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BETA ICS 4.0.X Brought to you by Team DRH is NOW AVAILABLE ELSEWHERE! (And if you don't know where elsewhere is you don't deserve it )
February 2nd
IceCreamSandwich is now available brought to you by the genius's that make up Team DRH! Due to the Teams wishes no direct links shall be posted so if you want it you will have to do one of the following:
1. Go over to -that other site-, find the Gtab section and the ICS Beta thread and download it, OR
2. wait for it to be officially posted on XDA here (which I have no idea when it will happen.)
and that's all I have to say on the matter. This here post can be found later in the thread but I'm quoting it here as well for convenience:
fosser2 said:
When the beta build gets released to SD please keep direct links off of XDA. I know that its not exactly protocol around here to link to SD but XDA will get the full rom in the development section. SD will have it first.
PS: links are live! you all know where to get it
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January 15th
HAPPY NEW YEAR!
Sorry I haven't updated in a while! been a bit busy but I come bearing wonderful news! in the last 2 months development has shifted entirely from Honeycomb to IceCreamSandwich and rather than the .36 kernel it's being built with the .39 kernel. While this may sound like it would take a lot longer it really isn't due to the source code for ICS being released so the devs don't have to jump through hoops trying to get stuff to work.
The reality of it is that it's a heck of a lot easier to get ICS working than it would be to have continued with HC3.2. and ICS IS working. Fosser2 said that there's a possibility that a public beta build MIGHT be released next week if everything goes well. (so we can cross our fingers and hope). I believe everything BUT the camera is working now so they are likely just polishing some things up and making sure it won't kill out tablets before releasing anything publicly.
Here's a couple videos made by one of the alpha testers to wet your whistles.
ICS on GTab UPDATE!
ICS on gtab with sound!
I'll keep this thread more updated if anything new comes to light
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Old Updates from Honeycomb
It appears that the folks over at Slatedroid have gotten the the .36 kernel to boot into Linux and Honeycomb 3.2 on our tabs! This is great news cause this will give them the ability to see what they need to change in the kernel to get full Hardware Acceleration!!! For the ones that don't know, the .36 kernel is the magical kernel that gives honeycomb hardware acceleration on our chips. He's a quote from the dev thread:
UPDATE 11/24
So Ch3vr0n5 over at SlateDroid has posted that they are accepting 20 applications for alpha testing the .36 kernel. Space is limited so make sure to read this thread over on SD if you wish to apply
http://www.slatedroid.com/topic/25230-bl-12-26363-development-alpha-testing-112411/
This is what we've been waiting for. alpha means we are getting VERY CLOSE to public release!!
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Update 11/20/11
Hey, due to BLT24 not having time to keep this thread updated I've taken over. Just keep the same format as it's easier.
Anyways on the newsfront a fellow by the name of dwagner has fixed the long press power button issues so now it does what it's suppose to. One step closer to a public release
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Update 11/15/11
Im so sorry that I haven't updated for almost a month now. My computer went kaput and I am no longer able to keep up with the updates I am working right now to get this thread handed over to someone else so that it can continue to keep people informed. Again I'm so sorry for the inconvenience, you can head to the last page of this thread to see updates from Pawnty, or you can click the link at the bottom of this post to head over to the original thread
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Check-in 10/20/11
Well the Dev thread has been very quiet lately. Don't worry though, they are still very hard at work on this kernel. Right now they are working on different hardware drivers and tweaks. Hopefully it will be ready in the next coming weeks! Keep watching! I am still actively following the Dev thread and IRC!
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Update 10/05/11
We have ALL the nvidia proprietary drivers working in the .36 kernel now. The streak image would have been useful if it had the same accelerometer as we do , but it doesn't.
I'm not sure what sound chip the streak 7 has, but if it was the same as ours it would be useful.
Each manufacturer has the ability to use whatever sensor devices they want. This also changes how they are connected to the tegra2.
Update:
Wake from sleep fixed, I was trying to get the lowest power sleep mode to work, but it seems to be an issue in the bootcode embedded in the tegra2. There is a workaround but the bootloader needs to support it, which is why I was trying the hannspad 1.3 bootloader.
lp1 isn't bad however, my tab slept all night and woke up with a full battery.
There is a really annoying error on the i2c bus at the moment causing the capacitive keys not to work. (really, really annoying)
The heat issue seems to be wifi related, others are not having the same issue.
Once the i2c issue is fixed then most of the kernel issues are done.
Sound is likely a mix of kernel and rom issues.
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Reminder:
guys, can you make sure people dont use my hannspad kernel on the gtab.
.36 doesn't use the ODM like .32 does, so things like gpios, buses and regulators look a lot more device specific now.
I'm concerned you could do some damage by using it.
obviously happy for you to use the rom, its roughly based on VC9,with some Adam changes and pulls from the a500, but you really need a gtab kernel,to play with it.
I've used some of treznorx changes in my repo, (hell I've even been that lazy i haven't bothered changing his file names yet)so there's obviously shared ground, and I'm happy to pay it back how I can...
it looks like mohan has a pretty solid gtab kernel built now.
have fun ..
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Update 09/28/11
Yes that is currently how we are testing the kernel by injecting the kernel into the Vegacomb ROM and making a change in init.harmony.rc; however, once we get closer to a polished product we will give tlbardeljr and anyone else who is interested notice so they can starting tinkering away at 3.2 for a future release. We should have an alpha test version out in a week or so but don't hold us to that
Cheers
Also the flashback team have finally responded!! Here is a quote:
"Give it a few weeks when this kernel is complete the Flashback team or other modders will probably make a 3.2 port."
Flashback: We are all ready tabletcraze just have not been posting here because dont want to distract from your work. (awesome job to all of you!)
I do expect there will need to be framework changes. Newbe and the vega guys are digging through these now so a lot have been fixed already.
If there is anything you guys want me to do now just let me know.....otherwise I will go back to staying out of your hair so you can continue the awesome work.
So keep a lookout for a flashback update soon after this kernel releases!!
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Update 09/26/11
Great work from Kushiels over in the Adam camp getting sound code working well! Actually, great work from everyone who has contributed by way of code,testing,building,gathering info,cheering the devs,etc! The gang on our IRC channel have all done a fabulous job getting everything to where it is today...
I have sound on both speakers...volume buttons fixed...working on volume level and a new sensors library right now....
todo :
wakelocks,
PM,
fix long hold on pwr button,
fix USB so it works without workaround,
fix battery fuel guage,
fix media buffering,
fix mmc so it static maps to avoid SD card issues at boot,
and last but not least the crappy camera...
It will soon be time to get this in the hands of our ROM developers to do preview and perform their magic.
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Thanks bluecobras09 for the update!
Update 09/22/11
Touch screen is fully functional
Still no sound but they are close!
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Update 09/21/11
Wifi working
Youtube full HD video working
still no sound
touchscreen wonky but working
Market Working
Seems like we're moving into alpha territory!
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Update 09/19/11
Honeycomb 3.2 booting to desktop then Freezes
Mouse working
No touchscreen yet
2.6.36 based on Raymans github
Update #2
No more Freeze, stable desktop
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Update 09/10/11
Ok, I have been gone for a while dealing with stuff but the dev team has been trucking along and we have new contributors. Currently I think we are actually moving to a 2.6.38.3 base instead of 2.6.36.3 because it just likes our tablet much better. Yay! rootfs Ubuntu is booting and touchscreen works with wifi so I feel we are closer to our end goal, booting android and having full HW acceleration. Hope to post a more in depth update later when I get a few minutes to get back into the game. Check page ten (I think) for a youtube video showing Ubuntu running.
YouTube video of xubuntu booting on gtab/.38 kernel HERE!
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Update 09/08/11
A new .38 kernel was found that plays a lot nicer with our tabs with Linux. We were able to boot Backtrack 5 with it and have working touch screen, WiFi, and even Bluetooth. We are working now to see how it does with android!
Stay tuned, some exciting things are happening!!!
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Update 09/05/11
"Still working on it. Mayday-Jay has been doing a lot of work on the kernel and he is able to get the Gtab working on the BackTrack5 correctly.
Yesterday, I got a few debug logs from the 4950 and Pershoot's .43 kernel. With those, we think we will be able to bridge the gap and have something that will boot on Android.
The biggest hurdle right now seems to be related to the clocks since the frequencies are different from 2.6.32 and 2.6.36.
If anyone is playing with the kernel and got some debug logs or more information, do not hesitate to send it to us."
"Hi Icewyng,
Thank you.
Sure, please find in attachment dmesgs of stock and kernel from this thread"
We finally got dmesgs!!! Now this thing gets a lot easier!
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Update 09/02/11
That just means we are working hard... or hardly working...
Still just trying to get things like ADB working. Mayday is about to go on vacation so he will be spending time on the kernel and Icewyng has been working steadily. As for me, I have been busy with some life stuff but I have still been compiling and testing. We are at the point where hopefully one of us will make that "breakthrough" we are all working towards so hold on to your seat... the ride is about to get bumpy.
Cheers =)
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Update 8/25/2011
We know that we are hanging on init.rc and have a few ideas one how to proceed. Mayday_Jay (Give him and Icewyng a big thank you because they have made this project viable) is working on getting all the developers a proper update.zip that will help those with out a usb to serial converter get some useful debug information.
Don't fret when it takes a couple days for us to update. If you want bleeding edge news, join us on the kernel dev irc channel which is found further on in the thread. We are still working!
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"PROGRESS!
Just wanted to post an update:
There has been some progress so far. Mayday-Jay has been able to start the kernel in Linux (with Backtrack 5) but the touchscreen was not working. He is trying to compile the Kernel and give Android a shot.
There is still some way to go but I think we can expect the Kernel sooner than later. "
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I Will update this thread as updates come out there.
If you want to follow the development yourself, you can find it HERE
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It appears that the folks over at slatedroid have gotten the the .36 kernel to boot into Linux on our tabs! This is great news cause this will give them the ability to see what they need to change in the kernel to get it to boot. For the ones that don't know, the .36 kernel is the magical kernel that gives honeycomb hardware acceleration on our chips. He's a quote from the dev thread:
I Will update this thread as updates come out there.
If you want to follow the development yourself, you can find it HERE
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Actually, it's not a port of VegaComb 3.2 (Honeycomb 3.2) they are working on as the title suggests.
They are just in the beginning stages of trying to convert the Adam .36 kernel that Rayman did. Rayman had to rewrite various drivers for the Adam hardware (which is similar to, but not the same as ours) to get it working on the Adam. Hopefully they can do the same for ours.
Update 08/25
@aabbondanza
yes you are right atm but none of our honeycomb ports are built to use hardware acceleration(even though they can be changed to do so). So that means our only option for testing is vegacomb. So if they get it to boot vegacomb then that will be our first rom with HW ACC and the others can rewrite their already made honeycomb ports to use the new kernel
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Update 08/25
@aabbondanza
yes you are right atm but none of our honeycomb ports are built to use hardware acceleration(even though they can be changed to do so). So that means our only option for testing is vegacomb. So if they get it to boot vegacomb then that will be our first rom with HW ACC and the others can rewrite their already made honeycomb ports to use the new kernel
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Granted, a VegaComb 3.2 port would be great, but, no one has gotten it to work on the gTab and no one has announced that they are working on a VC 3.2 port.
Our current HC roms are operating on .32 kernels that don't fully support HC, while Rayman has created a .36 HC kernel that supports full h/w accelleration on the NI Adam (another close cousin of the gTab as the Vega is).
Even the guys over at Slatedroid who trying to convert the Adam .36 kernel discussed trying to use the Vega release as a starting point but decided that since the Adam kernel now supports full hardware accelleration & that Rayman had offered assistance if needed, that would be easiest route to getting this working on the gTab.
IMO, the first step in achieving full accelleration is going to be switching a .36 kernel. Once we have a working gTab .36 kernel then we should look forward to newer versions of Honeycomb & or Icecream Sandwich.
Yes you are right sorry I guess that I didn't understand your last post lol Thank you for going into more detail
Any updates / progress on this?
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Any updates / progress on this?
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I've been following them on their IRC and things look good, they got the usb/serial cable to work last night and today they are working on getting a logcat so they can find out what stopping them. Things are looking really good so hang in there and i'll keep you updated!
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I've been following them on their IRC and things look good, they got the usb/serial cable to work last night and today they are working on getting a logcat so they can find out what stopping them. Things are looking really good so hang in there and i'll keep you updated!
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Thank you very much!!
Update 09/02/11
bump!
isn't anyone else excited! ?
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isn't anyone else excited! ?
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Title is still kind of misleading. Kernel programming is no simple task. They are at the very beginning stages. I'll be much more excited when they start making progress. Hats off to them though because I surely couldn't do it. At this point they appear to be wavering between continuing to work with the Adam kernel or maybe switching to the Vega one.
Update 09/05/11
BUMP!
i dont plan on retiring my gtab for another 10 years! rooting for yall
Just thought I'd drop by.
A few people had success with getting a working kernel for Backtrack 5 ( I know Mayday-Jay has a config that works great with it) but we still have some way to go to get Android working on 2.6.36 with the Gtab.
If anyone wants to help out, let us know! The more people we have, the better the chances to get this thing on the road quickly!
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Update 09/10/11
excited
How do we go about as a community to contribute financially to this team??????
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Working 720p play videos download in youtube ....
working 720p @ 30fps !! Gtablet android 3.0.1
I should receive my gtablet this week and I'm following this thread daily. Hope they can achive their goals and release a nice kernel.
PS: I thought gtablet was a really famous tablet with lot of improvements thanks to xda users. But it seems that there is not too much development lately... am I wrong?
I know ICS is on the way but I am not particularly excited about it.
I was using honeycomb on my gtablet for a few months and was constantly frustrated by the laggyness and broken features. I am not ungrateful because I know the developers are working with what they have, which is next to nothing. But that doesn't stop it from being true that the honeycomb roms were not very stable.
I recently switched down to froyo, trying to get skype working so I could maybe give it to a friend for that purpose, and i was blown away by the stability and speed! It is amazing and I have actually used it to accomplish a few things in my daily life which I can't say I was able to do before. It really left an impression on me that just because an OS is old it doesn't mean it can't be better than the latest.
So now my concern is that ICS will be the same. Is there anything developers can really do to make ICS good without the source code/drivers? Or will it be another ROM that is just there to say you have the latest android on your device, no matter how many compromises there are with it.
I've got ICS on my droid incredible and on my galaxy nexus, and it would be cool to have it on all 3. But I have no problem keeping froyo on my tablet if it is simply better at accomplishing a task.
Haterade disclaimer
This post is not meant to bad mouth the developers or the community. In fact I am constantly amazed at what they are able to accomplish with so little. I don't mean to imply what they do is easy. I also don't think I could do any better. I wouldn't be able to do it in 10 years.
The gTablet actually has pretty decent specs. As a developer on ICS I can tell you that I can boot my tablet in 20 seconds and it operates great. Obviously there are still bug fixes but the build is progressing well. HD video and HW accel all work. Flashback or whatever HC build was laggy because the lack of proper drivers/kernel. We now have all of that for ICS. I'm guessing that by the time our build is done/tweaked it will be more stable and faster than froyo. Keep your head up and watch for the release sooner than later.
You have to take into account that the versions of Honeycomb on the gTablet were hacks of other device versions. It wasn't a true build for our devices, which is why some things wouldn't work. With FroYo, everything is working since all the pieces have been available.
What makes things look better with the ICS development (compared to Honeycomb) is that they are developing a kernel specifically for the gTablet. This, in itself, should make it a lot better than the pieced-together Honeycomb ports. Already they have hardware acceleration and HD video working, things that were only present in FroYo ROMs prior to this new kernel. Personally, I think the ICS build is looking stronger than any Gingerbread or Honeycomb version ported to the gTablet.
Sent from my gTablet using Tapatalk.
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The gTablet actually has pretty decent specs. As a developer on ICS I can tell you that I can boot my tablet in 20 seconds and it operates great. Obviously there are still bug fixes but the build is progressing well. HD video and HW accel all work. Flashback or whatever HC build was laggy because the lack of proper drivers/kernel. We now have all of that for ICS. I'm guessing that by the time our build is done/tweaked it will be more stable and faster than froyo. Keep your head up and watch for the release sooner than later.
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This is exactly the response I was hoping to hear.
I wasn't exactly sure if we would get HW accel and HD video with ICS. I knew we didn't have it on HC.
I'll stay optimistic though, thanks.
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You have to take into account that the versions of Honeycomb on the gTablet were hacks of other device versions. It wasn't a true build for our devices, which is why some things wouldn't work. With FroYo, everything is working since all the pieces have been available.
What makes things look better with the ICS development (compared to Honeycomb) is that they are developing a kernel specifically for the gTablet. This, in itself, should make it a lot better than the pieced-together Honeycomb ports. Already they have hardware acceleration and HD video working, things that were only present in FroYo ROMs prior to this new kernel. Personally, I think the ICS build is looking stronger than any Gingerbread or Honeycomb version ported to the gTablet.
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Thanks for that. Now I am excited lol.
If we can get a 1.5ghz ICS build as fast as the Froyo ROMS and as stable then that is fantastic. That was exactly what I was unsure about... since Gingerbread and Honeycomb were not so strong, would the same be true with ICS? I guess the answer is no, ICS should be awesome for our tablet.
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This is exactly the response I was hoping to hear.
I wasn't exactly sure if we would get HW accel and HD video with ICS. I knew we didn't have it on HC.
I'll stay optimistic though, thanks.
Thanks for that. Now I am excited lol.
If we can get a 1.5ghz ICS build as fast as the Froyo ROMS and as stable then that is fantastic. That was exactly what I was unsure about... since Gingerbread and Honeycomb were not so strong, would the same be true with ICS? I guess the answer is no, ICS should be awesome for our tablet.
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Don't worry we have a great team working on it, and as fosser says when it is released everything will run fast with HW acceleration, there will be no reason to ever run froyo again, unless you like running retro stuff for fun
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Don't worry we have a great team working on it, and as fosser says when it is released everything will run fast with HW acceleration, there will be no reason to ever run froyo again, unless you like running retro stuff for fun
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Camera will likely be working right?
Nevermind, I saw the DRH rom and it says no camera atm. I hope that could be added soon.
Hello all! For my first post, I'd like to say THANK YOU tohat all the developers that have worked so hard to bring us all these great ROMs. I have currently rolled back to the stock ROM, and will likely suffer with froyo until this ICS ROM comes out. While I am looking forward to it, I also know that nothing happens in a vacuum. If you devs are willing, I would be eager to volunteer my time and experience (close to two decades of using and building Linux systems and troubleshooting kernel problems, as well as configuring and building kernels) towards this project as a start. If there is any interest, any of you can PM me from here. And again, thanks!
Oops! Got my threads switched. The above was for the ICS ROM thread. Sorry for the confusion.
drizzt5, the beta links are live over on SD if you wanna check the speed and stability of ICS.
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drizzt5, the beta links are live over on SD if you wanna check the speed and stability of ICS.
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I actually had it downloaded and installed last night and have been playing with it for most of today.
It is fast, but unless I flashed it incorrectly or something it doesn't appear to be nearly as stable as froyo.
Yes, it is in beta and has just been released so it would be foolish of me to expect it to instantly be as stable as the froyo roms. But this is just not there yet. Browser crashes often for me.
Like I said before.
I've got ICS on my droid incredible and on my galaxy nexus, and it would be cool to have it on all 3. But I have no problem keeping froyo on my tablet if it is simply better at accomplishing a task.
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I can see the hard work that has gone into this ROM, and I can see the benefits from working from the ground up for just this tablet. I love what you guys are doing. Keep up the good work and it might eventually get to that level.
Just wondering if any beta testers have anything to report on the latest release from Asus ... When did you receave it, How is performance ? Does it address the I/O issues?
If you can - please update here to help everyone at xda-developers.com
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Just wondering if any beta testers have anything to report on the latest release from Asus ... When did you receave it, How is performance ? Does it address the I/O issues?
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Esp for those you wish to keep to stock!
I have not received anything since the 28.5 firmware update a LONG time ago.
If JB is coming in the "coming months" as announced today.. who cares about some updates to ICS now. It's old news.
I care, because, I'd like to have a tablet I can use. Right now, it's pretty damned annoying.
Just like "months" is irritating. I'd get excited about early august.
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I care, because, I'd like to have a tablet I can use. Right now, it's pretty damned annoying.
Just like "months" is irritating. I'd get excited about early august.
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Exactly. JB is great and all, but how about providing me with a decent, usable tablet first. It's been almost 8 friggin' months now.
so, rather than agressively work on the next latest OS, you want them to continue to dilly dally with ICS versus just getting on with it? it takes them months between ICS releases and the issues are not improving. Why not take months and get on with JB and making it happen.
not me. ICS, forget about it... lets get on to the next OS versus wasting time, resources, effort, on an ICS
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so, rather than agressively work on the next latest OS, you want them to continue to dilly dally with ICS versus just getting on with it? it takes them months between ICS releases and the issues are not improving. Why not take months and get on with JB and making it happen.
not me. ICS, forget about it... lets get on to the next OS versus wasting time, resources, effort, on an ICS
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Well first of all, hello all Prime users. I am relatively new to forum and checking this section because I recently purchased Infinity. I believe it may perhaps be two different things. ICS & JB are OS but they can potentially fix the issue based on the Kernel if so they probably should as there is probably a good chance they are going to use the kernel on JB. So what I mean is JB may show up but if they continue to use the same Kernel and if it is indeed the issue.... So yeah if these firmware update are referring to OS tuning then won't worth it but if it is Kernel, which they use for both JB & ICS then they should fix it on ICS before potentially introducing new issue with JB.
Nothing they do to IML74K 4.0.3 will solve the 201's problems.. just my opinion
If they push JB they better have an updated kernel.
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If they push JB they better have an updated kernel.
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I hope so too. I suspect a lot of problems would be solved with a fresh kernel with updated drivers.
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Just wondering if any beta testers have anything to report on the latest release from Asus ... When did you receave it, How is performance ? Does it address the I/O issues?
If you can - please update here to help everyone at xda-developers.com
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Lets try again: Where are all the many beta testers of alfa softwareversion, there should have been ready 8 month ago! Gary from ASUS mention them all the time. Can't se any clue of them....
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Nothing they do to IML74K 4.0.3 will solve the 201's problems.. just my opinion
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I agree but no way to know for sure until Gary stops blowing smoke up our asses and actually posts new firmware that is if any actually exist.
For me I'd rather be testing new JB software with a 3.1.x kernel like the one on the Nexus 7 than dicking around with 4.0.3.
The thing is - they say "months". Which is how many, exactly, 3 or 5 or 7 ? And wouldn't it be a little bit unpleasant, if after 3 months of waiting we'd get same crashing crap, like 28 is ?
And damn I hate this secrecy. Honestly, waiting wouldn't be so much of a trouble if I knew what the problem is and what're the chances they're fixed in JB.
No-one would wait if it were for a TV, don't see how it's different for a tablet.
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The thing is - they say "months". Which is how many, exactly, 3 or 5 or 7 ? And wouldn't it be a little bit unpleasant, if after 3 months of waiting we'd get same crashing crap, like 28 is ?
And damn I hate this secrecy. Honestly, waiting wouldn't be so much of a trouble if I knew what the problem is and what're the chances they're fixed in JB.
No-one would wait if it were for a TV, don't see how it's different for a tablet.
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Based on the ASUS previous reputation/track record, which is now further strengthened by the fact they are the official Nexus maker for tablet, we will still see it before anybody else.
Developer Options Limit background processes
I would love to have JB and I keep coming back to the forums to see if there's any good news but never what I want to hear. I too would like to beta test any firmware that came down the pipe.... The one thing I have done and found it on another thread in here, Limit background processes to 4 in Developer Options. It has made all the difference to me on how the tablet runs. Its always quick and runs more like I had hoped. There's always a bunch of nonsense on why the tablet is terribly slow, but this has made me happy until JB comes out. I expect Asus to mess it up and continue to messing it up but when its all said and done I'm still pretty happy!
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I would love to have JB and I keep coming back to the forums to see if there's any good news but never what I want to hear. I too would like to beta test any firmware that came down the pipe.... The one thing I have done and found it on another thread in here, Limit background processes to 4 in Developer Options. It has made all the difference to me on how the tablet runs. Its always quick and runs more like I had hoped. There's always a bunch of nonsense on why the tablet is terribly slow, but this has made me happy until JB comes out. I expect Asus to mess it up and continue to messing it up but when its all said and done I'm still pretty happy!
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Thanks for your tip! I didn't know you can limit background processes =) my prime feels faster now.
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Any news on the new version Gary announced on 16th July 2012?
It seems Gary is too busy dealing with the damage control over on the tf700 forum unfortunately. I think the Prime's are going to take a seat even further back(although I didn't know that was possible)
only info known on it so far from speaking to him.
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Any news on the new version Gary announced on 16th July 2012?
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It will address I/O issues. Could possibly have some JB features/components in it. This is likely the last ICS update before JB. Beta version for testing hasn't released yet because its not ready yet, or at least when I spoke to Gary few days ago.
Remember when this came out on fire sale and everyone was so pumped up to root the touchpad and get Cm 9 running? What's happened, it seems like it's slow down so much! I guess Cm 9 was mostly completed no thanks to HP, and they did a great job. what about jelly bean? We got a preview about a month ago and that's pretty much it. I know Oats have done a few things here and there, but compared to what it used to be, it just seems like this tablet is dying in terms of new development. Is that just the way the cookie crumbles? Should I sell my touchpad and get something newer? Like I said, cm 9 works great I'm just a little disappointed that people moved on so quickly, it's still has great specs for what it is, and for what most of us paid for it. In all honesty, I get scared to pay a donation to devs now, because I feel like they use the money to buy the next great thing and move on, when that is not the intention of the donation. The intent is to thank them for developing and improving roms, not to buy another tablet or phone and move on. Does anyone else feel this way, are my thoughts misguided?
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Yes, things do seem a little slow around here. I kind of just figured because the weather is nice outside that people are just not on XDA as much right now.
I imagine it would be hard to think about Developing when the sun is shining outside.
I think the intention of donations is to thank them for this ROM, today, not to guilt them into developing a future ROM. But by the way, I think CM10 is still being actively developed. There are links to the development updates at BBQLog in the CM10 thread.
I think the nexus 7 happened.
muyoso said:
I think the nexus 7 happened.
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^This
They don't make the Touchpad anymore and a new bargain priced Nexus tablet is out. Also there is still work going on with the Touchpad, CM10 is being worked on which is why the CM9 nightlies have slowed up. Most of what could be done on CM9 has been done, the chances of getting working camera is looking pretty low at this point.
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^This
They don't make the Touchpad anymore and a new bargain priced Nexus tablet is out. Also there is still work going on with the Touchpad, CM10 is being worked on which is why the CM9 nightlies have slowed up. Most of what could be done on CM9 has been done, the chances of getting working camera is looking pretty low at this point.
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Agreed. CM10 has taken focus and CM9 is not being as actively worked on because of it.
reynoben said:
Agreed. CM10 has taken focus and CM9 is not being as actively worked on because of it.
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How come there's no nightlies? I see there's additions on the bbq log, but when I go to cm10 downloads it just takes me to cm9 nightlies
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How come there's no nightlies? I see there's additions on the bbq log, but when I go to cm10 downloads it just takes me to cm9 nightlies
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because it was made clear they would be weeklies instead of nightlife and if there was no significant change directly related to the touchpad there would be no weeklies
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How come there's no nightlies? I see there's additions on the bbq log, but when I go to cm10 downloads it just takes me to cm9 nightlies
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CM-10 for the touchpad is not ready for a nightly yet because many things still do not work (sound, video, mic etc). Under the TouchPad Development forum there is some info on a CM-10 build by Light n Tasty. I am a "junior", so no link posting for me, but the title is:
[ROM] OaT's Light n Tasty: CM9 (07/29), CM10 (08/19)
Once I downloaded the ROM I couldn't flash it in TWRP until I renamed the .zip to match the CM naming convention. If I remember correctly I named it to:
cm-10-20120819-unoffical.zip
I'm just as anxious to get JB going on my TP and Droid3, both of which are progressing very slowly. I have to keep reminding myself that it was indeed months before things were up and stable on either of those devices when ICS came. I am hoping for the best and good things will come to those who wait. Not to put pressure on anyone, but I suspect great things will happen in a couple weeks or so.
Along the lines of the Nexus 7, I think that the general price point for Android tablets (7" and 10") has dropped to the point where the TouchPad isn't the crazy deal that it was, even at $200-250 resale prices. Add to that the fact that TouchPad ICS is basically rock solid aside from the camera driver and there's just not a need for the level of activity we saw in the past when GB and then ICS were first being brought to the device. JB is obviously still a work-in-progress, but it's not the significant leap that ICS was relative to GB where it was an actual tablet-oriented OS instead of a handset-oriented OS running on tablet hardware.
Anyway, I'm not knocking it at all because the TP is a fantastic device with ICS installed, but it makes sense to me that it would slow down as the work has become increasingly more complete and newer, higher-end hardware has reached a competitive price point.
ima disagree yet again. i think dropping interest in a device because something new and shiny comes along makes for a bad development community. and these forums are about keeping devices alive as manufacturers and carriers are so quickly dismissive with their out-with-the-old-in-with-the-new money making attitudes. i dont think we should pose a defeatist withdrawl, defending lack of development by saying "welp, this ones good enough, and the next versions not that big a leap anyways". its a real shame dalingrin isnt as interested in this device any more, and that development seems dead. hopefully there will be a regroup and a few brave men with the skills and talent can kick start it up again. ill be looking forward to the day that this device, which still has a very large market share, gets the interest it deserves.
To be fair the craze wasn't that much on development when the fire sale happened. We only had dalingrin working on it. I'm still surprised jelly bean hasn't moved forward on the touchpad. I thought it was a small jump
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Im sure jcsullis is still working on the touchpad but thats it. From the start we just had a few developers working on the touchpad and those few had more problems "fighting" each other, instead of working together. For example the classicnerds, instead of group up with dalingrin and co. and try to improve what already was there (cyanogenmod), they just created something new with the same bugs -> over-all-progress = 0%.
Very interesting discussions. I enjoy reading everyone's opinion. Jack, I hope someone steps up as well. This still has respectable specs for the $$.
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HP Touchpad was my first tablet device. With CyanogenMod, it was my first Andriod device. If developement stopped today, I still have the life that CM Team Touchpad and other Touchpad Developers breathed into the zombie tablet I purchased from the firesale.
I have a viable ICS tablet that performs 98% of what I need/want. Compare that to webOS and it's dwindling offerings of apps. I find I boot to webOS only for Video Skype.
For the whole Andriod Experiment on my tablet, I can only thank those tireless efforts the Devs shared with the community.
I for one am thankful for what I've reveiced for free. I look forward to a tasty Jelly Bean snack, sometime in the future.
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HP Touchpad was my first tablet device. With CyanogenMod, it was my first Andriod device. If developement stopped today, I still have the life that CM Team Touchpad and other Touchpad Developers breathed into the zombie tablet I purchased from the firesale.
I have a viable ICS tablet that performs 98% of what I need/want. Compare that to webOS and it's dwindling offerings of apps. I find I boot to webOS only for Video Skype.
For the whole Andriod Experiment on my tablet, I can only thank those tireless efforts the Devs shared with the community.
I for one am thankful for what I've reveiced for free. I look forward to a tasty Jelly Bean snack, sometime in the future.
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Agree 100%. Love running CM9 on my TP. If JB comes to it, great. If not, no complaints here.
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^This
They don't make the Touchpad anymore and a new bargain priced Nexus tablet is out. Also there is still work going on with the Touchpad, CM10 is being worked on which is why the CM9 nightlies have slowed up. Most of what could be done on CM9 has been done, the chances of getting working camera is looking pretty low at this point.
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Somebody is working hard on cracking the camera here:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/16347-dev-ics-camera-hd-video-hw-acceleration-fix/page__st__160
After having a good look around I agree there is a huge gap in development here... with AOKP no longer supporting us and now OaT gone too that has left us with just the CM9 weeklies...
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well, they are supposed to be nightlies. but it doesnt get built every night. not even every week at this point. im thinking it may have official support dropped soon.
There doesn't seem to be a whole lot of activity on the Rom front as I'm seeing it.
Is everyone busy getting ready for 4.2?
I'm kinda of jonesing for something to install.
Until we see source for the JB kernel, we are stuck on ICS builds, or JB data using a modified ICS kernel.
But no true JB builds yet....g
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I'm kinda of jonesing for something to install.
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Buy some tile for your kitchen floor.
rangercaptain said:
Buy some tile for your kitchen floor.
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Interesting you say that. Been thinking about re-doing the guest bathroom. Roms are a much cheaper solution but not very productive of my time.
Go for the home upgrade. There, as here, Google is your friend.
itbull said:
There doesn't seem to be a whole lot of activity on the Rom front as I'm seeing it.
Is everyone busy getting ready for 4.2?
I'm kinda of jonesing for something to install.
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If anyone is leading you or anyone to believe 4.2 is an option currently, they are not being honest. Right now the only reason we have JB 4.1.2 is because we are using a modified ICS kernel and ICS proprietary blobs(drivers etc)
These blobs and kernel were enough to get JB 4.1 working but as you can see the best of the best JB ROMs ALL suffer from the same issues.
1. Random reboots
2. Random freezes
3. Video overlay issues in games and video players etc.
So our developers have done a great job with what we have.
Now we have JB 4.2.1
JB 4.2.1 introduces a lot of new features and all new obstacles.
In official JB the proprietary blobs(drivers etc) have changed tremendously from version 4.1 to 4.2.
What does that mean to us Note users?
It means that the ICS proprietary stuff is not going to work in 4.2. I am not saying it is entirely impossible but it pretty much is.
Now what?
Now we need to cross our fingers that Samsung/AT&T release an official JB update for the Note. Even if it is only 4.1.1 or 4.1.2 then we have viable proprietary stuff to work with. Until then don't get your hopes up for JB 4.2 no matter how much people say they are working on it.
There is a reason why no one has even touched it for our device. CM AOKP etc know that the time and effort it is going to take to try and patch together the ICS proprietary stuff isn't worth the end product if it will even boot. I've already compiled a JB 4.2 ROM for the Note and it doesn't even come close to even finish booting.
So everyone cross your fingers and toes for some official JB and when/if it does come, it will be like we all got brand new devices! Until then just don't get your hopes up. Even if we can get it booted with the ICS proprietary stuff its gonna be pretty useless and no way will it be able to be a daily driver.
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Is that why the nightlies had slowed/stopped also?
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Is that why the nightlies had slowed/stopped also?
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I am sure the cm team is concentrating on 4.2 and supported devices. That's not official or anything just speculation. You would need to ask them
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