I've had the DNA since day 1, and I really like it. I'm one of those guys that likes to have the latest and greatest phone, and was excited when the S4 was first announced. But seeing as how it's just a quad-core, not an octa-core, my excitement has weened a bit. I'm really trying to decide whether or not I should upgrade. The only pluses I see from the S4 are expandable memory, better battery, and the camera. I also kind of like how the LED screens look. I don't really care about the special bells and whistles. ( Eye detection, touchless answering, ect)
I know this is a the DNA section, so most of us are biased, but in reality, should I upgrade or just hold onto my DNA and wait for the next big thing?
It sounds like a feature packed phone, however I would probably end up disabling most of them. If you really want to use an external sd card and removeable battery then the S4 is for you.
Don't feel disappointed because it doesn't have the Octo-core, I can't think if any situation that would need that much processing power. However there was a review that said the S4 wasn't as smooth/snappy as the One and this was blamed on Touchwiz and all those extra features in the phone.
I've always been a die hard HTC guy, coming from the Incredible to the Rezound and finally the DNA. However, I did have a brief Samsung affair...in between my Rezound and my DNA I had a Galaxy S3, and I really liked it a lot. There was just something about it that I really loved...I couldn't put my finger on what it was.
But when the newness wore off, I was left with a device I had to use day in and day out, and relied on to make and receive calls. That's where the Samsung started to show its weakness. After that experience, combined with the experiences some friends and family had with their Fascinates, there's no way I'd give up my HTC for a similarly spec'ed Samsung. Their components just aren't as good, especially their radios.
I have no doubt the S4 would be an amazing device and you'd surely love it, but in the end when the honeymoon is over, you'll have a very marginal spec upgrade over the DNA and you'll be stuck with Samsung's mediocre internals.
Just my two cents.
I do like the S4 (and S3), but the only reason I would switch is for removable memory. But the fact is that I stream all of my music and movies... that leaves me more than enough room for anything else.
Love my DNA until the new hotness comes out.
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It sounds like a feature packed phone, however I would probably end up disabling most of them. If you really want to use an external sd card and removeable battery then the S4 is for you.
Don't feel disappointed because it doesn't have the Octo-core, I can't think if any situation that would need that much processing power. However there was a review that said the S4 wasn't as smooth/snappy as the One and this was blamed on Touchwiz and all those extra features in the phone.
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You can't use all 8 cores at once anyway. It's 2 separate 4 core processors, 1 4 core high power one and a 4 core low power one.
The majority of the new features on the S4 are really gimmicky. Hover instead of touching the actual screen, moving your head up and down to scroll. All sound fun, but in real life are completely useless and more work than the normal way of getting stuff done on your phone. So really it'd just be a matter of specs, in which case the S4 in my opinion doesn't have a lot over the DNA.
probably shouldnt expect completely unbiased reviews from a dna forum.
ask the same question in the s4 forum and you'll get different answers and maybe a response from somebody who switched from dna to s4 and why.
good luck.
No reason whatsoever
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One word.. "resale". The sooner you upgrade, the more money you get. The easier it is to stay on top of the cell phone game.
Plus, galaxies seem to hold their value a little better than HTC.
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One word.. "resale". The sooner you upgrade, the more money you get. The easier it is to stay on top of the cell phone game.
Plus, galaxies seem to hold their value a little better than HTC.
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That's sort of what I was thinking. But even if I get $350-$400 for my DNA, I still have to spend a good bit for the galaxy. Retail on those is pretty steep.
The overwhelming adaption from devs, removable battery/storage will do it for me.
The thing that pushes it over the edge is that all models (except AT&T's, and the ones that have shown up so far) have unlocked bootloaders from the get-go in true Samsung style.
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The overwhelming adaption from devs, removable battery/storage will do it for me.
The thing that pushes it over the edge is that all US models have unlocked bootloaders from the get-go in true Samsung style.
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Att and vzw don't unless that's changed.
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Att and vzw don't unless that's changed.
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AT&T doesn't, but all of the rest are. While that doesn't give good hopes for Verizon, since it hasn't actually shown up yet to anyone, even if it is locked, it wouldn't be very long before it's cracked open.
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AT&T doesn't, but all of the rest are. While that doesn't give good hopes for Verizon, since it hasn't actually shown up yet to anyone, even if it is locked, it wouldn't be very long before it's cracked open.
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Thought someone mentioned Samsung said those were both locked, can't remember where I saw it though...
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No reason at all. A marginal upgrade and sans the gimmicky features, an inferior UI. My opinion only.
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Yup. Because specs are an upgrade, despite how marginal... Extreme dev support. And cmon, who wouldnt live to use their phone instead of looking for the tv remote
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In the att thread someone reported the s4 locked not sure how credible it is but having had the s3 both variants and the EVO LTE most of what Sammy offers is gimmicks Ull show ur friends for a few weeks than get bored . HTC ones design is amazing the feel the solidness screen is great I'm getting the I9500 cause I hate the US galaxy threads to much comparing infact with my I9300 way to many US users trolled and or flashed roms bricking there phones that was annoying . I'd wait to go in test it out than decide .
Sorry for rambling
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Verizon had no news about it but I read on Android Central the Qualcomm s4 has a root method. Idk about the ****loader.
http://www.androidcentral.com/qualcomm-based-galaxy-s4-models-now-have-root-method
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If it comes to Verizon expect it to be locked.
I'd hate to have to switch carriers because of locked phones. I will go back to Sprint if I have too. Find out in October when all of my contracts will be up. Verizon LTE is great but I don't use it enough to suffer with Verizon's BS not sure who they think they are but they aren't the only wireless carrier in the US.
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FML, the American LTE version is gimped! F YOU SAMSUNG! So who else is looking at the next HTC phone? Seriously, if it's not a Samsung Exynos, I'm not going NEAR it.
The official word I got from Samsung is that the specs for the USA ATT SG3 haven't actually been confirmed yet, so there's some small hope.(small.)
We have a S3 forum now
I really dont know who would buy that phone. Samsung really screwed it up. visual wise. the back looks like a cheap phone. it is round. i was really expecting something else from samsung. i had money saved for it. but im gonna take it to HTC instead and import one of those HTC one X in black. it is really a bad looking phone it looks cheap. nothing about it makes say og hot dam look at that. the i777 looks way better.
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I really dont know who would buy that phone. Samsung really screwed it up. visual wise. the back looks like a cheap phone. it is round. i was really expecting something else from samsung. i had money saved for it. but im gonna take it to HTC instead and import one of those HTC one X in black. it is really a bad looking phone it looks cheap. nothing about it makes say og hot dam look at that. the i777 looks way better.
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Agreed. As with every other Galaxy S line version, I expect the American version (and different carrier designs as well) to look differently. In my opinion, AT&T has always had the more aesthetically pleasing of each iteration (Captivate and our device, in comparison with the Fascinate, etc.). I'm not sure this is salvageable though lol.
In regards to the HTC One X, I guess you don't want the AT&T version?
I am hoping At&t just might release 2 again as with the Skyrocket and OG but thats looking grim. Depending on how much the At&t costs vs. the International, I might just sell the OG S2 and just import, but the S4 chip does seem fast and I am in an area of LTE.
^^^^^^ exactly
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I like the new s3. Its candy. Og Hspa + quad exynos. Not getting it tho just got my s2 last November so it would be dumb to replace this great phone so soon . Bring on the Note plus next year!
Now Im really glad I bought the OneX.
Lets hope they make the S IV better.
Now, for my thoughts on the SIII... The only thing that got my attention was that half of the announcement was all software related tweaks and improvements. But its still TouchWiz. They made TW hook into the phone deeper than ever and its ugly. I feel they relied more on software and less on hardware.
Samsung should have taken a page from HTC's playbook and scaled back (like HTC did with Sense4) instead of driving the roots of TW even further into the core. Just look how ugly the messaging app is or how laggy and ugly the photo album was when doing burst shot. If they are going to integrate TW into everything, at least make it aesthetically pleasing to the eye.
If they sell an Exynos based version in the US subsidized then I will buy it. I don't live in an LTE area and I get solid 4-11MB/s with my SGS2 which is more than sufficient for my needs. I download AOKP and CM9 directly to my phone and it only takes a couple mins and that is the only time my data speeds are taxed even a little. The need some people have for 20+ MB/s connections seems crazy to me I don't get it. I would MUCH rather have the faster CPU. If there is no US Exynos version of the SGS3 I will probably just wait until 2013 to upgrade.
SGS3 > One X.
One X deal killer: non removable 1800mAH battery and 12GB user accessible built-in storage with no microsd expansion slot.
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SGS3 > One X.
One X deal killer: non removable 1800mAH battery and 12GB user accessible built-in storage with no microsd expansion slot.
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I'll stick to my i777 until my contract is up, then I'll get a SGSIV , which will be better :thumbup:
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I'll stick to my i777 until my contract is up, then I'll get a SGSIV , which will be better :thumbup:
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My thinking exactly
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I'm just gonna buy an iPhone. ROFL.
Nawww just jokin.
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Just saw the One X has a locked boot loader also per ATT. Now that sucks. Hopefully someone cracks it.
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I am very picky about how my phones look. the S3 was on buy list no matter (i was expecting Samsung to come up with a better design than the crap they released), now way in hell i am going to spend on that phone. I hate oval looking phones. HTC One X is oval, but it way better looking than the S3 i got to give it to HTC on this one.
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I am very picky about how my phones look. the S3 was on buy list no matter (i was expecting Samsung to come up with a better design than the crap they released), now way in hell i am going to spend on that phone. I hate oval looking phones. HTC One X is oval, but it way better looking than the S3 i got to give it to HTC on this one.
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I love my new OneX
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You know maybe I'm just a fanboy but I'm sick and tired of people calling the phone ugly, like how many black square slabs do you have to see before you've had enough? I for one am for the new look, I like the ergonomic nature look of it. Sure it didn't blow me away but it's growing on me with every picture and video I see. Oh and for people complaining about TW I really think Samsung focused on the right area for the phone, it's software rather than it's hardware. I mean let's be serious a dual-core S4 would be enough computing power for any smartphone, couple that with LTE and I for one do not care if I get the Quadcore Exynos or the S4. Sure I'd rather have the Exynos Quad and coming from an at&t SGSII I know the power of the Exynos, but I think it's time companies focus on making the phones run better with more features than just beefing up the specs.
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You know maybe I'm just a fanboy but I'm sick and tired of people calling the phone ugly...
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+ 1.
The phone looks fine to me. I would have stuck with an iPhone if I wanted form over function.
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You know maybe I'm just a fanboy but I'm sick and tired of people calling the phone ugly, like how many black square slabs do you have to see before you've had enough? I for one am for the new look, I like the ergonomic nature look of it. Sure it didn't blow me away but it's growing on me with every picture and video I see. Oh and for people complaining about TW I really think Samsung focused on the right area for the phone, it's software rather than it's hardware. I mean let's be serious a dual-core S4 would be enough computing power for any smartphone, couple that with LTE and I for one do not care if I get the Quadcore Exynos or the S4. Sure I'd rather have the Exynos Quad and coming from an at&t SGSII I know the power of the Exynos, but I think it's time companies focus on making the phones run better with more features than just beefing up the specs.
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+another 1. The only reasons I'm not going to get this phone is #1, I don't have an upgrade and I can wait until S4 when that upgrade comes around, and #2, the phone is too big for me. My S2 is already pushing the size limit for me, I love the large HD screen but the fact that the whole phone is bigger than my current one means it's too big for my pocket and my personal taste. I was pretty happy with everything else they included hardware-wise, and very pleasantly surprised by all the new software features, especially because I happen to be a fan of stock TW.
Ehhhhh..... I am the biggest Samsung fanboy ever..... This phone is pretty ugly.... The screen looks alright, the back looks more generic than the Vibrant.... Overall it's ugly compared to the OneX. Average user won't tell but the display in the OneX is nicer than the pentile crap....
Clear cut instances of a company on top has nothing to prove.... Therefore puts out whatever it wants and we accept it as the best. On the other hand a company that was once great fell real hard and now strives to redeem itself.... and did it well. Kudos to HTC.... Samsung will win next time.
killing is my business, And business is good.
despite many folks being down on the specs of the phone (really did you think a 4.0 inch screen device would have hd resolution? ) i still like it a lot
just trying to gauge how many plan to pick it up, so i can get some idea about the potential size (i know it wont be big) of the root community
money is tight on (as my wife calls it) "luxury" purchases...and i have to buy a new computer soon too as mine is fried...so want to know if its worth using what donations i do have to get (or at least cover some of the cost) it or not
anyone?
verizon tells me i'm eligible for an early upgrade and i'm going to hold onto my org dinc until i see the price drop on the 4g lte, as i'm sure they'll try to butt**** you with price.
this is the only phone i'm considering because i've held a gnex and razr, to efing big for my taste and i don't want to fell like i'm carrying a brick around in my pocket.
and the removable battery and expandable memory are a big plus too.
4G arrives here this summer, along with my last "new every two year" upgrade option. I have enjoyed My Incredible and will take a hard look at it's big brother.
I am not excited. This phone misses big time. The original droid incredible was the king of the Hill when it came out, but this budget phone is a joke to the line. Underpowered CPU without the image sensor chip and the lack of HD display combined with HTC's heavy insistence that this phone is not from the One line makes me sorely disappointed.
I wish everyone who buy this phone the best, but I will be holding on to my original incredible until Verizon actually gets a One series phone.
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I'm in. I've tried the rezound and the nexus. Didn't like either one of them for different reasons. I kept wanting to come back to my Inc 2. I look at it this way. Its like my Inc 2 but with 4g and some other nice upgrades. I personally don't need the fastest, biggest, highest Res, etc. Functionally and battery life are my most important things. But to each there own...
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Droid Fighter
I'm looking real close at this phone. I really like Sense and the size is right for carrying around at work. I'll wait until I can actually have one in my hands before I pull the trigger though.
I'll be getting this phone. Droid-life reports that it'll be priced at 149$, which sounds like a likely price for it. I'm hoping it get's decent developer support.
I want it now
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Yup, pretty much...
Maybe i'll hold off and dev for this phone. We will see.
I'll try to pick one up if I get the chance. S4 chip, LTE, resolution bump all make for a nice upgrade over my Incredible 2
This will be my next phone. Loved the Inc2, it was my favorite phone of all time, but I can't do without 4G. Tried going back to the Inc2 for a week, but I've become accustomed to the LTE speeds here in Vegas, and so I switched back to my Rezound. I think that 4" is the sweet spot for screen size, and don't see the need for a HD screen at that size. 1.2ghz S4 should be plenty fast, and great on battery life. Camera doesn't matter to me, I haven't been let down by my Rezound when I need to snap something quickly. If the battery life is anything like what the AT&T OneX is showing with it's S4/LTE combo, I'm all in. I'll be buying it off-contract.
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I'll try to pick one up if I get the chance. S4 chip, LTE, resolution bump all make for a nice upgrade over my Incredible 2
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if you get it, im in for sure!
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if you get it, im in for sure!
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I am seriously considering this phone. I was going to wait and see which devs were going to pick it up. If you two are getting one, then I am definately getting one.
My only worry is that the phone is not a world phone. I travel outside of the US frequently and the INC 2 has been wonderful. But, I have been renting the MiFi devices from xComGlobal for international travel recently, so the world phone capabilities are not as important.
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I am seriously considering this phone. I was going to wait and see which devs were going to pick it up. If you two are getting one, then I am definately getting one.
My only worry is that the phone is not a world phone. I travel outside of the US frequently and the INC 2 has been wonderful. But, I have been renting the MiFi devices from xComGlobal for international travel recently, so the world phone capabilities are not as important.
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yeah, i dont know about the world phone stuff...i know the rezound has been gotten to work on gsm networks (lte is gsm based afaik) as have some moto phones...but its not as simple as just changing modes (pretty involved i think)
This phone might be my only option on Verizon in the near future. I for one, do not like the ridiculously large screens. 4 inches is great, larger...not so much. The trend right now seems to be 4.5' or more. No matter how thin that is, it's still too big.
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I have been eligible for upgrade since February and will most likely pick this up as soon as it's available.
I'll e getting this sometime in July when my contract is up.
I get a laugh every time I hear/read people saying this phone is a failure, its a beast of a phone.
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Maybe i'll hold off and dev for this phone. We will see.
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I'm still on the original Incredible, after owning it since launch day over two years ago I'm looking for something to upgrade too. Galaxy Nexus is huge, the Rezound has an S3 with Sense 3.6, and I want something with ICS out the door. And the S4 is looking really great for power and battery efficiency. I love the size of my Inc, and this looks perfect. If you dev for this phone, I will definitely be getting this, as a user of your work on the Incredible. Warm TwoPointTwo was an amazing rom back in the day.
In short, I just want a 2012 HTC phone. With 2012 specs, not last years models that are 6 months old by now.
They told the carriers to f*ck off..
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/04/...rier-launch-att-verizon-sprint-t-mobile-uscc/
Or so it appears. They're launching the same phone on all networks, US and globally, with the only variation being radios and RAM. This might actually mean timely updates, no bloatware, etc.
My god. I'm a bit stunned. I was pretty sure I was going to get a GS3, but this might make it a done deal.
Knowing Verizon though, they'll find a way to mess it up. Fingers crossed they don't..
Edit: Well, the hardware looks to be the same-- http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/06/03/exclusive-photos-this-is-the-verizon-samsung-galaxy-s-iii/
Well LTE doesn't work with quad cores so it will have to have a different processor.
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Well LTE doesn't work with quad cores so it will have to have a different processor.
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Sure, but that's pretty obvious.
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They told the carriers to f*ck off..
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/04/...rier-launch-att-verizon-sprint-t-mobile-uscc/
Or so it appears. They're launching the same phone on all networks, US and globally, with the only variation being radios and RAM. This might actually mean timely updates, no bloatware, etc.
My god. I'm a bit stunned. I was pretty sure I was going to get a GS3, but this might make it a done deal.
Knowing Verizon though, they'll find a way to mess it up. Fingers crossed they don't..
Edit: Well, the hardware looks to be the same-- http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/06/03/exclusive-photos-this-is-the-verizon-samsung-galaxy-s-iii/
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2GB instead of 1GB of RAM. Another surprise.
I'm really disappointed in the GSIII in general. I had high hopes but it's nothing revolutionary. More like GSII.5
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I'm really disappointed in the GSIII in general. I had high hopes but it's nothing revolutionary. More like GSII.5
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It'd be the GSII.V if you put it that way
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It'd be the GSII.V if you put it that way
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Oh my gosh
Its not like it really has to be, though. Its basically a GS2S, if you'll pardon my language. Its better in every way, but not revolutionary.
Probably sent from my mini bath on my GS42
This phone is gonna smash sales records for Android.
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This phone is gonna smash sales records for Android.
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The Galaxy S series aka iPhone clone trololol. Should see all the people QQing about no quadcore . Not really impressed with the S3 to be honest. Most apps barely utilize 2 cores as is, there's not much UI difference between 1core and 2 cores. I've tested this out by forcing a core offline and dropping my speed down to 600mhz on my Nexus. Just as smooth with both cores forced online @ 1.2. It's a shame they're using the same screen on the Nexus for the S3. Gonna have a lot of people crying about pentile and vertical banding and image retention/amoled fatigue. Plus if there are going to be 5 different Nexus devices by 5 different manufacturers.. There goes the Nexus name . @ OP Verizon will **** it up. You can count on it.
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@ OP Verizon will **** it up. You can count on it.
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Anybody remember the gimped Verizon Touch Pro? >.<
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The Galaxy S series aka iPhone clone trololol. Should see all the people QQing about no quadcore . Not really impressed with the S3 to be honest. Most apps barely utilize 2 cores as is, there's not much UI difference between 1core and 2 cores. I've tested this out by forcing a core offline and dropping my speed down to 600mhz on my Nexus. Just as smooth with both cores forced online @ 1.2. It's a shame they're using the same screen on the Nexus for the S3. Gonna have a lot of people crying about pentile and vertical banding and image retention/amoled fatigue. Plus if there are going to be 5 different Nexus devices by 5 different manufacturers.. There goes the Nexus name . @ OP Verizon will **** it up. You can count on it.
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Pretty sure its a different screen. Still super amoled but with the subpixel layout altered to help with those problems.
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Pretty sure its a different screen. Still super amoled but with the subpixel layout altered to help with those problems.
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No it's the same screen. Super Amoled HD not +. It uses the same RGBG subpixel layout. Albeit the smaller gaps it's pretty much the same tech. http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2012/05/11/galaxy-s3-screen-disappointment-samsung-explains-decision/
Why is it so ugly?
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They told the carriers to f*ck off..
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/04/...rier-launch-att-verizon-sprint-t-mobile-uscc/
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Of course HTC will never be able to have the kind of clout Samsung does since there's people like you who buy into the Apple-level marketing craze. The less support the smaller manufacturers get the more you'll see Apple and Samsung resemble att and verizon.
Also, I really don't think even samsung by themselves can get past verizon the way apple does when a phone by both google and samsung can't even do that. The official update for the gnex was held up for FIVE MONTHS. If you're basing your purchase off of that then I bid you the best of luck.
Anyways, I own phones from all the manufacturers, and I don't want only two phone titans fighting it out. We already see the results of having essentially only 2 carriers and it ain't pretty. If the GS3 comes out b4 the shared data things goes into effect I'll probably buy the GS3, sell it, and save the money to see what else is in the pipeline.
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They told the carriers to f*ck off..
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/04/...rier-launch-att-verizon-sprint-t-mobile-uscc/
Knowing Verizon though, they'll find a way to mess it up. Fingers crossed they don't..
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Of course, they wont mess it up. They will just pass on it like they did with the GSII.
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Of course HTC will never be able to have the kind of clout Samsung does since there's people like you who buy into the Apple-level marketing craze. The less support the smaller manufacturers get the more you'll see Apple and Samsung resemble att and verizon.
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Yes, you caught me. Because the Rezound isn't my 4th HTC phone or anything.
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Of course, they wont mess it up. They will just pass on it like they did with the GSII.
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Pre-orders start on Wednesday.
http://www.androidcentral.com/verizon-galaxy-s-iii-preorders-start-june-6
Sour Grapes
I know this is an HTC phone owner's forum, but I think we have to give Samsung some props for being able to tell Verizon to **** off, either take the phone as we've designed it or don't take it and having Verizon cave, Verizon always controls the smartphones it releases with an iron fist and almost never releases phones with the same specs and layout as the other carriers.
The fact that they could do this, is a big win for any smartphone manufacturer, I'm sure a lot of us wish we had a HTC One X option, instead of them releasing the lame 4G incredible, I'm disappointed by the screen technology in the S3 but otherwise I think it looks like a great phone, it could be my next one, waiting to see what else is released before the end of the year.
As far as updates are concerned, sure Verizon will slow them down partly because their Verizon and partly because having a CDMA phone naturally slows down the process, Sprint's updates are slowed down for the same reason (maybe not to the degree of Verizon) and AT&T even though it's GSM and should be able to release updates quickly once available is just as slow as Verizon, I'm still waiting on an update for my S2 despite the fact that it's almost identical to the international version and I've been running a stable rom based on the international version for 3 months.
T-mobile is probably the best, the simple fact is that as long as carrier's control our phone updates, the updates will be slowed down by our carrier's, Verizon isn't special in that respect.
Also their's the manufacturer, everyone screams about the galaxy nexus update slowdowns on Verizon, which I'm sure are verizon's fault to some degree, but I also guarantee that google prioritizes the GSM version, because they don't need to get anyone's approval and then starts working on the verizon update, Sprint's ICS update for the nexus s was slow as well.
But I think the fact that all 4 major carrier's will have essentially the same phone will put some degree of pressure on Verizon to work to get the updates completed, and any pressure on Verizon to release updates is a good thing.
In my mind any Android manufacturer that pushes back against the carrier is a good thing for Android, HTC may not be able to do this at this moment, but if Samsung can do it and HTC keeps releasing phones that are worthy competitors to samsung phones like the One X, you may see HTC or other Android manufacturers successfully pushing back against the carrier's.
Did you guys see the drop test? I ain't getting near that phone.
http://shop.verizonwireless.com/?id=galaxys3
Love my Rezound but am offically retiring it when this comes out. Fingers crossed for decent radios. Lol
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I know there are probably a lot of these threads all ready l, but this is this is a tough decision for me. I've had a hard time finding a comparison of the two devices that goes beyond the gimmicky Samsung features and the screen. My decision really has come down to a few things.
1) Development. Reading around here it seems cyanogen himself has bought this phone and will be working on it. I have a history of Samsung phones and development has always been very active on them. It's too early for me to guess which will have more ROM availability and system stability . which brings me to the next point.
2) The battery. I always am running some flavor of AOSP and love AOKP, but in all my phones I have had system freezes that require me to pull the battery to get out of it. Not to mention misclicks into download mode which required a battery pull to get out of it. Does the One have a way to force the phone to shut off in the event of a total freeze?
3) The screen. Everyone seems to be raving over the super amoled vs superlcd. The annoying terms don't tell me anything and never have I complained about the color detail of the screen. What I care about is if the screen can get dark enough so I can use it in a dark room without blinding myself and in sunlight and see the screen.
4) the SD card I will adjust to. Its 32 GB and I've never needed more than that anyway. I'd complain about this if it were only 16GB.
Besides that I've read enough to know both are awesome phones but its a tough decision.
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I faced this decision today at Costco. Wait for the 4 or get the one. Low and behold I walked out of Costco with the one in hand for 185 on a upgrade. I've had every Samsung s1 s2 skyro s3 even had the infuse. Time for a change I think. So far so good
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hampsterblade said:
I know there are probably a lot of these threads all ready l, but this is this is a tough decision for me. I've had a hard time finding a comparison of the two devices that goes beyond the gimmicky Samsung features and the screen. My decision really has come down to a few things.
1) Development. Reading around here it seems cyanogen himself has bought this phone and will be working on it. I have a history of Samsung phones and development has always been very active on them. It's too early for me to guess which will have more ROM availability and system stability . which brings me to the next point.
2) The battery. I always am running some flavor of AOSP and love AOKP, but in all my phones I have had system freezes that require me to pull the battery to get out of it. Not to mention misclicks into download mode which required a battery pull to get out of it. Does the One have a way to force the phone to shut off in the event of a total freeze?
3) The screen. Everyone seems to be raving over the super amoled vs superlcd. The annoying terms don't tell me anything and never have I complained about the color detail of the screen. What I care about is if the screen can get dark enough so I can use it in a dark room without blinding myself and in sunlight and see the screen.
4) the SD card I will adjust to. Its 32 GB and I've never needed more than that anyway. I'd complain about this if it were only 16GB.
Besides that I've read enough to know both are awesome phones but its a tough decision.
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1. I'd say development is fair game for both phones. The One looks like it's going to receive quite a bit of support, while the S4 looks like it's going to sell well no matter what due to Samsung's marketing. I'd say that both phones are going to receive quite a bit of development. I'd say it's only a matter of whether you prefer Sense or TouchWiz, in case you need the option of using a stock-based rom every now and then.
2. The battery in the S4 is supposedly just slightly better, according to some reviews I've read. The One battery is not removable, but you can force a "battery pull"-like action with the phone by holding down volume up, volume down, and power at the same time for several seconds. It worked for me when I tried to use Aroma installer and it froze.
3. I'm not really sure what to tell you on this. I'd say it's a matter of preference. On one hand, the One's screen does look better, but on the other hand, it's definitely a bright screen. Not to mention if you wanted to use a smart cover-like accessory, only the S4 would work with that given the super amoled technology.
4. If you're a real junkie, the S4 probably has you covered with expandable storage. But if 32 is really enough, you can go for either phone, really. AT&T also offers the 64GB flavor in case you want to never worry about your storage.
Hope this helped.
I would take the HTC One over the S4 just cuz the premium design seems more durable and nicer looking. Plus most of the S4 apps seem a bit gimmicky to me while the HTC One seems to have less of that, though the new Sense system is still bloatware.I would root the device and go AOSP anyways.
What did it for me was the screen. The HTC One's screen out shines the S4 all the way. But every user is different you might prefer a removable battery. The simple fact that the HTC One from AT&T is the same as the international opens a wide source of ROMs and will attract more developers. Also the fact that it would appear they are not locking the bootloader. As of now they just confirmed that the S4 is locked and it took them over a month to unlock the bootloader on the S3.
I think from a development stand point the HTC One is a great addition. Something to keep in mind, you said you like the pure android feel (AOKP, AOSP, CM10.1). In the past those roms could not use the image chip in the HTC One X, there may be a chance if you get this phone and run it on AOKP you will only have a 4 MP shooter, which may be a deal breaker for you. Or they may unlock the full power of that camera and it be even better.
Both are great phones and will make you happy
htc One is Great SuperPhone
htc One is My Next Phone 100%
Thank you for all your answers. Definitely reinforces that both phones are great. I think I'll give it a few weeks so I can see how far development has come along then.
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hampsterblade said:
Thank you for all your answers. Definitely reinforces that both phones are great. I think I'll give it a few weeks so I can see how far development has come along then.
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Keep in mind, not only does Cyanogen himself have an HTC One, but so do a couple of other major CM devs from other phones - h8rift from the One XL (who did amazing things), and sk8erwitskil from the LG Optimus G.
Hell, there's already an early alpha for CM10.1:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2248116
Development is going to be awesome for the One. I'm sure it'll be great for the S4 too, of course, but I wouldn't worry about the One.
My view of the phones is basiclly the phone is just a shell, we decide what roms to put on it. 2gb of rams on both same with a quad core processor. Those where the driving forces behind me choosing, I wanted a solid build quality that wasn't plastic. CM10.1 is coming to both
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Keep in mind, not only does Cyanogen himself have an HTC One, but so do a couple of other major CM devs from other phones - h8rift from the One XL (who did amazing things), and sk8erwitskil from the LG Optimus G.
Hell, there's already an early alpha for CM10.1:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2248116
Development is going to be awesome for the One. I'm sure it'll be great for the S4 too, of course, but I wouldn't worry about the One.
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Also designgears and graffixnyc have the One. Maybe not CM devs, but great devs. Sk8erwitskil did great things with the recovery for the sgs2 skyrocket.
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I'm so torn. The screen for the S4 looks so much bigger and nicer but the locked bootloader and bloat on it sucks.
hampsterblade said:
I know there are probably a lot of these threads all ready l, but this is this is a tough decision for me. I've had a hard time finding a comparison of the two devices that goes beyond the gimmicky Samsung features and the screen. My decision really has come down to a few things.
1) Development. Reading around here it seems cyanogen himself has bought this phone and will be working on it. I have a history of Samsung phones and development has always been very active on them. It's too early for me to guess which will have more ROM availability and system stability . which brings me to the next point.
2) The battery. I always am running some flavor of AOSP and love AOKP, but in all my phones I have had system freezes that require me to pull the battery to get out of it. Not to mention misclicks into download mode which required a battery pull to get out of it. Does the One have a way to force the phone to shut off in the event of a total freeze?
3) The screen. Everyone seems to be raving over the super amoled vs superlcd. The annoying terms don't tell me anything and never have I complained about the color detail of the screen. What I care about is if the screen can get dark enough so I can use it in a dark room without blinding myself and in sunlight and see the screen.
4) the SD card I will adjust to. Its 32 GB and I've never needed more than that anyway. I'd complain about this if it were only 16GB.
Besides that I've read enough to know both are awesome phones but its a tough decision.
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Decision ain't tough simply because you can't go wrong picking either of them
I currently have the One but it will be going back on Saturday to be exchanged for the S4. Although I like the aluminum feel and overall design of the phone some minor issues are making me jump ship... The phone gets somewhat hot after playing games like Nova 3 and modern combat 4 for a few minutes, battery life is just so so, and my phone has a small gap on the top between corner and power button (nothing huge but enough to bother me).
I like the microSD card slot (I have a new SD card it will be a waste not to use it) and on the s4 and although it's make of plastic and not aluminum like the One once they both are in a case I will forget about that issue.
It's definitely a tough decision and I hope I don't regret it later, but I also know that if I don't trade this phone in within the first 14 days I will always wondered if i missed out by not going for the s4. Anyways my thoughts
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soritong said:
I'm so torn. The screen for the S4 looks so much bigger and nicer but the locked bootloader and bloat on it sucks.
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Personally, the screen is only a part of the equation, the one is a much better looking device with superior build quality. My wife has a g3, and honestly the build quality isn't comparable.Both will be in the same ballpark performance wise, and the s4 has removable battery and as card support,I have the 64gb version, I'm not worried about storage, I do have doubts about plastic phones, and the appearance of the galaxy series of phones don't appeal to me
I love htc's build and its speakers, but unfortunately it wasn't for me. i am returning my htc one for s4, because my phone heats up a lot and my it doesn't connect to my car via usb or the aux cable(nexus 4, iphone and xperia z work fine with it).
The three dot menu is driving me madddddddddd
eav1026 said:
I currently have the One but it will be going back on Saturday to be exchanged for the S4. Although I like the aluminum feel and overall design of the phone some minor issues are making me jump ship... The phone gets somewhat hot after playing games like Nova 3 and modern combat 4 for a few minutes, battery life is just so so, and my phone has a small gap on the top between corner and power button (nothing huge but enough to bother me).
I like the microSD card slot (I have a new SD card it will be a waste not to use it) and on the s4 and although it's make of plastic and not aluminum like the One once they both are in a case I will forget about that issue.
It's definitely a tough decision and I hope I don't regret it later, but I also know that if I don't trade this phone in within the first 14 days I will always wondered if i missed out by not going for the s4. Anyways my thoughts
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Unfortunately, you're going to regret it and will most likely be back before you know it.
Bigjim1488 said:
The three dot menu is driving me madddddddddd
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Horrible solution to w problem of htcs creation.
No one mentions the vibration on phones. Htc uses a pretty nasty vibrator motor
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To all who are complaining about heat..
You do realize the heat is generated mainly from the processor and that the S4 has the exact same one right?
The S4 will have the same amount of heat..
soritong said:
I'm so torn. The screen for the S4 looks so much bigger and nicer but the locked bootloader and bloat on it sucks.
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The screen does not look bigger to me and in reality it's only .3" bigger.. It don't think the S4 screen looks nicer. It's cartoon'ish and standard Samsung over saturation..
For those of you who are thinking about going S4... check out this thread and remember, locked bootloader!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2249581
Got the G2 on launch day from a Verizon store here in town. Phone is great, no doubt about that. What worries me is that this appears to be a hero phone without much demand. HTC has done a great job of marketing the One, and everyone knows Moto. The G2 on display at the Verizon store is jammed between an iPhone and an older model Samsung something-or-other with no signage other than a huge "Samsung Galaxy" poster on the wall behind it.
If I keep this, it will be the third device in a row that I've bought as a "flagship" which wound up getting the cold shoulder in many ways.
First I had the HTC Incredible, probably the most popular of the bunch. While it did have ROM development, it was quickly forgotten when the HTC EVO came out seemingly a week later. Accessories were few and far between.
Second was the Galaxy Nexus, heralded as a "Google experience" device on Verizon. After endless launch delays, it came out and was quickly forgotten by Verizon and Google both. Accessories were few and far between.
Now I have the LG G2, a great device with awesome specs! I actually don't mind the Verizon/LG "skin" on this so much. But again, Verizon had to **** it up with changing the buttons and making the thing thicker. Accessories will be practically nil for this device other than the three cases from Verizon at launch. There will be countless Chinese imports that will claim to fit but will not, because the back-alley factories making this crap don't give a damn about doing anything per spec. Just make it look vaguely correct and slap a knock off hello-kitty design on the back and call 'er done! "Your Happy Plastic Partner" indeed!
I am also afraid that development will completely stall on this device because everyone will head to the Nexus 5...
Sigh... I should just go trade for an HTC One, I think... I don't know. I am torn.
The moto x isn't selling well (att rep who owns a moto x said he hasn't been able sell a single one) HTC marketing well, are you kidding? They are losing money head over heels even with the one. They only thing with LG is, they have a very small market share they are not Apple or Samsung.
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This forum seems pretty active. I think anyone who develops knows about the phone. Give it some time. Rome wasn't built in a day.
Darkestred said:
This forum seems pretty active. I think anyone who develops knows about the phone. Give it some time. Rome wasn't built in a day.
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Yep. Welcome to new xda forum syndrome. This is what a new device forum looks like the first week ?
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DeaconBoogie said:
Got the G2 on launch day from a Verizon store here in town. Phone is great, no doubt about that. What worries me is that this appears to be a hero phone without much demand. HTC has done a great job of marketing the One, and everyone knows Moto. The G2 on display at the Verizon store is jammed between an iPhone and an older model Samsung something-or-other with no signage other than a huge "Samsung Galaxy" poster on the wall behind it.
If I keep this, it will be the third device in a row that I've bought as a "flagship" which wound up getting the cold shoulder in many ways.
First I had the HTC Incredible, probably the most popular of the bunch. While it did have ROM development, it was quickly forgotten when the HTC EVO came out seemingly a week later. Accessories were few and far between.
Second was the Galaxy Nexus, heralded as a "Google experience" device on Verizon. After endless launch delays, it came out and was quickly forgotten by Verizon and Google both. Accessories were few and far between.
Now I have the LG G2, a great device with awesome specs! I actually don't mind the Verizon/LG "skin" on this so much. But again, Verizon had to **** it up with changing the buttons and making the thing thicker. Accessories will be practically nil for this device other than the three cases from Verizon at launch. There will be countless Chinese imports that will claim to fit but will not, because the back-alley factories making this crap don't give a damn about doing anything per spec. Just make it look vaguely correct and slap a knock off hello-kitty design on the back and call 'er done! "Your Happy Plastic Partner" indeed!
I am also afraid that development will completely stall on this device because everyone will head to the Nexus 5...
Sigh... I should just go trade for an HTC One, I think... I don't know. I am torn.
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If you're worried about development checck the lg optimus g's thread its still going today http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2339403
That link is for p.a.
razball said:
If you're worried about development checck the lg optimus g's thread its still going today h://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2339403
That link is for p.a.
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I feel the op pain I had the G pro witch I felt was the most underrated phone ever and coming from the note 2 it was way better than the note2 and the G pro was DOA LG has zero marketing as well as a very bad reputation of leaving customers out to dry as far as updates. LG makes bad ass phones no doubt but needs a lot of work in marketing and support
DaT Franchise said:
I feel the op pain I had the G pro witch I felt was the most underrated phone ever and coming from the note 2 it was way better than the note2 and the G pro was DOA LG has zero marketing as well as a very bad reputation of leaving customers out to dry as far as updates. LG makes bad ass phones no doubt but needs a lot of work in marketing and support
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True. That's the literal only thing that worries me... updates. Moto x I'm sure will beat g2 to updates (the other phone I have) but that's the only plus for the phone other than size.
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robstunner said:
True. That's the literal only thing that worries me... updates. Moto x I'm sure will beat g2 to updates (the other phone I have) but that's the only plus for the phone other than size.
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I'll never own another moto, there like Apple always one or two years behind in hardware, I mean really 720p??!!! Duel core??
DaT Franchise said:
I'll never own another moto, there like Apple always one or two years behind in hardware, I mean really 720p??!!! Duel core??
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Specs or no specs, anyone I know that has or has tried a MotoX loved it. I think whats killing them is the $199 for a 16GB non-expandable phone, sitting right next to a 32GB Galaxy S4 and HTC One for 149, the LG G2 for 199, etc.
And their goal with that phone WASNT balls to the wall specs....it was supposed to reliable and economical (but again the high price question still applies)
I have used the moto x and can tell you the 720 display and processor really are fine. The software enhancements kick total ass. That being said this phone Absolutely destroys it on every front. I absolutely hate amoled. Way too dim.
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chrisexv6 said:
Specs or no specs, anyone I know that has or has tried a MotoX loved it. I think whats killing them is the $199 for a 16GB non-expandable phone, sitting right next to a 32GB Galaxy S4 and HTC One for 149, the LG G2 for 199, etc.
And their goal with that phone WASNT balls to the wall specs....it was supposed to reliable and economical (but again the high price question still applies)
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I agree with u on price, but every moto sense the OG X has been one step behind with there flagship phones
chrisexv6 said:
Specs or no specs, anyone I know that has or has tried a MotoX loved it. I think whats killing them is the $199 for a 16GB non-expandable phone, sitting right next to a 32GB Galaxy S4 and HTC One for 149, the LG G2 for 199, etc.
And their goal with that phone WASNT balls to the wall specs....it was supposed to reliable and economical (but again the high price question still applies)
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This. Everything is fine with the moto x, and I'd still be using it if the battery was decent but lately I've been getting idle drain that I can't figure out. As for amoled, it's great indoors, terrible outside. If LG steps their game up with update frequency I have no problem keeping this phone for a long time. Same goes for the moto x if I was somehow getting the 5+ hours of screen on time per day some people are reporting. Oh, and one grip with lg. Why is there not an option to make the buttons on the bottom like aosp to have the recent apps button and not just the menu...
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If the LG G2 dont get rom support and community love i'll be surprised. I say this because its a flagship device from LG and available on all 4 major carriers; just like the htc one, galaxy phones & moto x. We just need a unlocked bootloader.
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If the LG G2 dont get rom support and community love i'll be surprised. I say this because its a flagship device from LG and available on all 4 major carriers; just like the htc one, galaxy phones & moto x. We just need a unlocked bootloader.
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And the fact that they aren't as high profile as the other brands might mean it's easier to unlock
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krazie1 said:
If the LG G2 dont get rom support and community love i'll be surprised. I say this because its a flagship device from LG and available on all 4 major carriers; just like the htc one, galaxy phones & moto x. We just need a unlocked bootloader.
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I hope so, it was sad to see the G pro DOA. I'm still holding out to see what Scott does, I'm sure the FreeG guys will get the bootloader bypassed
DeaconBoogie said:
Sigh... I should just go trade for an HTC One, I think... I don't know. I am torn.
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No, you do NOT want an HTC One. I just sold my One for the G2...the G2 completely destroys the One in every way except for speakers and construction material, which are two minor things IMO since I prefer using headphones and the G2 feels solid/premium even though it's not metal. The One IS a great phone, but not as great as the G2. I really don't care if the G2 isn't bought in mass by the masses because I know I have a great phone and that's all that matters. I will be a little disappointed if there aren't many custom roms, but I'm OK with that because the stock rom is super smooth and customizable, plus I will be less tempted to constantly swap roms if there aren't many available
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. Oh, and one grip with lg. Why is there not an option to make the buttons on the bottom like aosp to have the recent apps button and not just the menu...
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Maybe it's just me, but I'm starting to like the menu button instead of the multi tasking one. I don't have to look around for that 3 dot menu button on the screen anymore.
chrisexv6 said:
And the fact that they aren't as high profile as the other brands might mean it's easier to unlock
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Wishful thinking, but if its true I'm an LG fan from now on. Maybe since they made and/or making the new nexus they are more lenient to unlocked bootloaders?
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Wishful thinking, but if its true I'm an LG fan from now on. Maybe since they made and/or making the new nexus they are more lenient to unlocked bootloaders?
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Actually I think the blame for locked bootloaders falls on the carriers, not the manufacturer. S4 is unlocked but not on VZW, etc.
LG will do whatever VZW tells them (or lets them). But VZW may not care if they really dont think this phone will sell well, or if they arent marketing it very much (which, as we can tell, they are NOT)
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Actually I think the blame for locked bootloaders falls on the carriers, not the manufacturer. S4 is unlocked but not on VZW, etc.
LG will do whatever VZW tells them (or lets them). But VZW may not care if they really dont think this phone will sell well, or if they arent marketing it very much (which, as we can tell, they are NOT)
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They aren't marketing it AT ALL. I've seen some Droid Maxx commercials though and an even recent Moto X commercial but zero for the LG G2.