Hey guys, I've been looking into getting either the G-tab 10.1 or 8.9 flashing the latest ICS roms. My question is, do you think I should wait until Samsung releases the ICS source code or go ahead and bite the bullet? I'm well aware that no rom is stable and each will have their bugs, but it seems you either get a decent experience where you have some problems or the rom just sucks. I have a touchpad and ICS it's great, not to many major issues. Has anyone got their G-tab running ICS with no major issues? Wifi working, no FC's, HD youtube, minimal screen flickering/rotation issues, etc... I know it's asking for alot, but i'm confused how my HP can work so well with android being ported over, and the G-tab experience be so crappy and it has android baked in.
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I just got my GT 7.0 Plus for Christmas and absolutely love it. I really like the compact 7" design and it will fit my needs perfectly. Now that my wife has played with it, she wants one too, but bigger. She is considering the 8.9" or 10". Since they are both the same price right now, she is leaning towards the 10".
What are the differences between the 3 tabs? From what I can tell the 10.1 and 8.9 are a little older and have Android 3.1 while my 7.0+ has 3.2. How much difference is there in the 2 OS versions?
I also see that my 7.0+ has the Samsung Exynos™ 2x1.2GHz processor. What is in the 8.9 and 10.1? Is it dual core?
Any other differences worth mentioning?
Keep in mind this is for my wife and she will not be rooting or modding it... She just needs something that is stable and just works.
I realise that this is a Gtab forum and I might possible get flamed for this, but here I go anyway
If your wife wants something that will be stable and will just work, without any tinkering or rooting or anything, and if she wants the tablet mostly for watching video, surfing the net, checking mail, playing some games etc. I'd recommend an iPad over the Gtab.
Why?
I'm absolutely in love with my Galaxy Tab, but I took the time to learn about it and tweak it. Hell, I scout these forums whenever I can to find some new tricks or tweaks. After it's tweaked, I'd never change it for an iPad, but if you're staying at stock, right now iPad is much smoother and overall a much better user experience - this may change in a few months when the official ICS comes out, but we can't be sure about that yet.
Why is she so averse against moding or rooting it? It's easy to learn and it can make the tab a whole different experience then remaining at official stock. Even if you don't want the "unstable" custom ROM (I'm writing in parenthesis since I haven't seen an unstable custom ROM here yet), you could go for a newer version of stock ROMs, or for CM9 when it comes out, those will most probably be as stable as the official stock, but still be faster/better then the one you get from Samsung if you wait for the official update.
There is practically no danger in rooting and moding your tablet, if you read the instructions and don't mess with stuff you don't understand, and there are many good guides around. And if you don't like it, you can still return everything back to the way it was through backups, no harm done.
As for the difference between devices, there are many reviews explaining just that around, google them
Heres one for technical specs, detailing differences between different tabs and galaxy note: http://socialcompare.com/en/comparison/samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-vs-8-9-vs-7-inch
[Edit] You can also move the list items around or add extra items to the comparison list in the link, if you want to compare your 8.9 to any other devices.
She is not averse to modding or rooting, but if it's not a stable release it causes more problems for me. She got her Infuse 4G right after it came out and I flashed a couple of not so stable roms and she hated them. It's fine now since the talented devs have released new stuff, but I have my own tablet and droid phone to keep running smooth, so I don't want to have to worry about hers too. As long as the stock rom will make her happy, I will leave it at that. But if there are roms that would make it better, she won't mind me modding it, so long as they are stable roms (which sounds like that won't be an issue).
One of the things she liked about mine was the screen shot button. I assume that's also there on the 8.9 and 10.1?
And the iPad is out. I absolutely hate Apple products (mostly due to iTunes) and will never own another one. We both had iPhones and neither one of us would ever go back. I have her trained to hate Apple as well.
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I have her trained to hate Apple as well.
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Haha, I have the feeling that we'd get along well
If the only problem keeping her from modding is stable releases, then there's no problem at all .
Yes, the screenshot button is part of HC's standard and every ROM I've seen till now has it (heard there is a way to disable it though, but I like it there ).
Are you thinking about the Wi-Fi only (7510) or about the 3G (7500) tablet? The 7500 is a bit more limited when it comes to different ROMs, as there are only 3 floating around right now, CM9 is currently being made for 7510 etc.
The 3G roms are Overcome, Ganbarou and BinDroid. I've tried BinDroid and Overcome (stayed on Overcome because the theme on BinDroid started to seem a bit too intrusive for my tasted after a few days) and they were both really stable. I don't think I've ever had any problems with any of them (I might have gotten a FC here and there, but nothing that I'd remember, nothing in the last week or so, and definitely nothing I couldn't have gotten on stock ROM).
For 7510, everyone recommends Task650's Galaxy Task, but I can't speak from personal experience as I need my tabs 3G connection. Some are saying that v8 is better then v9 or v10, but you should look in that thread or ask someone else to make sure.
As for the kernel, Pershoot's OC kernel is the undisputed champion - it allows you to OC, push extra modules (NTFS for instance) and stuff like that.
The Overcome experience also has a really nice guide to follow if you want to make sure you don't do something wrong (though it sounds like you know what you're doing), or if you want your wife to learn how to flash her tablet herself
I'll be getting the WiFi version only. She has an AT&T 4G phone and I have a Verizon 4GLTE phone and both have tethering enabled. So between the two of us, we almost always have a fast connection when away from WiFi. It sounds like either of the larger tablets would be a good fit for her. We might go to BB this evening so she can play with both before I order one.
The Task650 Rom looks pretty nice. Might have to flash that one for her to try.
Thanks for all the help guys!
10.1 and 8.9 are similar
Its just about the size
I have a 10.1 stock with ADWlauncher Ex and everything is smooth and stable.
A good point to consider would also be the available ROMs/tweaks/developers/accessories. I myself like the big screen, so I wouldn't go for the 8.9, even though that one is easier to handle with one hand only (you can actually hold it on one side, while I usually hold my tab in the middle with one hand, similar to how I would hold an open book).
Some places also offer testing devices, so maybe you could get one of those for a few days to see which one suits your needs better?
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10.1 and 8.9 are similar
Its just about the size
I have a 10.1 stock with ADWlauncher Ex and everything is smooth and stable.
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I think later on will be also with 7.7.. CMIIW..
I have the wifi tab, but after rooting and installing Task with the pershoot kernel, I also added the adhoc tethering hack and can now use my tab with my phone....
Best of both worlds without another data plan issue.
I went ahead and ordered the 10.1, should be here this week. And I have wifi tethering enabled on both of our phones, so the wifi version works just fine. Thanks for all the input!
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I went ahead and ordered the 10.1, should be here this week. And I have wifi tethering enabled on both of our phones, so the wifi version works just fine. Thanks for all the input!
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Awesome and a great choice. I've tried both In Paris V5 and GalaxyTask V10 on my GTab (2nd one mind you...sold my 1st one like an idiot and it was a 32 gig but now I'm back with a 16gig)
I've been looking for a good tab to get the gf around vday and I keep coming back to wanting to get her the Gtab.
Numerous stable roms, good support, lots of accessories, and ICS/CM9 right around the corner.
I think you and your wife will be very happy with it. Either of Galaxy/Phantom's ROMs are about as stable as you can get, just depends on if you want 3.1 or 3.2. With 3.2 Galaxytask you can flash b00sted's ICS theme, which is a very nice simplistic theme.
ETA: As for cases, I used the Gumdrop cases. Otterbox doesn't make any for the 10.1 and have no plans to, (which to me is stupid) but with that said, my Gumdrop cases have been on par or better than any Otterbox defender cases I have tried for other gadgets. Like the Defender cases, they do add a bit of size and weight but honestly I feel so much more confident in the robust nature of the tab with their cases on. Now if I could just find a car dock that would work with the case.
Hi all,
First of all, I'm amazed and gobsmacked at how much work all the devs put into their respective ROM's, it's amazing the effort and hard work ppl put in. Passion is alive and well on XDA
Now, to business. I have my Galaxy SII, a Galaxy S, and an Acer Iconia A500. I've flashed them all with their respective ICS. I would think (and hope) that probably out of all of them, the SII has the biggest dev base and most power. The ICS ROMs for the A500 and S are almost perfect. They run completely vanilla with no or almost no bloat, they look and behave the same (icons for network activity inside the bars for example, contacts app looks the same) and have had no hiccups whatsoever.
Come the SII, the only ROMs I've seen are cooked from Samsung sources with their phone and contacts apps, they crash and reboot and if it weren't that I have gone past the point of no return in regard to effort I'd have gone back to Gingerbread days ago.
Is anyone out there developing a completely vanilla "Google" rom that isn't themed to look like ICS, but actually uses the ICS apps etc. I can't understand how the Iconia and SI can have this while the SII seemingly doesn't.
Can anyone open my eyes on this? I'd love to get something as stable onto my SII as I have with my other devices, ICS is brilliant to use on them...and barely bearable on my beloved SII.
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Ummmm correct me if I am wrong but that's exactly what the CM team are trying yo to do....
And you can already download and install that, so long as you are happy with the bugs at present.
Unless you meant something else???
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You miss reading the cm9 thread. Check it out....its still alpha.
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I'm more curious about the fact I would have thought the SII having a bigger user and dev base...certainly more than the A500 I thought it would have the most stable and mature code base - yet it seems the opposite is true.
I've been running 4.0.3 on my SI for weeks now and its never bugged out. Installed the A500...and Oh wow its like a brand new tablet!! I wonder is it because of Exynos or some other reason we can't have the same stability and performance right now.
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Your ignorance and disrespect is pretty bad (even if you don't mean it). I think you should do some reading for a while and get yourself acquainted with what's involved.
I didn't ask this to be dissed by someone...I'm sure even you would agree the development cycle and challenges for all three devices would be similar given they all use different processors. So is it easier to compile for the A8 and Tegra than the A9?
I have been looking and downloading a number of ROMs...and if someone has created a ROM in a similar vein to Thor's on the A500 and Onecosmic's on the SI, well I'd be grateful for the heads up...in fact I'm just about to download and test the Pure ROM I just spied over in dev...so see how that goes. Still I'd be happy for someones *constructive* input.
Of course I'm claiming ignorance...if I knew I wouldn't ask...geez lol
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It's a wonder no one bothers doing a straight AOSP compile for any device, really. CyanogenMod comes the closest. There are a few people who played with doing a straight AOSP, but they base it off CM's work and strip out the extras.
When I wanted the AOSP experience with Gapps, I installed CM7 on my SGS and installed the stock Gingerbread launcher. It was the closest I got.
Trebuchet is basically the stock ICS launcher with features added, so it won't be so bad. You can also replace it with the stock launcher as well.
Try Airbus 360s ics rom that's aosp and is fantastic he should be releasing beta 2 tonight.
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haha I bet that confused ya
You're question is a bit noob so don't expect much answers.
Here is a short one to sum it for you:
AOSP - Pure android base without modification.
CM - almost pure with modifications.
STOCK - Hardware Manufacturer (eg. Samsung's) "official originated" release.
Stock - can have it all. CAUSE - Samsung has sources and support/docs for ALL hardware API of the device.
CM/STOCK - While there are some changes BOTH use the same origin.
To sum it, for proper functionality BOTH use SAME kernel/libs base.
So if some hardware functionality broken in one it'll be broken in other =
If CM9 haz no h/w decoding === APPLIES for AOSP.
Another thing to keep in mind, CM9 currently is in the process of adding CM features so current builds are very close to AOSP with functionality.
SUM IT UP:
if (CM9 != working) AOSP.isNotWorking()!
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if (CM9 != working) AOSP.isNotWorking()!
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That's a piece of horrible code, dude
Hey I need a little insight you those of you who have knowledge on the Galaxy tab 10.1 or 8.9 wifi or HP touchpad ICS ROM. I've been doing some reading and from the looks of it, it seems there are many more problems with the ICS ROM's for the Galaxy Tab than the HP touchpad. I have a touchpad w/ ICS and it's Awesome, no real issues other than the camera but that's minor.I wanna get the Galaxy Tab because it's different and I believe the hardware is better, but I'm a bit discouraged because all the issues I've read with the current ICS ROM's.
What do you guys think? Touchpad or Galaxy Tab 10.1 or 8.9?
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Hey I need a little insight you those of you who have knowledge on the Galaxy tab 10.1 or 8.9 wifi or HP touchpad ICS ROM. I've been doing some reading and from the looks of it, it seems there are many more problems with the ICS ROM's for the Galaxy Tab than the HP touchpad. I have a touchpad w/ ICS and it's Awesome, no real issues other than the camera but that's minor.I wanna get the Galaxy Tab because it's different and I believe the hardware is better, but I'm a bit discouraged because all the issues I've read with the current ICS ROM's.
What do you guys think? Touchpad or Galaxy Tab 10.1 or 8.9?
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What issues are you talking about? I've not got ICS on my Galaxy Tab but from what I've read there's only the camera not working, which seems to be a universal issue for knife-and-forked ROMs. I'm actually considering flashing it this afternoon, even though I'm VERY happy with it running the latest stock HC.
Galaxy Tab or HP TouchPad ICS
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What issues are you talking about? I've not got ICS on my Galaxy Tab but from what I've read there's only the camera not working, which seems to be a universal issue for knife-and-forked ROMs. I'm actually considering flashing it this afternoon, even though I'm VERY happy with it running the latest stock HC.
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I've read some people having wifi, rotation, and calendar syncing issues amongst other things with their G-Tab. Just search the Cyanogen 9 ICS thread and you'll see for yourself. To me it doesn't seem as polished as CM9 for the Touchpad. If you decide to give it a try let me know how it goes.
i thinks galaxy tab is a best choose!android more and good apps
First of all, let me apologize if this has been asked before. I did numerous searches but could not find any relevant information.
I'm currently on an Omega Jellybean Rom but I'm quite unsatisfied with the experience I'm getting from my phone. Samsung Dialer/Contacts and Messenger are slow to open and it doesnt really quite feel like a phone running Jellybean (yes ive tried alternative apps such as exdialer with the missed call patch).
I recall the JB experience i got from my galaxy i9003 (crappy asian galaxy S) which was a lot more enjoyable/smoother than what im getting now on the S3. Therefore the plan to switch to PA
Now the question is, aside from the issues mentioned on the PA thread (camera getting stuck when taking pics w/ front cam, no FM out, no TV out) are there any other issues or things that I'll be trading off by switching to PA?
Can I get a general consensus regarding PA vs sammy roms? Advantages/Disadvantages? Looking forward to your input
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First of all, let me apologize if this has been asked before. I did numerous searches but could not find any relevant information.
I'm currently on an Omega Jellybean Rom but I'm quite unsatisfied with the experience I'm getting from my phone. Samsung Dialer/Contacts and Messenger are slow to open and it doesnt really quite feel like a phone running Jellybean (yes ive tried alternative apps such as exdialer with the missed call patch).
I recall the JB experience i got from my galaxy i9003 (crappy asian galaxy S) which was a lot more enjoyable/smoother than what im getting now on the S3. Therefore the plan to switch to PA
Now the question is, aside from the issues mentioned on the PA thread (camera getting stuck when taking pics w/ front cam, no FM out, no TV out) are there any other issues or things that I'll be trading off by switching to PA?
Can I get a general consensus regarding PA vs sammy roms? Advantages/Disadvantages? Looking forward to your input
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I'd suggest you give Viking Rom a try, I'm a fan of trim Roms and Vikings weighs in a 425 meg, is super smooth and battery life is outstanding.
Viking is a JB rom. I have never experienced any of the issues you mention with the ROM.
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First of all, let me apologize if this has been asked before. I did numerous searches but could not find any relevant information.
I'm currently on an Omega Jellybean Rom but I'm quite unsatisfied with the experience I'm getting from my phone. Samsung Dialer/Contacts and Messenger are slow to open and it doesnt really quite feel like a phone running Jellybean (yes ive tried alternative apps such as exdialer with the missed call patch).
I recall the JB experience i got from my galaxy i9003 (crappy asian galaxy S) which was a lot more enjoyable/smoother than what im getting now on the S3. Therefore the plan to switch to PA
Now the question is, aside from the issues mentioned on the PA thread (camera getting stuck when taking pics w/ front cam, no FM out, no TV out) are there any other issues or things that I'll be trading off by switching to PA?
Can I get a general consensus regarding PA vs sammy roms? Advantages/Disadvantages? Looking forward to your input
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I am a big fan of Paranoid Android, always used their ROM, but recently changed to Omega due to Dualboot compatibility, and to be honest, it is a lot more stable than other ROMs I have found.
Omega v2.0 is awsome with the aosp/aokp UI style and Omega v29 is the standard Android UI. Worth doing a Dual Boot with the both of them.
Hey guys I'm giving my dad my nook tablet 16 gig since I haven't used it in over a year. I was wondering for a guy with no teck skills which rom would work best for him. He might play a game or two, surf the web, check email, but nothing else. Which one can do these things with the lease amount of issues? Thanks!
I'm sure any of the nightly or stable CM10.1 works just fine, but personally I always go back to Succulent's CM10 Final 1231 build.http://iamafanof.wordpress.com/2012/11/03/cm10-0-jelly-bean-for-nook-tablet-uploading/
It is strictly a matter of opinion though, and you really can't get a "right" answer to that question.
I have stuck to the official CM10.1 (I think release 2) and have been very happy. Excellent job by the devs getting it officially supported
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