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FML, the American LTE version is gimped! F YOU SAMSUNG! So who else is looking at the next HTC phone? Seriously, if it's not a Samsung Exynos, I'm not going NEAR it.
The official word I got from Samsung is that the specs for the USA ATT SG3 haven't actually been confirmed yet, so there's some small hope.(small.)
We have a S3 forum now
I really dont know who would buy that phone. Samsung really screwed it up. visual wise. the back looks like a cheap phone. it is round. i was really expecting something else from samsung. i had money saved for it. but im gonna take it to HTC instead and import one of those HTC one X in black. it is really a bad looking phone it looks cheap. nothing about it makes say og hot dam look at that. the i777 looks way better.
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I really dont know who would buy that phone. Samsung really screwed it up. visual wise. the back looks like a cheap phone. it is round. i was really expecting something else from samsung. i had money saved for it. but im gonna take it to HTC instead and import one of those HTC one X in black. it is really a bad looking phone it looks cheap. nothing about it makes say og hot dam look at that. the i777 looks way better.
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Agreed. As with every other Galaxy S line version, I expect the American version (and different carrier designs as well) to look differently. In my opinion, AT&T has always had the more aesthetically pleasing of each iteration (Captivate and our device, in comparison with the Fascinate, etc.). I'm not sure this is salvageable though lol.
In regards to the HTC One X, I guess you don't want the AT&T version?
I am hoping At&t just might release 2 again as with the Skyrocket and OG but thats looking grim. Depending on how much the At&t costs vs. the International, I might just sell the OG S2 and just import, but the S4 chip does seem fast and I am in an area of LTE.
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I like the new s3. Its candy. Og Hspa + quad exynos. Not getting it tho just got my s2 last November so it would be dumb to replace this great phone so soon . Bring on the Note plus next year!
Now Im really glad I bought the OneX.
Lets hope they make the S IV better.
Now, for my thoughts on the SIII... The only thing that got my attention was that half of the announcement was all software related tweaks and improvements. But its still TouchWiz. They made TW hook into the phone deeper than ever and its ugly. I feel they relied more on software and less on hardware.
Samsung should have taken a page from HTC's playbook and scaled back (like HTC did with Sense4) instead of driving the roots of TW even further into the core. Just look how ugly the messaging app is or how laggy and ugly the photo album was when doing burst shot. If they are going to integrate TW into everything, at least make it aesthetically pleasing to the eye.
If they sell an Exynos based version in the US subsidized then I will buy it. I don't live in an LTE area and I get solid 4-11MB/s with my SGS2 which is more than sufficient for my needs. I download AOKP and CM9 directly to my phone and it only takes a couple mins and that is the only time my data speeds are taxed even a little. The need some people have for 20+ MB/s connections seems crazy to me I don't get it. I would MUCH rather have the faster CPU. If there is no US Exynos version of the SGS3 I will probably just wait until 2013 to upgrade.
SGS3 > One X.
One X deal killer: non removable 1800mAH battery and 12GB user accessible built-in storage with no microsd expansion slot.
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SGS3 > One X.
One X deal killer: non removable 1800mAH battery and 12GB user accessible built-in storage with no microsd expansion slot.
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I'll stick to my i777 until my contract is up, then I'll get a SGSIV , which will be better :thumbup:
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I'll stick to my i777 until my contract is up, then I'll get a SGSIV , which will be better :thumbup:
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My thinking exactly
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I'm just gonna buy an iPhone. ROFL.
Nawww just jokin.
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Just saw the One X has a locked boot loader also per ATT. Now that sucks. Hopefully someone cracks it.
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I am very picky about how my phones look. the S3 was on buy list no matter (i was expecting Samsung to come up with a better design than the crap they released), now way in hell i am going to spend on that phone. I hate oval looking phones. HTC One X is oval, but it way better looking than the S3 i got to give it to HTC on this one.
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I am very picky about how my phones look. the S3 was on buy list no matter (i was expecting Samsung to come up with a better design than the crap they released), now way in hell i am going to spend on that phone. I hate oval looking phones. HTC One X is oval, but it way better looking than the S3 i got to give it to HTC on this one.
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I love my new OneX
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You know maybe I'm just a fanboy but I'm sick and tired of people calling the phone ugly, like how many black square slabs do you have to see before you've had enough? I for one am for the new look, I like the ergonomic nature look of it. Sure it didn't blow me away but it's growing on me with every picture and video I see. Oh and for people complaining about TW I really think Samsung focused on the right area for the phone, it's software rather than it's hardware. I mean let's be serious a dual-core S4 would be enough computing power for any smartphone, couple that with LTE and I for one do not care if I get the Quadcore Exynos or the S4. Sure I'd rather have the Exynos Quad and coming from an at&t SGSII I know the power of the Exynos, but I think it's time companies focus on making the phones run better with more features than just beefing up the specs.
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You know maybe I'm just a fanboy but I'm sick and tired of people calling the phone ugly...
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The phone looks fine to me. I would have stuck with an iPhone if I wanted form over function.
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You know maybe I'm just a fanboy but I'm sick and tired of people calling the phone ugly, like how many black square slabs do you have to see before you've had enough? I for one am for the new look, I like the ergonomic nature look of it. Sure it didn't blow me away but it's growing on me with every picture and video I see. Oh and for people complaining about TW I really think Samsung focused on the right area for the phone, it's software rather than it's hardware. I mean let's be serious a dual-core S4 would be enough computing power for any smartphone, couple that with LTE and I for one do not care if I get the Quadcore Exynos or the S4. Sure I'd rather have the Exynos Quad and coming from an at&t SGSII I know the power of the Exynos, but I think it's time companies focus on making the phones run better with more features than just beefing up the specs.
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+another 1. The only reasons I'm not going to get this phone is #1, I don't have an upgrade and I can wait until S4 when that upgrade comes around, and #2, the phone is too big for me. My S2 is already pushing the size limit for me, I love the large HD screen but the fact that the whole phone is bigger than my current one means it's too big for my pocket and my personal taste. I was pretty happy with everything else they included hardware-wise, and very pleasantly surprised by all the new software features, especially because I happen to be a fan of stock TW.
Ehhhhh..... I am the biggest Samsung fanboy ever..... This phone is pretty ugly.... The screen looks alright, the back looks more generic than the Vibrant.... Overall it's ugly compared to the OneX. Average user won't tell but the display in the OneX is nicer than the pentile crap....
Clear cut instances of a company on top has nothing to prove.... Therefore puts out whatever it wants and we accept it as the best. On the other hand a company that was once great fell real hard and now strives to redeem itself.... and did it well. Kudos to HTC.... Samsung will win next time.
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So, I have an Amaze and like it enough. Don't love it, don't hate it. I like it. I want something new though and I am tired of waiting for ICS to drop. I am thinking I want to buy a Galaxy Nexus. Am I crazy? Has anyone here used the Galaxy Nexus and went back to the Amaze? Or is something else that will work on 4G with T-Mobile coming out really soon? Carrier branded or not.
I played around with my friend's Window's phone on 7.5 and it worked really nicely. I couldn't find any "high-end" Windows phones that I liked that work on T-Mobile 4G. Maybe I should stay away from those. Thoughts about a WM phone or the Galaxy Nexus?
Thanks for your input.
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So, I have an Amaze and like it enough. Don't love it, don't hate it. I like it. I want something new though and I am tired of waiting for ICS to drop. I am thinking I want to buy a Galaxy Nexus. Am I crazy? Has anyone here used the Galaxy Nexus and went back to the Amaze? Or is something else that will work on 4G with T-Mobile coming out really soon? Carrier branded or not.
Thanks for your input.
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/02/htc-one-s-review/
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edit: yes, you are crazy for wanting a overpriced phone that is already outdated lol
No you're not crazy man, Just don't switch to a new device just because it has a newer Android OS on it
and lol whenever i see the One S I see an Amaze with a new processor and screen
edit: Widows Phones are fun, I have an HTC Radar and can say that was a great phone, but its just too boring for my tastes, and the lack of classic emulators was disturbing, my HTC Inspire with similar specs ran an NES emulator better than the Radar
I was thinking about for a week. And finally made my decision. Keeping my amaze. The galaxy nexus is sexy but the amaze WILL get ics aosp and sense versions EVENTUALLY. Just be patient. I was looking at galaxy nexus on eBay and they're sooo cheap I was so tempted to click "buy it now". But the amaze is simply better except for the screen (which is arguable) and operating system (which we will get eventually) and probably running smoother than the galaxy nexus.
I'm keeping my amaze until around October
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No you're not crazy man, Just don't switch to a new device just because it has a newer Android OS on it
and lol whenever i see the One S I see an Amaze with a new processor and screen
edit: Widows Phones are fun, I have an HTC Radar and can say that was a great phone, but its just too boring for my tastes, and the lack of classic emulators was disturbing, my HTC Inspire with similar specs ran an NES emulator better than the Radar
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much better camera(s), much better processor, much better os, much much better build, thinner, lighter, much better screen.. I could go on lol, its definitely worth the upgrade (if you have the money). also all the accessories HTC is making for the ONE series is worth the upgrade.
If you don't have money to waste id stick with the amaze though since its not a bad device at all really. im probably upgrading to the Nokia Lumia 900 though I miss me some WP7
edit: how does nes run on wp7? is it playable
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I was thinking about for a week. And finally made my decision. Keeping my amaze. The galaxy nexus is sexy but the amaze WILL get ics aosp and sense versions EVENTUALLY. Just be patient. I was looking at galaxy nexus on eBay and they're sooo cheap I was so tempted to click "buy it now". But the amaze is simply better except for the screen (which is arguable) and operating system (which we will get eventually) and probably running smoother than the galaxy nexus.
I'm keeping my amaze until around October
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the galaxy nexus looks amazing, the camera is a deal breaker for me though =l
NES runs ok on the Radar, about 3/4 speed with the sound on, it should run the same on any WP7 phone with a 1Ghz processor and 512 RAM
and lol i read that the S4 smokes the tegra 3s so I can give you that, and I don't factor OS revisions when I look at newer phones simply because Android = portable most of the time nor accessories either. I just look at build quality and specs and work from there, for the longest time i saw "1.5 dual core, 1 GB RAM, aluminium build, no AT&T 3.5G bands"
gonna inject a lil bias here: I HATE pentile screens, everything looks like its through a fishnet to me lol, and samsung scared me away from any AMOLED screens thanks to their crazy color saturation
camera: More megapixels are great but how good the image sensor is is what counts, Amaze is better in both regards
Edit: call me crazy but I like a slightly heavier phone, helps give me a sense of how durable a phone is, even if it has nothing to do with durability
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NES runs ok on the Radar, about 3/4 speed with the sound on, it should run the same on any WP7 phone with a 1Ghz processor and 512 RAM
and lol i read that the S4 smokes the tegra 3s so I can give you that, and I don't factor OS revisions when I look at newer phones simply because Android = portable most of the time nor accessories either. I just look at build quality and specs and work from there, for the longest time i saw "1.5 dual core, 1 GB RAM, aluminium build, no AT&T 3.5G bands"
gonna inject a lil bias here: I HATE pentile screens, everything looks like its through a fishnet to me lol, and samsung scared me away from any AMOLED screens thanks to their crazy color saturation
camera: More megapixels are great but how good the image sensor is is what counts, Amaze is better in both regards
Edit: call me crazy but I like a slightly heavier phone, helps give me a sense of how durable a phone is, even if it has nothing to do with durability
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Yeah, the lumia 900 should handle it better. RAM doesn't really matter in WP7. i still would prefer 1gb though
benchmarks don't really mean anything. if the hardware isn't optimized for the software then the benchmarks wont be great. I would pick the one x over the one s anyday I don't like aluminum phones. I like polycarbonate plastic much more and the one x has that. i read somewhere that the one s will come with both though.
yeah pentile is horrible, i had the atrix. but, the pentile on the one S isn't noticeable at the slightness. htc did something, they wouldn't make it have a bad screen considering everyone hates the pentile on moto devices.
the one s, and one x have the same camera. the amaze and one s both have 8mp, but the one s has a MUCH better sensor, and a dedicated image chip.. i don't know what you're talking about lol, the camera flys past the amaze. have you seen the sample shots?
edit: megapixels count definitely, it depends on how you use them though. the way Nokia is on the pureview is great. will be the best camera on the mobile phone market. the one series will probably be in 2nd place and leave the amaze in 3rd
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So, I have an Amaze and like it enough. Don't love it, don't hate it. I like it. I want something new though and I am tired of waiting for ICS to drop. I am thinking I want to buy a Galaxy Nexus. Am I crazy? Has anyone here used the Galaxy Nexus and went back to the Amaze? Or is something else that will work on 4G with T-Mobile coming out really soon? Carrier branded or not.
I played around with my friend's Window's phone on 7.5 and it worked really nicely. I couldn't find any "high-end" Windows phones that I liked that work on T-Mobile 4G. Maybe I should stay away from those. Thoughts about a WM phone or the Galaxy Nexus?
Thanks for your input.
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You're not crazy man. Lately I've been thinking about this too.
lol sorry stratax, I was refering to the galaxy nexus with the whole camera comment, I've been really letting my cell phone knowledge slip there after getting the amaze so other than the bare basics I really havent looked into the One series all that heavily, and i thought the one s only had the aluminium shell that was hardened with some sort of high voltage process
and I'm not saying that megapixels aren't all that important, I'm saying there are other factors that contribute to how good a camera sensor is, compare the same photo across all kinds of phones with the same number of megapixels and you'll see a clear difference in the quality is all I'm saying
that nokia phone is rediculous though
Nah your not crazy, I had an amaze with a custom rom but they weren't anything special but a better stock experience. I recently got a galaxy nexus and I love it. HD screen, quality 5MP camera, and ICS plus it has a bigger screen with on screen keys which I like better. Never thought of going back to Amaze, especially with all the roms, mods, & customization but its all depends on your needs
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Nah your not crazy, I had an amaze with a custom rom but they weren't anything special but a better stock experience. I recently got a galaxy nexus and I love it. HD screen, quality 5MP camera, and ICS plus it has a bigger screen with on screen keys which I like better. Never thought of going back to Amaze, especially with all the roms, mods, & customization but its all depends on your needs
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HaHaHa. Is it ever about needs? Nope. For me, at least, it is about getting something new and in some cases, having a phone that not many others in town will have. Before we had 3G/4G on AT&T and TMO, I was buying a new phone every 3 months. Mainly Nokia N series. Remember those bad boys? Buy it, swap out the SIM and go. Now with the different 3G/4G bands on the carriers, it makes it more difficult to just buy a new phone and be happy. This doesn't work, that doesn't work, 2G only, etc. Without fail, the "other" carrier has the phone I want. Then when I switch to get that phone, the "other" carrier I just switched from gets another phone I want. It is never ending and I still to this day have the itch to buy a new phone every couple of months. I swear, I need phone purchasing/carrier switching rehab.
I've had people offer their GNexus for my Amaze and I couldn't justify the trade. The GNexus has a better screen and it's a Google phone and all, but the cons of that phone are too much for me to handle (no microSD slot, terrible camera, etc).
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i've had people offer their gnexus for my amaze and i couldn't justify the trade. The gnexus has a better screen and it's a google phone and all, but the cons of that phone are too much for me to handle (no microsd slot, terrible camera, etc).
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lol sorry stratax, I was refering to the galaxy nexus with the whole camera comment, I've been really letting my cell phone knowledge slip there after getting the amaze so other than the bare basics I really havent looked into the One series all that heavily, and i thought the one s only had the aluminium shell that was hardened with some sort of high voltage process
and I'm not saying that megapixels aren't all that important, I'm saying there are other factors that contribute to how good a camera sensor is, compare the same photo across all kinds of phones with the same number of megapixels and you'll see a clear difference in the quality is all I'm saying
that nokia phone is rediculous though
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oh I was about to say hahah. no, on one CES coverage someone stated that it will come in both polycarbonate and anodized aluminum. still, I would take the IPS SLCD 2 over super amoled pentile ANYDAY
yeah, the sensor is one of the most important things if you have a decent number of pixels. if you had a badass sensor with a vga camera it would look a bit funny lol. speaking of which, the galaxy nexus has crap mp count and sensor xD fail flagship device imo
edit: the most I would pay for the galaxy nexus is 300 and that would never happen lol
ive owned both the amaze and htc evo 4g lte
i notice no difference in picture quality. they both take great pictures
Owned both the Galaxy Nexus & the Amaze. They are both nice phones. However, the Amaze is just a great phone. I do have my complaints such as the battery and the fact that I am on my 4th Amaze (2 would not charge/overheating problem straight out of box, 3rd lost).
The Amaze has got to be one of the most underrated phones I know about.
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I have both the Amaze and the Nexus. Unless Samsung changes how they manufacture their phones, I will never buy another Samsung phone again.
I had my Nexus for about a month when It started exhibiting the famous charging issue. I sent it in for warranty repair (ha), and got it back three weeks later with a note that it had suffered water damage, and therefore my warranty was void. Considering the fact that the phone was never wet, this had to be a bogus claim. I tried correcting this to no avail - it's obvious that Samsung doesn't stand behind their products.
I was able to pick up an Amaze for $69 through Target, and I'm glad I'm back with HTC. The build of the phone is so much better than either the Nexus or the GS II that I have owned, and the camera is the best camera I've seen in a smartphone.
The only negative I have regarding the Amaze is Sense - I would love a stable vanilla ROM that has everything working....
But I digress - I would not recommend going from the Amaze to the Nexus to anyone.
Hey guys i cant decide if i should get the sgs3 or stick with my rezound. with money aside, what would you guys do? why is the sgs3 so hyped and is it even going to be better?
the rezound has 1.5 ghz dual core while sgs3 had 1.4 dual core. both have 8mp cameras.
idk they just seem similar and idk why this phone has so much anticipation.
any feedback would help
It's all what you really enjoy personaly I loved My epic 4G touch (sprints galaxy s2) and had to swap because sprint dropped signal in my area I like the rezound but I belive Samsung is geared to what I like and they give you more freedom on your phone.
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Save your money get the next nexus and profit.
i've been through like 6 rezound so usually i can convince VZW to replace me with a new device. I can't decide though if it would be smart if i should try to get the samsung or just keep the rezound
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i've been through like 6 rezound so usually i can convince VZW to replace me with a new device. I can't decide though if it would be smart if i should try to get the samsung or just keep the rezound
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If you test the signal in stores or something and it's good id go for it. Grabbing your the gs3.
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Go for sgs3
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well the speed of the dual core might be similar but they're running different chips, whihc apparently makes quite a difference in speed and supposedly in battery life too. but one thing samsung has had issues with on cdma from a lot of people's experiences i've read about is poor signal. for whatevre reason they seem to have trouble making good cdma radios.
If you don't like sense, want a thinner phone go with the gs3. If you want a better screen and sense stay with the Rez. I am 90% sure I am sticking with the Rez for now at least but I'll see what else is lined up for the fall/holiday time frame.
I think the biggest thing to consider between the two devices is the size, weight, and the battery life. SG3 has an edge on all of these 3 areas.
the screen on the SG3 can be too big for some people but if you like large phone, then it's the obvious choice. While SG3 is 1.2, it should actually runs faster due to the newer cpu.
personally if I would buying a new phone, I would choose SG3 over Rezound simply because it has newer technology and hopefully will support future os upgrade. The advantage with rezound of course is the ROM development.
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I think the biggest thing to consider between the two devices is the size, weight, and the battery life. SG3 has an edge on all of these 3 areas.
the screen on the SG3 can be too big for some people but if you like large phone, then it's the obvious choice. While SG3 is 1.2, it should actually runs faster due to the newer cpu.
personally if I would buying a new phone, I would choose SG3 over Rezound simply because it has newer technology and hopefully will support future os upgrade. The advantage with rezound of course is the ROM development.
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Isn't the SG3 1.5ghz similar to the Rezound? It just has a different chipset.
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if i had the money to burn id buy the sg3. i've found sense much more bloated than it used to be on my dinc and i believe its actually gotten worse rather than better. I never thought i'd say it but id say bring on touchwiz(even though u might be better getting the nexus still)
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Isn't the SG3 1.5ghz similar to the Rezound? It just has a different chipset.
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yes, 1.5ghz, according to Verizon website anyhow.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/...t&action=viewPhoneDetail&selectedPhoneId=5918
okay then. ill try to convince VZW to get me a sgs3 lol. who knows if they will but since ive been through so many phones.... they gotta have sympathy
I upgrade in august and I will probably either go Incredible 4g or go for a nexus. The samsung interface doesn't appeal to me and I am not a hardware nazi. Give me a phone that doesn't have interface lag and I am happy. the most powerful apps i use is probably my browser.
The sgsiii just doesn't look good as a phone looks wise. also after watching some of the break tests and system teardown videos, I'm afraid its gonna be as fraile as the iphone 3g was.
I recommend waiting to see what Google does with ASUS this fall-ish. The padfone looks pretty awesome.
My vote is for rezound.
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just curious. why?
For the record, the dual core in the SGS3 completely destroys the one in the Rezound, also 2GB of RAM is basically future proofing you for years.
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just curious. why?
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Cause its a great phone with at least another 18 months of good life left. ICS hasn't even hit yet, and when it does there will be a huge resurgence of development. The screen is still the best one out there IMO, and I really love HTCs design style.
That, and the SGSIII is fugly. Extremely fugly.
Galaxy S3 has the Snapdragon S4 chipset, while the Rezound has the S3 chipset. With equal clock speeds, the S4 can be up to 50% faster than the S3. Overall the GS3 will blow the Rezound out of the water in terms of speed. It also has twice as much RAM and a larger battery. If you could get one for $200, I would do it. With its specs the GS3 seems like a phone that will still be decent 2 years down the line. I'm not so certain about my Rezound 2 years later. At full price I probably would just stick with the Rezound. The only two negatives for the GS3 would be the really large size, and the screen quality is likely a small step down from the Rezound (although 0.5" bigger). One other potential negative is TouchWiz, though I don't know how it compares to Sense 3.6 or 4.0.
S3 is bigger, faster, and has better battery life. I'm dropping the Rezound for it. UI lag drives me insane, and Sense seems like it will always have it, even though its only a split second lag from pressing phone and loading the dialer, I want instant loads like the iphone, and Sense doesn't do it.
Hi, today I switched from Sprint to AT&T after waiting for the samsung galaxy SIII to come out on Sprint decided to get the Note on AT&T. I know the hardware on the Note is older but I really needed a bigger screen and only the Note will provide that.
What do you guys think?, did I did the right thing to dump the SIII for the Note???
You are asking this question on Note forum so the answer may be one sided to note. It's all depending on the size of the phone. If you like the big screen, there's no other phone come close to note. Hardware may be a bit older than s3 but with custom Rom and a bit tweaking, it is as fast as s3. I have almost zero lag on mine with flap rom. Most of the s3 softwares are also ported so you can find svoice, smart stay etc that are floating on xda and ready to use.
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You are asking this question on Note forum so the answer may be one sided to note. It's all depending on the size of the phone. If you like the big screen, there's no other phone come close to note. Hardware may be a bit older than s3 but with custom Rom and a bit tweaking, it is as fast as s3. I have almost zero lag on mine with flap rom. Most of the s3 softwares are also ported so you can find svoice, smart stay etc that are floating on xda and ready to use.
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Thank you. that's what I was talking about. I like and need the big screen due to my sight. was not too impress with the SIII screen wich looks more rectangular than square. I'm punish now with a AT&T prepay phone due to an error the salesman did with my credit card wich he locked up in a transaction so I have to wait until tomorrow that everything is clear and pick up my Note.
I came from sprint as well and I dearly miss unlimited data (even if it isn't really all that unlimited). Other than that I am very happy with at&t.
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I came from sprint as well and I dearly miss unlimited data (even if it isn't really all that unlimited). Other than that I am very happy with at&t.
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Yes!, also missing about $30 more a month!!. AT&T is more expensive buy I need a bigger screen.
welcome to the note! I, too, came from sprint (epic touch) and I love my note. its one of a kind and im glad I got it. yes, the bill is 35 $ a month higher for me but I have better speeds where I live on att and did I say i love my note?
anyway, im glad your here. have some fun, and happy flashing!
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welcome to the note! I, too, came from sprint (epic touch) and I love my note. its one of a kind and im glad I got it. yes, the bill is 35 $ a month higher for me but I have better speeds where I live on att and did I say i love my note?
anyway, im glad your here. have some fun, and happy flashing!
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FINALY!!!! I GOT MY NOTE TODAY!!!!!::victory:. I was using a cheap Go phone until my credit clear and now REJOYCE!!!!!!!!!!!.
Former epic (not touch) addict
Definitely glad to have my note, but now I'm curious what family the note hardware is in - I had assumed it was a galaxy SII class device, where do we fit in?
It is similar to the SII (S2) - the OP is referring to the SIII - that's the S3
To the OP:
Your question is based largely on opinion and not fact. Firstly, welcome. I am also a Sprint defector who left in March so I could get the Note, and hopefully, better service. So far, the service slaughters Sprint ... as does pretty much everything else.
Next, there really isn't a right or wrong answer as to what phone is better, when comparing the GNote and S III. You'll find some people who are spec whores and it doesn't matter how useful/useless a spec or feature is, as long as it's more impressive on paper or when uttered, it will be the say all to end all for them. Other people look at features that may better for THEM, regardless if technically the specs aren't as good.
Some people will like the S III because of its faster processor and better camera features and ICS. Plus, some will choose the S III because of its smaller form factor. Others (like me) will choose the GNote because the large screen is unmatched and the most important thing to me ... ICS isn't a big deal to me, the phone functions wonderfully without it. And I love the S-Pen. Not to mention I find the GNote to be crazy beautiful in design, whereas I find the S III to be relatively ugly. All of these things make the GNote the better phone FOR ME.
With all things considered, I don't think you'll go wrong with either phone. I'm sticking to the GNote series, though. I may have to look for another phone if the GNote 2 really does end up looking like the unattractive S III, and if it's not as wide as the original GNote.
^^^well said!
I also came from Sprint, and am very pleased with the note and the service.
My opinion is...........
Quad/dual core processors are great, but the average user doesn't need more than one core. Unless you're gaming, making music or media editing all you need is a decent amount of RAM. Don't let the smooth taste fool ya =P I like the specs on this phone, but the biggest selling point for me was the screen size.
Like the last guy said you will be pleased with either device Imo, but get the one that fits you.
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To the OP:
Your question is based largely on opinion and not fact. Firstly, welcome. I am also a Sprint defector who left in March so I could get the Note, and hopefully, better service. So far, the service slaughters Sprint ... as does pretty much everything else.
Next, there really isn't a right or wrong answer as to what phone is better, when comparing the GNote and S III. You'll find some people who are spec whores and it doesn't matter how useful/useless a spec or feature is, as long as it's more impressive on paper or when uttered, it will be the say all to end all for them. Other people look at features that may better for THEM, regardless if technically the specs aren't as good.
Some people will like the S III because of its faster processor and better camera features and ICS. Plus, some will choose the S III because of its smaller form factor. Others (like me) will choose the GNote because the large screen is unmatched and the most important thing to me ... ICS isn't a big deal to me, the phone functions wonderfully without it. And I love the S-Pen. Not to mention I find the GNote to be crazy beautiful in design, whereas I find the S III to be relatively ugly. All of these things make the GNote the better phone FOR ME.
With all things considered, I don't think you'll go wrong with either phone. I'm sticking to the GNote series, though. I may have to look for another phone if the GNote 2 really does end up looking like the unattractive S III, and if it's not as wide as the original GNote.
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First, thank's for your opinion. I agree with what you have said. it's a matter of personal taste. for me any phone with 1 Gig of more of processing power is ok, I chose the Note because the screen size. on Sunday I saw the SIII at the store and althou it look good did not impress me much. I still would like the personal opinions of users of the Note. any info will be valuable to me.
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With all things considered, I don't think you'll go wrong with either phone. I'm sticking to the GNote series, though. I may have to look for another phone if the GNote 2 really does end up looking like the unattractive S III, and if it's not as wide as the original GNote.
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Has there been talk about the note 2 having a smaller screen than the original note?
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Okay the Note is too big...but as much as I wanted to go to a smaller phone (the S3) I cannot. I am hopelessly hooked on it's 5.3" of screen and the pen. So be warned...
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Has there been talk about the note 2 having a smaller screen than the original note?
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I read it's supposed to be a 5.5" screen so it will be slightly larger (different aspect ratio).
I read that the device will be slightly smaller than the Note, bit will have a slightly bigger screen. So it seems it will be more space efficient.
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Has there been talk about the note 2 having a smaller screen than the original note?
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Galaxy Note 2 – xda developers
Slightly bigger 5.5" screen (most likely taller) with a 16:9 aspect ratio ... but the screen will not be as wide as the current Note. That was a big selling point for me. I don't want a slimmer screen.
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...Some people will like the S III because of its faster processor and better camera features and ICS. ... ICS isn't a big deal to me, the phone functions wonderfully without it...
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the GNote rocks ICS just fine, actually.... not missing a thing.
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the GNote rocks ICS just fine, actually.... not missing a thing.
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what he said...
with the great dev's we have on this phone, most of us have been running ICS for weeks/months now, so thats not even an issue.
this phone is as fast as you could want, and the screen just kills..Spen is a great tool as well, phone calls are loud and clear.
and, after suffering with Sprints horrific network problems over the last 10 year, ATT speeds and QOS are a tremendous "upgrade"
Pleasure or business, this is THE phone to have, IMO
Slightly bigger 5.5" screen (most likely taller) with a 10:9 aspect ratio ... but the screen will not be as wide as the current Note. That was a big selling point for me. I don't want a slimmer screen.[/QUOTE said:
Agree.
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Slightly bigger 5.5" screen (most likely taller) with a 10:9 aspect ratio ... but the screen will not be as wide as the current Note. That was a big selling point for me. I don't want a slimmer screen.
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You mean 16:9 aspect ratio? Regardless, I agree about not wanting a narrower phone even if it means a larger screen. That info actually helped me to finally pull the trigger on one recently.
My initial impression is very positive. The display is amazing, 4G is blazing fast, and an unexpected benefit has been better phone reception than my Nexus One.
My complaint is the Note seems a little laggy out of the box but that's without rooting or ROMing, just the addition of Go Launcher. And it's minor enough that I'm holding off rooting at least until the OTA ICS update.
It's practically a cliche at this point, but like everyone else, I could never go back to a smaller display. And I personally don't find the phone hard to operate one-handed.
This isn't the typical, which phone should i buy or why question, i'm doing a project on how important brand recognition is so I'm just really curious if you guys will help. So why did you all buy the OG over the other top phones that were out when you bought it? Also, how important are the manufacturer added features/skins (gimmicks, really) to you when you're buying a phone? (Such as the Q stuff on our LG phones or the S stuff on Samsungs, ect....)
Any responses will be helpful and appreciated
Why lgog?
HTC one x+: lgog has expandable storage and better processor
Galaxy S3: lgog has a better design and better processor
Galaxy Note 2: Size lol
Its way to big ...
And because the lgog is similar to the nexus 4 and I expected some development benefits their and a lot of people have the s3 and I wanted something different
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Compared other phones. The quad core processor, 2GB ram, 16GB internal and 16GB microSD killed the competition for the comparable price of $99. The 4.7" screen is nice, not to big, not to small. The carbon fiber look back was a nice bonus, even though I soon found out the back glass cracks so easily :-/
The overall look and feel of the phone really caught my eye also.
My wife has the S2 and I came from an Infuse, which was a great phone, just wanted something different than Samsung. I had never owned an LG phone...
All in all, I love the phone, especially the performance, the only downfall for me is how easily the back glass broke.
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I bought the OG for a number of reasons:
Price ($99 contract)
Similarity to the Nexus 4 (development!)
Size
Design, it feels/looks like a solid brick.
But, you're doing a project on brand recognition. So I'll focus more on that.
At first, I was skeptical about buying an LG phone. I considered the One X+, and even the iPhone 5 (shudder). I gave LG a shot though because they built the Nexus 4. If it wasn't for the nexus 4, I wouldn't have bought this device. Brand recognition is important, but you gotta give others a chance. :good:
I've had all three of the others and this is by far the best...
One X/X+ has issues with lag, non-expandable storage, poor battery life, but one amazing screen.
S3 is nice, but it does have that over saturated AMOLED screen. The LCD on the LGOG is much better to my horrid eyes. Almost as good as the One X series, but not quite.
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Why lgog?
HTC one x+: lgog has expandable storage and better processor
Galaxy S3: lgog has a better design and better processor
Galaxy Note 2: Size lol
Its way to big ...
And because the lgog is similar to the nexus 4 and I expected some development benefits their and a lot of people have the s3 and I wanted something different
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Compared other phones. The quad core processor, 2GB ram, 16GB internal and 16GB microSD killed the competition for the comparable price of $99. The 4.7" screen is nice, not to big, not to small. The carbon fiber look back was a nice bonus, even though I soon found out the back glass cracks so easily :-/
The overall look and feel of the phone really caught my eye also.
My wife has the S2 and I came from an Infuse, which was a great phone, just wanted something different than Samsung. I had never owned an LG phone...
All in all, I love the phone, especially the performance, the only downfall for me is how easily the back glass broke.
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I bought the OG for a number of reasons:
Price ($99 contract)
Similarity to the Nexus 4 (development!)
Size
Design, it feels/looks like a solid brick.
But, you're doing a project on brand recognition. So I'll focus more on that.
At first, I was skeptical about buying an LG phone. I considered the One X+, and even the iPhone 5 (shudder). I gave LG a shot though because they built the Nexus 4. If it wasn't for the nexus 4, I wouldn't have bought this device. Brand recognition is important, but you gotta give others a chance. :good:
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I've had all three of the others and this is by far the best...
One X/X+ has issues with lag, non-expandable storage, poor battery life, but one amazing screen.
S3 is nice, but it does have that over saturated AMOLED screen. The LCD on the LGOG is much better to my horrid eyes. Almost as good as the One X series, but not quite.
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Let me just ask one more question, if you guys don't mind responding (i'll probably update the original post with it too) but, how important are the manufacturer added features (gimmicks, really) to you when you're buying a phone? Such as the Q stuff on our LG phones or the S stuff on Samsungs, ect....
Btw, thanks again guys, this is helpful! :good:
crward said:
Let me just ask one more question, if you guys don't mind responding (i'll probably update the original post with it too) but, how important are the manufacturer added features (gimmicks, really) to you when you're buying a phone? Such as the Q stuff on our LG phones or the S stuff on Samsungs, ect....
Btw, thanks again guys, this is helpful! :good:
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Not at all. I've always rooted and installed AOSP ROMs if possible ASAP
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Let me just ask one more question, if you guys don't mind responding (i'll probably update the original post with it too) but, how important are the manufacturer added features (gimmicks, really) to you when you're buying a phone? Such as the Q stuff on our LG phones or the S stuff on Samsungs, ect....
Btw, thanks again guys, this is helpful! :good:
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Not really inpotaint at all......But now that I have the phone I find some of the features useful
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Not really inpotaint at all......But now that I have the phone I find some of the features useful
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Yeah i find most of the features manufacturers add to be a turn off... lol but LG's done a pretty good job, they have a pretty light skin and it's nice. Not even missing AOSP all that much on this thing. I have tried SnowJB though, but just keep coming back to stock, rooted.
Chose the Optimus G over the One X+ becuause I previously owned the one X and didnt enjoy the interface. I chose the Optimus G over the Galaxy s3 because everyone and their mother had one....BTW I wonder how all thoese people feel now that samsung did a evolution instead of a revolution to their phones. All I remember is everyone bashing the 5 for not innovating and the s4 gives us infared and a few extra gimmicks(Ignoring the hardware of course). Sorry just had a side rant. I just wish people will be fair about things. Android excels in having a moddable device with lots of options and apple excels in having the whole phone/music player/internet things down packed along with design.
I really feel like this phone is the biggest hidden gem of anything out there right now. I like owning a phone that very few others even know about. I had the Note 2 and original One X, so nothing against those phones at all. LG had nothing to do with my decision one way or the other.
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LGOG
I was coming from an old school Inspire 4G and was desperately in need of a new phone. I did want the HTC One, but it kept getting delayed and I finally ran out of patience. I've never been a fan of Samsung devices, they feel flimsy to me and Touchwiz is a horrible skin IMO. Therefore, none of the Galaxy devices were even in consideration. I did consider the One X+, but was kind of turned off by the stories of battery life. Also, it only had 1 gig of system RAM, compared to the OG's 2 gigs. So in essence, the quad core processor, 2 gigs of memory, 16 gigs internal storage + the SD card slot and solid construction with no flex (looking at you, Samsung) along with the low price sealed the deal for me.
That help?
I bought this phone despite LG not because of them. One of the big knocks against them is their slow software updates, and combine that with AT&T's piss poor track record for releasing updates, I knew what I was getting into. I'm hoping the dev support continues so I don't have to rely on LG and AT&T for anything.
I have to stick with AT&T unfortunately as they are the only national carrier in Alaska, so unless I want an iPhone, they are the only one who has the latest phones. Local telecoms are a year or two behind the curve with their hardware, although they seem to be getting better, which is why I bought this phone outright so I could use Straight Talk without a contract.
I chose the OG for the same reasons everyone else has stated: great screen, blazing performance, and expandable storage. The LG skin isn't intrusive or as dated as most of the competition's are.
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This isn't the typical, which phone should i buy or why question, i'm doing a project on how important brand recognition is so I'm just really curious if you guys will help. So why did you all buy the OG over the other top phones that were out when you bought it? Also, how important are the manufacturer added features/skins (gimmicks, really) to you when you're buying a phone? (Such as the Q stuff on our LG phones or the S stuff on Samsungs, ect....)
Any responses will be helpful and appreciated
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I bought the og because it had the best specs. I did lots of research as I came from iPhone so I wanted a really good android to replace it. I considered the S3, OX+, and OG. I ruled out the S3 because of the dual core processor, and the OX+ because of limited ram, and the 8 app max. I don't care for the added features. For example, wise screen has never worked correctly for me.
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I didn't even know about any of these features until after I bought the phone. I almost always immediately root and flash a custom Rom the first day. So all that fancy stuff doesn't really interest me much
Thought I am rooted on this phone, I am still running stock.. I am really impressed with the functionality and smoothness. And after learning about the little features, I am enjoying playing around with them
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I'll have to admit I jumped ship I had a s3 and sold it and bought a unlocked OG only had it two days haven't rooted yet but I will the OG does everything the S3 does only better it's faster smoother and better looking like the difference between a 350 and a 454 there is no sub for horsepower and the LG has it all ( until tomorrow when something else comes out )
As has been stated by many:
better processor
better "feel" (didn't feel cheap like the S3)
liked the LG UI over other manufacturer UI's
screen, esp the width (wider than other 4.7" displays)
I got this instead of the S3 because TouchWiz looks more like a toy than a phone. If I had gone for anything Samsung, it would have been the Galaxy Nexus, which likely won't run all that well in two years comparatively. Also, this phone was the sane price as the GalNex when I got it.
HTC Sense is okay, but I've always hated how the One X(+) look physically. Plus HTC is too damn confusing to the point where someone who's done the research still wasn't sure what he'd have been getting...
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I don't have this phone but what got my attention was the LG design. If you have looked at the Optimus 4x or G2X both of these phones were the first of its kind. G2X with a dual core CPU. O4X with Tegra 3 Quad Core CPU. LG doesn't really advertise their product too well, but I think that a good benefit. even tho they tend to take their time with updating their software I preferred it that way. Samsung sometimes pushed out a new update with more bugs then it original had. Also I never was interested in Samsung touchwiz. LG UI has a better feel to then Samsung UI. HTC sense I never liked, however it kinda reminds me of a MIUI, but MIUI is a hell of a lot better then sense.
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I came from a Samsung non-smartphone so I was really interested in the S3 at first, until I saw one for real. It seemed so huge at the time... and plastic. So I shopped around for a smaller phone. I was all for Motorola as well having good experience with their non-smartphones, and I was willing to go with HTC as well. LG was not high on my list of desirability. But when it came down to it, anything smaller had significantly inferior specs compared to the top tier phones, and the OG had an unbeatable combination of features, specs, and price.
Since this was my first smartphone, I had no affinity for any manufacturer's skins, and all I cared about was how potentially offensive LG's was, and it gets pretty good reviews for being minimalistic.
I've had the DNA since day 1, and I really like it. I'm one of those guys that likes to have the latest and greatest phone, and was excited when the S4 was first announced. But seeing as how it's just a quad-core, not an octa-core, my excitement has weened a bit. I'm really trying to decide whether or not I should upgrade. The only pluses I see from the S4 are expandable memory, better battery, and the camera. I also kind of like how the LED screens look. I don't really care about the special bells and whistles. ( Eye detection, touchless answering, ect)
I know this is a the DNA section, so most of us are biased, but in reality, should I upgrade or just hold onto my DNA and wait for the next big thing?
It sounds like a feature packed phone, however I would probably end up disabling most of them. If you really want to use an external sd card and removeable battery then the S4 is for you.
Don't feel disappointed because it doesn't have the Octo-core, I can't think if any situation that would need that much processing power. However there was a review that said the S4 wasn't as smooth/snappy as the One and this was blamed on Touchwiz and all those extra features in the phone.
I've always been a die hard HTC guy, coming from the Incredible to the Rezound and finally the DNA. However, I did have a brief Samsung affair...in between my Rezound and my DNA I had a Galaxy S3, and I really liked it a lot. There was just something about it that I really loved...I couldn't put my finger on what it was.
But when the newness wore off, I was left with a device I had to use day in and day out, and relied on to make and receive calls. That's where the Samsung started to show its weakness. After that experience, combined with the experiences some friends and family had with their Fascinates, there's no way I'd give up my HTC for a similarly spec'ed Samsung. Their components just aren't as good, especially their radios.
I have no doubt the S4 would be an amazing device and you'd surely love it, but in the end when the honeymoon is over, you'll have a very marginal spec upgrade over the DNA and you'll be stuck with Samsung's mediocre internals.
Just my two cents.
I do like the S4 (and S3), but the only reason I would switch is for removable memory. But the fact is that I stream all of my music and movies... that leaves me more than enough room for anything else.
Love my DNA until the new hotness comes out.
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It sounds like a feature packed phone, however I would probably end up disabling most of them. If you really want to use an external sd card and removeable battery then the S4 is for you.
Don't feel disappointed because it doesn't have the Octo-core, I can't think if any situation that would need that much processing power. However there was a review that said the S4 wasn't as smooth/snappy as the One and this was blamed on Touchwiz and all those extra features in the phone.
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You can't use all 8 cores at once anyway. It's 2 separate 4 core processors, 1 4 core high power one and a 4 core low power one.
The majority of the new features on the S4 are really gimmicky. Hover instead of touching the actual screen, moving your head up and down to scroll. All sound fun, but in real life are completely useless and more work than the normal way of getting stuff done on your phone. So really it'd just be a matter of specs, in which case the S4 in my opinion doesn't have a lot over the DNA.
probably shouldnt expect completely unbiased reviews from a dna forum.
ask the same question in the s4 forum and you'll get different answers and maybe a response from somebody who switched from dna to s4 and why.
good luck.
No reason whatsoever
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One word.. "resale". The sooner you upgrade, the more money you get. The easier it is to stay on top of the cell phone game.
Plus, galaxies seem to hold their value a little better than HTC.
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One word.. "resale". The sooner you upgrade, the more money you get. The easier it is to stay on top of the cell phone game.
Plus, galaxies seem to hold their value a little better than HTC.
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That's sort of what I was thinking. But even if I get $350-$400 for my DNA, I still have to spend a good bit for the galaxy. Retail on those is pretty steep.
The overwhelming adaption from devs, removable battery/storage will do it for me.
The thing that pushes it over the edge is that all models (except AT&T's, and the ones that have shown up so far) have unlocked bootloaders from the get-go in true Samsung style.
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The overwhelming adaption from devs, removable battery/storage will do it for me.
The thing that pushes it over the edge is that all US models have unlocked bootloaders from the get-go in true Samsung style.
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Att and vzw don't unless that's changed.
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Att and vzw don't unless that's changed.
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AT&T doesn't, but all of the rest are. While that doesn't give good hopes for Verizon, since it hasn't actually shown up yet to anyone, even if it is locked, it wouldn't be very long before it's cracked open.
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AT&T doesn't, but all of the rest are. While that doesn't give good hopes for Verizon, since it hasn't actually shown up yet to anyone, even if it is locked, it wouldn't be very long before it's cracked open.
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Thought someone mentioned Samsung said those were both locked, can't remember where I saw it though...
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No reason at all. A marginal upgrade and sans the gimmicky features, an inferior UI. My opinion only.
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Yup. Because specs are an upgrade, despite how marginal... Extreme dev support. And cmon, who wouldnt live to use their phone instead of looking for the tv remote
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In the att thread someone reported the s4 locked not sure how credible it is but having had the s3 both variants and the EVO LTE most of what Sammy offers is gimmicks Ull show ur friends for a few weeks than get bored . HTC ones design is amazing the feel the solidness screen is great I'm getting the I9500 cause I hate the US galaxy threads to much comparing infact with my I9300 way to many US users trolled and or flashed roms bricking there phones that was annoying . I'd wait to go in test it out than decide .
Sorry for rambling
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Verizon had no news about it but I read on Android Central the Qualcomm s4 has a root method. Idk about the ****loader.
http://www.androidcentral.com/qualcomm-based-galaxy-s4-models-now-have-root-method
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If it comes to Verizon expect it to be locked.
I'd hate to have to switch carriers because of locked phones. I will go back to Sprint if I have too. Find out in October when all of my contracts will be up. Verizon LTE is great but I don't use it enough to suffer with Verizon's BS not sure who they think they are but they aren't the only wireless carrier in the US.