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Pretty sure I'm going to go in and upgrade to a Rezound tomorrow and then exchange it for the Inc 4G when it comes out.
That'll be your last upgrade with unlimited data. So torn about stay with vzn from here on out
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I actually think I'm going to pick up the GNex tomorrow to try it out. My wife has a Rezound so when the DInc 4G comes out I can compare all 3 and decide which I want.
I'm already on tiered data, so it doesn't matter to me.
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I'm already on tiered data, so it doesn't matter to me.
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It does me. It's the only thing that has kept me on Verizon (well, that and my wife. that's another story though ).
Hey guys,
Glad this came up here. So I am grannyd in on my dinc2 (signed 2yr in July) along with a really good old verizon talk/text plan and with a business discount. So all in all things are peachy for me atm.
So here are the problems: the wife has long been up and needs to ditch her iphone from work. Wtf do I do?!
1. Do I wait this out to see what the family plans look like?
2. Or do I upgrade her now onto a 4g phone and get in before the family plans come out? Hell they might actually be ok if priced decently?!
3. Could I get a used 4g phone add that to my unlimited plan?!
4. Should I add her a data line and get her an off contact phone so we aren't locked in for 2yrs?! Is that possible?!
Jezus this is f'd up. These greedy mofos will go down at some point. And here is praying that Google does it from right under their own feet (their own network)
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So, assuming the Inc 4G is released before this change goes into effect...
First Question:
Will upgrading to the Inc 4G guarantee that I'll have the unlimited data for the full 24months, or will put the kibosh on it once the shared plans go "live." It seems like contractually, it would be hard for them to do the latter, but given how Verizon hates it's customers, I wouldn't be surprised if they tried it.
Second question:
I'm on a family plan and we still have a few people with dumbphones. Suppose they upgrade to smartphones and sign up for a shared plans. Will my unlimited plan just coexist and not be part of that share, or will Verizon say "You can't sign up for any new shared plan without obliterating any unlimited data lines on your account." Again, Verizon hates it's customers, so I would not at all be surprised if they try that second option.
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So, assuming the Inc 4G is released before this change goes into effect...
First Question:
Will upgrading to the Inc 4G guarantee that I'll have the unlimited data for the full 24months, or will put the kibosh on it once the shared plans go "live." It seems like contractually, it would be hard for them to do the latter, but given how Verizon hates it's customers, I wouldn't be surprised if they tried it.
Second question:
I'm on a family plan and we still have a few people with dumbphones. Suppose they upgrade to smartphones and sign up for a shared plans. Will my unlimited plan just coexist and not be part of that share, or will Verizon say "You can't sign up for any new shared plan without obliterating any unlimited data lines on your account." Again, Verizon hates it's customers, so I would not at all be surprised if they try that second option.
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Your 1st question I'm interested in the answer as well,:
Your 2nd question, I'm in the same boat and was told I could keep unlimited as long as the plan doesn't change ie same # of texts etc, but dumb phones upgrading would havto, as of now the 4g tiered plan, not sure if after they ditch unlimited if they'll stroke you into the shared plan though . Anyone know exactly when the unlimited plans will ditched?
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http://www.androidcentral.com/verizon-clarifies-new-data-plan-policies
When the new options are introduced, Unlimited Data will no longer be available to our customers purchasing handsets and signing a new contract. Customers who choose to purchase phones at full retail price and are currently on an unlimited smartphone data plan will be able to keep that plan. The same pricing and policies will apply to all 3G and 4GLTE smartphones.
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So, I'm gonna wait at least a little while longer. I now know I don't need to rush out and upgrade today. Sounds like these plans won't start kicking in until "later this year" and they say they'll give plenty of advance notice so I should be able to wait for the DInc 4G to come out but it will be my last true unlimited plan upgrade.
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So, assuming the Inc 4G is released before this change goes into effect...
First Question:
Will upgrading to the Inc 4G guarantee that I'll have the unlimited data for the full 24months, or will put the kibosh on it once the shared plans go "live." It seems like contractually, it would be hard for them to do the latter, but given how Verizon hates it's customers, I wouldn't be surprised if they tried it.
Second question:
I'm on a family plan and we still have a few people with dumbphones. Suppose they upgrade to smartphones and sign up for a shared plans. Will my unlimited plan just coexist and not be part of that share, or will Verizon say "You can't sign up for any new shared plan without obliterating any unlimited data lines on your account." Again, Verizon hates it's customers, so I would not at all be surprised if they try that second option.
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As far as your first question goes, yes upgrading to the Inc 4g before the new plans come out will allow you to keep your unlimited data. And you'all be under contract for another 2yrs with unlimited. Once your contract runs out you'll still be able to keep your unlimited data as long as you pay full retail price for all your phones from that point on. The min you buy a phone at reduced pricing from vzn you'll be forced on to a new teired data plan.
2nd. Question not so sure about but I highly doubt they'll let two different types of data plans coexist on the same plan.
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http://www.androidcentral.com/verizon-clarifies-new-data-plan-policies
So, I'm gonna wait at least a little while longer. I now know I don't need to rush out and upgrade today. Sounds like these plans won't start kicking in until "later this year" and they say they'll give plenty of advance notice so I should be able to wait for the DInc 4G to come out but it will be my last true unlimited plan upgrade.
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Won't be your last unlimited plan upgrade. Vzn released a follow up statement saying people with unlimited plans will be able to keep them but that they will have to buy their phones at full retail price. Once you upgrade through discounted pricing on a phone, that will be when they'll take your unlimited data away and put you on one of the new plans
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Won't be your last unlimited plan upgrade. Vzn released a follow up statement saying people with unlimited plans will be able to keep them but that they will have to buy their phones at full retail price. Once you upgrade through discounted pricing on a phone, that will be when they'll take your unlimited data away and put you on one of the new plans
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yeah, not really looking forward to buying phones at full price
verizon really needs to clarify those already on family plans with shared minutes (like me and my wife)...what happens if she wants to upgrade? does that mean i get forced onto shared data with her?
cuz honestly, i wouldnt mind that much (mostly cuz on her own she wont use over say 2gb once i have my own lte phone) if she could still use her upgrades going forward if i could keep my unlimited data
Ok fom my expuerence if you guys have been with the company for a while just put up a ***** tell them you are leaving. Im with tmobile and i get great offers all the time that are meant to be for new customers only. I once got two new phones forget the name and only had to pay tax on them and i got them to order them for me. Believe me the last thing they want is for you to leave them.
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whoa, I'm tmobile too but I have full unlimited data plan, all the bells and whistles and STILL have to pay FULL price for my devices! Complaining does nothing for me! My HTC SENSATION 4g costed me almost 700.00!! One good thing about tmo is you do have the option to take the device home and pay approximately 20.00 a month for the device. This makes it a bit easier than having to pay all at once.! But their data is NOT cheap! I have two lines unlimited data, one equipment charge (20.00)
My bill for last month was 254.00! That seems outrageous to me! I asked about it and they said I can cancel some services I have to lower it, such as hotspot tethering ect. But I need those services. I've been with them for ,4 years, seems like I should at the very least, get a reduced equipment charge! But I still have to pay full price! Complaints get me no where.!
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whoa, I'm tmobile too but I have full unlimited data plan, all the bells and whistles and STILL have to pay FULL price for my devices! Complaining does nothing for me! My HTC SENSATION 4g costed me almost 700.00!! One good thing about tmo is you do have the option to take the device home and pay approximately 20.00 a month for the device. This makes it a bit easier than having to pay all at once.! But their data is NOT cheap! I have two lines unlimited data, one equipment charge (20.00)
My bill for last month was 254.00! That seems outrageous to me! I asked about it and they said I can cancel some services I have to lower it, such as hotspot tethering ect. But I need those services. I've been with them for ,4 years, seems like I should at the very least, get a reduced equipment charge! But I still have to pay full price! Complaints get me no where.!
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complaining may or may not get you anywhere with carriers
a lot depends on who you complain too, how often, what the complaint is, and your history of service and complaining with them
many people have gotten ETF's waived, but it usually takes a series of calls over several weeks and months proving there is something wrong with their lines and services
complaining about your contract and what it contains, depends on what you are up in arms about...i really dont see being able to argue your way into an upgrade AND keeping unlimited data once the family data share plans start...regardless of your circumstances/history (but who knows)
a few years back (2008/9) my wife and i were extremely unhappy with our BB8830s and were each around 8-10 months away from an upgrade (me 4 months into my annual my vzw upgrade, she was half way through a 2 year)...i must have called 25-30 times and spoken to half that many different CR's and supervisors, demanding that they move our upgrade dates up to get the BB Storm (lol, ikr) or that when our contracts were up we would leave for ATT to get the iphone because its what we both really wanted
basically everyone i talked to gave me the "ok, have fun with ATT" talk and refused to do anything except move *1* of our upgrades up by a few months....despite my carrying on that we had been customers since the late 90's (well i had been) it all fell flat
other times, however ive been successful in getting replacement devices with no ?s asked...wife actually dropped her first tbolt and it stopped working (but showed no real damage) and we got it replaced for free w/o insurance...and i got my fascinate replaced with the inc2 when the speaker failed (and the fascinate was actually a used device bought off ebay a few weeks after its launch)
so its all situational i suppose
/end rambling
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Won't be your last unlimited plan upgrade. Vzn released a follow up statement saying people with unlimited plans will be able to keep them but that they will have to buy their phones at full retail price. Once you upgrade through discounted pricing on a phone, that will be when they'll take your unlimited data away and put you on one of the new plans
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I'm in the same boat. We both have unlimited data planes and I'm sure she ain't going to want to pay $700 for her phones lol
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Ok if you wait till your contract is up you will have more leverage i have done it multiple times and even got one of my lines upgaded to a better u.nlimited ie 5 gb instead if 2 gb at no extra cost talk to someone higher up and results will follow. Tell them why woild i pay you x amount when i can change carriers for cheaper
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I was at the Verizon store today and asked about them about the Incredible 4g. Said it was supposed to be out this month but its delayed until probably next month. I also asked if it will be out before Verizon kills the unlimited plan and he says they have decided not to do it ans they got a corporate email saying so. Not that I believe them anyway just stating what they said.
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I was at the Verizon store today and asked about them about the Incredible 4g. Said it was supposed to be out this month but its delayed until probably next month. I also asked if it will be out before Verizon kills the unlimited plan and he says they have decided not to do it ans they got a corporate email saying so. Not that I believe them anyway just stating what they said.
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Your last sentence said it all... Cardinal rule of Verizon: never believe anything the salespeople say. It's never right.
I was a former in store tech for vzw before they laid us all off and i still have good friends that work as sales reps and one told me he heard a rumor about this taking affect at the end of june. Again its just a rumor but we all know its coming. If i hear anything gurther i will post my findings
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so this doesn't pertain just to the DNA but I upgraded to the DNA Friday morning via Best Buy.com website and i received the phone today and both my lines still have unlimited data...
when i was upgrading it initially gave me a pop up saying i would have to choose a new data plan but during the upgrade process it never asked me to pick a new data plan and on my purchase info it stated keep same plan.. the contract has been added to my account as my upgrade date on My verizon has changed.. but the line I upgraded on still shows unlimited data!!
I can't promise this will work again but it's worth a shot if you really want to keep unlimited data!!
I'll be very interested to hear if Verizon catches this and changes your plan in the next couple months, keep us updated!
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I'll be very interested to hear if Verizon catches this and changes your plan in the next couple months, keep us updated!
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i am interested too..
the upgrade was on my wife's phone which doesn't need unlimited data anyway so that is why i took the chance with the upgrade.. if they change her plan to the $30 2GB option it won't be the end of the world..
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i am interested too..
the upgrade was on my wife's phone which doesn't need unlimited data anyway so that is why i took the chance with the upgrade.. if they change her plan to the $30 2GB option it won't be the end of the world..
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If you transfer an upgrade, even from another unlimited data smartphone line, to your own, to get the DNA, the replacement of the unlimited data plan does not retroactively apply - that's how I ended up having unlimited data after transferring an upgrade from a (willing) sibling's line, both of us having unlimited data before my purchase of the DNA.
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If you transfer an upgrade, even from another unlimited data smartphone line, to your own, to get the DNA, the replacement of the unlimited data plan does not retroactively apply - that's how I ended up having unlimited data after transferring an upgrade from a (willing) sibling's line, both of us having unlimited data before my purchase of the DNA.
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well i didn't transfer the upgrade i upgraded my wife's line to the DNA (she currently has an iPhone 5, but was out of contract) they sent the phone with a new sim card... when i got the phone i took the pre-installed sim out of the DNA put mine in..
I know you can transfer upgrades but that isn't how i did this one.
so before the upgrade we both had the 29.99 unlimited data.. on verizon's site it was making me change her data to the $30 2gb plan but on bestbuy's site it never asked/made me change her plan in fact it even says keep existing data plan on my invoice.
I had unlimited data but used the upgrade from my line which should have lost it for me but my VZW account still shows unlimited as well. I assume the 2gb plan will kick in at the start of my next billing cycle. Interestingly, I also switched the pre-installed sim with the one from my GNex. Maybe I'll get lucky and somehow keep unlimited... but I doubt it.
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I had unlimited data but used the upgrade from my line which should have lost it for me but my VZW account still shows unlimited as well. I assume the 2gb plan will kick in at the start of my next billing cycle. Interestingly, I also switched the pre-installed sim with the one from my GNex. Maybe I'll get lucky and somehow keep unlimited... but I doubt it.
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who did you upgrade with? straight through verizon or some 3rd party?
I did the upgrade on the 23rd so that was 2 days into my billing cycle so i guess in theory they could change the plan on the 22nd of December when my new billing period starts.. but if they do I will call CS and argue.. since my info i recieved from BBY when i upgraded showed keep same data plan..
I upgraded through VZW. I preordered through the website on the 18th. My billing cycle resets on the 14th so I'll know for sure in a couple weeks.
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Good luck. I had a similar setup going with AT&T and they finally hit me with "That plan isn't compatible with your phone." and switched me to a tiered plan. That was when I decided to switch to VZW. I will likely buy my future devices from e-bay or another source to ensure I have unlimited data as long as possible.
Thats cool. Ill keep my fingers crossed. Only loophole(besides alternate upgrade) to keep unlimited data.
I used my bro's upgrade to get the DNA on verizon and I lost unlimited data. Stuck with 2 GB for the same price. Hope they bring back that promotion of double data. And my mother has 4GB and she uses like .1 lol.
So lazarus2297, are you still on the unlimited plans? I just went through the entire process also showing " keep existing plan". Didn't go through with it yet. Want to make sure before I order.
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So lazarus2297, are you still on the unlimited plans? I just went through the entire process also showing " keep existing plan". Didn't go through with it yet. Want to make sure before I order.
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yes i am still on the unlimited plan and it has now been over three weeks.. i upgraded via the online site on black friday.
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yes i am still on the unlimited plan and it has now been over three weeks.. i upgraded via the online site on black friday.
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OK thanks. Forgot to ask you. Did you start a new cycle since you upgraded?
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OK thanks. Forgot to ask you. Did you start a new cycle since you upgraded?
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not yet.. my new billing period starts on the 22nd
Well, I'm now officially 2 days into my new billing cycle and my account is still showing unlimited data despite having used my upgrade to purchase this phone through Verizon.
I'm not really sure why I didn't get stuck with a 2gb plan but I'm not certainly not complaining. :thumbup:
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Well, I'm now officially 2 days into my new billing cycle and my account is still showing unlimited data despite having used my upgrade to purchase this phone through Verizon.
I'm not really sure why I didn't get stuck with a 2gb plan but I'm not certainly not complaining. :thumbup:
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I'm just worried that Verizon will all of a sudden just change it over to the 2gb plan down the road.
It took AT&T 3 months to switch my data plan to a tiered plan. I left shortly there after because I hadn't done an upgrade but they wouldn't let me go back to my original data plan.
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I assume this will happen at some point. However, both of my parents upgraded this last month as well, and both of their plans changed from unlimited to 2gb right away. This gives me some hope that it's some weird fluke/loophole on Verizon's part and I might get to keep unlimited.
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I assume this will happen at some point. However, both of my parents upgraded this last month as well, and both of their plans changed from unlimited to 2gb right away. This gives me some hope that it's some weird fluke/loophole on Verizon's part and I might get to keep unlimited.
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I posted the same experience some time ago, transferred an upgrade with unlimited data to my line, with unlimited data, and both lines stayed unlimited after the upgrade.
I had called Verizon since I was confused about the LTE sim card, and the handler openly told me that because I had transferred the upgrade the data plan wouldn't change for either one.
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I activated the Note 48 hours ago and the VZW webpage still shows me on unlimited. Do they typically start the new plan at the beginning of the next bill cycle, or did I somehow get lucky? Thanks
maybe when the billing cycle ends
Not me. I'm getting billed for my data usage over 2 gigs. And I'm now at 11.2 gb. That's 9 gigs over at $10 extra/1 gig. Ouch. I upgraded in store so it appears my new plan went into effect immediately.
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Bump. Anyone else? I'm still on unlimited, but my new bill cycle starts tomorrow.
Its weird, I'm already on my next billing cycle and it still shows unlimited data still. I did the pre-order through the VZW website. I'm keeping my mouth shut until they realize it lol
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Its weird, I'm already on my next billing cycle and it still shows unlimited data still. I did the pre-order through the VZW website. I'm keeping my mouth shut until they realize it lol
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You might actually get to keep it. I upgraded to a SGS3 shortly after it came out, but way after the cutoff to keep unlimited officially. I never lost it then.
I ordered the SGS3 through Verizon's website. I also ordered the GNote 2 on their website. I wonder if there's something special about the way my line is configured or the way I'm activating my phone that's causing this.
When I received the GNote I didn't go through any activation process and I didn't use the SIM they sent me. I just yanked the SIM from my SGS3 and popped it in the Note. I will be very happy if I wake up tomorrow and still have unlimited.
FWIW I first added this line about 2 years ago when VZW first got the iPhone and was offering unlimited data with it. Can they not take away unlimited while I'm still in contract?
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You might actually get to keep it. I upgraded to a SGS3 shortly after it came out, but way after the cutoff to keep unlimited officially. I never lost it then.
I ordered the SGS3 through Verizon's website. I also ordered the GNote 2 on their website. I wonder if there's something special about the way my line is configured or the way I'm activating my phone that's causing this.
When I received the GNote I didn't go through any activation process and I didn't use the SIM they sent me. I just yanked the SIM from my SGS3 and popped it in the Note. I will be very happy if I wake up tomorrow and still have unlimited.
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Yea could be because we didn't switch sim cards. I did the same thing and just took my sim out of my razr and stuck it in the note 2. I'll keep my fingers crossed.
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Yea could be because we didn't switch sim cards. I did the same thing and just took my sim out of my razr and stuck it in the note 2. I'll keep my fingers crossed.
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IIRC that's what I did with the SGS3 too.
Just started a new cycle, still unlimited and also ordered through vz website. Who knows?
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Just started a new cycle, still unlimited and also ordered through vz website. Who knows?
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May I ask how you activated your phone? Did you just pop in an already activated sim card to the Note?
I upgraded at a Evo2 Store (Another branch of Verizon, but still a Verizon store) and I upgraded yesterday and I still have my unlimited data.
That's supposed to be impossible. Now I cannot speak for the automated system, but Verizon's eROES system we use will force you to drop unlimited data and add on a the 2GB package. The only way around this is to use another line's upgrade and then do a device swap.
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That's supposed to be impossible. Now I cannot speak for the automated system, but Verizon's eROES system we use will force you to drop unlimited data and add on a the 2GB package. The only way around this is to use another line's upgrade and then do a device swap.
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Well, I can tell you for sure that I've done it once before.... So strong emphasis on the supposed to
My bill cycle should cut over here in a minute. We shall see.
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Well, I can tell you for sure that I've done it once before.... So strong emphasis on the supposed to
My bill cycle should cut over here in a minute. We shall see.
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That'ls pretty sick if you got away with it, I must admit. There must be some inconsistencies with their online activation systems, but I can tell you that anyone using eROES to process an upgrade on a line with an unlimited package will be forced to downgrade. I do this every day.
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That'ls pretty sick if you got away with it, I must admit. There must be some inconsistencies with their online activation systems, but I can tell you that anyone using eROES to process an upgrade on a line with an unlimited package will be forced to downgrade. I do this every day.
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Does the downgrade usually happen immediately, or is it dated to the beginning of the next bill cycle usually?
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Does the downgrade usually happen immediately, or is it dated to the beginning of the next bill cycle usually?
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It's effective on the date the upgrade is processed, also the new start date of your contract. However, it is not back-dated, which means you won't receive any overages if you had used more than 2GB already. Your data usage will reset as per usual on your billing cycle date.
It's after midnight here but it still hasn't clicked over to the next bill cycle. Would really like to see it stay unlimited so I can go back to abusing the 40 meg LTE I get here in Saint Louis lol
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It's after midnight here but it still hasn't clicked over to the next bill cycle. Would really like to see it stay unlimited so I can go back to abusing the 40 meg LTE I get here in Saint Louis lol
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You said you purchased your phone a few days ago, correct? Did the Verizon site say anything about you losing unlimited data when you ordered your phone? Are there any additional lines on your account and are they still under contract? If they do downgrade you and they didn't inform you of the change I would call and raise hell. Threaten to return your device, reverse your upgrade, and terminate your service.
Watch them add a exception note to your account.
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You said you purchased your phone a few days ago, correct? Did the Verizon site say anything about you losing unlimited data when you ordered your phone? Are there any additional lines on your account and are they still under contract? If they do downgrade you and they didn't inform you of the change I would call and raise hell. Threaten to return your device, reverse your upgrade, and terminate your service.
Watch them add a exception note to your account.
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It definitely warned me I would lose unlimited when I placed the order on the 19th of last month. I had come to terms with being on WiFi all the time. It's available both at home and work, so it would have been manageable.
But, heck, if the don't take it away again I will not complain. Just wish I knew what I did that was special.
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It's after midnight here but it still hasn't clicked over to the next bill cycle. Would really like to see it stay unlimited so I can go back to abusing the 40 meg LTE I get here in Saint Louis lol
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Maybe its cuz we're both in STL! Lol
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Just about to pre-order a One, and I'm stuck on trying to understand what 'data unlimited' means as compared to the 3GB plan. I did get grandfathered to an unlimited plan when I transitioned to my Inspire, but in the past 2 years there hasn't been a single month where I exceeded 2GB. Wondering if y'all have any advice.
Keep your grandfathered unlimited data, NO reason not to.
I'm on Premier, but when I tried to order mine, the website wouldn't give me the correct price for the phone if I kept my current voice and data plan.
I went into a store, and during the process they told me the system said unlimited plans were not allowed with this device. They called to make sure I am able to keep the unlimited data. Whoever they called annotated my account saying I could keep it, but it has to be reapplied after I get the phone (as was the case the last couple of times I upgraded).
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Unlimited gets throttled at 3gb... If u avg 2.5 check out the mobile share plans no throttling and they go upto 50gb... if u wanna keep unlimited don't order online cuz they'll swap ur data pkg
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Unlimited gets throttled at 3gb... If u avg 2.5 check out the mobile share plans no throttling and they go upto 50gb... if u wanna keep unlimited don't order online cuz they'll swap ur data pkg
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Not sure exactly what you're saying here.
If I don't get throttled until after 3G, then what's to worry about? How much 'throttling' is there? How does one tell if the plan has been changed?
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Unlimited gets throttled at 3gb... If u avg 2.5 check out the mobile share plans no throttling and they go upto 50gb... if u wanna keep unlimited don't order online cuz they'll swap ur data pkg
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If I recall, LTE unlimited data plan cap is 5GB.
yep. If your on att, always keep your unlimited. Only way to lose it is if they accidentally upgrade your data plan to 3gb or whatever data, or move you to the mobile share plan.
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Not sure exactly what you're saying here.
If I don't get throttled until after 3G, then what's to worry about? How much 'throttling' is there? How does one tell if the plan has been changed?
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You should be able to keep your data plan regardless of how you order, but as someone else mentioned, the "unlimited" data plan is only unlimited until you are throttled at the 3 gig mark (I do believe its 5 gig for LTE users), at which point you drop to 2G speeds (and let me tell you, 2G is not fun) for the remainder of your billing period. If the Premiere site isn't letting you keep the plan, then you should be able to call and place the same order over the phone with a rep, and the rep should be able to retain your data plan. Otherwise, if you remove the data plan, even accidentally, you cannot get it back, so be very careful about what you click.
AT&T changed the specifics of the "unlimited" plan a while ago without changing the actual name of the plan, to keep people happy. So the "unlimited" and "3GB" data plans are essentially similar now.
Im with O2 Uk
We have two phones through my wife's contract.
On my SGS II I had unlimited data. I never realized just how much I used it until a O2 rep called to "let us know" I had used about 6 gig of data that month. Wanted to know what it was on and that all was ok, LOL
Funnily 4 months before my upgrade they called again to say they will not be continuing the Unlimited option as they deemed 1-2 gig to be enough.
And trust me, you don't miss it till its gone! Im now watching every darn kb pass in fear of it running out, for me 1-2-3 GB is nothing.
The frustrating thing is, they wont offer me a plan with more than 2 gb a month??...
So Im now having to look in to getting a external Bluetooth sim thing (tbh, cant remember what they're called, which isn't helping me find the one im after.. )
I'm now jealous of a friend that has kept his unlimited plan for the past 5 or so years.... (was a special offer, bet they didn't see him keeping it this long lol) He's even forfeited his phone upgrades to keep the contract, smart guy.
My advice, Never give up your unlimited mobile internet.
Oh, and just before all you haters start hating, I don't tether and I don't torrent on my plan :angel: , I do alot of streaming :good:
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We have two phones through my wife's contract.
On my SGS II I had unlimited data. I never realized just how much I used it until a O2 rep called to "let us know" I had used about 6 gig of data that month. Wanted to know what it was on and that all was ok, LOL
Funnily 4 months before my upgrade they called again to say they will not be continuing the Unlimited option as they deemed 1-2 gig to be enough.
And trust me, you don't miss it till its gone! Im now watching every darn kb pass in fear of it running out, for me 1-2-3 GB is nothing.
The frustrating thing is, they wont offer me a plan with more than 2 gb a month??...
So Im now having to look in to getting a external Bluetooth sim thing (tbh, cant remember what they're called, which isn't helping me find the one im after.. )
I'm now jealous of a friend that has kept his unlimited plan for the past 5 or so years.... (was a special offer, bet they didn't see him keeping it this long lol) He's even forfeited his phone upgrades to keep the contract, smart guy.
My advice, Never give up your unlimited mobile internet.
Oh, and just before all you haters start hating, I don't tether and I don't torrent on my plan :angel: , I do alot of streaming :good:
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You clearly know nothing of the people in the US that run 90-150 gigs per month off of their unlimited LTE data plans.
I used to have unlimited when I had a BlackBerry years ago but when I switched to the Samsung Captivate I had to change the data plan and I lost it. I've had 2 a month ever since and I always have to monitor my data with 3g watchdog. Thinking about changing it to 3 GB when I pre-order the HTC one since it's only $5 more a month.
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Didn't want to take a chance of loosing my grandfathered unlimited data plan so I went to a corporate store yesterday and placed the order there for upgrade of phone only. They also included the media link which was out of stock yesterday afternoon but was restocked later in the evening online.
Keep the unlimited. I use up a lot of data on Plex app and DirecTV alone.
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You should be able to keep your data plan regardless of how you order... AT&T changed the specifics of the "unlimited" plan a while ago without changing the actual name of the plan, to keep people happy. So the "unlimited" and "3GB" data plans are essentially similar now.
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Ok, so just to be sure I'm on the same page, when I upgraded, I selected the box which said this, and my current (post-upgrade) services show:
Data Unlimited SmartPhone Personal
Data Plan for SmartPhones. Unlimited domestic data usage. Only available for upgrades. Requires customers to be on a "Gold List" Data Unlimited SmartPhone Plan prior to upgrade to 4G device.
I presme that's the right one, yes?
I am in the same position. I have the unlimited plan and I'm thinking about getting the HTC One.
I will not give up my plan because I regularly go over 3gb. I received the text message threatening to throttle my speed after 3gb but never really noticed the difference after 3gb.
I remember when I was upgrading to the iphone 4 back in 2010 I had the choice of keeping unlimited data or drop to 2GB and save $5 a month. At the time I was not even close to 2gb so I dropped down to save some $$.
Fast forward to 2013.
I do about 6GB a month. Without even trying. LTE was a game changer.
I regret giving up my unlimited data.. They even raised the throttling to 5GB.
I ordered online but before doing so I talked to representatives. They told me if I ordered it but called them before activation they can make sure that you don't lose the unlimited data. I have backup in the form of a chat online with their representative just in case they try to not honor their word.
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Ok, so just to be sure I'm on the same page, when I upgraded, I selected the box which said this, and my current (post-upgrade) services show:
Data Unlimited SmartPhone Personal
Data Plan for SmartPhones. Unlimited domestic data usage. Only available for upgrades. Requires customers to be on a "Gold List" Data Unlimited SmartPhone Plan prior to upgrade to 4G device.
I presme that's the right one, yes?
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Looks right to me.
At&T throttle?
ATT has threatened to throttle my unlimited every month for the past year or two. I always get the same two messages and it never happens. At least not that I can tell. I'm sure they do throttle, but it's never actually happened to me. I run speedtest pretty regularly and Netflix never has any trouble.
Never let them take away your unlimited data. They will have to pry it from my cold dead hands.
Yes some are bone heads but some aren't. Here's my recent experience.
I have 4 phones on my account with a 10 gig shared data plan. My daughter wanted to move from Sprint to Verizon so my wife and I went to a Verizon store to help her through the transaction. One of the first things I do when I talk to one of the CS reps is state my position and what I want from this conversation with him/her. I like to see what they know or don't know. My rep, John, saw that I wasn't an average clueless customer and he immediately shifted into a smarter mode. Kudos for that.
So, my daughter decides on a Moto X. He runs the numbers and quickly figures out that it's much cheaper for her to join our family plan. No problem, we'll do that. She now pays us monthly for 1/5 of the total bill.
Then he pulls this one: "I'd like for you to look at the Edge plan for that Moto X." Ok, I'm not dumb, I've read all about the Edge plan. Yes it's no contract and yes you can switch to a new phone after a year but you pay for the phone as you go. I've looked at the numbers and it never makes sense to get Edge unless you just can't wait to upgrade phones. But boy do you pay for it.
Right now my opinion of John is changing. He's trying to pull a fast one. So I object saying, "I'm not interested in Edge." He comes back with, "What if I can prove it saves you money?" "OK, wise guy," I'm thinking, "do you take me for an idiot? Show me how smart you are, bonehead." Instead, I say, "Really? How?"
And he shows me. The way the Edge program works is that the monthly cost of the phone on an Edge plan is retail cost divided into 20 months. In the case of the Moto X it's $400 retail or $20 per month. Turns out if you have a 10 gig, or higher, data plan they discount the Edge program by $25 for EACH phone on the Edge plan. So, in her case the $20 plan minus the $25 discount reduced the plan by $5 compared to a 2 year subsidized contract. "So," I thought, "this guy really knew what he was doing."
Other advantages to Edge: The phone can be upgraded after 60% of the retail price is paid off. That's 12 months. If you want to trade it in sooner than 12 months then pay the difference to get up to 60%. This is a trade-in, you don't keep the phone. However, if you do keep the phone for 20 months it's yours to keep, no trade in necessary.
The break even point is phone that retails for $500. At that point the monthly payment is $25 and the discount is $25.
An HTC One and LG G2 are break even on Edge. A Note 3, S5 and LG G3 are only $5 more on Edge. All in all, it turns out, Edge is a pretty good deal if you have the 10 Gig plan.
In the end, my daughter was happy, I'm happy and it was a great experience. So, not all CS reps are idiots.
Nice too bad I have unlimited and won't be going the edge route
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Nice too bad I have unlimited and won't be going the edge route
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You can say that again
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You can say that again
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Yeah. Because of how much data I use, they told me they would give me all the deals of a more everything plan plus 20% off my whole bill. Then I said I already have 20% off through a worker who worked there years ago. They said it would add on top of that. So 40% off plus what ever more eveything. But given how much data I use, wouldn't do anything for me.
You lost me at "some aren't"
Nice experience. Not sure why you keep calling him a bone head in your mind. If you knew about the edge and the savings you get (-$25 for 10gb), then the sale would be as easy as in and out. But then again looks like you didn't know of that last part about the savings. Anyways congrats on your new phone purchase.
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Deekayy said:
Nice experience. Not sure why you keep calling him a bone head in your mind. If you knew about the edge and the savings you get (-$25 for 10gb), then the sale would be as easy as in and out. But then again looks like you didn't know of that last part about the savings. Anyways congrats on your new phone purchase.
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For now. The days of unlimited are coming to an end. Before long the only to keep unlimited data is to never change your phone.
TabGuy said:
For now. The days of unlimited are coming to an end. Before long the only to keep unlimited data is to never change your phone.
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As. Long as wee keep our current unlimited plans and buy our devices outright then I do not see how they can legally boot us off of unlimited.
droidstyle said:
As. Long as wee keep our current unlimited plans and buy our devices outright then I do not see how they can legally boot us off of unlimited.
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First of all, if you read your contract you'll see that they have the right to change the contract at any time. In essence, legally, they can boot you off of unlimited data anytime they want. There's nothing you can do about it, you signed the contract. Right now they won't do that because there are too many unlimited plan customers, including my phone, that it would get bad press.
Another loophole changes in August were people would have someone on their family plan buy a new phone and they switched the SIM card to be able to upgrade their phone without paying full price. That goes away on August 24th.
Right now the only way left to keep unlimited data is to buy a full phone at full price, not a discounted price. However, I expect to see that change in the future. I believe that within the next 12 months Verizon will change their policy with regard to unlimited. They won't kill it but you will lose it if your phone's MEID changes. In effect, the only way to keep unlimited data is to never change to a different phone. Lose your phone, break your phone, or upgrade to a new phone and your unlimited data plan will go away. Verizon has stated LOUD AND CLEAR that they don't like unlimited data plans and that they will eventually end.
droidstyle said:
As. Long as wee keep our current unlimited plans and buy our devices outright then I do not see how they can legally boot us off of unlimited.
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This forum has a link about the future of unlimited data. Basically Verizon will begin throttling people who use more data than they deem profitable.
TabGuy said:
First of all, if you read your contract you'll see that they have the right to change the contract at any time. In essence, legally, they can boot you off of unlimited data anytime they want. There's nothing you can do about it, you signed the contract. Right now they won't do that because there are too many unlimited plan customers, including my phone, that it would get bad press.
Another loophole changes in August were people would have someone on their family plan buy a new phone and they switched the SIM card to be able to upgrade their phone without paying full price. That goes away on August 24th.
Right now the only way left to keep unlimited data is to buy a full phone at full price, not a discounted price. However, I expect to see that change in the future. I believe that within the next 12 months Verizon will change their policy with regard to unlimited. They won't kill it but you will lose it if your phone's MEID changes. In effect, the only way to keep unlimited data is to never change to a different phone. Lose your phone, break your phone, or upgrade to a new phone and your unlimited data plan will go away. Verizon has stated LOUD AND CLEAR that they don't like unlimited data plans and that they will eventually end.
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First of all if you are not on a contract then they can not change anything.
kinstre11 said:
This forum has a link about the future of unlimited data. Basically Verizon will begin throttling people who use more data than they deem profitable.
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Yes I am well aware...see my posts in that thread.
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First of all if you are not on a contract then they can not change anything.
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If you aren't under contract then they can do anything. They could end your unlimited data tomorrow and you'd have absolutely no recourse.
Edit: You are always under contract, the one you signed when you first joined Verizon. The phone may be paid off but the contact always exists as long as you use their network. You are just under the month-to-month portion of the contract.
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If you aren't under contract then they can do anything. They could end your unlimited data tomorrow and you'd have absolutely no recourse.
Edit: You are always under contract, the one you signed when you first joined Verizon. The phone may be paid off but the contact always exists as long as you use their network. You are just under the month-to-month portion of the contract.
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No you are not under a contract when month to month. There are no binding terms keeping me locked to any set rules or conditions. However, there is the TOS I agreed to back when I first joined. Aside from that I have been a VZW customer for 15yrs and they have never ended or terminated any service I have had with them. They may discontinue a older plan, but they have never forced me off of any plan I was on. I have no reason to believe they would start doing such things. Just because they did away with the loop hole(add a line/transfer device/put dumb phone on added line) to keep unlimited does not mean they are going to start forcing people off thier unlimited plans. Even if they did, I would simply jump on a shared plan...it is what it is.
Boy did I luck out. Just read this about august 24th. I got a note 3 yesterday! Still unlimited.... and my upgrade I'd in November, seems like people better get their phones now! So what if you buy a used phone and swap sims?? Post Aug 24th...
TabGuy said:
Another loophole changes in August were people would have someone on their family plan buy a new phone and they switched the SIM card to be able to upgrade their phone without paying full price. That goes away on August 24th.
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That's not true, the only loop hole they are closing is that if you add a new line to get a smartphone you have to keep the data plan on that phone. You can still use an upgrade on another smartphone line then transfer the SIM, or if you have an upgrade on your unlimited, transfer it to another smartphone do the upgrade then swap the SIM cards(this is what I just did a couple of months ago). So basically I have an unlimited line and my wife has a tiered plan, we both get to use our upgrades, we just have to do the transfer gimmick.
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That's not true, the only loop hole they are closing is that if you add a new line to get a smartphone you have to keep the data plan on that phone. You can still use an upgrade on another smartphone line then transfer the SIM, or if you have an upgrade on your unlimited, transfer it to another smartphone do the upgrade then swap the SIM cards(this is what I just did a couple of months ago). So basically I have an unlimited line and my wife has a tiered plan, we both get to use our upgrades, we just have to do the transfer gimmick.
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Exactly... +1
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As. Long as wee keep our current unlimited plans and buy our devices outright then I do not see how they can legally boot us off of unlimited.
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I worked for Verizon, and have recently left to pursue other opportunities. I posed this very same thought to my account manager. She said that the most likely scenario is that there will be a point when they will absolutely remove unlimited data. They can say we are sorry but that phone cannot be put on a line with unlimited data. You have to also scour the terms and conditions. The company does reserve the right to terminate any plans and change existing plans. This is whether or not you are in contract. I am pretty sure they have a legal team that has already discussed this. I always see threats by people saying they will leave and go to this company or that company; but let's face it, choices for phone companies are very limited. You go to T-Mobile and you have limited areas, same with Sprint. The two companies that are in control are Verizon and AT&T. They have effectively formed a duopoly. It is not by accident that they have nearly the same exact plans. All I am saying is enjoy the data while you have it.
bairste said:
I worked for Verizon, and have recently left to pursue other opportunities. I posed this very same thought to my account manager. She said that the most likely scenario is that there will be a point when they will absolutely remove unlimited data. They can say we are sorry but that phone cannot be put on a line with unlimited data. You have to also scour the terms and conditions. The company does reserve the right to terminate any plans and change existing plans. This is whether or not you are in contract. I am pretty sure they have a legal team that has already discussed this. I always see threats by people saying they will leave and go to this company or that company; but let's face it, choices for phone companies are very limited. You go to T-Mobile and you have limited areas, same with Sprint. The two companies that are in control are Verizon and AT&T. They have effectively formed a duopoly. It is not by accident that they have nearly the same exact plans. All I am saying is enjoy the data while you have it.
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the problem with putting any stock in what your account manager says is the simple fact that one could speak to 10 different account managers and get 10 different answers.
Amen to that, verizon employees must not have group trainings as they All seem to have a different answer for you.
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Most people do not realize the 25 dollar credit per edge line per month on the bill.
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