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Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but I looked and searched many times and has not found any details.
I have ready countless forums and websites saying that it is not possible to port over a honeycomb rom to the TouchPad because Google has not released the source code. I owned a Viewsonic G-Tablet and I had flashed a Honeycomb Rom and it was pretty stable. Even the Nook Color has a Honeycomb port. Why does the G-Tablet and the Nook Color have the ability to run honeycomb, but not the Touchpad.
Just a question and maybe some of the devs can look into this and maybe succefully port honeycomb onto the TouchPad!
We are waiting on you to port it......thanks!
Gvndeb60 said:
We are waiting on you to port it......thanks!
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I am not any type of dev. Hence this question I posted.
Just wait a little while for Ice Cream Sandwich, which will be much better than Honeycomb.
It's not that it's impossible to. It's that it's a pain, it tends to be broken, and with ICS around the corner, there is no reason to waste the effort.
I had a nook color it didnt run honeycomb it ran the sdk emulator and it was not good
Dont worry thr devs who are wotking on cm7 are nit tryung to get one over on u by using gingerbread
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BrianDigital said:
I had a nook color it didnt run honeycomb it ran the sdk emulator and it was not good
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This. The Honeycomb roms for the Nook and other tablets are hacked together from the SDK, so they're not optimized for the device they're running on. Since there's no source, issues cant be (comparably) easily fixed. And with that in mind, you need a good working Android base which doesnt yet exist for the touchpad since CM is (rightfully) withholding source due to its alpha status.
Even if we did have CM source, the ICS source release is just around the corner. There's no point in doing it since the work wouldnt translate and just be wasted.
Wait for the ICS source to drop if you want ICS.
lixfejbarrera said:
Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but I looked and searched many times and has not found any details.
I have ready countless forums and websites saying that it is not possible to port over a honeycomb rom to the TouchPad because Google has not released the source code. I owned a Viewsonic G-Tablet and I had flashed a Honeycomb Rom and it was pretty stable. Even the Nook Color has a Honeycomb port. Why does the G-Tablet and the Nook Color have the ability to run honeycomb, but not the Touchpad.
Just a question and maybe some of the devs can look into this and maybe succefully port honeycomb onto the TouchPad!
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All Honeycomb ports are hacks because Google has never released the full source for it.
The Touchpad _could_ run Honeycomb, but as the only development for it is CM7, which is gingerbread based currently, that's what you get.
If you can find some people who want to sink the time into hacking Honeycomb onto it, then you could have it, but I doubt anyone is going to want to bother given that ICS source is due in the next couple of months and with any luck we'll get a CM8 port instead of a half-assed Honeycomb.
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If you can find some people who want to sink the time into hacking Honeycomb onto it, then you could have it, but I doubt anyone is going to want to bother given that ICS source is due in the next couple of months and with any luck we'll get a CM8 port instead of a half-assed Honeycomb.
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CM9 you mean;-) CM8 has been kept open for Honeycomb specifically, so the next CM will be CM9 I read somewhere.
I think HD2 is able to boot Honeycomb too, but it never got stable.
http://www.ixplora.com/wp-content/2011/03/hd2-honeycomb-595x306.jpg
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CM9 you mean;-) CM8 has been kept open for Honeycomb specifically, so the next CM will be CM9 I read somewhere.
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Really? Seems odd given that it's closed-source, but fair enough
The more you know!
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I am not any type of dev. Hence this question I posted.
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Yeah I think he was pointing out the fact that if you want it go make it. I have to say though seriously? Just in the last week did we go from pretty much no Android to pretty dang functional gingerbread... And already asking why don't we/why doesn't someone port honeycomb... Really? Seems a little unappreciative but maybe that's just me...
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Got a link that the next version will be CM9?
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I saw on the Android BBQ video with the Cyanogen team mentioned CM9 would be next because of going to ICS next. Don't have a link but is on xda tv somewhere
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First, the nook and g-tablet ARE Android devices to being with.
Second, it took some time to get the above devices to "run" Honeycomb.
Third, neither is completely functional with Honeycomb.
Lastly, if you really really want Android your best is probably to get an Android device. I also have a g-tablet and with custom ROM that made it mostly functional, it was never 100% and issue free. I was never completely satisfied until I got an real Android device (Asus Transformer).
Being able to dual boot the Touchpad with a functional Android OS would be nice. But personally I got it to try out WebOS and have something different.
Does anyone know the current status of ICS development for Amaze? Contemplating switching from Sensation, which is just at the doorstep of getting pure AOSP ICS, currently few minor bugs to be worked out. Just wondering how far development has gone, perhaps at other sites?
Xboarder is doing a ton of the work here and as far as I know he is the one working on it. I believe his latest thought was porting it from another device but so far all we have had is a functional touchscreen.
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Xboarder is doing a ton of the work here and as far as I know he is the one working on it. I believe his latest thought was porting it from another device but so far all we have had is a functional touchscreen.
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Similar stuff going on @ sensation - Tripnraver is doing awesome work @ Modaco. I had tried his pure AOSP ICS rom and it's almost ready, save camera and bt, and I can't believe how amazingly fast and snappy it was. Not my daily driver yet, but mighty close.
I guess I should be expecting similar time frame from xboarder (i used one of his CM7 based roms on sensation).
I'll raise a toast to our first successful developer, and send them some beer change, too They all deserve much for their hard work.
Here's the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1378294
The last post from him says he is working on something else currently.
I know ICS is on the way but I am not particularly excited about it.
I was using honeycomb on my gtablet for a few months and was constantly frustrated by the laggyness and broken features. I am not ungrateful because I know the developers are working with what they have, which is next to nothing. But that doesn't stop it from being true that the honeycomb roms were not very stable.
I recently switched down to froyo, trying to get skype working so I could maybe give it to a friend for that purpose, and i was blown away by the stability and speed! It is amazing and I have actually used it to accomplish a few things in my daily life which I can't say I was able to do before. It really left an impression on me that just because an OS is old it doesn't mean it can't be better than the latest.
So now my concern is that ICS will be the same. Is there anything developers can really do to make ICS good without the source code/drivers? Or will it be another ROM that is just there to say you have the latest android on your device, no matter how many compromises there are with it.
I've got ICS on my droid incredible and on my galaxy nexus, and it would be cool to have it on all 3. But I have no problem keeping froyo on my tablet if it is simply better at accomplishing a task.
Haterade disclaimer
This post is not meant to bad mouth the developers or the community. In fact I am constantly amazed at what they are able to accomplish with so little. I don't mean to imply what they do is easy. I also don't think I could do any better. I wouldn't be able to do it in 10 years.
The gTablet actually has pretty decent specs. As a developer on ICS I can tell you that I can boot my tablet in 20 seconds and it operates great. Obviously there are still bug fixes but the build is progressing well. HD video and HW accel all work. Flashback or whatever HC build was laggy because the lack of proper drivers/kernel. We now have all of that for ICS. I'm guessing that by the time our build is done/tweaked it will be more stable and faster than froyo. Keep your head up and watch for the release sooner than later.
You have to take into account that the versions of Honeycomb on the gTablet were hacks of other device versions. It wasn't a true build for our devices, which is why some things wouldn't work. With FroYo, everything is working since all the pieces have been available.
What makes things look better with the ICS development (compared to Honeycomb) is that they are developing a kernel specifically for the gTablet. This, in itself, should make it a lot better than the pieced-together Honeycomb ports. Already they have hardware acceleration and HD video working, things that were only present in FroYo ROMs prior to this new kernel. Personally, I think the ICS build is looking stronger than any Gingerbread or Honeycomb version ported to the gTablet.
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The gTablet actually has pretty decent specs. As a developer on ICS I can tell you that I can boot my tablet in 20 seconds and it operates great. Obviously there are still bug fixes but the build is progressing well. HD video and HW accel all work. Flashback or whatever HC build was laggy because the lack of proper drivers/kernel. We now have all of that for ICS. I'm guessing that by the time our build is done/tweaked it will be more stable and faster than froyo. Keep your head up and watch for the release sooner than later.
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This is exactly the response I was hoping to hear.
I wasn't exactly sure if we would get HW accel and HD video with ICS. I knew we didn't have it on HC.
I'll stay optimistic though, thanks.
Apodidae said:
You have to take into account that the versions of Honeycomb on the gTablet were hacks of other device versions. It wasn't a true build for our devices, which is why some things wouldn't work. With FroYo, everything is working since all the pieces have been available.
What makes things look better with the ICS development (compared to Honeycomb) is that they are developing a kernel specifically for the gTablet. This, in itself, should make it a lot better than the pieced-together Honeycomb ports. Already they have hardware acceleration and HD video working, things that were only present in FroYo ROMs prior to this new kernel. Personally, I think the ICS build is looking stronger than any Gingerbread or Honeycomb version ported to the gTablet.
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Thanks for that. Now I am excited lol.
If we can get a 1.5ghz ICS build as fast as the Froyo ROMS and as stable then that is fantastic. That was exactly what I was unsure about... since Gingerbread and Honeycomb were not so strong, would the same be true with ICS? I guess the answer is no, ICS should be awesome for our tablet.
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This is exactly the response I was hoping to hear.
I wasn't exactly sure if we would get HW accel and HD video with ICS. I knew we didn't have it on HC.
I'll stay optimistic though, thanks.
Thanks for that. Now I am excited lol.
If we can get a 1.5ghz ICS build as fast as the Froyo ROMS and as stable then that is fantastic. That was exactly what I was unsure about... since Gingerbread and Honeycomb were not so strong, would the same be true with ICS? I guess the answer is no, ICS should be awesome for our tablet.
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Don't worry we have a great team working on it, and as fosser says when it is released everything will run fast with HW acceleration, there will be no reason to ever run froyo again, unless you like running retro stuff for fun
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Don't worry we have a great team working on it, and as fosser says when it is released everything will run fast with HW acceleration, there will be no reason to ever run froyo again, unless you like running retro stuff for fun
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Camera will likely be working right?
Nevermind, I saw the DRH rom and it says no camera atm. I hope that could be added soon.
Hello all! For my first post, I'd like to say THANK YOU tohat all the developers that have worked so hard to bring us all these great ROMs. I have currently rolled back to the stock ROM, and will likely suffer with froyo until this ICS ROM comes out. While I am looking forward to it, I also know that nothing happens in a vacuum. If you devs are willing, I would be eager to volunteer my time and experience (close to two decades of using and building Linux systems and troubleshooting kernel problems, as well as configuring and building kernels) towards this project as a start. If there is any interest, any of you can PM me from here. And again, thanks!
Oops! Got my threads switched. The above was for the ICS ROM thread. Sorry for the confusion.
drizzt5, the beta links are live over on SD if you wanna check the speed and stability of ICS.
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drizzt5, the beta links are live over on SD if you wanna check the speed and stability of ICS.
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I actually had it downloaded and installed last night and have been playing with it for most of today.
It is fast, but unless I flashed it incorrectly or something it doesn't appear to be nearly as stable as froyo.
Yes, it is in beta and has just been released so it would be foolish of me to expect it to instantly be as stable as the froyo roms. But this is just not there yet. Browser crashes often for me.
Like I said before.
I've got ICS on my droid incredible and on my galaxy nexus, and it would be cool to have it on all 3. But I have no problem keeping froyo on my tablet if it is simply better at accomplishing a task.
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I can see the hard work that has gone into this ROM, and I can see the benefits from working from the ground up for just this tablet. I love what you guys are doing. Keep up the good work and it might eventually get to that level.
I'm not sure of the development cycle, but it looked like different updates for GTab's JB ROM was just a month apart, or less. Since August, TeamDRH hasn't put out anything, and their main website seems to be broken as all get out (none of the links work and just lead back to the main site. I was trying to find an older version of 4.0.x)
Are they still in the mix? Is teamdrh.com the wrong place to look? I see they're newest is JB 5.2 (Android 4.1.x), however I also see on these forums that 5.3 is available, so there's confusion there, too.
Yeah exactly what I'm screaming what happened to the drh crew?!?!?! I see fosser popping in always teasing people they have several more things working and what I have seen that kernel is far more stable then 2.6....
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Some memebers of Team DRH (if not all) are still working on this. Fosser and company are working on the 3.1 kernel running Android 4.1.2. There will be a release when it is ready so be patient. There are ocassionally updates on Slate Droid but there is much more active development here on XDA with redeyedjedi and nobe1976 releasing flashable ROMs. So unless you're going to compile from source I'd suggest you play with the ROMs released on XDA and wait for Fosser to officially release his kernel/ROM.
Lot of the DRH crew dropped out but there are a few left. We're putting the finishing touches on our 3.1 kernel which will hopefully bring the gtab back to life! Hold tight.
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Lot of the DRH crew dropped out but there are a few left. We're putting the finishing touches on our 3.1 kernel which will hopefully bring the gtab back to life! Hold tight.
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Great to hear. can't wait for 3.1 and camera at last.....(I hope)
Presently running 10.1-20130110-UNOFFICIAL-smba1002
Build# cm-smba1002-userdebug 4.2.1 JOP40D eng.noone.20130109.185812 test-keys
Running w/ no problems.
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Great to hear. can't wait for 3.1 and camera at last.....(I hope)
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Build
Running w/ no problems.
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Wish u wouldn't have posted this...
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Not to worry, it's only 1 of my 3 g tablets. I'm still waiting. :good:
Hello,
I've been a fan of this site for a while, and I just created an account tonight.
I noticed that the ICS kernel source was released by HTC today. I am looking forward to having a nice ICS AOSP rom with working video. Thank you DEVS!
With the ICS kernel source, are we limited to ICS versions of android? Can the kernel source be modified to work with Jelly Bean? Maybe CM10.1?
From a verizon customer holding on to unlimited data,
thanks again to all of the DEVs and individuals that contribute to the Thunderbolt community.
blackshoes said:
Hello,
I've been a fan of this site for a while, and I just created an account tonight.
I noticed that the ICS kernel source was released by HTC today. I am looking forward to having a nice ICS AOSP rom with working video. Thank you DEVS!
With the ICS kernel source, are we limited to ICS versions of android? Can the kernel source be modified to work with Jelly Bean? Maybe CM10.1?
From a verizon customer holding on to unlimited data,
thanks again to all of the DEVs and individuals that contribute to the Thunderbolt community.
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From what I understand it's being worked on, maybe not actively right now but it seems to be a strong possibility.
HTC released their kernel version 3.0.16. That will out-of-the-box support Ice Cream Sandwich. Jelly Bean needs 3.0.31 (or higher). I think what the kernel developers now need to do is back port the necessary bits and pieces to HTC's version to make it compatible.
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HTC released their kernel version 3.0.16. That will out-of-the-box support Ice Cream Sandwich. Jelly Bean needs 3.0.31 (or higher). I think what the kernel developers now need to do is back port the necessary bits and pieces to HTC's version to make it compatible.
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Already have one patched up to around 3.0.80, just gotta finish adding in the new board files, LTE drivers and defconfig.
As we all know though, older kernels can also be made to run versions they aren't intended for as well.
Also already have CM10.1 running pretty darn well...
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Already have one patched up to around 3.0.80, just gotta finish adding in the new board files, LTE drivers and defconfig.
As we all know though, older kernels can also be made to run versions they aren't intended for as well.
Also already have CM10.1 running pretty darn well...
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What a tease!
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santod040 said:
Already have one patched up to around 3.0.80, just gotta finish adding in the new board files, LTE drivers and defconfig.
As we all know though, older kernels can also be made to run versions they aren't intended for as well.
Also already have CM10.1 running pretty darn well...
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That is great news Santod!
santod040 said:
Already have one patched up to around 3.0.80, just gotta finish adding in the new board files, LTE drivers and defconfig.
As we all know though, older kernels can also be made to run versions they aren't intended for as well.
Also already have CM10.1 running pretty darn well...
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I think I just soiled myself. Oh the amazing things I miss while I'm at work.
santod040 said:
Already have one patched up to around 3.0.80, just gotta finish adding in the new board files, LTE drivers and defconfig.
As we all know though, older kernels can also be made to run versions they aren't intended for as well.
Also already have CM10.1 running pretty darn well...
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Is the RIL working for you?
video of cm1.1 on the tbolt
blackshoes said:
Hello,
I've been a fan of this site for a while, and I just created an account tonight.
I noticed that the ICS kernel source was released by HTC today. I am looking forward to having a nice ICS AOSP rom with working video. Thank you DEVS!
With the ICS kernel source, are we limited to ICS versions of android? Can the kernel source be modified to work with Jelly Bean? Maybe CM10.1?
From a verizon customer holding on to unlimited data,
thanks again to all of the DEVs and individuals that contribute to the Thunderbolt community.
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HTC Thunderbolt Runnig cm10.1 Video:good:
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HTC Thunderbolt Runnig cm10.1 Video:good:
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loving this! :good:
Cyanogenmod 10.1 official support?
I'm curious. Once the devs are able to get the kernel ready for cyanogenmod 10.1, has anyone thought about submitting that kernel to cyanogenmod for official Thunderbolt cyanogenmod builds?
From the posting linked below, cyanogenmod requires a tested kernel and a developer or group of developers that will maintain the kernel for official support. Is cyanogenmod official support a possibility with the kernel the DEVs are working on?
forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/72612-can-i-get-cyanogenmod-on-my-device/
Thanks for the info!
blackshoes said:
I'm curious. Once the devs are able to get the kernel ready for cyanogenmod 10.1, has anyone thought about submitting that kernel to cyanogenmod for official Thunderbolt cyanogenmod builds?
From the posting linked below, cyanogenmod requires a tested kernel and a developer or group of developers that will maintain the kernel for official support. Is cyanogenmod official support a possibility with the kernel the DEVs are working on?
forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/72612-can-i-get-cyanogenmod-on-my-device/
Thanks for the info!
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I can't speak for everyone, but let's get "that" kernel worked out first.
It's now possible, but still not exactly a simple task.
Having already knocked out a custom Sense ICS kernel from the source was done without much hassle already.
And Jelly Bean has come pretty far for the Bolt already, but making a fully functional Jelly Bean kernel from HTC's ICS source may take a bit more dilligence.
So I would just say let's take it one step at a time.
Official builds would require dedication on a dev or multiple devs parts to continue updating and supporting it.
There aren't a lot of candidates left, that may still have enough personal interest in doing so when that time comes.
Basically, that's just not something that can be predicted at this point, as there are still uncertainties surrounding such a thing, from several different aspects/angles.
It would of course be great to see the old Bolt be added to the list of devices which are officially supported.
Who knows what else the future may hold for this faithful beast that keeps getting surprises, even if long overdue.
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HTC Thunderbolt Runnig cm10.1 Video:good:
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I want.
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