What are the real benefits of running ICS on our Sony Tablet S, other tthan smoother UI?
Maine_Coon said:
What are the real benefits of running ICS on our Sony Tablet S, other tthan smoother UI?
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Improvements:
- Mini apps - Use some apps on top of your other running apps.
- Place apps in a folder on your home screen.
- Take screen capture.
- Theme is much more smoother.
- Slide notifications to remove.
- Improved settings menu.
- Cradle option "Choose action" when when you place your tab in dock"
- On lockscreen chose between unclock and use camera.
- Camera is optimized.
- Disabling built-in apps |Hogaburger|
- Google Chrome |Bojanglez|
- and some other little stuff.
Disadvantages:
- Screen flickering ( Sometimes )
- Can't personalize your app menu anymore.
- No face unlock ( but I don't care )
- Still a scratching sound while playing music (I think its a hardware prob.)
- And some more can't remember right now
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Mahaco.
All of the above plus you can run Google Chrome.
The mini apps are really cool, Sony did a good job withn them.
google chrome is sweet, im trying to find more apps that require you to have ICS
Mahaco said:
Improvements:
- Mini apps - Use some apps on top of your other running apps.
- Place apps in a folder on your home screen.
- Take screen capture.
- Theme is much more smoother.
- Slide notifications to remove.
- Improved settings menu.
- Cradle option "Choose action" when when you place your tab in dock"
- On lockscreen chose between unclock and use camera.
- Camera is optimized.
- and some other little stuff.
Disadvantages:
- Screen flickering ( Sometimes )
- Can't personalize your app menu anymore.
- No face unlock ( but I don't care )
- Still a scratching sound while playing music (I think its a hardware prob.)
- And some more can't remember right now
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Mahaco.
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I'd just like to say that the flickering and audio scratching aren't on every tab. Mine is perfect for audio, and the only flickering I get is for like a quarter of a second maybe 2 times per day... and that's only when launching a game or something so it's not like it happens while I'm in the middle of something.
Also, more advantages:
-the ability to slide to remove the recent apps (also clears from memory).
-Able to play files directly from SD card **PLUS** this works a million times better now!!! I was previously taking my tab with loads of episodes of family guy on it to work everyday. I was having constant problems with audio and video stuttering or even not starting at all. Now it just instantly loads and plays perfectly.
-keyboard input lag is gone (one of the best improvements in my opinion. I nearly destroyed the tab 100 times from trying to respond to emails and it taking forever)
I was actually going to buy the ASUS transformer prime as soon as it became available... but after this update I'll definitely be able to hold out for the next sony one now. I also love the calculator lol. I strangely find myself needing a calculator while I'm in the middle of an app ALL the time...but that's probably just me lol.
MarkB709 said:
I'd just like to say that the flickering and audio scratching aren't on every tab. Mine is perfect for audio, and the only flickering I get is for like a quarter of a second maybe 2 times per day... and that's only when launching a game or something so it's not like it happens while I'm in the middle of something.
Also, more advantages:
-the ability to slide to remove the recent apps (also clears from memory).
-Able to play files directly from SD card **PLUS** this works a million times better now!!! I was previously taking my tab with loads of episodes of family guy on it to work everyday. I was having constant problems with audio and video stuttering or even not starting at all. Now it just instantly loads and plays perfectly.
-keyboard input lag is gone (one of the best improvements in my opinion. I nearly destroyed the tab 100 times from trying to respond to emails and it taking forever)
I was actually going to buy the ASUS transformer prime as soon as it became available... but after this update I'll definitely be able to hold out for the next sony one now. I also love the calculator lol. I strangely find myself needing a calculator while I'm in the middle of an app ALL the time...but that's probably just me lol.
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Yes thats correct the flickering doesnt happens that often and its not a problem for me i dont care and this tablet thats my opinion is not a good music player
And +1 for the your calculator info lol
its not just "smoother UI", thats really not doing it justice.... its night and day in terms of 'snappiness' and finally comes close to the fruit shop experience. ALso no more stupid homescreen crashing/reloading all the time
at least I'm going with what ICS did to my Tegra2 Atrix phone lol so expecting similar boost
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its not just "smoother UI", thats really not doing it justice.... its night and day in terms of 'snappiness' and finally comes close to the fruit shop experience. ALso no more stupid homescreen crashing/reloading all the time
at least I'm going with what ICS did to my Tegra2 Atrix phone lol so expecting similar boost
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yeah and have anyone notice the time difference when you turn the tablet on, its quite fast booting up but its not a big difference just like a small one..
expendable memory. I now have additional 32GB to store video, photo, and music to my 16GB tablet. and it works great! I rooted my tablet before to get this feature. now, it's there without root and it works even better!
native screen shot function!
Disabling built-in apps is a great feature too. Reallllly loving this Google Chrome beta. So long, stock browser.
ICS Nyandroid (Easter Egg)
Go into Settings, About Tablet, then repeatedly tap on Android Version and eventually a mini Nyandroid will appear.
Cat McGowan said:
Go into Settings, About Tablet, then repeatedly tap on Android Version and eventually a mini Nyandroid will appear.
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are u kidding me post Questions or helpfull/usefull posts
I've got myself a little easteregg for u, long press on power button,
Tell us wat happens to your tab Share your experience.
Do we have app2sd now?
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Cat McGowan said:
Go into Settings, About Tablet, then repeatedly tap on Android Version and eventually a mini Nyandroid will appear.
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Although Mahaco's right that this probably isn't the best place for this, this easter egg has been in Android since roughly 2.1 (I think) with new artwork for each version. HC gave you the HC Bee (with a BZZZZZZZ... Toast), Gingerbread gave you a weird Gingerbread Man Zombie painting by an Artist (whose name is in the Toast). This can actually be swapped since it's located somewhere (I've forgotten where) in the framework-res.
Also, for those wondering about the "smoother UI", it is a whole level better since the Android System is now Hardware Accelerated in official ICS updates. This means the UI is able to fully leverage the power of the ULP GeForce graphics chip in the Sony.
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Ive noticed this sinse ive bought the phone but i cant see why it lags so much on the simple task ie. when on the home screen it stutters when scrolling through the home panels ( i do have quite a bit of widgets but that shouldnt make a diffrence ) the browser on the other hand is fine? . One other thing ive noticed is that the camera takes quite a bit of time to take to picture and ready itself for a next one? the pictures still look amazing but my freind has a single core desire hd which has the same results instantly? Is there a fix to this in a rom or such im currently running a stock rom which has had the mods so that it doesnt lag?
Possibly bloatware? Try going into the privacy & security settings and do a factory wipe + usb wipe as well. If you bought the phone from carrier, this should hopefully remove all the carrier bloatware apps. If they are still there, then that means the bloatware is built into the ROM and you can't get rid of it without rooting and a custom ROM.
anyway there is absolutely no reason why the phone should be sluggish at the home screen. The stock touchwiz is already the smoothest stock launcher out there imo
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dav08094194 said:
Ive noticed this sinse ive bought the phone but i cant see why it lags so much on the simple task ie. when on the home screen it stutters when scrolling through the home panels ( i do have quite a bit of widgets but that shouldnt make a diffrence ) the browser on the other hand is fine? . One other thing ive noticed is that the camera takes quite a bit of time to take to picture and ready itself for a next one? the pictures still look amazing but my freind has a single core desire hd which has the same results instantly? Is there a fix to this in a rom or such im currently running a stock rom which has had the mods so that it doesnt lag?
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The lag most prob is to do with having lots of Widgets remove them and see if it makes it better.
Not noticed a delay with the camera app tbh might be to do with the focus options, you could mess about with the see if it speeds it up.
Yeah having too many widgets might be one factor, personally ive no lag whatsoever.
how do you have your phone set up so i can use the same rom as you etc.?
Bro we hav same prob but mine even worse..item age:1week(without root),1widgets, was downloaded 15 application from Android Market(Antivirus Free,Quadrant Standard,Fruit Ninja,Battery Indicator..etc).RAM status frequently maximum 355MB in use after clear 248-258MB. Setting Power Saving Mode. Rate with Quadrant Standard 3107point. The Main problem are 1)DELAY-(when open application such as clock, calendar, calculator,downloads,message inbox... average delaying 3-4sec), 2)LAGGING-(sometimes open gallery delay up-to 18sec, Playing Third Blade with delay performance, sometimes no response), 3)FORCE CLOSE-(When open new tab with Internet Browser, No Response while Playing certain Market Games-Task Manager status took-off all processing speed.Half Playing of Fruit Ninja, no response, auto jump to main menu...Somehow no solution to fix it....
Hi OP i have the same problem with the camera lag as well....recently ive notice a distinctly longer waiting period for the photo to save before the next shot is ready. anyway i thought it was my imagination until i compared it with my friend's S2 - which was lightning fast when processed.
If anyone have ideas on how to rectify the issue that would be really great!
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Bro we hav same prob but mine even worse..item age:1week(without root),1widgets, was downloaded 15 application from Android Market(Antivirus Free,Quadrant Standard,Fruit Ninja,Battery Indicator..etc).RAM status frequently maximum 355MB in use after clear 248-258MB. Setting Power Saving Mode. Rate with Quadrant Standard 3107point. The Main problem are 1)DELAY-(when open application such as clock, calendar, calculator,downloads,message inbox... average delaying 3-4sec), 2)LAGGING-(sometimes open gallery delay up-to 18sec, Playing Third Blade with delay performance, sometimes no response), 3)FORCE CLOSE-(When open new tab with Internet Browser, No Response while Playing certain Market Games-Task Manager status took-off all processing speed.Half Playing of Fruit Ninja, no response, auto jump to main menu...Somehow no solution to fix it....
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You have power saving mode activated? Then turn it off!
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hi man
i had this weird thing with my sgs2 it was laging alot
but the proplem was with the clock widgets when i removed them the phone was smooth !
just try that it might work with like it did on mine
Those of us who are too scared or just lacking in skills to upgrade ROMs and have the OTA ICS, probably should have had it for a few days now. I was wondering what people were making of it, good bad?
I would say that for me by far the best thing is the Launcher (I think I have described it correctly) Replacing the excessviely large "phone" button and the very rarely used after you have got your phone set up "personalise" button with 4 customisable ones is fantastic (I know that other launchers offer this but I tried them and always prefered to stay with sense)
I was insensed when I used the Quick Settings and coudln't see settings there, I even went as far as to place a shortcut on my deesktop, only to see that they have hidden it as the small grey and white symbol, lol!
I would say that it seems to be somehow even worse on battery useage, although not by much and I haven't propperly obseved it yet.
Apart from that I haven't really noticed any major changes aside from teh removal of the pwer saver settings, I have installed an app that allows access but can't see how to change when it is activated.
Here's a thread where it's already being discussed:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1732984
Crackly sound in 'temple run' and other games/apps in the official OTA ?
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Here's a thread where it's already being discussed:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1732984
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But that thread is nearly entirely about installing without losing root etc, I was wondering more about peoples experiences of actaully using ICS.
Ics sucks.big time.i really regret updating.
Cons
I cant use screen filter app to turn off the soft keys.the irritatin soft keys wont turn off any more.the resultant light leakage at the base just makes me angry.
3d video playback isnt as smooth as it used to be.it stutters very minutely.took the fun out of watchin 3d movies on the phone.
Previously i was able to play 1080p mkv via dice player without any hiccup.now there are hiccups.
The stock video player is crappy as usual.
No burst mode or takin stills while recording in camera.
Asphalt 6 doesnt work on 3d any more.
Srs doesnt work on music player.
So no real improvements for me here except for the changed settings menu and a bit smoother transaction animations.its like htc was purposefully makin it worse to make people change the phone.
I wish i didnt update.i wish i could downgrade :'(
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By softkeys I assume you mean the capacitive buttons? If so try Keyboard Backlight Controller. I didn't give it the rather misleading name. I think you can get it from Play.
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Is this update the same base as the custom ones that have been circling around? Ive been using a custom one for a while, and while it is good, the battery life is making me consider getting a galaxy s3.
Well for me , the ICS is great. I love the new camera app. I have a lot more colors in the pictures. And i love this. The old GB made photos almost black and white even with the saturation on full.
The widgets and the new sense 3.6 i love. Is more customizable. And it really works a lot more smoother the sense 3.
I found till now some bugs. But i don't know where to report them to htc. Can't find the "contact dev team " on they site.... anyway.
Bugs so far:
Widget Power Dashboard , sometimes the animations stay over and i have a wifi icon with 7 bars over it , not 3.
The streaming player is really a disaster. 80% of sites that used to use stream player , now says " Can't load video " Only youtube works. Not even ES Video Player works, the only app that i can use now is Sopcast.
The videos playing on the default browser , are really horrible. In FULL SCREEN MODE in 90% of the cases i can't use any of the players buttons. You just push them , and doesn't work. You have to exit the full screen , push what you need and then go back into full screen.
Sometimes if you try to seek the video a bit further it just ramains Black , the player. The video plays in background , you can hear it , but no image. Only solution to get it back , is to refresh the page. And restart the video. ( strange is that on youtube videos , all this works perfectly , but on any other websites or flash player based videos doesn't)
No more power management
If phone is unde 5% battery and you put it on charge. The screen will keep turning of after 30 seconds till the phone passes 10-15% battery , and then get's back to 1 minute timeout screen.
Edit :
Onavo Extended doesn't work.
Onavo says " Are you running an official ROM of ICS for your device?
In any case, It seems that your device uses a ROM that is missing important networking support that Android 4.0 APIs and Onavo Extend rely on. Android OS upgrade should fix the problem. Also, if you manually installed the ROM yourself, trying a different ROM should fix the problem.
We are compiling a list of supported ROMs and plan to publish it in the near future. We will keep you posted.
We truly apologize for the inconvenience and hope that you will be able to enjoy Onavo Extend benefits soon enough. "
I like the ICS update.
1. Battery longer lasting.
2. My screen brightness is much higher.
3. Phone is much more responsive.
4. 3D rendering seems much easier.
dnslammers said:
I like the ICS update.
1. Battery longer lasting.
2. My screen brightness is much higher.
3. Phone is much more responsive.
4. 3D rendering seems much easier.
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I agree with you. And some apps just work great on ics.
I also love that music player , that they put a volume button . And that if you press the volume key , you can then slide with your finder the volume from the screen. Also , the mails are more responsive. Usually they had a delay of about 15-60 seconds. Now sometimes are instant. So an improvement .
And i love the new Folders. Are sooo usefull now.
The task manager from the ics is also great. ( pressed home key )
Oh , and the youtube new app , is great. It even has a Live category where you can watch Live shows. Great.
The new gallery is a bit improved and more hansom .
dnslammers said:
I like the ICS update.
1. Battery longer lasting.
2. My screen brightness is much higher.
3. Phone is much more responsive.
4. 3D rendering seems much easier.
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long lasting?... compared to stock gb?or custom rom?? ....and one most important thing I hopeyou could shed light with is the performance of the new htc cam app... is it more responsive?? as in the shutter speed... how long before the click after the press.... hope you can elaborate more on this...
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long lasting?... compared to stock gb?or custom rom?? ....and one most important thing I hopeyou could shed light with is the performance of the new htc cam app... is it more responsive?? as in the shutter speed... how long before the click after the press.... hope you can elaborate more on this...
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The camera Shutter Speed , is almost the same. No improvement there.
Last longer compared to GB , cause now for navigating trough the menu doesn't use that much CPU anymore. But uses GPU with a bit of cpu (if needed) , and this increases the battery life.
An exemple: with tha battery at 20% i can now read news , navigate the web , watch some videos ( no games ) for almost 2 hours.
Compared to GB where when the battery reaches 20% was like saying "battery depleted" couse in max 20 minutes the battery was almost empty.
Don't know if it was just me or....
From 20% to 0% how much take's you?
unstoppable_punk_brainiac said:
The camera Shutter Speed , is almost the same. No improvement there.
Last longer compared to GB , cause now for navigating trough the menu doesn't use that much CPU anymore. But uses GPU with a bit of cpu (if needed) , and this increases the battery life.
An exemple: with tha battery at 20% i can now read news , navigate the web , watch some videos ( no games ) for almost 2 hours.
Compared to GB where when the battery reaches 20% was like saying "battery depleted" couse in max 20 minutes the battery was almost empty.
Don't know if it was just me or....
From 20% to 0% how much take's you?
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thanks dude, shutter speed really sucks... custom roms have not make much improvements on this too... i agree with you on gb battery life... main reason i root my phone....
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I've updated today, and now the 3D doesn't seem to be working - this happened once before and a reboot resolved it, but that has not worked this time round.
Any pointers? Basically, the 3D "eyes" are generating a cross-eyed image on screen, playback has the right image showing from the left & vice versa, camera use just generates blurry 2D images.
other than that, the ICS update seems very good - start up is a lot quicker, and all the Google apps seem to have been aesthetically improved. "More Tron like" as somebody said to me.
I got the ICS+Sense 3.6 update and I'm enjoying it so far. It's all stock since I bought (no custom ROM or root, as I haven't saw the necessity of this).
So much sleeker and faster than 3.0!
Had a problem with the spell correction but after playing with the settings it normalized. Apart from the default SMS "Messages" app, where it'll underline in red all the words that aren't English [my mother language is Brazilian Portuguese, I use the phone in English and the keyboard in Portuguese] - but I'm not sure if this problem is new with this update lol.
I like how I can disable stock apps now, I could disable all the bloatware and take away many apps I don't use from the app drawer.
(Immediately disabled Google+, take that Google! haha)
Also, it solved a bug where the phone would think it was with the headphones plugged-in which made it stop doing any sounds through its speaker: if you stopped the music using the physical play/pause button in the headphones and unplug them while the device in sleep mode (screen turned off) that would happen and there would be no ringtone or alarm sounds until I played a media sound manually for it to recognize the headphones aren't there anymore. :good:
The Music app got a queue feature where we can select which songs to play next, like a playlist you build in real time. That's everything I was looking for in the music player!!
The new HTC Notes app is very good and comparable to the one I'm using, Handrite. I'll be testing the new one, the difference being Handrite has dedicated buttons to quickly copy, paste, undo, redo and more text/trace/paper formatting settings..., and more widget sizes to choose. While HTC Notes let you to sync with Evernote and record sound into your notes, I don't really dig into this idea so it's a matter of personal needs.
What I don't like about it:
HTC:
- There's no direct Wi-fi toggle in the notifications bar anymore, I don't understand why HTC would remove it.
- The album art in the Music app appears smaller, I wish there was some sort of configuration...
ICS:
- The setting for entirely disabling background data doesn't exist anymore. :/
- There's no way to set ringtone and notification sound volume separately.
These are my impressions so far.
I might send some e-mails to HTC regarding these issues. It seems they value user feedback as they have a wonderful customer support service.
Got the OTA update to L on my 6833. Yes, it has made the already smooth animation slightly smoother but otherwise what is there? The power widgets are gone, I had to install third party Power Toggles app. The new notification swipe down is annoying, having to swipe up when waking device is annoying. The status bar colors are inconsistent. The menus look childish looking.
Without being dramatic, did Sony take all this time to make sure it ran without crashing? Because I notice very few changes (not even improvements, just any changes) on the UI. I must be missing something.
more than that:
can only set one volume at a time.
either portrait or auto, you can't force landscape like in KK.
animations are fluid, but the functionality isn't. My opinion is, if the device has extra power that it can use to make things animate, slide and fade all over the place, better to put that extra power into making the device perform faster. Anyone here who prefers prettier animations instead of faster functionality?
low resolution screenshots in the recents screen. wat. Seriously... wat? Also, the way they've made it it is faster to just go to the apps screen and open whatever app i want, instead of waiting for the recents screen to load and then scroll awkwardly through the programs... Also, you can only see three recent apps. On a device with 6" of screen. three. think about it.
Also... what is the point of having screenshots, anyway? icons are faster, easier to distinguish, take fewer resources and smaller area on screen.
I agree fully on the recent apps screenshots. The blurry images are embarrassing and don't at all go with the clean/sharp theme of everything else. I don't understand why they've made it low res, can't be for performance given no restraint or need anywhere else. Bizarre!
There is over-prettying. For example, the stupid screen swipe up to unlock (after hitting the power button already), the sparkles are just so unnecessary, it is one of the few places the phone actually seems to struggle pulling off the effect.
At the moment my biggest problem is with Yahoo Mail. The account does not seem to auto-sync despite all the settings being correct and even when I force the sync manually the notifications don't show. I've uninstalled and reinstalled, most likely Yahoo to blame, their webmail is always breaking but never ever had a single issue before with KK. This is problematic because it is effectively no longer push email, I have to manually check 50 times a day.
My biggest annoyance is the inability to reclaim the Google search bar area in the Home Screen. I don't want that search button, why can't I use that space, and why a stupid dot to represent the pages of the Homescreen when I only have 1.
Is there actually anything different/new on the backend? My issues aren't severe enough to go back to KK (yet) but seeing what I see, I would have no problem whatsoever buying an Xperia Sony will not upgrade beyond KK.
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Got the OTA update to L on my 6833. Yes, it has made the already smooth animation slightly smoother but otherwise what is there? The power widgets are gone, I had to install third party Power Toggles app. The new notification swipe down is annoying, having to swipe up when waking device is annoying. The status bar colors are inconsistent. The menus look childish looking.
Without being dramatic, did Sony take all this time to make sure it ran without crashing? Because I notice very few changes (not even improvements, just any changes) on the UI. I must be missing something.
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I agree with you about small changes. I even face some strange problems in my WiFi. the mac address haven't change, but I can't connect to my work WiFi protected network. Sometimes it connects in limited status. One of my friends which updated his Ultra has this problem too.I could connect it to my laptop adhoc wifi netwrok, but for one time. it even can't connect to that network anymore. I rolled back to my stock 14.4.A.0.133 backup. and a'm waiting to fixes from sony.
Agree with you guys. And that stock greenish blueish greyish statusbar color pisses me off! Anybody knows how to change that color?
Quite pathetic attempt by a mod to bury this thread by moving it to this section. If negative feedback on L bothers you so much, delete the thread and censor it outright. Sad day for xda.
So here are the issues I've found since last week that I've had the phone:
-Autobrightness even if autobrightness is off: The screen dims when opening certain apps. I remember this happening to my old Mate 10, and it hasn't been fixed yet, because Huawei considers this a feature, while it's something so annoying.
-Bluetooth audio not sync: The normal behaviour in any other phone is to control the volume of media with the Bluetooth headphones, but with the Mate 20 Pro it's independent, so you have to adjust 2 volumes.
-Unwanted notifications: You can't get rid of the "displaying over other apps" unless you have a third-party app running in the background, and probably causing you some other issues.
-Unwanted status bar icons: now, with the notch, there's so little space for app's icons, so it would be great if we could remove useless icons (they'll be useful or useless depending on which person) like the alarm clock icon, the silent mode icon... to give more space to other apps that can be more useful.
-No IA Video, no portrait lightning: some phones come with the 108 update, an OTA needs to come (it came yesterday for some phones), to enable all the functionality.
100%. Love the thread...good idea!
To those posting here...it'd be a GREAT help to other M20P users or prospective buyers if your CONFIRMED software issue has been patched or resolved after a manual reboot or software update.
As for anyone else who reads this and agrees. GO ON FACEBOOK, TWITTER + OTHER FORUMS FORUMS AND THEIR WEBSITE and demand they be fixed for the excessively priced premium flagship!
RoOSTA
I liked to add if you use YouTube Premium with gesture more enabled, you no longer have picture in picture.
Just background audio playing.
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Want to add my two cents:
The Mate 20 phones introduces a new swiping navigation system that is very very similar to Xiaomis implementation.
After using iPhone X I do find traditional Android buttons outdated and waste of screen space so I like huaweis swiping alot.
BUT while swiping works great on stock emui, it doesn't work well with Nova launcher. Whenever I have Nova installed the swipe up to go home animation becomes jerky and unpleasant. So basically my dilemma has been to choose between huaweis awesome swipe gestures but put up with emui's tacky icons and outdated app tray and stupid iOS ripoff system wide search menu whenever I swipe down, or use Nova and be forced to go back to on screen buttons.
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Want to add my two cents:
The Mate 20 phones introduces a new swiping navigation system that is very very similar to Xiaomis implementation.
After using iPhone X I do find traditional Android buttons outdated and waste of screen space so I like huaweis swiping alot.
BUT while swiping works great on stock emui, it doesn't work well with Nova launcher. Whenever I have Nova installed the swipe up to go home animation becomes jerky and unpleasant. So basically my dilemma has been to choose between huaweis awesome swipe gestures but put up with emui's tacky icons and outdated app tray and stupid iOS ripoff system wide search menu whenever I swipe down, or use Nova and be forced to go back to on screen buttons.
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I've had the phone for 1hr, and I'm really disappointed. Not a fan of the vibration motor in this phone.
I agree, EMUI feels like IOS in some areas. I'm really not a fan of some aspects, like the notification area.
Also had the phone for just over an hour. Not impressed at all. Huawei phone clone didn't work, taking at least 5 minutes to update each app and still going, setting a picture as screen saver from Google photos can put it blurry. Coming from an HTC u12 I'm very disappointed so far. Haven't even got around to diving into anything else yet but the set up is a chore
Interesting, this process is really easy on the P20 Pro
I have problem with video camera function.
It seem the stand 1x zoom is very big. And if i zoom out to 0.6x the video image is very blurry.
Can someone check wheter they have the same problem.
I got mine today and I found a couple of issues.
First of all, there is no sound equaliser at all. This means having to download a third party one, which lowers the overall volume. By default, a flat EQ on this device rounds very tinny with muddy lows.
I got around this by downloading Equalizer Pro and playing with it for like an hour.
The other issue is much worse for me. If you set the display scaling in Developer options to anything higher than its default (423 I believe), the general device scaling is great (For example, I set it to 550 and the settings app looks lovely) however the notifications and screen popups become HUGE. To the point where they are physically overlapping off of the screen. Then when restarting the phone it resets again to 423. This also forces widgets in other launchers (such as Nova) to completely disappear, meaning you have to remove and re-add them.
I'm not very happy at the moment. Any ideas would be great. Unfortunately I don't want to root anything otherwise Ill end up losing my mobile banking apps etc (and the previous experience I've had with Magisk has been grotesque)...
Jack
I cannot connect to 5Ghz wifi networks.
jackdowsonuk said:
I got mine today and I found a couple of issues.
First of all, there is no sound equaliser at all. This means having to download a third party one, which lowers the overall volume. By default, a flat EQ on this device rounds very tinny with muddy lows.
I got around this by downloading Equalizer Pro and playing with it for like an hour.
The other issue is much worse for me. If you set the display scaling in Developer options to anything higher than its default (423 I believe), the general device scaling is great (For example, I set it to 550 and the settings app looks lovely) however the notifications and screen popups become HUGE. To the point where they are physically overlapping off of the screen. Then when restarting the phone it resets again to 423. This also forces widgets in other launchers (such as Nova) to completely disappear, meaning you have to remove and re-add them.
I'm not very happy at the moment. Any ideas would be great. Unfortunately I don't want to root anything otherwise Ill end up losing my mobile banking apps etc (and the previous experience I've had with Magisk has been grotesque)...
Jack
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Hi. I found a sound equaliser under settings - sound - Dolby Atmos
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Hi. I found a sound equaliser under settings - sound - Dolby Atmos
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Hey thanks for the reply.
The Dolby Atmos EQ is only available for built-in speaker and is disabled for Bluetooth devices.
-Jack
got mine today from O2. On build 108 and I have th elack of AI video options.
No problems migrating from my other phone, just chose to restore from cloud backup via google account, didn't mess around wth Phone Clone.
Connects to a 5ghz wifi network (TalkTalk new style router which I think may be a Huawei as well) without any issues, getting around 43mb throughput on the downstream which given I only max at around 53 on a wired connection to my laptop is more than acceptable.
Havent bothered messing around with launchers, just chose a nicer theme which also skinned (most of) the icons.
Swipe gesture are put of Android Pie I believe rather than being EMUI specific (although there are some extra ones)
panman1964 said:
got mine today from O2. On build 108 and I have th elack of AI video options.
No problems migrating from my other phone, just chose to restore from cloud backup via google account, didn't mess around wth Phone Clone.
Connects to a 5ghz wifi network (TalkTalk new style router which I think may be a Huawei as well) without any issues, getting around 43mb throughput on the downstream which given I only max at around 53 on a wired connection to my laptop is more than acceptable.
Havent bothered messing around with launchers, just chose a nicer theme which also skinned (most of) the icons.
Swipe gesture are put of Android Pie I believe rather than being EMUI specific (although there are some extra ones)
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Is your phone single sim and did it come with a case? Getting mine from O2 tomorrow
Frontfiringspeakers said:
Is your phone single sim and did it come with a case? Getting mine from O2 tomorrow
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Single SIM, No Case.
TBH I don't know why Huawei (or other manufacturers bother with a Dual & Single SIM version of the same device.
Cant be that much difference in the cost price of the hardware and especially when like the Mate 20 Pro the SIM tray is either Single SIM + NM or Dual Sim with the option of using a NM card instead of a SIM in slot 2
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Actually not so much of an issue but an observation (and it may be common to other devices with curved edges) and it may simply be that it's something new for me.
When using the keyboard its mildly annoying when some of the characters at the extreme edges disappear over the curve.
Again it may be just because I'm not used to it yet
You'll want to try and get .122 firmware on that as soon as possible. 108 was stable for me but was missing some functions (AI video, Google Pay, and a few other bits) that 122 (rumoured to be final fw) has. Enjoy!
My main problem is most 3rd party launchers don't work and there's still some bloat you can't uninstall/disable.
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Wiggz said:
You'll want to try and get .122 firmware on that as soon as possible. 108 was stable for me but was missing some functions (AI video, Google Pay, and a few other bits) that 122 (rumoured to be final fw) has. Enjoy!
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Got mine from Vodafone UK today. Still on 108
Wiggz said:
You'll want to try and get .122 firmware on that as soon as possible. 108 was stable for me but was missing some functions (AI video, Google Pay, and a few other bits) that 122 (rumoured to be final fw) has. Enjoy!
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Would love too go and get it... If I could ;O)
There are firmwares "around" you can download, stick on a nano or USB via OTG and boot from to flash.
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There are firmwares "around" you can download, stick on a nano or USB via OTG and boot from to flash.
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Sounds like I may have to go looking then .... now wheres the best starting place I wonder
So here's a ROM that i would recommend even tho it's in beta Corvus OS it's android 12 and everything works even the Camera but sadly not the greatness of Sony's Camera app...i personally haven't tried it with the Custom Kernel Kirisakura just yet but i will and report back on here if they place nice together...Magisk also works great with this ROM you just have to be careful what you flash...
Hopefully our device will be fully supported soon.
Just putting down some thoughts here.
Double tap to wake is borked, the setting already hints that it is unlikely to work and I can confirm this.
Forcing native res works rather poorly. On reboot I need to reset the dpi to make the GUI play nice, but some things remain iffy. Such as:
Gesture navigation still thinks preview windows should be the lower res, not native (looks poor, see attached images)
Some random visual glitches that cause a silent crash + restore, it's not critical but you can see it happening
No built-in battery health (as in limiting it), have to use something external (AccA)
Camera quality is way worse compared to stock. I don't mind as much as I don't care a lot, but quality regression is very significant (if I have to quantify it, I would accept 20-30%, but this feels more like 60%)
The GCAM's I've found that don't immediately crash (not many) all have serious bugs
No camera app found that plays nice with front camera, hope you weren't planning on taking pictures with the front camera
Edit: For 6 you can actually use the native app. Performance is super bad though.
To not sound too much like a downer I'll also put in some "niceties" compared to stock.
Holding volume button to seek is now native
OTA work again
Good visual eyecandy for charging, locking and more
No bloatware galore
Much much finer control over lots of little things, especially status bar is very nice
Other things:
The default launcher is a bit lacking, so I installed Nova 7, but this still has some shenanigans with force reloading and short unresponsiveness with gesture navigation. Very annoying, but I'm quite sure this is not the fault of the ROM. Just hoped this was improved (suggestions welcome)
If someone found a good GCAM please share, the ones I've found are either broken or seriously lacking.
It seems that sometimes the phone does not respond to my finger until I press the button. This could be intentional to prevent accidental unlocks / phone being locked for X seconds because lots of "bad" fingerprints detected.
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Just putting down some thoughts here.
Double tap to wake is borked, the setting already hints that it is unlikely to work and I can confirm this.
Forcing native res works rather poorly. On reboot I need to reset the dpi to make the GUI play nice, but some things remain iffy. Such as:
Gesture navigation still thinks preview windows should be the lower res, not native (looks poor, see attached images)
Some random visual glitches that cause a silent crash + restore, it's not critical but you can see it happening
No built-in battery health (as in limiting it), have to use something external (AccA)
Camera quality is way worse compared to stock. I don't mind as much as I don't care a lot, but quality regression is very significant (if I have to quantify it, I would accept 20-30%, but this feels more like 60%)
The GCAM's I've found that don't immediately crash (not many) all have serious bugs
No camera app found that plays nice with front camera, hope you weren't planning on taking pictures with the front camera
Edit: For 6 you can actually use the native app. Performance is super bad though.
To not sound too much like a downer I'll also put in some "niceties" compared to stock.
Holding volume button to seek is now native
OTA work again
Good visual eyecandy for charging, locking and more
No bloatware galore
Much much finer control over lots of little things, especially status bar is very nice
Other things:
The default launcher is a bit lacking, so I installed Nova 7, but this still has some shenanigans with force reloading and short unresponsiveness with gesture navigation. Very annoying, but I'm quite sure this is not the fault of the ROM. Just hoped this was improved (suggestions welcome)
If someone found a good GCAM please share, the ones I've found are either broken or seriously lacking.
It seems that sometimes the phone does not respond to my finger until I press the button. This could be intentional to prevent accidental unlocks / phone being locked for X seconds because lots of "bad" fingerprints detected.
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Yeah this is the only ROM that i found that legit decided to be custom and not just copy/pasta of Pixel Experience without the GCAM and a different name.....for what I use my phone for it's 100% functional...but it's far from being perfect for everyone rn...
Ainz_Ooal_Gown said:
Yeah this is the only ROM that i found that legit decided to be custom and not just copy/pasta of Pixel Experience without the GCAM and a different name.....for what I use my phone for it's 100% functional...but it's far from being perfect for everyone rn...
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Yeah, this is why I've been very hesitant to install to install GSI ROMs, all the issues I've mentioned are because the X1 III is not the same as most other devices.
Wake to tap? Device specific thing.
Native res issues? X1III specific.
No built in battery health? Not device specific, devs pls
Camera issues? Device specific.
I think I'll drop the higher res as that will remove the most jarring of issues. The camera is whatever as it will not improve by switching to PE and double tap to wake is meh. Annoying at worst.
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Yeah, this is why I've been very hesitant to install to install GSI ROMs, all the issues I've mentioned are because the X1 III is not the same as most other devices.
Wake to tap? Device specific thing.
Native res issues? X1III specific.
No built in battery health? Not device specific, devs pls
Camera issues? Device specific.
I think I'll drop the higher res as that will remove the most jarring of issues. The camera is whatever as it will not improve by switching to PE and double tap to wake is meh. Annoying at worst.
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True that...but hey it's there Incase people get bored lol
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Just putting down some thoughts here.
Double tap to wake is borked, the setting already hints that it is unlikely to work and I can confirm this.
Forcing native res works rather poorly. On reboot I need to reset the dpi to make the GUI play nice, but some things remain iffy. Such as:
Gesture navigation still thinks preview windows should be the lower res, not native (looks poor, see attached images)
Some random visual glitches that cause a silent crash + restore, it's not critical but you can see it happening
No built-in battery health (as in limiting it), have to use something external (AccA)
Camera quality is way worse compared to stock. I don't mind as much as I don't care a lot, but quality regression is very significant (if I have to quantify it, I would accept 20-30%, but this feels more like 60%)
The GCAM's I've found that don't immediately crash (not many) all have serious bugs
No camera app found that plays nice with front camera, hope you weren't planning on taking pictures with the front camera
Edit: For 6 you can actually use the native app. Performance is super bad though.
To not sound too much like a downer I'll also put in some "niceties" compared to stock.
Holding volume button to seek is now native
OTA work again
Good visual eyecandy for charging, locking and more
No bloatware galore
Much much finer control over lots of little things, especially status bar is very nice
Other things:
The default launcher is a bit lacking, so I installed Nova 7, but this still has some shenanigans with force reloading and short unresponsiveness with gesture navigation. Very annoying, but I'm quite sure this is not the fault of the ROM. Just hoped this was improved (suggestions welcome)
If someone found a good GCAM please share, the ones I've found are either broken or seriously lacking.
It seems that sometimes the phone does not respond to my finger until I press the button. This could be intentional to prevent accidental unlocks / phone being locked for X seconds because lots of "bad" fingerprints detected.
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Alright some more shenanigans and needing to do a clean install further I do know some more things now.
1. is still broken, I'll try flashing a different kernel perhaps.
2. It's actually not so bad. It will remember and auto apply on reboot after a couple seconds. Gesture and notification bar may be slightly borked, but that's fixed fast by reloading system UI and switching between gesture and button navigation. The thing about recents has been resolved by switching to a different launcher with it's own quickswitch (lawnchair).
3. Acca works fine.
4/5/6 Nothing.
Another update.
2 is fine. Just don't use the built in launcher while forcing 4k. Just use lawnchair or something (+ quickswitch).
On another note, automatic brightness does NOT appear to work. This is quite the massive issue. I'm honestly a bit baffled how I haven't noticed until today.
AOD is also quite broken, while the phone is on the wireless charging and being ratiod to 90% it will continously blink. That's super annoying as I normally use AOD to check if I got a message, if it blinks it takes my attention, effectively defeating the entire purpose of AOD. *Groan*
These issues are really starting to stack up by now, I'm seriously considering reverting to stock. I'm really worried something else won't be working once I need it in the future.
UsernameNotRecognized said:
Another update.
2 is fine. Just don't use the built in launcher while forcing 4k. Just use lawnchair or something (+ quickswitch).
On another note, automatic brightness does NOT appear to work. This is quite the massive issue. I'm honestly a bit baffled how I haven't noticed until today.
AOD is also quite broken, while the phone is on the wireless charging and being ratiod to 90% it will continously blink. That's super annoying as I normally use AOD to check if I got a message, if it blinks it takes my attention, effectively defeating the entire purpose of AOD. *Groan*
These issues are really starting to stack up by now, I'm seriously considering reverting to stock. I'm really worried something else won't be working once I need it in the future.
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No autobrighness may be caused by not having an overlay. I've also been annoyed by that on Pixel Experience. Can you create a fresh overlay for this phone and do a pull request with phhuson's repo? (I assume that's what must done)
thatguy222 said:
No autobrighness may be caused by not having an overlay. I've also been annoyed by that on Pixel Experience. Can you create a fresh overlay for this phone and do a pull request with phhuson's repo? (I assume that's what must done)
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Well, sort of.
[Kernel][12.04.2023][Android 13] Kirisakura 3.0.1 for Sony Xperia 1 III aka "Sagami"
Kirisakura-Kernel for the Sony Xperia 1 III Hello everyone, To keep it short: Here is Kirisakura - Kernel for the Sony Xperia 1 III aka Sagami. Sagami is the internal codename for this years development platform of Sony Mark III devices. Please...
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Issue is that the "official" info provided by Sony seems to explicitly disable double tap to wake.
This makes absolutely no sense as double tap to wake works fine in the vanilla ROM.
Maybe someone can confirm this? It's been some time.
UsernameNotRecognized said:
Well, sort of.
[Kernel][12.04.2023][Android 13] Kirisakura 3.0.1 for Sony Xperia 1 III aka "Sagami"
Kirisakura-Kernel for the Sony Xperia 1 III Hello everyone, To keep it short: Here is Kirisakura - Kernel for the Sony Xperia 1 III aka Sagami. Sagami is the internal codename for this years development platform of Sony Mark III devices. Please...
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Issue is that the "official" info provided by Sony seems to explicitly disable double tap to wake.
This makes absolutely no sense as double tap to wake works fine in the vanilla ROM.
Maybe someone can confirm this? It's been some time.
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It's available in stock but it has never worked correctly. The proximity sensor doesn't disable it! There's a "Prevent accidental operations with screen off" setting as the world's dumbest work-around. That puts a keyboard and alert on the screen while you're walking. It stops emergency butt-dialing but the battery still runs down.
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It's available in stock but it has never worked correctly. The proximity sensor doesn't disable it! There's a "Prevent accidental operations with screen off" setting as the world's dumbest work-around. That puts a keyboard and alert on the screen while you're walking. It stops emergency butt-dialing but the battery still runs down.
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A what now? I do recall the proximity sensor not working really well with dt2w but at least it worked and I didn't notice some significant battery drain.
I did see some things about dt2w being disabled because the touch interface is powered when the screen is powered and this can't be decoupled. I'm not sure if this applies to this phone though.
Regardless, it shouldn't really matter as the X1 III is an OLED screen anyways. So as long as it's full black it should be fine(?)
I'm not asking for the perfect solution and if battery drain slightly increases that's a worthwhile investment to me. At least provide the option. Don't decide what I want because it has potential side-effects (just warn or something lol).
Actually I'm going out on a limb and stating that dt2w should be enabled by default if the device's screen is an OLED screen. Overlay and device specific things be damned.