandates that the play store and other google apps cannot be included with roms. However, you can fetch google apps from here and flash them after flashing an AOSP rom like CM7 or CM9. Just make sure you flash the right ones (i.e. cyanogenmod 7 package for CM7).
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Well my friend. You just made my life a ton easier. Sincerely Thank you. Now I can't wait for my Nook Tablet to get here. It will probably be on Wednesday.
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is there any pitfalls if you partition the drive where you have all 13 gigs available to you and none for the B&N section of the tablet?
I called B&N and they said if they partition it they do about half and half and will not give you access to the whole Hard Drive. Boo!!
Basically, if you opt for more "media storage" then you forfeit space for /userdata which is app install storage.
This step:
Give a value between 11.6 and 13.6 that will leave you with>> 11.6GB: 4GB for /userdata | 13.6: 2GB for /userdata
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Basically portrays the min/max potential here. If you opt for 11.6 "media" storage, then you will be left with 4GB for app installation. If you opt for the max, 13.6GB, then you will be left with 2GB app installation.
You could always redo it as well I believe.
Cubanluke88 said:
Basically, if you opt for more "media storage" then you forfeit space for /userdata which is app install storage.
This step:
Basically portrays the min/max potential here. If you opt for 11.6 "media" storage, then you will be left with 4GB for app installation. If you opt for the max, 13.6GB, then you will be left with 2GB app installation.
You could always redo it as well I believe.
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Hey brother now that I have the Nook partitoned and have CM7 what's the best way to access the 8 gigabytes for user data via the pc?
ps thank you for all of the help you gave me and for pointing me in the righ direction. You made this pretty simple
Thank you!!
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Check out this post for changes that can be made to the build.prop file: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23487384
I thought these changes were made to the rom but maybe not. If these lines in your build.prop file are different, change them to look how they're shown in this post and you should be able to mount the internal media storage and your sdcard.
Note that if you decide to try cm9, there is no support yet for mounting the internal media on a computer.
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same boat, with additional ? about list item #4
I was able to complete item#1(sd card root method), without a hitch. It looks like the only place to flash cwm (item#4) is internal mem. Is there a way to flash to an sd card, so I can choose to pull out sd and boot to stock rom if I wanted to? Thanks
...or maybe I can already boot to CWM from this sd boot, but I'm just not doing it yet(don't know how)?
barfcark said:
I was able to complete item#1(sd card root method), without a hitch. It looks like the only place to flash cwm (item#4) is internal mem. Is there a way to flash to an sd card, so I can choose to pull out sd and boot to stock rom if I wanted to? Thanks
...or maybe I can already boot to CWM from this sd boot, but I'm just not doing it yet(don't know how)?
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Sounds like you want to make a bootable CWM SD card: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1446987
I will have to check that when I get home. Is there a way to make the Icons bigger kind of like the I-pad? No I wont be using cm9. I need a fully functional Android Tablet.
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swc2001 said:
Is there a way to make the Icons bigger kind of like the I-pad?
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there is that app 'spare parts' ?
swc2001 said:
No I wont be using cm9. I need a fully functional Android Tablet.
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yes, count me as being the same way. cm7 is 'really' good for being called an alpha. a little bird tells me it never will be fixed up . . . shame . . . ( on the twelfth of never ? )
Im confused...
Edit:Made a new thread, seems i had more questions than i thought...
Just a quick question don't wanna make a new thread for this:
What i want to do is extend my media drive for my own books and videos and also id like to Root via the sd card method as mentioned in the 2nd post here.
I'm wondering in which order to do it all though.
1. should i get adb tools working first doing the first part only in this video (as instructed in this thread i think?)and then use the CWM included in the sd-card method?
Or
2. Start with the sd card method and then install adb tools and extend my media partition?
Also do i need to worry about the Tools part which is the 3rd thing you need for extending your partition, unless something goes wrong?
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Hi Guys,
Finally our tablet has been rooted, lets just list out the benefits of ROOT. My wishlist is as follows:
1. Ability to take screenshot.
2. Change fonts.
3. WhatsApp. (Success) CLICK HERE
4. Use Xperia Arc Timescape/Launcher, etc.
5. Moving game date to external SD card.
I can use AdFree t oget rid of all the stupid adds that takes cpu-power.
I can use Titanium Backup Pro and it's full power.
Root Explorer
I can get rid of stupid bloat-ware that is filling up precious storage-space.
Hopefully this can lead to maybe an unlocked bootloader to able recovery and custom-roms
To name a few things
Increase battery life with build.prop and sysctl.conf tweaks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1159495
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1151608
how to move games data to external memory card???
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Think you need to change your signiture from xperiax10.awesome
"Sony Tablet S still NOT rooted !!"
Haha, will change tomorrow..
Will also try changing Fonts, taking Screenshots & moving data to external sd card.
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i was thrilled to be able to uninstall sony's crapware with titanium. was smiling ear to ear, actually, still am..
would also like to find out how to use the ext. sd card for more than media transfer as well
gimp1045 said:
i was thrilled to be able to uninstall sony's crapware with titanium. was smiling ear to ear, actually, still am..
would also like to find out how to use the ext. sd card for more than media transfer as well
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Like to see this also.
haenraets said:
Like to see this also.
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You can do this using Root Explorer.
Navigate to; system/ create a new folder called app.old.
Then navigate to system/app and pull all of the system apps that you don't want, move them into app.old folder you just made.
By doing that they are then uninstalled, freeing up valuable space. You could always copy them to your SDCARD then onto your PC, I wouldn't delete them as they may be needed again.
I'd like to post a "Tweak you Sony Tablet S" thread at some stage with a custom homescreen theme and system tweaks.
Yep, looking forward to getting rid of all the Sony junk off it!
Root's failed for me though, been on XDA for a while, but not got my 10 posts yet to report it in the dev forum!
I think we can now look for a way to use the microUSB port as micro HDMI. I read some where that it can be done if we have root access!
gimp1045 said:
i was thrilled to be able to uninstall sony's crapware with titanium. was smiling ear to ear, actually, still am..
would also like to find out how to use the ext. sd card for more than media transfer as well
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haenraets said:
Like to see this also.
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Same here, specially the using the ext. sd card part!
I hope to see some Custom ROMs !!!!
Do note, if ICS comes behind the corner tomorrow (not that it will, but whatever), I'll prefer that above root. For all Root has to offer right now. A good custom rom might turn me over ;p
HKboy92 said:
Do note, if ICS comes behind the corner tomorrow (not that it will, but whatever), I'll prefer that above root. For all Root has to offer right now. A good custom rom might turn me over ;p
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Having root available changes the game.
If ICS OTA update removes the root (which is very likely to happen), then it will be possible to figure out manual update to ICS, which saves root rights.
I've seen it happenning on HTC View, where expoit was only available for GB, and then there was a way to update to HC and still have root rights. Not thru OTA though.
NNe00 said:
Same here, specially the using the ext. sd card part!
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will link2SD work? Going to try it now if I dont fall asleep
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ps3taker said:
will link2SD work? Going to try it now if I dont fall asleep
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link2sd shows internal/external built in memories and does not look at the physical sd card - so I could not make it work. maybe someone will do an extra script to mount physical sd instead of built-in one and not as sdcard2 - I saw a post about it for rooted tranformer or similar honecomb but cannot find it again yet - good night
kvssvarma said:
I hope to see some Custom ROMs !!!!
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can y'all please do some research......
ROOT IS NOT UNLOCKING BOOTLOADER
TO INSTALL CUSTOM ROM / CUSTOM RECOVERY NEEDS UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER
Yes root is great and it probably helps but its a separate issue to getting custom roms
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so with this root, can i store games on the external SD card and play it off the external SD card?
Allright, so we got root now! I really enjoy it, since I had struggles with some bloody sony software...
But! What would make me really happy is an unlocked boot loader... So maybe someone who can post in the devs section can copy my post! But I'd like to pledge 15 dollar for the one who can unlock the boot loader
Maybe this is the way to speed things up, and we can run custom roms! So we don't need sony's ICS update. And we won't lose root when it is coming
Greetz!
So I used to have a rooted nook using the DeanGibson method. I learned a lot but it was a lot of hours which I don't really have right now. 1.4.2 removed root & market access so it looks like it's back to square one.
Looking at the options it looks like the albertwertz methods are the quickest, but the problem is now he's got 2 (the original from January and now the R3 method). I can't easily discern the difference between the 2, and since I'm a newbie I can't post in the dev thread to ask. Here are my questions:
1) Can anyone tell me briefly what the difference between the methods is?
2) Has anyone tried both, and if so which is preferable?
3) What is the smallest SD card to use? Looks like 2G is plenty but nowhere is the requirement spelled out.
Thanks xda community for your help!
**Update: I have been all over this forum for the past 3 months and don't know how I missed it; though I had seen all the methods, but was not familiar with the Brian21 SD card method. I gave it a shot since it indicated that I might not have to start from scratch. SUCCESS!!! This worked great, was very fast & simple, kept most of my apps (if not all the settings). Thanx whale2 & brian21.
What about Brianf21 method of rooting?
Kirk_the_jerk said:
So I used to have a rooted nook using the DeanGibson method. I learned a lot but it was a lot of hours which I don't really have right now. 1.4.2 removed root & market access so it looks like it's back to square one.
Looking at the options it looks like the albertwertz methods are the quickest, but
Thanks xda community for your help!
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What about Brian's method? I am a noob too and do not know what would be best for you.
I also lack the ten posts to post on the Dev thread. I am wondering if a totally micro SD based CM7 will be available soon or perhaps is available now? I do not wish to purchase a card from guys like n2a and have a card with software not upgraded fairly often. It was nice having the "nightlies" for my Nook Color.
Are we a the place when the CM7 can be put on a card and kept on the card. When the card is out the Nook Tablet would revert to a stock Nook Tablet? I like so many of the stock attributes that I would like both CM7 and Stock.
Any help would be appreciated.
Brian's Thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1488035
Kirk_the_jerk said:
I can't post in the dev thread to ask
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You shouldn't do this. Ever. Use Q&A like you did. Don't clutter dev section with questions like this.
1) Can anyone tell me briefly what the difference between the methods is?
2) Has anyone tried both, and if so which is preferable?
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I haven't really looked into the R3 method too much but I'm pretty sure that is an all-in-one root access, recovery, and custom rom card that it makes.
The other method is much simpler. All it does is allow you to boot into a custom recovery and push a zip file that then roots the device.
3) What is the smallest SD card to use? Looks like 2G is plenty but nowhere is the requirement spelled out.
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1GB would actually suffice for the second method I discussed as the partition it needs is very small. Use a 2GB just in case.
Here is how I would suggest to do it:
Use the recovery sd method. When you are done, you will have root access. From here, you can boot back into the B&N OS and call it a day.
From here, if you want to play with CM7, you could reformat the card you made and instead make a card that boots into CM7 (look for the thread in development).
I highly suggest that, after rooting, you use Indirect's app to flash an internal recovery, regardless of what you decide to do.
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whale2 said:
I also lack the ten posts to post on the Dev thread.
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Good, because this isn't something you should ask there anyway. Always use Q&A. Someone will help you.
I am wondering if a totally micro SD based CM7 will be available soon or perhaps is available now?
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Good god do you people just browse the forums with your eyes closed? It literally says it in the title.
Which totally micro SD based CM7 method do you recommend?
I would like my Nook Tab to remain stock, especially since B&N plans to repartition all the Stock Tabs after March 12.
As I only recently purchased the Nook Tablet 16gb with version 1.4.2. There is overflow of information in these forums that has confused me and need some direction. I would like to know if the first thing I should do is to Root it and disable the OTA updates? (eventually I will want to install a stable version of CM9 ICS)
If so, which method is the best to do this? Does rooting happen internally on the NT or do I have to have something set on the SD all the time?
What other abilities will this give me?
Is there a huge benefit to rolling back to 1.4.0 (is it even possible?)?
Guidance will be much appreciated. Thanks !
If you use B&N services/apps then i would stick with stock but 1.4.0 as is the best, no limitations about sideloading which is a must have.
If not still stock is ok i like the eye candy, but if you go for complete access to google play (android market) access then i would go for MIUI, CM7 or CM9.
And better way learn from them is to try them all. My fav is MIUI i love the interface is similar to stock actually in the way of the settings, menus, buttons.
~ Veronica
Thanks for the response Veronica.
Are you saying that if I just want to stay at a rooted state with stock B&N then I should downgrade to 1.4.0 and then root?
Also, are you recommending that if not using any B&N serviced, which I'm not using any B&N services, then I should Downgrade to 1.4.0, root and then load MIUI (or other Rom)?
I would like to take some baby steps and try to really learn as I go along. For instance I've seen CMW being mentioned many times and I haven't been able to find how exactly I install it on the NT. Also ADB for 'pushing' installs onto the NT and I haven't been able find guide for it. Do I need to use both CWM and ADB or ADB first to install CWM and then use CWM to install. And how do these fit with the Rooting processes and is all this done on the microSD card or internally on the NT? I'm just so confused in EXACTLY where does one start.
I installed ICS on the HP Touchpad and that was soooooo easy compared to what I'm finding with the NT.
Thanks again.
jbl0ggs said:
Thanks for the response Veronica.
Are you saying that if I just want to stay at a rooted state with stock B&N then I should downgrade to 1.4.0 and then root?
Also, are you recommending that if not using any B&N serviced, which I'm not using any B&N services, then I should Downgrade to 1.4.0, root and then load MIUI (or other Rom)?
I would like to take some baby steps and try to really learn as I go along. For instance I've seen CMW being mentioned many times and I haven't been able to find how exactly I install it on the NT. Also ADB for 'pushing' installs onto the NT and I haven't been able find guide for it. Do I need to use both CWM and ADB or ADB first to install CWM and then use CWM to install. And how do these fit with the Rooting processes and is all this done on the microSD card or internally on the NT? I'm just so confused in EXACTLY where does one start.
I installed ICS on the HP Touchpad and that was soooooo easy compared to what I'm finding with the NT.
Thanks again.
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Oh you really don't know where to start, i know with all what we have going right now it can be very confusing BUT for your luck @AlbertWertz have made so many videos explaining step by step of almost everything the rooting part eather internally by using adb and external by using an sdcard.
The main idea is ok i have a 16GB NT with stock 1.4.2 i like and use B&N apps i was to stick with stock but i wan't be able to use the most features as possible and not figure it out and troubleshoot so many things in the way then for those people i recommend stock 1.4.0 simple than that.
Albert and I have posted modified, rooted stock 1.4.0 ROM's so you simply get into CWM and flash them, period.
But If you are the kind of person and also want to learn how to do it from scratch and modify to your taste then use one of the so many methods posted in development section to root: there are 2 options root by using adb and root by using a bootable sdcard.
Brief history of the creation of the sdcard method: many users were having issues setting up adb and making drivers for nook tablet get recognized by windows so they were not able to root so it is why sdcard method was released. and as users were having issues setting up sdcard aswell was created the "burn this image to your sdcard with win32diskimager", method which still some users have issues and i remember have read of one user that after user that bricked his device using the last method mentioned... Oh well there is always risk!!!
PROS OF SDCARD METHOD: no use of PC
CONS OF SDCARD METHOD: you still have to setup your sdcard, format it with fat32 file system and set first partition to Active or LBA: boot (linux) and if that does work then burn the root image using to your sdcard win32diskimager.
...Wot you thought was going to be that easy? nah...
By the other hand if you are the kind of user that don't use (maybe hate) B&N service/apps then good news you have 3 options to pick from: CM7, CM9 and MIUI.
Now if you want to go straight to one of the ROM's mentioned (CM7, CM9 or MIUI) then you simply can prepare a sdcard to boot ClockworkMod (CWM) from it . For that please check here -METHOD #1 and here to know how to set it up!.
Once you re able to boot into CWM from sdcard you can now go ahead and download the ROM of your preference, copy it to your internal sdcard (MyNOOK) and flash it in CWM >> Install .zip from sdcard >> choose .zip from internal sdcard >> pick the copied .zip package and flash it, reboot device and VOILA!
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PS: the link to Albert's video tutorials and to my How-to's/tutorials and videotutorials please read my FAQ, is located in general section and the link has been in my signature for long time now. See below (signature).
Alberts videos are in post #2 of my FAQ. Check his channel (link there) for more videos.
There you will find my tutorial for install and use ADB, and as i say San google is your friend you can find anything refering to the nook tablet if you google like this:
"adb tool" nook tablet,xda
"root" nook tablet,xda
"sdcard root" nook tablet, xda ... etc.
~ Veronica
Veronica
I have two nt one with rooted 1.40 and the second is stock 1.42 with B&N repartion. I am concerned that I might have problems with Installing CM7 because of the B&N 1.42 partions. Shoudd I create a sd with CWM and CM7 I don't use B&N at all.
All the Best
jbl0ggs said:
As I only recently purchased the Nook Tablet 16gb with version 1.4.2. There is overflow of information in these forums that has confused me and need some direction. I would like to know if the first thing I should do is to Root it and disable the OTA updates? (eventually I will want to install a stable version of CM9 ICS)
If so, which method is the best to do this? Does rooting happen internally on the NT or do I have to have something set on the SD all the time?
What other abilities will this give me?
Is there a huge benefit to rolling back to 1.4.0 (is it even possible?)?
Guidance will be much appreciated. Thanks !
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First thing I would do is go back to BN and have them repartition it for you. It will wipe everything from your nook when you do this but if you just started with it then there is no need for worry.
After that just root it and you will be able to sideload any app you want and have access to the market.
I haven't really read why 1.40 is "better" but mine and my buddies are on 1.42 and can do anything we need to with it after being rooted.
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PS: the link to Albert's video tutorials and to my How-to's/tutorials and videotutorials please read my FAQ, is located in general section and the link has been in my signature for long time now. See below (signature).
Alberts videos are in post #2 of my FAQ. Check his channel (link there) for more videos.
There you will find my tutorial for install and use ADB, and as i say San google is your friend you can find anything refering to the nook tablet if you google like this:
"adb tool" nook tablet,xda
"root" nook tablet,xda
"sdcard root" nook tablet, xda ... etc.
~ Veronica
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Thank you so much for all your help !!!
captkrunch said:
Veronica
I have two nt one with rooted 1.40 and the second is stock 1.42 with B&N repartion. I am concerned that I might have problems with Installing CM7 because of the B&N 1.42 partions. Shoudd I create a sd with CWM and CM7 I don't use B&N at all.
All the Best
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I know this question wasn't addressed for me, but the answer to your question is that it wouldn't matter. If you repartitioned your device at B&N it just changes the space allocated for the different partitions and won't affect the ability to install CM7. Though I believe with 1.4.2 you would need to boot your device via the charging cable to have it run from the sd card, whether it be CWM or CM7. How you install CWM and flash CM7 is up to you on that part.
cbarth3 said:
First thing I would do is go back to BN and have them repartition it for you. It will wipe everything from your nook when you do this but if you just started with it then there is no need for worry.
After that just root it and you will be able to sideload any app you want and have access to the market.
I haven't really read why 1.40 is "better" but mine and my buddies are on 1.42 and can do anything we need to with it after being rooted.
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Hmm, if just by rooting you are able to install any Android app, then what is the need to load CM7, CM9 or MIUI?
With the stock nook root, Google Play doesn't recognize the nook as a proper android and there are lot of games or apps unavailable to you even if you try to modify the build.prop files within the system folder to mimic another device (i tried T_T)
I personally didn't like any of the barnes and noble interface thats why I went for CM7. I was kind of hoping for bluetooth as well, but from what I'm reading on the android dev part of the forums, the hardware might not support it. With CM7/CM9 it's just more customizable so if you were looking for a cheaper tablet alternative you would root it through those means. But if you like the barnes and noble content, you would root it through stock.
Also with videos, I'm not entirely sure, but I believe with the stock root, even with MX player, HW decoding is only available to mp4 formats, while on CM7 and the other roots, you have larger variety:
"HW Decoding is limited to 3GP, 3G2, MP4, M4V, MKV, WEBM, H.264 (Baseline/Main/High profile) up to 1920x1080, MPEG-4 Simple/Advanced Simple profile up to 1920x1080, & H.263" <- succulent in another post
I'm the in exact position of the OP. Someone gave me a Nook Tablet the other day and all the root/ROM info out there in overwhelming to take in.
Some people are saying there's issues booting to an SD card with 1.4.2, some people don't seem to have a problem. What's the deal here? I've followed every guide to a T and can't get mine to boot off an SD card so I can flash CWM...
(I don't intend for this to be a thread jack. I'm hoping it will also help the OP)
I hope I am in the right forum for this thread. I have plenty of questions and hope to get answers to a few..... Here goes -
A few weeks ago I bought a nook 16Gb Tablet essentially for my wife and created a CM7 SD card to allow using it in stock BN system as well as experiment with Android use from that card. The end result is I decided I needed one for myself so I wouldn't conflict with her use. I had months ago rooted my nook eink but regardless of its expanded capability it was still only a great ebook reader and hopeless as a web browser, etc. So bought a Certified Preowned 16Gb nook Tablet for myself and duplicated the CM7 SD card process and was able to switch between stock nook use and Andorid use from the SD card using the dual boot process. I found myself mostly in the Andorid side and began to wonder why I was keeping the unused nook side around. After a ton of forum reading I decided to root my tablet and leave my wife's in its dual boot format - undoubtedly a safe move....
I used this process:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1466583&page=24
it is titled:
How to root 1.4.1 (or any other version) using just an sdcard {easy}
and I followed the detailed steps and links from "liquidzoo" post #240. Creating the SD card for the rooting process was easy. It went well up to the point of the step of powering up after inserting the SD card in the powered down nook. It kept booting into the stock BN nook side by use of the power on button. It began booting to the SD card only after I allowed it to power up by plugging it into my pc with the usb cord. Then the following steps went fine after I discoverd I had to use the volume controls to step through the menu selections. Thereafter it did go smoothly through the process. When the process indicated it had completed powered off, removed the SD card, and powered up into Android.
It seems to be somewhat faster than using Android from a dual boot (CM7 on SD card). I guess I missed somewhere that it would have dual a home selection menu allowing the stock nook home menu choice along with Android - so the best of both worlds. I am still familiarizing my self with the new configuration but so the fiirst of a few questions are:
Aside from experimentation, is there any way of finding out what all the icons in the status bar are for on the vbarious screens? Some are obvious but at one point I had a flashing-inverted-chevron icon that seemed to be maybe a downloading indicator but I couldn't find what.
Is there a simple toggle to switch from nook to android screens? Seems to be several taps to achieve that.
How do I install the Amazon Android App? I can' seem to find it.
I'll probably reply to this with other questions after I do more experimenting but answers to these woiuld be helpful.
Thanks in advance. I'm still a noob so I can't post to the link above but I think somewhere I saw the ability to 'Thank' as well as 'Donate' - both of which I need to do now. I think I'm really going to like the newly configured nook Tablet.
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I hope I am in the right forum for this thread. I have plenty of questions and hope to get answers to a few..... Here goes -
A few weeks ago I bought a nook 16Gb Tablet essentially for my wife and created a CM7 SD card to allow using it in stock BN system as well as experiment with Android use from that card. The end result is I decided I needed one for myself so I wouldn't conflict with her use. I had months ago rooted my nook eink but regardless of its expanded capability it was still only a great ebook reader and hopeless as a web browser, etc. So bought a Certified Preowned 16Gb nook Tablet for myself and duplicated the CM7 SD card process and was able to switch between stock nook use and Andorid use from the SD card using the dual boot process. I found myself mostly in the Andorid side and began to wonder why I was keeping the unused nook side around. After a ton of forum reading I decided to root my tablet and leave my wife's in its dual boot format - undoubtedly a safe move....
I used this process:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1466583&page=24
it is titled:
How to root 1.4.1 (or any other version) using just an sdcard {easy}
and I followed the detailed steps and links from "liquidzoo" post #240. Creating the SD card for the rooting process was easy. It went well up to the point of the step of powering up after inserting the SD card in the powered down nook. It kept booting into the stock BN nook side by use of the power on button. It began booting to the SD card only after I allowed it to power up by plugging it into my pc with the usb cord. Then the following steps went fine after I discoverd I had to use the volume controls to step through the menu selections. Thereafter it did go smoothly through the process. When the process indicated it had completed powered off, removed the SD card, and powered up into Android.
It seems to be somewhat faster than using Android from a dual boot (CM7 on SD card). I guess I missed somewhere that it would have dual a home selection menu allowing the stock nook home menu choice along with Android - so the best of both worlds. I am still familiarizing my self with the new configuration but so the fiirst of a few questions are:
Aside from experimentation, is there any way of finding out what all the icons in the status bar are for on the vbarious screens? Some are obvious but at one point I had a flashing-inverted-chevron icon that seemed to be maybe a downloading indicator but I couldn't find what.
Is there a simple toggle to switch from nook to android screens? Seems to be several taps to achieve that.
How do I install the Amazon Android App? I can' seem to find it.
I'll probably reply to this with other questions after I do more experimenting but answers to these woiuld be helpful.
Thanks in advance. I'm still a noob so I can't post to the link above but I think somewhere I saw the ability to 'Thank' as well as 'Donate' - both of which I need to do now. I think I'm really going to like the newly configured nook Tablet.
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First, read this.
Now, just so we're on the same page.
You created an sd card that allowed you to boot into a custom recovery and then using the volume up/down buttons, navigated to install and installed a zip file that allowed you to root the device correct?
If that is the case, you are still on the stock OS (as it sounds from your description). This is why you have both the stock B&N user interface (launcher) and a custom one (the one that looks more like cm7 did when booting from an sdcard).
Still have that custom recovery card? Here's my suggestion. Download a custom rom like cm7 and the appropriate gapps file (google apps, including the play store). Store these files on your internal storage. Next, boot back into the custom recovery and create a backup. Then, just as you did before, navigate to installing a zip and find the cm7 zip file you found before. Install the gapps zip file as well. When you're done, wipe data/factory reset and wipe cache. DO NOT FORMAT SYSTEM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT (people do this for some reason, I don't understand why and it breaks things - don't do it.) Upon rebooting, you will no longer have the stock OS installed You will have a custom rom, cm7 installed.
The difference from your current setup is that right now, the core of the device is still based on B&N version of Android. The alternate user interface is nothing more than a tease of what Android is truly capable of. A custom rom opens up many more doors and should be a much smoother experience.
Any questions post them. And please read the first post of the thread I linked.
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Also, I'm morally obligated to advise you to return the Nook and buy a Nexus 7, if you truly prefer the Google experience.
A bit to more to chew on....
Cubanluke88 said:
First, read this.
Now, just so we're on the same page.
You created an sd card that allowed you to boot into a custom recovery and then using the volume up/down buttons, navigated to install and installed a zip file that allowed you to root the device correct?
If that is the case, you are still on the stock OS (as it sounds from your description). This is why you have both the stock B&N user interface (launcher) and a custom one (the one that looks more like cm7 did when booting from an sdcard).
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Any questions post them. And please read the first post of the thread I linked.
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Also, I'm morally obligated to advise you to return the Nook and buy a Nexus 7, if you truly prefer the Google experience.
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Thank you, Cubanluke88, for you thoughts and suggestions.
First, I did grab your first linked post and realized some misconceptions. I still need to digest it more thoroughly, though.
On the part of your response that I have edited out in the qoute, I also want to read more troroughly and pose some questions in a later response.
As for the final suggestion, I have been eyeing the Nexus 7 for some time ane even though it is a bit more expensive than the nook Tablet I currently own I think I might get it (or a similar device) when fortune and convenience presents itself. For now, I am still in a learning mode with the Android-like device I currentlhy have and need to read and educate myself further. As stated in my opening post - I am a noob - there is a lot of experimenting I need to do.
I will be replying with some questions after more reading and thought on your offered suggestions in the section I edited out for the time being.....
questions....again
Cubanluke88 said:
First, read this.
Still have that custom recovery card? Here's my suggestion. Download a custom rom like cm7 and the appropriate gapps file (google apps, including the play store). Store these files on your internal storage. Next, boot back into the custom recovery and create a backup. Then, just as you did before, navigate to installing a zip and find the cm7 zip file you found before. Install the gapps zip file as well. When you're done, wipe data/factory reset and wipe cache. DO NOT FORMAT SYSTEM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT (people do this for some reason, I don't understand why and it breaks things - don't do it.) Upon rebooting, you will no longer have the stock OS installed You will have a custom rom, cm7 installed.
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Cubanluke88,
Thanks again for giving me something to think about.
I have read/reread both of your linked posts and your complete response to my post. Further, it is useful to comment that with my nook Tablet hardware it is not at all important for me to have the BN OS. I have a classic nook eink that is totally satisfactory for anything I may need for BN usage alone - mostly, ebook purchase and reading. I purchased the tablet as a means to get access to Android applications not possible from the nook classic which was also hopeless as a general web access device. As a rooted Android device, I anticipate it's nook app to be satisfactory as an ebook reader as well.
Referring to the quoted segment of you initial response:
Still have that custom recovery card?
Yes.
Download a custom rom like cm7 and the appropriate gapps file (google apps, including the play store) Store these files on your internal storage..
Can you suggest a pointer? I get swamped and cofused on what to choose when I google. The verison I have filed on my PC is embedded in an SD image file and I suspect that is not what you were referring to ( I have: -->> "Team-B-CM7SD-Alpha_final.img".
By "internal storage" do you mean in the recovery card or within the Tablet through USB connection?
Next, boot back into the custom recovery and create a backup. Then, just as you did before, navigate to installing a zip and find the cm7 zip file you found before. Install the gapps zip file as well. When you're done, wipe data/factory reset and wipe cache.
The backup would be my current loaded system - in case I need to get back?
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When you're done, wipe data/factory reset and wipe cache.
Is this a single menu item on the recovery card or separate commands?
I appreciate the help and apologise for the need for spoon feeeding but I hope it helps avoid making further mistakes......
One last thought, on the recovery card I downloaded and included "flash_B&N_Stock_v1.4.3_8-16gb_emmc" which I assume would restore to stock 1.4.3 BN version. Is that prossible? and would that be easier to do and start fresh?
Thanks in advance....
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Can you suggest a pointer? I get swamped and cofused on what to choose when I google. The verison I have filed on my PC is embedded in an SD image file and I suspect that is not what you were referring to ( I have: -->> "Team-B-CM7SD-Alpha_final.img".
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That .img file is what you used to create the sdcard your wife and you used. Just as with the recovery sd card, you take said .img file and burn it to it to create a "bootable" sdcard. Thats not what we want to do now (if you're ready to replace the stock OS). Go to this thread for cm7. See where it says "Internal version 8GB & 16GB Compatiable?" Grab that. That is the rom zip file itself. To get gapps, youll need cm7 compatible gapps, found here.
By "internal storage" do you mean in the recovery card or within the Tablet through USB connection?
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By internal storage, I'm referring to the internal storage on the Nook itself. (like what you see when you mount it via USB on your computer). It should come up as "My Nook" or something to that effect. If you store the rom zip file here, you will be able to boot into recovery via the sdcard you created, navigate to the internal storage and find the zip file and install it. Now personally, I would recommend, that if you plan on using internal roms, that you should also change the internal recovery to a custom one. With an internal custom recovery, you could swap between various roms without ever needing to use that recovery sd card. You would simply boot into recovery, grab the zip file for whatever custom rom you want to use and install it.
The easiest way to get a custom recovery is via this app here. Simply install the app and flash the custom recovery within it. Its also a great tool to return to stock recovery should you ever need to.
The backup would be my current loaded system - in case I need to get back?
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Yep.
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Is this a single menu item on the recovery card or separate commands?
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Its in the recovery menu there right at the front. You should see something like reboot system, apply sdcard, wipedata/factory reset, wipe cache, install zip, backup and restore. Backup/restore to backup your current installation, install zip to install the rom + gapps, and wipe data/factory reset + wipe cache after installation.
One last thought, on the recovery card I downloaded and included "flash_B&N_Stock_v1.4.3_8-16gb_emmc" which I assume would restore to stock 1.4.3 BN version. Is that prossible? and would that be easier to do and start fresh?
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I'm not sure what this is. I'll take a look at it.
Cubanluke88 said:
Now personally, I would recommend, that if you plan on using internal roms, that you should also change the internal recovery to a custom one. With an internal custom recovery, you could swap between various roms without ever needing to use that recovery sd card. You would simply boot into recovery, grab the zip file for whatever custom rom you want to use and install it.
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Read much of the following thread and while I think it will be simpler in the future I assume I can do that at any time. Right?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1458630
Albert Wertz's youtube video throws a lot of stuff into the process which looks very interesting but I think I'll "crawl" around a bit and use recovery card for little longer while I become more familiar with a rooted tablet.
I grabbed the CM7 and gapp zips you pointed to and I'm going to give that a whirl with my current recovery card and post back with results - hopefully good......
Note that if you install cm7 to the device, you are not simply on a "rooted" tablet anymore. You will be on a custom rom that also happens to have root access (most custom roms do). Its also worth noting that cm7 is a custom rom based on Android 2.3.4, so the roms capabilities and limitations will be subsequently limited to what cm7 is capable of. The latest version of Android is 4.1 and we are lucky enough to have a custom rom (cm10) in development based on it.
sawbuck00;33537204.
I grabbed the CM7 and gapp zips you pointed to and I'm going to give that a whirl with my current recovery card and post back with results - hopefully good......[/QUOTE said:
Well it seemed to go smoothly. Currently geting updates downloaded. Back to exploring and experimenting....
Thank you, Cubanluke88, for help and advice. I expect I'll be back in awhile when I'm ready to install the internal recovery app and probably will screw things up at some point but it is my aim to get a better understanding the capabilities......
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undeeded apps
Been doing some exploring and contemplating addition of a few apps. However, some of the apps loaded with CM7 and Gapps (like car home, phone, camera to name a few) don't make sense on a nook tablet - unless I'm missing a reason they should be there. What is the best way of uninstalling/deleting these or any I may install but discover no need for?
TIA....
sawbuck00 said:
Been doing some exploring and contemplating addition of a few apps. However, some of the apps loaded with CM7 and Gapps (like car home, phone, camera to name a few) don't make sense on a nook tablet - unless I'm missing a reason they should be there. What is the best way of uninstalling/deleting these or any I may install but discover no need for?
TIA....
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They're there because cm7 is a port of a phone based OS (Android 2.3 was designed for phones). You can disable them but I believe camera is tied to gallery so that could screw up picture viewing and phone might be tied to contacts so that could screw up your contacts database if you use gmail. If you have a file explorer that has root access (I use root explorer, paid app in play store), you can navigate to /system/apps and all the apks for those apps (system apps) are found there. You can add a ".bak" extension to each one, then reboot and see if anything breaks. If for some reason things break really badly, you can always reboot to recovery and just flash the rom on top of it again.
I got a NT not long ago and it is now rooted and running CM10, however I still lost in regards the 1gb user partition. CM10 is installed in that partition and I wanted in fact repartition the NT but the process seems to be confuse and risky so I was wondering if I have to stay llimited to work with just 1GB.
How about games and other programs I download? Are they all be installed in that 1gb?
I inserted a 16gb card but I cannot re -direct the apps to install in the external or even move them to the sd ext card. I also cannot see it with a file manager.
Could I use the B&N partition to load movies, apps etc or it will be sitting there useless?
Is there maybe an easier way to re-flash and repartition?
Thank you
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You can reaprtition the same way they do in stores if you want to and get an 8GB partition for own storage. The repart.img mentioned in many other topics will do that for you. You will loose everyhting and get right back to out of the box stock firmware if you do it, but it's really easy.
asawi said:
You can reaprtition the same way they do in stores if you want to and get an 8GB partition for own storage. The repart.img mentioned in many other topics will do that for you. You will loose everyhting and get right back to out of the box stock firmware if you do it, but it's really easy.
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Thank you Asawi, yes I really would like to repartition it. I hate to have that wasted space.
I will try find the best thread on how to use the repart.img. or please point me out in case you already know.
Thanks!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1663836
The download link is in the very beginning of this post. If you've got image writing software already you can then jump to step 2. Extract the downlad and burn the reaprt.img to a card. Insert card and boot to it. After a few minutes a green chejmark should appear. (If a red cross appears instead you're in trouble.) Remove card and an update starts and goes on for a few minutes and you can then start over with yout CM10 install again.
asawi said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1663836
The download link is in the very beginning of this post. If you've got image writing software already you can then jump to step 2. Extract the downlad and burn the reaprt.img to a card. Insert card and boot to it. After a few minutes a green chejmark should appear. (If a red cross appears instead you're in trouble.) Remove card and an update starts and goes on for a few minutes and you can then start over with yout CM10 install again.
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So after doing this will I have to reroot or I just have to reinstall cm10? Getting my 16gb card in the mail (hopefully today) should I wait to get the card or can I just copy everything from my 8bg to the 16 and everything remain? Thank you for your help!
It's probably me being stupid, but I don't understand what setup you have and quite what you are talking about. Running the repart .img will completely erase everything on the device and set it back to freshly bought. Whatever you have in internal memory that you want to save you need to save somewhere else.
I don't get your reasoning that CM10 is installed in your 1GB partition, because that is not the norm.
Probably me being stupid, but I can't help you.
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So after doing this will I have to reroot or I just have to reinstall cm10? Getting my 16gb card in the mail (hopefully today) should I wait to get the card or can I just copy everything from my 8bg to the 16 and everything remain? Thank you for your help!
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Never mind I fully read the post and now know I will have to reroot. Glad I bookmarked all the pages I used.
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Never mind I fully read the post and now know I will have to reroot. Glad I bookmarked all the pages I used.
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Well, if you're installing CM10 you don't actually have to root as a separate process. Just install CM10 and rooting will come done at the same time. Itäs only if you plan to run stock you need to root.
If you have to go and get stuff from several pages you are probably not doing the installing in a very efficient way. Possibly things can be done a lot easier now than whe you originally did it.
Ihave made several posts outlining an extremely easy way to install CM. Look for them if you want to.
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Well, if you're installing CM10 you don't actually have to root as a separate process. Just install CM10 and rooting will come done at the same time. Itäs only if you plan to run stock you need to root.
If you have to go and get stuff from several pages you are probably not doing the installing in a very efficient way. Possibly things can be done a lot easier now than whe you originally did it.
Ihave made several posts outlining an extremely easy way to install CM. Look for them if you want to.
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I had already done the root from a video I saw on youtube then used your link for cm from the [Q] Noob Alert! Nook Tablet 8GB Rooting Question! post. So just doing the cm from that same post will also root my device? I don't really need anything on the actually nook. I got it as a gift and use the kindle app for all my books. I will defiently look into your other posts. I just got the NT a little less than a month ago.
If you root before installing CM10 you'll just overwrite the root you did, so no point in doing it.
Once CM10 is installed your Tablet should be rooted.
All you need to do is get into CWM 6.x.x an flash the ROM and appropriate gApps zips.