I tried dropping some large multimedia files I have (MKV specifically) and I notice I'm getting hit with file size limitations whether I try to put it on the SD card or the internal memory.
How do I get over this limitation? What file system can I format my external SD card so that I can put large files on it and also make it easily readable by a Windows OS? Thanks!
I'm using a 32GB microSD card at the moment.
Google "split mkv" and save yourself a lot of time and trouble.
You're hitting the limitations of FAT32, and while possible, its nontrivial to use an alternative file system for either the emmc or microsd mounts.
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Shammyh said:
Google "split mkv" and save yourself a lot of time and trouble.
You're hitting the limitations of FAT32, and while possible, its nontrivial to use an alternative file system for either the emmc or microsd mounts.
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okay sounds good. I've used MKVTools to play with the files before as well. What's the limit again? 4GB?
Format your Micro sd card to nfts.
Yup, 4GB
Biporch said:
Format your Micro sd card to nfts.
Yup, 4GB
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phone can't read/write NTFS from what I understand
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phone can't read/write NTFS from what I understand
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Hi,
Is there an android app that can check the file system and defragement the SD card?
After my 16GB card became read only I shut down the phone, removed the sd card and check it in windows. There were a few file problems (in a Google Currents directory).
Having fixed this problem I decided to check the fragmentation. It was 45%.
A utility that could do these functions while the phone is plugged in would be great.
Are there any?
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Hi,
Is there an android app that can check the file system and defragement the SD card?
After my 16GB card became read only I shut down the phone, removed the sd card and check it in windows. There were a few file problems (in a Google Currents directory).
Having fixed this problem I decided to check the fragmentation. It was 45%.
A utility that could do these functions while the phone is plugged in would be great.
Are there any?
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I don't know any app that can do it but you can do it on your computer just mount your SD card as mass storage and use a program like defraggler to defraggler your card.
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You shouldn't defragment flash memory. It's life will be reduced if you do. Because flash memory has far lesser read/write cycles till it fails, compared to magnetic storage like a HDD. Defragmenting flash memory won't bring about too much of a speed improvement, because unlike a HDD where the disk physically has to move to reach fragments of data, there are no moving parts in flash storage.
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You shouldn't defragment flash memory. It's life will be reduced if you do. Because flash memory has far lesser read/write cycles till it fails, compared to magnetic storage like a HDD. Defragmenting flash memory won't bring about too much of a speed improvement, because unlike a HDD where the disk physically has to move to reach fragments of data, there are no moving parts in flash storage.
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Thank you for the advice. An Android app that does a checkdsk would be great. As nerot indicated today I am plugging in the card into an SD card reader and using the utility that comes with Windows.
Hi,
I have used a SD card adapter which has an 16GB microSD card inside it. The card doesn't show in the Settings->Storage. Can anyone help me?
first of all, make sure the card is formated in FAT32.
The tablet won't read it if it's not.
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Hi,
I have used a SD card adapter which has an 16GB microSD card inside it. The card doesn't show in the Settings->Storage. Can anyone help me?
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The SD card will never show there. It's not a part of the system storage.
Mine is plugged in now and you can only use the preloaded sony software 'file transfer' to move files to and from it.
The app 'file manager HD (honeycomb) ' by RHYTHM from the market is a must have if you own this tablet and an SD card!! You can still load all your videos and extra files on the SD and view/use them with that application without having to copy them to the system. I use it as the time
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The SD card will never show there. It's not a part of the system storage.
Mine is plugged in now and you can only use the preloaded sony software 'file transfer' to move files to and from it.
The app 'file manager HD (honeycomb) ' by RHYTHM from the market is a must have if you own this tablet and an SD card!! You can still load all your videos and extra files on the SD and view/use them with that application without having to copy them to the system. I use it as the time
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I use ES File Explorer and love it.
Me to
Maine_Coon said:
I use ES File Explorer and love it.
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That's my main browser as well.
MarkB709 said:
The SD card will never show there. It's not a part of the system storage.
Mine is plugged in now and you can only use the preloaded sony software 'file transfer' to move files to and from it.
The app 'file manager HD (honeycomb) ' by RHYTHM from the market is a must have if you own this tablet and an SD card!! You can still load all your videos and extra files on the SD and view/use them with that application without having to copy them to the system. I use it as the time
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Thanks a lot mate. The issue has been resolved.
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I use ES File Explorer and love it.
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I've actually gone back from ES to Astro again. Once you change the settings to make the SD and USB shortcuts point to the right place, the experience is really effortless and seamless. Just my $0.02 obviously.
Ihad the same problem with my 32gb sd card until I formatted it, but now I have only 3.2gb left internally and no way to transfer my game files over to improve the internal memory.OMG.
What wereSony thinking of, I woulde never have bought this if I only had 8.5gb of space.
diddy64 said:
Ihad the same problem with my 32gb sd card until I formatted it, but now I have only 3.2gb left internally and no way to transfer my game files over to improve the internal memory.OMG.
What wereSony thinking of, I woulde never have bought this if I only had 8.5gb of space.
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You must have filled her up hard? I got 3.3GB+5.4GB free on my two "internal" and about 25GB free on my 128GB SDXC card.
lol, yeah, pretty hard. GTA3, brothers in arms and adrenalin 6 are only a few. When i used my Dell Streak I used my 32gb class 10 card and it was half full with games.
I am now having to be a little more selective with what I put on, which isn't that hard since a lot of the games are having incompatibility issues.
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lol, yeah, pretty hard. GTA3, brothers in arms and adrenalin 6 are only a few. When i used my Dell Streak I used my 32gb class 10 card and it was half full with games.
I am now having to be a little more selective with what I put on, which isn't that hard since a lot of the games are having incompatibility issues.
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I got like 7 psone games and five others on my tablet and still a lot of space. I guess mine is kinda small compared to yours. But the psone at least take a few hundred mb each.
don't know if you already solved your problem but I've inserted a brand new sandisk sdhc card and it wans't recognized either. Then I've tested a lexar sdhc card and no good either.
Conclusion to get recognized:
Open "file transfer" app it's one of your sony s apps
then insert the sdcard and automagically the sdcard was recognized and I can use it
It seems stupid but worked
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don't know if you already solved your problem but I've inserted a brand new sandisk sdhc card and it wans't recognized either. Then I've tested a lexar sdhc card and no good either.
Conclusion to get recognized:
Open "file transfer" app it's one of your sony s apps
then insert the sdcard and automagically the sdcard was recognized and I can use it
It seems stupid but worked
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Yeah thats working. Thx
Hi Guys, only a quick question really!
Is it possible to use internal storage as ram to boost the memory up a little?
reason i ask is that (for example) windows 7 lets you stick a usb stick in and boost the ram up.
I would have thought that the same could be achieved by some of the developers on here by borrowing some internal storage for use with ram.
( I searched and couldn't find anything that related to this. )
Paul. :fingers-crossed:
No
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And why would you want to? It would be on the order of magnitudes slower than RAM.
RAM operates in nanoseconds whereas storage operates in milliseconds. (Storage is 1000 times slower..)
Look in the dev section. There is a mod where you can use part of your external sd card as a swap partition.
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Siyah kernel supports swap partition. You need to have an external sd card for it. It's only for ics rom right now. More info? Check development section.
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It's possible.
Here's how to do it.
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And why would you want to? It would be on the order of magnitudes slower than RAM.
RAM operates in nanoseconds whereas storage operates in milliseconds. (Storage is 1000 times slower..)
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I just had a crazy idea that id be able somehow to borrow 1gb from my 32gb card and run 2gb of ram. but if what you explained is correct ill leave it as it is as its not that big an issue, however....... i have Siyah kernel installed already, might have to read up on 'swap partition' hopefully giving me more internal storage for downloading large sized games etc. I keep running out of internal storage memory when downloading games and for some reason on the latest 4.0.4 sammy build i cannot move apps to sd card.
ill have a tinker with swap partition and see how that goes, thanks for your info guys.
A swap partition won't help you download bigger files and all you have to do is download directly to external memory, and it's impossible to move Apps to external memory unless you Root and use App called Directory Bind.
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A swap partition won't help you download bigger files and all you have to do is download directly to external memory, and it's impossible to move Apps to external memory unless you Root and use App called Directory Bind.
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not the only app
there are other apps e.g. app2sd
dark tremors mod allows you to format part of the memory stick as either ext3 and use that to install apps on
this is done automatically on swedish snow which is a rom on zte blade,
i don't know if there is an app to do this on gs3 but it is possible to do it
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not the only app
there are other apps e.g. app2sd
dark tremors mod allows you to format part of the memory stick as either ext3 and use that to install apps on
this is done automatically on swedish snow which is a rom on zte blade,
i don't know if there is an app to do this on gs3 but it is possible to do it
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Nope it's impossible to use any Apps like App2Sd because the external memory now uses ExFat format and mounted as a separate device so can't move the cache like other phones, so only way is to use Directory Bind to use Android's folder Binding function to trick Apps into thinking it's reading from internal memory.
I just had a crazy idea that id be able somehow to borrow 1gb from my 32gb card and run 2gb of ram
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Take a look at another feature Siyah includes; zRAM. It basically reduces(!) your available memory by taking a chunk of it (up to 300MB can be set through STweaks) which is then used with GZip-Compression to create a in-RAM Swap partition.
This is based on the idea that in current phones/computers the CPU is far more powerful than is usually needed, so the performance impact of using it for Swap is not that high. On the other hand you don't save that much RAM - but it certainly helps without crippling down your phone and/or greatly reducing your SSD's capacity
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Nope it's impossible to use any Apps like App2Sd because the external memory now uses ExFat format and mounted as a separate device so can't move the cache like other phones, so only way is to use Directory Bind to use Android's folder Binding function to trick Apps into thinking it's reading from internal memory.
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I use 'GL to SD' from the play store. Worked great on the S2 as well.
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joey jojo said:
Hi Guys, only a quick question really!
Is it possible to use internal storage as ram to boost the memory up a little?
reason i ask is that (for example) windows 7 lets you stick a usb stick in and boost the ram up.
I would have thought that the same could be achieved by some of the developers on here by borrowing some internal storage for use with ram.
( I searched and couldn't find anything that related to this. )
Paul. :fingers-crossed:
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Windows uses it more to reduce hard drive access as this is slower than a memory stick
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Windows uses it more to reduce hard drive access as this is slower than a memory stick
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What? No! Unless you have a USB 3.0 or a SATA supported flash memory of some kind, most other means are slower than HDDs which get around 100 mb/s read and write. Compare that to a Class 10 at 10mb/s...
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A solution I use is something somehow similar to app2sd.
To achieve it just crop the first partition of your external sd fitting to the size you want to use as second partition and create an additional partition with a supported format (I personally prefer ext4).
Move the content of your /sdcard/Android folder to the new partition and write a mount script where you mount the /dev/block/mmcblk1p2 device to /sdcard/Android.
Execute it with script manager with su rights and mark on boot and you will gain more internal space for games and apps and only have to worry about moving files if you downloaded to much with the browser or such.
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What? No! Unless you have a USB 3.0 or a SATA supported flash memory of some kind, most other means are slower than HDDs which get around 100 mb/s read and write. Compare that to a Class 10 at 10mb/s...
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the "mb/s" stat is irrelevant in the case of ReadyBoost, the windows feature that boosts access time of cached files through flash memory on usb stick or memory card...
cant post a link but, wikipedia is your friend
the feature is more of a gimmick than anything else, but its there and it does what it say it does to the extent of its limitations which are very low...
Most Windows computers have HDD's and not like our S3 an SSD.
HDD's are faster than memory sticks ONLY in writing and continuous read (one big file without fragmentation)
Readyboost uses a SSD for small often-read fragments qualifying as random read where even your cheap USB2 stick is by far faster than a hard drive.
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Nope it's impossible to use any Apps like App2Sd because the external memory now uses ExFat format and mounted as a separate device so can't move the cache like other phones, so only way is to use Directory Bind to use Android's folder Binding function to trick Apps into thinking it's reading from internal memory.
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But my external SD is not ExFat.
I know that because I format it myself.
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I have this microsd card 64gb SanDisk class 10 and the phone formatted it to fat32 the first time I inserted it.
I download a lot of stuff from my.phone internet like torrent, hd videos, live stream, etc....
the problem is that my phone does not want to save anything more than 4gb and splitting the files is not.possible as I download it directly onto my phone.
afaik, ntfs supports file larger than 4gb. Is there anyway to make my phone support sdcard formatted on ntfs? If so, does it have any drawbacks like poor reliability, performance, program incompatibility, crashes?
Oh boy... Make sure your card is formatted for your phone and not for your computer. From there if you mount as sd card(hard disk mode) it will read as a flash drive and limit the maximum transfer for windows at 4012mb if I'm not mistaken..
however, if you mount as media sync instead of hard disk mode you will be able to drag and drop ANY size file from your pc to phone.
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I think you misunderstood what I mean.
first of all, I am not using a pc.or a Mac to download myfiles.
I am downloading everything directly to my.phone by apps such as ttorrent(for torrent stuff), tubemate(for yiutube), flash video downloader add on for Firefox(for flash videos) and etc...
the problem is, I cannot download stuff that is bigger than 4gb(like full 1080p blu ray rip movie, tv shows, pc software and games, etc...)
also, I mostly download stuff when I am on school campus because the internet (free WiFi) there is so much faster than what I have and using a.smartphone.to download is so convinient as it stays on my pocket.
If your going to be downloading 4gb+ files from the internet without a pc middleman then you can't use fat32 on any disk with any given space. You must format to ntfs or ext4. I would use ext4 because windows 7 & android recognizes them and they do not have a 4096mb file limit.
However Some androids won't recognize a ntfs file system. There is an app for that to remount ntfs to ext 4 on the market. But since you use your phone and not your computer I would just format to ext4.
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If your going to be downloading 4gb+ files from the internet without a pc middleman then you can't use fat32 on any disk with any given space. You must format to ntfs or ext4. I would use ext4 because windows 7 & android recognizes them and they do not have a 4096mb file limit.
However Some androids won't recognize a ntfs file system. There is an app for that to remount ntfs to ext 4 on the market. But since you use your phone and not your computer I would just format to ext4.
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are you 100% sure EVO 4g LTE supports Exfat?
I also heard problems regarding exfat on gs3 being not being able to recognize/read some files.
if my memory.serves me tight, when I bought my SanDisk 64gb class 10 microSD, it is formatted in exfat.but when I plug it to my EVO 4g LTE, it ask to format and it automatically made it fat32
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I have this microsd card 64gb SanDisk class 10 and the phone formatted it to fat32 the first time I inserted it.
I download a lot of stuff from my.phone internet like torrent, hd videos, live stream, etc....
the problem is that my phone does not want to save anything more than 4gb and splitting the files is not.possible as I download it directly onto my phone.
afaik, ntfs supports file larger than 4gb. Is there anyway to make my phone support sdcard formatted on ntfs? If so, does it have any drawbacks like poor reliability, performance, program incompatibility, crashes?
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FAT or FAT32 is a different format then usual and this method does restrict file sizes to 4GB max. Also if memory serves, this limits the partition size to 32GB max, so you may now have nearly half of your card un-partitioned. Simply place your card in a card reader and connect to your computer and quick format it to NTFS. I have a 16GB card and have used it since my OG Evo 4G and currently have a 7.8GB .mkv movie file on it. Reads and plays with no problems on my Evo 4G LTE. Hope this helps.
Rezound running NilsP ROM (Sense 3.6) and 16G external card.
Phone has a lot of internal space taken up by some backup files, pics and videos (in dcim folder). External card only had about 2.5-3Gb space taken.
Went you a street festival and took some videos. Got to a point where phone indicated storage was full. Tried moving some files to external but phone still seems to think max storage is limited to 10Gb.
Seems the phone thinks whatever is on ext-sd is part of storage limit and is limited to 10Gb.
Am I missing something? What's the value of having a 16 or 32Gb external card if the limit restricts the actual usable storage?
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Have you rebooted since you moved the files? That should cause the service to rescan both internal and external storage.
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Have you rebooted since you moved the files? That should cause the service to rescan both internal and external storage.
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Thanks for the reply.
Yes, I did a complete power down. I also thought that might help the OS recognize the file moves. No go.
It seems to me the system is including the symlink, or however ext-sd is mapped to sdcard, in what the system thinks it's limited to with no external card.
Is this a side-effect of the direction Android is going (without external cards as part of native support, a la Nexus)?
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I think it is something funky with your phone. Mine uses all the memory. I currently have 9 gig filled on each internal and external.
Two questions:
Are you saying your internal has 9 gig and your external (ext-sd) card has 9 gig of other files? Not saying I don't believe you, just wanting to confirm I'm reading your response correctly.
Other question - are you using NilsP's ICS ROM? If you're not, I'd be interested in what you are using, stock or otherwise, and if it's ICS or GB.
Thanks again for your replies.
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Check for a folder called .Trash1000 or something similar to that. If its there, delete it and it should clear up a lot of space on your SD.
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dm5530 said:
Two questions:
Are you saying your internal has 9 gig and your external (ext-sd) card has 9 gig of other files? Not saying I don't believe you, just wanting to confirm I'm reading your response correctly.
Other question - are you using NilsP's ICS ROM? If you're not, I'd be interested in what you are using, stock or otherwise, and if it's ICS or GB.
Thanks again for your replies.
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Yes, using about 9 gig on each.
Currently running Ineff Dues, but I've also used NilsP's ICS and had no problem.
Try what Obat suggested above. That folder is a hidden folder and may not show up in all file explorers.
I've seen the .Trash folders before on some SD cards (wife has a Mac laptop).
I'm using several file managers and have never seen that on my phone's micro-SDs.
Appreciate the replies, guys. At this point, I think I'll wipe and install again.
I'll post again after that with my results/experience.
Thanks.
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Have you tried swapping in another SD card to see if it gives you identical results?
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I've seen the .Trash folders before on some SD cards (wife has a Mac laptop).
I'm using several file managers and have never seen that on my phone's micro-SDs.
Appreciate the replies, guys. At this point, I think I'll wipe and install again.
I'll post again after that with my results/experience.
Thanks.
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Probably way late on this, but I only see it when I'm using Linux and I choose to show hidden files.
You sure you actually moved the files from internal to external or did you copy them and leave a copy on both the internal and external...
Make sure you actually deleted the files after the move so you don't have two copies. I use es file explorer and you have to go in the settings and change it to show hidden files (files with a . in front of them) to see the .trash folder.
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Have you tried swapping in another SD card to see if it gives you identical results?
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Just a follow-up as I promised:
I was using a 16gig card for almost a year, had a 32gig available and wanted to do a few things to update my phone (ICS 3.x to ICS 4.x; NilsP's Sense 3.6 to his Sense 4.0 ROM; cleanup the memory card space, etc.).
My suspicion is that the external card had some corruption (or perhaps it was system-related).
Since I made several changes, I'm not sure at the moment what the culprit was, but things seem to be operating properly and (best I can tell) I have access to ~10gig for internal SD (SDCARD) and ~32gig for the external micro-SD (SDCARD2).
Appreciate everyone's concern and suggestions for help.
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