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Hey guys,
I was planning on getting the SGSII (I just sold my SGS for this, actually) but after lurking around here a bit I'm now a bit weary of going ahead with the purchase.
Between battery drain issues, screen issues, Wi-Fi issues, heat issues, and now approx. 3-4 different versions of the SGSII (which makes me scared of ROM incompatibility between the different models) I guess I just need to ask... is this phone actually worth getting, or will I get shafted by a new, fixed version that will come out in a couple of months?
Your opinion?
No if you cannot differentiate between a few users with problems and the majority with no problem . Dont buy you will only go looking for problems .
My phone and many others have .
One No battery problem
Two No yellow screen problem
Three No other screen issues
Four No WiFi issues
Five No heat issues
Six No problems with rom incompatibility only an idiot will install the wrong rom .
jje
JJEgan Is Right..
I have brought my mobile even after knowing problem.After getting it I have started searching for what is new not for a Problem...
Only problem for me is Screen will become hot while charging but not soooo Much hot just very little other than that Great Mobile..
It will be nice if they release NFC in this not by releasing new model like the rumors saying I9101 etc ..This is One of the Best Mobiles till Now.Many people know about the problem Few People having but still they are buying ..Many shops are out of stock...I will say GET IT
I have to mostly agree with jje, except for 1 point. ALL SGS2s have the discolouration issue, but you have to specifically set up your phone in a particular manner (that no-one actually uses) and go looking for the issue in order to even vaguely comprehend what the "problem" actually is. Seriously, when you do see it you realise that the problem lies in the people whining about it, not the phone.
Unless you're unlucky enough to just get a dud phone, get it and you won't regret it. Best phone I've ever had, and that's after nearly 2 years with a HD2 and every ROM under the sun.
Duly noted. My main concern is not software issues which can and will be sorted out either by Samsung or the Android community, my main concern is with hardware issues (screen, battery, etc) which obviously can not be fixed by the community.
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Duly noted. My main concern is not software issues which can and will be sorted out either by Samsung or the Android community, my main concern is with hardware issues (screen, battery, etc) which obviously can not be fixed by the community.
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Personally, I don't have any hardware issues.
I get a full day of battery out of my phone, and that's using it as a smartphone (browsing; notifications such as facebook, twitter and news updates; wordfeud etc.) If I turn off all data and use it as a phone and SMS device only then I get about 2.5 days.
As for the screen, I have 0 complaints about it. It's seriously the best screen I've ever seen on a mobile device. I particularly love having mostly black backgrounds. Not only does it increase battery life, it looks bloody lovely!
Please bear in mind that most people only post threads when they have problems. It makes it sound like everyone is complaining, but they're not. If we had a real count of how many users are on this site, compared to how many are having real problems then you'd see it's actually only a small percentage, and you're gonna get that with any piece of tech.
I am not a rich guy but i gambled knowing all the problems i have been reading... So far it is just a great phone... It is a phone that make you gamble
Yet to find a problem. Battery works for a day (if this is a problem for you)...
I keep upgrading whenever a new phone comes out - SGS2 is THE fastest phone I've had with the BEST battery life.
With other phones, HTC Desire, Hero, etc I've had issues that I've had to counter by installing custom ROM's & acting as a guinie pig for the dev's but with this one - I'm on the stock ROM with no updates - it's rock solid and absolutely no issues.
I wouldn't think twice in recommending this phone.
my 2 cents...
to be honest i really love the phone. it has some annoyances but i really do like it. it's blazin' fast, i love android, and even the look and feel of the phone...
now, the only thing is: i only get about half a day of juice (recharge at night and once again in the afternoon and to be honest i just have no clue how people are getting those numbers like 20h+ of moderate use (well i guess it depends on how you dfine moderate use)... i have 0 widgets (4 widgets (stock calenda, stock powermanagement, google search and the beautiful weather thing with clock))...and main thing i do is: whats app, music, some browsing, emails (set to check only once an hour) and of course make calls... but i believe that it has to do with a bug somewhere. i freezed the wifi-sharing thingy and tried everything i've read so far to conserve battery. eventhough i have the screen set to about 10-30% brightness or auto brightness, it not very spurprised, is always around 60% or more and the android os and system use quite a lot...
but all that said, i still love the phone and i'm glad i bought it!
It's definitely a VFM. And frankly I dont have any WiFi problem. Battery it's okay too. And unless you focus at that screen with a digital camera you won't even notice the Yellowish tint. I am frankly very happy with mine.
Regards.
Sent from GT-I9100
The phone has been ordered
Thanks all for your input!
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People with issues tend to post more. Those are the threads with 1000post not the positive threads that might reach 50post.
JJEgan said:
No if you cannot differentiate between a few users with problems and the majority with no problem . Dont buy you will only go looking for problems .
My phone and many others have .
One No battery problem
Two No yellow screen problem
Three No other screen issues
Four No WiFi issues
Five No heat issues
Six No problems with rom incompatibility only an idiot will install the wrong rom .
jje
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Gentlemen and ladies,
I am opening this thread for constructive feedback of the TFP in real world use after the .28 update. Please stay on topic, HELPFUL and RESPECTFUL. By having an open an honest forum, we can help drive development and troubleshooting. Please be thoughtful and give it some time so you get a good sense of the changes.
My review will be here sometime this week and I will update regularly.
First two hours:
General feeling is that it's is considerably faster and smoother. Swype actually functions like it should with no lag, which is huge for me. Wifi signal is stronger, went to the opposite side of the house which is through a brick wall , a refrigerator, and another wall, about 30 feet in total. Used to get 1 bar, now a solid 2, total signal loss of 36% on wifi analytics app. I did get two ANRs on Facebook using dolphin, got it on stock browser too. had this scenario twice so far: 2ANRoD, two ANR of death, on stock browser with flash heavy objects, I'll get two popups and wait doesn't fix it and browser crashed. Still Pleased so far. More to come.
After first full day (6/14/2012):
The happiness with the update is starting to fade a bit as some old problems remain. I cold rebooted to see if there was any improvement, (not really)
Browsing: I have been experiencing a few ANRs messages consistently, they are way less than .21, but a few time an hour. I have noticed that google news website no longer produces the ANR on dolphin, where previously it did. Some sites that are flash work great, others not so much. FB webpage creates the ANR message everytime. I do continue to get some hangs or web pages that do not load completely, but generally the experience is faster loading. Stock browser continues to perform better than Dolphin, so I have to switch back and forth a bit which is annoying. .28 is still a step in the right direction by clearly not up to par. From Gary's post, I look forward to the next update to clear this up.
Productivity: opening pdf files is noticeably faster but still EXTREMELY slow by comparison to my sgsII. (For example, my sgsII opens a 3mb pdf of 180 pages in less than a second, whereas the TFP takes at least 10 seconds or longer to load a 3mb file of 10 pages.) I find this to be unacceptable as I bought the TFP specifically for work related tasks. using swype is still better, some glitchiness but far less.
WiFi: still better than .21 consistently in my home. Signal has been noticeably improved. I am definitely pleased there.
UI: Definitely there is a sense of more smoothness and snappiness most of the time. The TFP is pretty tempermental at times with increased lag, slow downs, or out and out unresponsiveness for 10s or greater. Sometimes its perfectly fine with no rhyme or reason. Definitely an annoyance when this occurs.
Battery life: I haven't notice a huge difference yet, but my use patterns are typically 2-3hrs so i don't stress the battery too much, i do have a vacation coming up so we'll see then. I do notice on the that when the dock is plugged in, it transfers battery to the tablet sooner. A few weeks ago i had a class for 9 hours, i noticed the tab would discharge to almost 50% before the dock kicked in. Now, the dock kicks in right away. after about 30 minutes i'm down to 80%, as it charged the tab about 15% then seemed to stop charging it for a while. looking at the battery meter i notice that it made a small sine wave, kicks in a little, then lets the tab discharge a bit. cool. ps- can i request a better battery graph? maybe some numbers and xy lines?
24 hour impression: This update is a step in the right direction as there are some improvements, but those improvements by an large are hard to quantify, other than the WiFi. I believe that the website loading is better most of the time. I am definitely disappointed by the ANRs and processing; my belief is that there should be improved processing over my sgsII dual core. I'll say this now because it came to mind over the last 24 hours: though less than .21, erratic performance and continued problems nearly 7 months out from release, with an update that took a long time to come out makes me suspicious of larger issues. I believe that there are solutions, and .28 shows that things can be better, I begin to wonder how much of a time investment will make in the tf201 over the long run to get it to where it should be. Over the weekend I am going to be using the dock and probably playing more games, so I will round out my review at the five day mark.
Wifi/BT on the new firmware I am actually seeing an improvement now. I used to get about 1-2mb when using my headphones out of 20M. Now I'm seeing about 3-5.. so they messed with something good thankfully. It seems Netflix doesn't buffer for me as long as I'm getting 1-2mb down so I'll take anything better than it was
Browser was not an issue with ANR for me before but seems fine as well after the update I set my plugins to ondemand in Advanced settings. No wait messages yet
give it time to settle in though. people can't say update is really bad and haven't even ran it for more than an hour yet..lol just saying.
constructive criticism always good. ill vote.
for me, running this update over 2 weeks now, its been running great. battery life improved alot. wifi performance better(for me). no browser ANR or crash in 2 weeks. most graphic heavy games playable now without crashing. overall faster feeling device. no random reboots. I like this build way better than. 21..lmfao
No ANR messages so far (although I've only had the update for a half an hour or so). On 0.21 I would get the wait popup on a regular basis while using the stock browser and other apps such as Engadget. Things seem snappier overall but I think that may be primarily due to the absence of the ANR popup.
Its actually a little weird now, I got so used to reaching towards the screen to cancel the ANR popup and now I don't have to do that at all, I can just keep my hands on the keyboard/trackpad.
Wifi Direct seems to work, lets me connect to my Nexus now, but after its connected though not sure what I can do with it. I looked in File Manager for it but not sure where it would be
Super happy thus far......
went from......
GPS.....V6.9.16 to.......V6.9.20
Bluetooth....V9.27 to......V6.9.29
Wifi....V6.1.1.22 to...........V6.1.1.24
Kernel.....2.6.39.4-00003-g12de84f [email protected]#1 to.....2.6.39.4 [email protected]#1
Not much improvement
2x Stock Browser ANR in the 15min. Following update and a factory reset. Just sayin'
roofy said:
2x Stock Browser ANR in the 15min. Following update and a factory reset. Just sayin'
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Did you reboot? Do that so the update 'settles'.
roofy said:
2x Stock Browser ANR in the 15min. Following update and a factory reset. Just sayin'
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Troll much? I mean seriously this is your first post.
Been using the update for about 2 hours. Had one ANR while setting up face unlock, but since then it has been phenomenal. All games play now, couldn't play shadowgun, riptide or dead space before. Web browsing is incredibly smooth. Haven't done wifi tests yet, but I can tell that it has improved. Very happy with the update.
Face unlock is stupid....
Suprisingly wifi has improved for me too.
I tested right before the ota on a fresh boot and right after in the same spot
Averages Before (On a 18mbit up/down connection):
Download: 2mbps
Upload: 3mbps
After:
Download: 5mbps
Upload: 7mbps
I am VERY happy with this ota.
Download went well, but I could tell that there was major upgrade in firmware just when putting in my password. WiFi is much better, website pop open. The web moves faster then on mine laptop. I like it! Please do make sure to reboot or do a soft reboot before running with it, you will notice the difference.
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2x Stock Browser ANR in the 15min. Following update and a factory reset. Just sayin'
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Really glad you signed up, for that single post!
I just want to say that it's nice to see that Asus, in spite of the fact that they've since released the TF300 and will soon be releasing the Prime Infinity, are still working to improve the Transformer Prime, and haven't given up on it!
I, for one, appreciate their efforts!
My Prime has been very stable before the update, and I've had no complaints about wifi. I don't really use GPS on my Prime, using my car's GPS and my Thunderbolt much more often.
The one issue I have is the task manager will on occasion give me a "Task Manager has Quit" message, or something to that effect. Hopefully, that'll be resolved, but again, it only happens maybe once every three, four days.
I do like the face unlock feature, and the ability to show stats after locking the status bar at the bottom is a nice touch, if slightly unnecessary. My battery life has never been a problem, as I generally have over 40% in the evening, even after heavy use. I always charge it when I go to sleep.
I do hope that this update solves issues that I realize other people have been having.
ShelW said:
Really glad you signed up, for that single post!
I just want to say that it's nice to see that Asus, in spite of the fact that they've since released the TF300 and will soon be releasing the Prime Infinity, are still working to improve the Transformer Prime, and haven't given up on it!
I, for one, appreciate their efforts!
My Prime has been very stable before the update, and I've had no complaints about wifi. I don't really use GPS on my Prime, using my car's GPS and my Thunderbolt much more often.
The one issue I have is the task manager will on occasion give me a "Task Manager has Quit" message, or something to that effect. Hopefully, that'll be resolved, but again, it only happens maybe once every three, four days.
I do like the face unlock feature, and the ability to show stats after locking the status bar at the bottom is a nice touch, if slightly unnecessary. My battery life has never been a problem, as I generally have over 40% in the evening, even after heavy use. I always charge it when I go to sleep.
I do hope that this update solves issues that I realize other people have been having.
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yeah, Asus task manager has been buggy since the beginning. it looks like they trying to improve it though. or at least its looks..lol
Installed update, rebooted after the first boot, as mentioned a couple of times. Restored root with Rootkeeper. Had 2 ANR in the space of one minute while trying to load www.hotnews.ro (the desktop version). Chrome doesn't seem to do ANRs, although it also froze for 1-2 seconds a couple of times (and is also definitely more sluggish than the stock browser during page load).
Doing stuff during market updates is much less irritating now, seems to move better overall.
Will keep testing.
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Installed update, rebooted after the first boot, as mentioned a couple of times. Restored root with Rootkeeper. Had 2 ANR in the space of one minute while trying to load www.hotnews.ro (the desktop version). Chrome doesn't seem to do ANRs, although it also froze for 1-2 seconds a couple of times (and is also definitely more sluggish than the stock browser during page load).
Doing stuff during market updates is much less irritating now, seems to move better overall.
Will keep testing.
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I just tried that site you mentioned. it loaded up fine for me with no problem. no ANR. cool looking news site. too bad I don't understand that language
Can we keep root with OTA root keeper?
Yes we can. Just restored root about two minutes ago.
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I am seeing alot of ANRs with the facebook app. Specifically, it occurs more often and responses slower the further down I scroll; until it reaches a point where the app will no longer respond even after waiting a while. G+ on the other hand seems to be smoother.
I have gotten 1 ANR with chrome, but after waiting it started responding again.
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wifi is better. Over all feel smoother. Tried stock browser still has ANR so I will still use Opera Mobile.
face unlock is neat...now i need to remember my pattern now in case face not working
1) I've heard on numerous occasions that the phone feels rather fragile... however, I'm curious as to whether it feeling fragile attributes to it being fragile. What I mean is, just how 'fragile' is the phone. I was planning on getting a case for the phone ASAP, even ordered one, but I want to know if it's as needed as I think it is. Would a fall from 4 feet or higher crack the screen or cause some internal damage? I ordered a 3 layer ballistic casing for mine, but I'm thinking of getting a screen protector as well. I rarely drop my phone, as I take good care of my phones. My old phone, the HTC Evo Shift 4G, hasn't a crack or chip on it, but it seems that newer phones are breaking rather easily now. Most older models of phones (bulky ones) I've seen don't even have a crack on it, yet a lot of newer ones I see do have at least one.
2) Battery Life: I've heard that the battery life for the S3 out of box has very bad battery life. 9 Hours talk time is rather low, isn't? The HTC One has almost twice that I think? What's up with that? Would you recommend an extended battery to offset this problem? Would I be needing a new case if that would be the case? How long do you guys go on the standard battery? Has rooting helped significantly? I'm no stranger to rooting devices. , as my old phone lasts literally 2 - 3x as long as it used to due to tweaking and optimizations. If you recommend an extended battery, of what size do you recommend?
3) Rooting: I know there are numerous rooting guides, but there's one called "CF-Auto-Root", but it says it keeps it as close to stock as possible. Would it be possible to go from there to flashing ROMs and custom recovery, or should I just try the other more advanced method? Also, how satisfied are you guys about the amount of mods produced by the community? I know my old phone only has a select few ROMs that actually work efficiently, limiting my amount of choices greatly. Do you recommend any ROMs and/or kernels? Do you overclock/underclock your phone, would there be a need to with a phone this powerful?
That is all, thanks in advance!
Hello there mate, The S3 is rather a thin phone, but its all down to the way you treat the phone, I am very heavy handed, but got myself a nice cover/screen protector, and no problems at all, except fingerprints lol
The battery life is very good, ignore what you heard or read from other places, its how you use the phone, basically, I charge the phone overnight, unplug about 7am, have the phone with wifi permanently (and when wifi not available its on HSPDA network), I browse using opera about 2 hours max, text about 50 odd messages a day and the odd call, and my little boy plays the odd game...by 7pm, the phone still has 55-65% battery, the battery is superb, my last androids (galaxy s2, xperia arc) would be down to 30% by 7pm
basically rooting, first download odin, a stock firmware and chainfires stock kernal (read the forums for this), flash the firmware using odin, then chainfires kernal (cant remember if this includes clockwork mod recovery or not - otherwise you will have to add a recovery), once you have recovery installed, you can install custom roms and other kernals.
In my opinion (might not be opinion of others) you really dont need to under or overclock, its a powerful enough phone as it is, the 4.1.2 roms are the most stable roms, 4.2.2 and 4.3 roms are good, but as they are based on leaked roms, not everthing is perfect, but it will be.
The rom situation, there are many roms, my opinion again the best 3 roms (based on 4.1.2 are ultimarom, android revolution HD and omega roms, they offer a big choice on what you can have in your rom.
anyway if you want to know more, just send me a message mate
Has anybody yet attempted to compile the 4.3 Kernel from Source Provided yet (device probably use some slight overclocking and light undervolting)? This device has amazing battery life and runs great. This is coming from somebody who has had 5 qualcomm 800 processor phones and no less than 400 phones (yes Really). Most people that i see with higher end phones use facebook and some other social apps, most of the processors are sitting idle for most people. I guess marketing is good now a days. Millions of people with 600-700 dollar phones with most processor cores times at idle and have no clue.
My wife got a Note 4 and I told her not to since most people have no clue of power/price to actual use/needs on a phone. Well yesterday, we kept running into each other in the house and I kept asking her about her battery percentage until at 3pm she started charging her phone and I told her Im at 70% (while laughing). Well she just ordered a HAM2 today. Yes I know you can get a 10,000Mah brick extension for the "high" end phones but damn. I guess I am getting older and seeing behind the hoopla.
Anyways rant off, but seriously any one look at the code yet. Im downloading it now.
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Has anybody yet attempted to compile the 4.3 Kernel from Source Provided yet (device probably use some slight overclocking and light undervolting)? This device has amazing battery life and runs great. This is coming from somebody who has had 5 qualcomm 800 processor phones and no less than 400 phones (yes Really). Most people that i see with higher end phones use facebook and some other social apps, most of the processors are sitting idle for most people. I guess marketing is good now a days. Millions of people with 600-700 dollar phones with most processor cores times at idle and have no clue.
My wife got a Note 4 and I told her not to since most people have no clue of power/price to actual use/needs on a phone. Well yesterday, we kept running into each other in the house and I kept asking her about her battery percentage until at 3pm she started charging her phone and I told her Im at 70% (while laughing). Well she just ordered a HAM2 today. Yes I know you can get a 10,000Mah brick extension for the "high" end phones but damn. I guess I am getting older and seeing behind the hoopla.
Anyways rant off, but seriously any one look at the code yet. Im downloading it now.
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I use to be one of those "gotta have the latest", until I got tired of rooting, flashing (getting older). I just want to turn it on and USE it.
The mate2, WORKS. As long as the OS is stable, and none of the apps I use requires a newer OS, I'm leaving mine alone.
Coworker went from a LG G2, to a Nexus6 (since sent it back, it was "too big), we set the screen brightness to the same level, installed
the same apps on both devices, then ran them side by side. The N6 "might" have been just a hair quicker at launching apps, but NOT
for more than 2 times the price of the Mate2, not to mention the #2 thing I look for in a device (#1 being STABLE), the HUGE battery life.
His N6, would "just" make it through the day with maybe 5-6% battery left over. My mate2 might "just" make it through THREE days of
battery. The value for money, for the mate2, can't be beat.
Nobody has attempted to because 1) some people, like p51, prefer to leave the phone as is, and 2) the people who do want to modify the phone don't know how.
Supposedly there is a 5.0 update later on, but I'd prefer stock Android. But none of us on here know how to create a ROM.
I believe the rom is a pretty good and stable base. I believe that a kernel will provide the most bang for the buck. Ive ran lollipop on a couple of devices already and unfortunately im not impressed much. What they have rewritten for 5.0 is more centered on tightening up the Google ecosystem, (to make them more reliant on and integrated on google). Google is at a point where they are trying to follow in apples footsteps a bit because it makes sense for them. People have adopted one of two ecosystems and now that they are vested they can simplify and get very accurate metrics from users to sell forwards.
Anyways I may see if i can compile this thing, or i may not depending on boredom level and how bad the original code is.
yah what @scobiSTI said.. You put the piece there and the file over there and take out the 0 over there and boom I end up with a calculator program or something.
Lol let's not forget we are posting on XDA... Which is here FOR developing android for devices...
I can only comment on what people like hashcode did for the kindle fire. I'm glad that leaving well enough was not settled for. Because of development with the kindle fire I still use my first gen to this day. So I have no reason to settle for a phone that just works. Oh, one last thing... For the people commenting here. How many of you are boot loader unlocked and rooted? Just saying.
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I've been unlocked since the release of the phone and Rooted before this thread was made. then @modding.MyMind came around and gave us TWRP! love that guy still!
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I can only comment on what people like hashcode did for the kindle fire. I'm glad that leaving well enough was not settled for. Because of development with the kindle fire I still use my first gen to this day. So I have no reason to settle for a phone that just works. Oh, one last thing... For the people commenting here. How many of you are boot loader unlocked and rooted? Just saying.
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Been bootloader unlocked and rooted since the beginning of this year...and I'm loving it!!
Building the kernel isn't really necessary giving the already seen performance from this device. Could easily be done if you understand how to build from source and know a bit about C. Though typically seen with most custom kernels is a decrease in the battery life due to the more common or favorable features such as juicing up the CPU as a mere example. Plenty of tutorials on how to build from source. Once you get the hang of that you can check out other devs works on github to see what kind of patches they implemented for the purpose of learning, understanding, and applying. I personally find favor in writing scripts more than anything else, or playing around with the TWRP source.
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Has anybody yet attempted to compile the 4.3 Kernel from Source Provided yet (device probably use some slight overclocking and light undervolting)? This device has amazing battery life and runs great. This is coming from somebody who has had 5 qualcomm 800 processor phones and no less than 400 phones (yes Really). Most people that i see with higher end phones use facebook and some other social apps, most of the processors are sitting idle for most people. I guess marketing is good now a days. Millions of people with 600-700 dollar phones with most processor cores times at idle and have no clue.
My wife got a Note 4 and I told her not to since most people have no clue of power/price to actual use/needs on a phone. Well yesterday, we kept running into each other in the house and I kept asking her about her battery percentage until at 3pm she started charging her phone and I told her Im at 70% (while laughing). Well she just ordered a HAM2 today. Yes I know you can get a 10,000Mah brick extension for the "high" end phones but damn. I guess I am getting older and seeing behind the hoopla.
Anyways rant off, but seriously any one look at the code yet. Im downloading it now.
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Exactly. Tired of $100 extra month because of four lines with contracts. Bought my wife note 3 for Xmas. Found one new in box for 450 on swappa. I tend to jump manufacturers each new phone. I plan to stay in the midrange market for the foreseeable future. Only lag I've seen is a little of keyboard lag. Other than that, no bugs or issues yet. And that battery life... First time I haven't charged phone at work in months. I like that it tells me when apps are wasting battery in the background. Great way to eliminate those apps if possible. On my G2 android services was always eating battery.
Looking forward to root just for a couple of specific things. No time these days for ROM flashing.
To fix the keyboard lag, put powersavings to normal instead of smart... 5 minutes projected off battery life was worth it to be able to write faster
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To fix the keyboard lag, put powersavings to normal instead of smart... 5 minutes projected off battery life was worth it to be able to write faster
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Or use Fleksy keyboard which is a super fast tapping keyboard. It works without lag on endurance mode.
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Or use Fleksy keyboard which is a super fast tapping keyboard. It works without lag on endurance mode.
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ok, I'll give that a try... I tried swipe and it was also laggy... will try Flesky.
So i got my s8 a few days ago (yay) and noticed some of its horrendous issues within an hour of usage, so i started looking around for fixes and stumbled upon Eragon (Rom) and have been attempting to get that on to my phone with no luck. I have little to no experience messing around with phones. I followed the guide per Skeleton1911 and can't even get the Vcom driver's working properly. Pretty frustrated and confused at this point and decided to reach out for help/advice. Or any possible alternatives.
What issues are you experiencing that you hope will be solved by this ROM?
I only ask because it might be a hardware issue and therefore a sign to return the phone for a replacement from your vendor while that's still an option.
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What issues are you experiencing that you hope will be solved by this ROM?
I only ask because it might be a hardware issue and therefore a sign to return the phone for a replacement from your vendor while that's still an option.
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4g connectivity seems to be pretty bad/unstable. Battery life is pretty meh. Most if not all of the issue with this phone is pretty much fixed by the Eragon rom hence why I'm trying so hard to get it installed.
the 4g connectivity along with the battery life a very lack luster, which are some of the fixes that come with Eragon.
OK, fair enough. I do understand battery life is improved under Eragon, and OS RAM usage is reduced.
I just read 'horrendous issues' and wondered what that meant exactly, as I've found the battery life on stock to be reasonably OK. The only 'horrendous' issues, in my experience, are the camera and the GPS, neither of which are changed or improved on Eragon. But we all have our personal measurements for such things.
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OK, fair enough. I do understand battery life is improved under Eragon, and OS RAM usage is reduced.
I just read 'horrendous issues' and wondered what that meant exactly, as I've found the battery life on stock to be reasonably OK. The only 'horrendous' issues, in my experience, are the camera and the GPS, neither of which are changed or improved on Eragon. But we all have our personal measurements for such things.
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I can't confirm battery improvement with eragon rom. After a few weeks I had a massive battery drain of about 15% per hour without any heavy usage. The phone was in my pocket with wifi and bluetooth active. I didn't install any new apps and I already I flashed cache and dalvik. The only thing that helped was getting back to stock. Now battery is back to normal and I don't experience any major differences in performance, multitasking or ram usage.
A good example of just how different people's experiences can be, depending on their usage patterns and which set of apps they have installed. Thanks for sharing your experience, Steve.
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A good example of just how different people's experiences can be, depending on their usage patterns and which set of apps they have installed. Thanks for sharing your experience, Steve.
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It seems a matter of luck if you get a full working s8 or not. Maybe there are different builds, depending on where ist was made.
I am using gps from the first day without any problems, no matter if on stock or eragon rom. My s8 just gets warm when playing games but not hot. I think the perfomance is good (no matter which rom) but I would have expected a much higher antutu score from a deca-core chipset and 4gb ram. The battery performance is not better or worse (on stock rom) compared to my earlier smartphones like the oneplus one. I expected the lack of support from the elephone company just as it is, so I am not disappopinted at this point.
I think it's also worth keeping in mind that people are more likely to post when something goes wrong than when something goes as expected, so folks with a defective item are more likely to post complaints than someone who's phone just works.
That being said, I do expect quality control at a third-tier device manufacturer will not be as good as at one of the major players.
And yeah, the big battery is just there to provide adequate battery life despite the huge screen. In my usage, even with the brightness turned down, the screen accounts for 75% of my battery usage on average.
It's a great screen for a cheap phone like this, but it is a trade-off. No such thing as a free lunch.
Finally! Some people are talking sense here and not just complaining about their devices.
For me, I think it's pointless to compare this phone with flagship devices. You can't just say that "on my one plus/galaxy..." because you paid better bucks for those so they got to be damn better!
I have not got any complaints on my device because as I have read on another post here, "You sound set your expectations".
When you bought this, you have a certain use case and if the phone fulfills that, then the phone has already served its purpose.
Please don't expect our units to be top notch as the price won't allow that.
What kind of 4G issue was resolved by this ROM?
Scoundral said:
the 4g connectivity along with the battery life a very lack luster, which are some of the fixes that come with Eragon.
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Can you explain what kind of 4G issues it resolves
After doing some research I found out that the ROM will NOT fix network issues.
Re Oreo
For what it is worth, from the Elephone forum today.
ashish replied at 2018-2-17 03:58 AM
"Plz update the android as almost every compay providing android oreo update but elephone s8 still ha ...
got this on Facebook .
(we do our best to release an oreo update for the S8 as fast as possible. Did you know, that our biggest competitor, that charges 3-4x the price of our S8, just canceled their release of Android 8.0 for their newest device? Google the news Why? Because their update was rushed and released way to early, causing a lot of trouble to many users. Do you want that to happen? We don't. That's why our update will only be released when it's done and can deliver a flawless experience to ALL users of the S8. Therefore we kindly ask for your patience. Have a nice day, your ELEPHONE Team)"
It is true many of the big players have pulled or cancelled their Oreo updates in the last few weeks. Be nice if Ele would try another 7.x update with another attempt to fix the camera though.
I suspect that their dev team has its hands full trying to get everything they got wrong on 7.x right on 8. And I doubt they have the resources to have two teams working on S8 firmware development.
Just my edjumakated guess, mind you. ?
map002 said:
the camera and the GPS, neither of which are changed or improved on Eragon. But we all have our personal measurements for such things.
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so it's normal thing that GPS do't work and camera makes meh photos?
Also, is there an option that phone screen will turn on for a while when I'm receiving a notification? I know there is something like that in android but I couldn't find it. Sorry It's my first android phone and I just feel lost
I did not say the GPS did not work. If your GPS does not work at all, you should return your phone to the shop where you bought it. It's defective.
What I did say is that the GPS isn't great, as is par for the course on Mediatek based phones. If you need great GPS, this is not the phone for you.
Spend more money and buy something better, maybe with a Qualcomm chipset. Or buy a used last-gen flagship phone with good GPS performance.
As for the camera, it's crappy. All the reviews I've seen have pointed out the focus hunting. It's sub par and mostly a problem with the software.
That being said, yes, sub par cameras on cheap Chinese third tier OEM phones do tend to be sub par in one way or another. This one's just notably bad at the moment. Maybe always, if they don't eventually release another firmware for it.
And if this is your first Android phone, I can understand the confusion. Especally if you're coming from fruit phones, where everything just works on pretty much all of them.
This is a terrible first phone for most people. This is a pretty bad device for a novice, it's more of a hobbyist phone. But XDA is a place for that kind of crowd, so my comments were framed accordingly.
I really like it, but I knew what I was buying. I don't use the camera and only make occasional use of the GPS. And I make heavy use of the screen for watching videos and I am not a fan of 18:9. The S8 is a big win for me there.
You probably would have been better served, in this price range, by a Motorola phone, to be honest. If you're still within your exchange window, I would recommend swapping it for something more mainstream.
Best of luck!
matizo said:
... is there an option that phone screen will turn on for a while when I'm receiving a notification? I know there is something like that in android but I couldn't find it. Sorry It's my first android phone and I just feel lost
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.nullgrad.glimpse
Install this and the screen will wake for notifications. You can also disable individual apps, like I did with Spotify, to prevent the screen from waking when listening to music on my Mac.
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Install this and the screen will wake for notifications. You can also disable individual apps, like I did with Spotify, to prevent the screen from waking when listening to music on my Mac.
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Thank you
map002 said:
And if this is your first Android phone, I can understand the confusion. Especally if you're coming from fruit phones, where everything just works on pretty much all of them.
Best of luck!
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I'm not even from apple family. I'm one of old guard of Windows phone, and everyday I'm more and more surprised that android won this competition.
I have no chance for fully refund, since I already own it few months, but I see I need to contact a seller. But I think they'll reject it because I dropped it once, and I have beautiful spider web at back -.- (It's not very sturdy). I think I need to revive my lumia for gps usage.
New to elephone s8 but not new to Chinese smart phones. I was hoping this ROM fixed some issues but hasn't thus far. Phone constantly drops signal to point where i can't receive or make calls. Still trying to figure out if that is due to phone not support on my network or not. Which is odd cause at times phone is fine, flying speed full coverage others its the complete opposite. One other bug I was hoping it fixed was screen being unresponsive. Like i try to swipe up to unlock or use fingerprint but it just vibrates to acknowledge I touched it and does nothing. I am looking for work around before i get fed up and sell it or something. I really love the feel of phone physically and how software works when its working.