Seriously at this point with the whole issue of contesting the SLCD 2 as "better", would you ever settle for a non-oled screen?
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Honestly, I think all the new screens look amazing. Ours especially, everyone I know with a smartphone they always get upset when they realize they don't have a Samsung with such a good screen.
This is my first Samsung phone, previously all i've had was HTC phones.. I'll say the last htc phone i had was the thunderbolt and sensation(yeah qHD.. not that great.), and they dont even come close..
YeH I came from an Atrix. The difference is ....astounding.
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I laugh at my Moto Backflip when I see it now and think "how the hell did I even use this thing" haha. I was so close to getting an HTC Inspire when ATT had the refurb GS2 for $10 and am sooooo glad I got it instead. One of the first times I'm not already anxious for my contract to run out to upgrade my phone.
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Before this phone I had the Inspire...I don't think I'll ever buy a phone without a superamoled screen
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YeH I came from an Atrix. The difference is ....astounding.
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That may be an understatement.
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I had the HTC inspire and it dropped calls restarted it ruined my want for any other HTC device
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I too came from the HTC Inspire to the SGS2...and the screen difference is just silly. However I can't knock the Inspire too badly...it was my first Android phone after owning iphones for 4 years straight and it was a pleasant experience. Lots of dev support too.
But no question I prefer Samsung now.
I love my G S II, and the vibrant screen. But, I haven't spent any time with the ONE X. Isn't that the first time any one (like a reviewer, professional etc, not a user here on xda) has claimed the SLCD 2 to be better than SAMOLED(+)? I've heard complaints that colors are oversaturated on the SAMOLED screens, but that's it. I prefer my screen over my wife's iPhone 4, but mostly because of size.
I have no loyalty to SAMOLED, I wouldn't let that drive my decision. I don't worry about technology details, I want to see and use it. The GS II has the best screen I've seen and used in person (I haven't had an opportunity to really play with the Galaxy Nexus either). I think I would prefer GS III over ONE X, but not because of the screen. If anything, the consensus is the ONE X screen takes the cake. I do have some loyalty to Samsung, though. Its been a long time since I've seen a really nice HTC, and I'm hesitant to jump on the first one.
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In the last two years I've had the Inspire, iPhone 4, Infuse, and SGS2.
The Inspire had the worst screen. I prefer the Infuse and SGS2 over the iPhone 4 screen despite the lower resolution.
I will not get a phone without SAMOLED unless the model has an engineering flaw (ie Galaxy S nonfunctional GPS). I love the deep black and vivid colors.
* I just wanted to add... The argument that a SAMOLED 1280x720 pentile screen doesn't look good is BS. Having played with a friend's Note, I can honestly say I cannot notice the pentile layout.
I recently checked out the galaxy nexus screen in person and wow, the pentile is no big deal! It's just so great seeing real blacks, especially in the dark.. Makes it look like things are floating
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I don't know why, but sammy's infuse samoled looks better than my I777.... The last one looks green-ish
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SAMOLED screens have true blacks... because those pixels are turned off... but the new SLCD2 screens have true whites where as SAMOLED whites have a blueish tint because they tend to run colder.
It depends on what you like.
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I don't know why, but sammy's infuse samoled looks better than my I777.... The last one looks green-ish
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Same here. My previous phone (Infuse) also had the trademark over-saturated popping out colors, but whites were very white and it was overall an amazing screen. For some reason, my SII's screen is a little bit dull and greenish as well, with whites not being quite as white, if not kind of yellowish.
Interestingly, I compared my SII's screen with my friend's (also SII) and they were very different. My friend's was more like my Infuse's, with crisp whites and the poppy colors. For some reason, it's just some SII units that seem to have a darkened/dulled out whites kind of screen. I don't know if it's a hardware issue or a software one, but regardless, it is the only thing right now that is preventing me from thinking my SII is flawless.
Someone else also told me that AMOLED screens can be a bit inconsistent and so the variation between even same units can be noticeable. That didn't really make me feel better because that just means I got the poopy screen while someone else got the nice one =_=
Went from a vibrant to a sensation. Blacks on SAMOLED are amazing, but I can totally live with LCD. One thing I could not live at all with is the burn in effect on AMOLED. This drove me crazy, as much as I loved the colors, I couldn't live with that.
I have a perfect screen luckily
I've never had the burn in effect
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Went from a vibrant to a sensation. Blacks on SAMOLED are amazing, but I can totally live with LCD. One thing I could not live at all with is the burn in effect on AMOLED. This drove me crazy, as much as I loved the colors, I couldn't live with that.
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I don't think the screen has actual burn in unless the screen is on an absurd amount of time, like a demo. If you are referring to what I think you are, its more like ghosting.
The captivate did this too. I could see what looked like burn in from the clock over certain colors. The xda app splash screen was an easy one to pick it out. Its worse on my GS II. The funny thing is the areas that are black in the notification shade cause a bigger effect than the areas lit up. I see the top bar being a little dulled, except the areas I would expect burn in, like the clock or signal. Because its reversed and black causes more discoloration I believe what I heard in the captivate days. It'd residual energy build up or something. They compared it to an e-ink screen. If the screen doesn't get a full refresh you see ghosts of images that look burned in. But you can clear them by refreshing the whole screen. A reboot for me almost always makes the effect go away. It then slowly accumulates and gets worse. The residual image also changes as I change ROMs or themes.
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Yeah, I love the sAMOLED+ on my i777.
But, I will say that while the blacks are deep and lovely, the whites have a very very slight tinge of coolness (blue) to them, which in certain conditions is annoying to me. I tend to only really notice when I look from my nice IPS computer monitor down to my phone.
Sometimes the colors are a little too saturated for me. I wish saturation was adjustable. Anyone know any tricks?
I had an Atrix with the pentile display before, and while the whites were a bit more neutral, the pentile-ness was definitely perceivable. There's a granularity that doesn't happen on my GS2.
I kinda miss that lapdock though.
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Does anyone eleses yellows and Greens look off esp the yellows they seem to be very dull and off and almost orange
I agree, the market icon look Olive-colored on Atrix 4G
A lot of you were looking at the oversaturated SAMOLED screens for a long time... this is way more natural.
No qhd is just not as good as super amloed its facts.
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A lot of you were looking at the oversaturated SAMOLED screens for a long time... this is way more natural.
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But the color does not feel as good as my laptop screen...
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No qhd is just not as good as super amloed its facts.
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Qhd is not a screen technology, its a resolution.
And the problem with the colors isn't that they're dull or unsaturated compared to a super amoled., that's to be expexted. The problem is that the colors are just wrong compared to just about any screen you want to compare it too, load up some websites on the phone and a well calibrated desktop monitor and you'll easily see the difference.
Compared to my captivate im really happy. That thing made skin tones green or orange.
It has to be reiterated. The oled display technology OVERsaturates the colors. As in, the colors are overly vibrant. The atrix will more accurately display colors.
Ok, saying this again. We (at least I) am not saying this in comparison to a samoled screen, the colors on a regular LCD will obviously never look like that, the colors on the amoled are completely wrong. However that doesn't mean the atrix has them right, just look at the screen compared to a well calibrated computer monitor.
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It has to be reiterated. The oled display technology OVERsaturates the colors. As in, the colors are overly vibrant. The atrix will more accurately display colors.
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The problem is that the LCD on Atrix 4G is not accurate compare to other LCD screens...
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The problem is that the LCD on Atrix 4G is not accurate compare to other LCD screens...
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Bumping this to get some attention on this issue.
I'm considering returning my Atrix because of how bad yellows and blues look, compared to OTHER LCDs, not compared to Super AMOLED screens.
I lined up my Captivate, Atrix, iPod Touch 4, and my wife's HTC Evo Shift and fired up Words with Friends on all of them. While it's clear that the Captivate is oversaturated, if you take that out of the equation, the Atrix's colors just look bad compared to the other two LCDs. The yellow tiles look "dirty" like they have a brown or greenish tint to them. The light blues in the tabs on the home screen of Words with Friends look like they have a greenish tint as well.
I've seen a lot of people say that they think it's one of the greatest displays ever, up there on par with the iPhone 4. If that's true, I really hope mine and other people seeing this just have defective models that can be exchanged.
I'm going into my AT&T store sometime tonight or tomorrow in hopes of putting two or more Atrices side by side to compare.
If anyone else seeing this problem could do the same, it would be very helpful. Especially as it seems likely that a random one pulled out in store could have the same defect.
Scott, I have my atrix boxed up ready to go back for the same issues. I went to the at&t store and looked at their 3 demo units, all of them looked the same.
If you go to a verizon store and play with a motorola droid x you'll see that its screen looks the same as well, it's just whatever panel maker motorola is using. People that are saying "It's the greatest screen evar, just as good as the iphone 4" are suffering new gadget love and can't see the flaws. It's not the worst screen ever but it is a definite step down from other manufacturers screens.
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Scott, I have my atrix boxed up ready to go back for the same issues. I went to the at&t store and looked at their 3 demo units, all of them looked the same.
The screens also look just like the motorola droid x's screen, so it's just whatever panel maker motorola is using. People that are saying "It's the greatest screen evar, just as good as the iphone 4" are suffering new gadget love and can't see the flaws. It's not the worst screen ever but it is a definite step down from other manufacturers screens.
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Thanks for the reply, mjgunn, as sad as it makes me
Just compared it to my iPhone 4 - yellow is way way way off. Can they even fix that? iPhone 4 seems to have the best screen by a long shot...
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Just compared it to my iPhone 4 - yellow is way way way off. Can they even fix that? iPhone 4 seems to have the best screen by a long shot...
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I would have to agree, the iphone4 has a pretty good display. It is a bit oversaturated, but does look pleasing to the eye. The iphone is also much smoother when using the pinch to zoom feature. With the Atrix having a dual core processor, I thought it would at least be on par with the iphone, but for some reason it's definitely not as smooth.
Oh well... just my 2 cents.
So I went in to an AT&T store last night and compared my Atrix with their demo unit.
The colors seem a little bit better, but interestingly, the demo unit's display didn't seem as bright as my Atrix, and it may have had slightly higher contrast.
I got one of the associates to look at it and agree that mine had a slight color cast to it. They said they would do a replacement for me if I came back with my paperwork from my online order, so I said I would do that today or Saturday.
I went straight home and compared my Atrix again to my wife's HTC Evo Shift. In doing that, I still felt like the color on her screen was significantly better than on mine, and in seemed better than I remembered the store's demo unit, as well.
So, I think I need to get my phone and her phone both in there, side by side with the demo unit, and see if I could live with the screen if it was exactly the same as the demo unit. I think probably yes, given the other major advantages of this phone (qHD resolution, Tegra 2, 1GB RAM), but as a graphic designer, bad colors are hard for me to take. And colors that are off in the way the Atrix's screen is off are a graver sin to me than oversaturating a la Super AMOLED.
Bottom line, I'm still on the fence. Has anyone else done any other tests?
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I would have to agree, the iphone4 has a pretty good display. It is a bit oversaturated, but does look pleasing to the eye.
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Wait, so now the iPhone's IPS LCD is oversaturated too? Let's face it: Atrix is weak on colors -thanks to the RGBW PenTile display, where they tried to prolong its life by replacing some Blue tiles with White tiles -which makes colors pale.
It does look great with flesh tones though. Ill give it that.
People who complain about wrong colors have been looking at way oversaturated screens... as a semi advanced photographer, I can agree that the atrix screen is very very good color wise ...
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People who complain about wrong colors have been looking at way oversaturated screens... as a semi advanced photographer, I can agree that the atrix screen is very very good color wise ...
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Or they got an Atrix with a defective display, like me. Ony my Atrix, there's no getting around the fact that yellows look dirty and brown, and that certain shades of blue look greenish.
I have only experienced the screen from the og evo and the qhd on the 3d but the rave seems to be the samsung samoled screen. Those that have have hands on with other screens what is the best looking screen in your opinion? I have spent time with the retina display on the iphone 4 which is nice but is just way too small for me. I have read the super amoled plus is as good as the retina i just havent had hands on time with it. Is it that much better than the 3d's screen?
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I've had the Epic 4g (not touch) and the Nexus S 4g, EVO and EVO 3d and I can honestly say the S AMOLED screens have better color than the Evo 3d but I still prefer the Evo 3d screen.
I prefer the sgs 2 screen is really good too bad is not 720p cause those phones got some really big screen, so far my favorite definition and screen is the iPhone 4, really make a difference when looking right next to another phone , evo 3d is just wash out for some reason
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From what I've heard, the lg nova screen is the best screen on the market. I haven't actually seen one though. I thought the sgs2 screen was too cartoony looking.
iPhone 4 was nice but I agree that it was too small. I had one for about 8 months and then went to an atrix. The pentile display was pretty crappy.
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I like my 3d screem the best. Super amiled looks dark all the time to me and the iphone 4 whites look pink. Maybe i just had 2 bad phones.
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I am definitely interested in seeing the 720 hd display on the new google phone. I am just amazed how fast phones are progressing. I wish they had a 6 month upgrade plan and even then you would be behind the times. I am still shocked at the camera on the prime though. I know mp arent the only thing that matters but at this point 8 is the standard it seems and many are coming in at 12mp. Hell i remember when phones first got cameras and how awesome everyone thought they were
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I had the Nexus one before and right after I switched to the 3D I noticed the screen wasn't as good as the AMOLED. That being said, after a couple days it wasn't an issue, I only noticed after using it for over a year and immediately comparing it.
Side by side there's a difference but the E3D screen is just fine. I wouldn't base any decisions off the screen.
EVO 3D screen is good enough for me...
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iphone screen size is too small... 3.5"
Super amoled is superior in terms of color, but it is darker than qhd. I personally like the qhd, and even with a side by side comparison to the best screen out there I would never have that be what determines the phone I get
I think that samoled is prettier to look at, but I'm happy with the Evo 3d's qhd crispness!
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After having both an AMOLED incredible and an nexus S 4g with a super AMOLED, I couldn't go back.
I'm actually more concerned with screen resolution than screen type. After using qHd I could never go back to 800x480.
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I'm actually more concerned with screen resolution than screen type. After using qHd I could never go back to 800x480.
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This. Especially when using LCD Changer and changing the density to a smaller one..the E3D shines!
My friends have the SGSII, NS4G, and Epic 4G. After using their phones I feel like my screen is definitely second-rate, although the qHD aspect of the EVO 3D's screen is soooo incredibly awesome.
The SGSII may be only 480x800, but each pixel also has 3 sub-pixels, so keep that in mind when bashing it's resolution.
After owning the E3D and now the SGS2, I must say the SGS2 screen just amazes me everytime I look at it. Resolution truly means nothing when comparing these 2 screens.
I do agree that the SGS2 looks more cartoony but I think it just looks more fun because of that. The E3D looks like a much more series screen. The colors on the E3D look extremely washed out when comparing to an Super Amoled Plus Screen. It almost looks like the screen has been sitting out in the sun for months and just faded.....
Speaking of the sun, when outdoors the SGS2 screen can be seen crystal clear as well. It can't even be explained, it is just something you need to see. The screen just cuts through the sun....
You just need to decide what is important to you and go with it. To some the screen means everything, to others not so much.....Either way the SGS2 takes the cake when comparing screens.......
SAMOLED by a mile. As for people saying the SAMOLED screens look over-saturated: You're probably just too used to the washed out LCD look. I truly miss my Epic's screen, even with it having a pentile sub-pixel matrix.
Best things about the sgs2 screen is the color depth, the whites and blacks are amazing. The evo3d screen as a lot better resolution, but you get used to it after a few weeks. As far as the oversaturaed look people mentioned , there are different modes in the display settings to adjust the color saturation to your liking.
I try but i just cant see why everybody likes amoled so much. I tried to love my nexus s 4g screen but couldnt handle it. Its so dark, the whites look like they need bleached. I have noticed that the evo3d only looks bad when someone is taking a video of it such as youtube. I do need to spend more time with the samoled plus screen. Im also not buying in the the samsung 3 sub-pixl thing either.
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I try but i just cant see why everybody likes amoled so much. I tried to love my nexus s 4g screen but couldnt handle it. Its so dark, the whites look like they need bleached. I have noticed that the evo3d only looks bad when someone is taking a video of it such as youtube. I do need to spend more time with the samoled plus screen. Im also not buying in the the samsung 3 sub-pixl thing either.
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The screen is different on the sgs2 then it is on the Nexus 4G. On the sgs2 the screen is nice and bright, far from being considered to dark. You really need to see it in person, you cannot base your opinion off of the Nexus 4G, they are different screens.
I set my 3D to full brightness, and did the same with my bro's Nexus-S 4G ...we then opened up the first level of Angry Birds RIO since the game has pretty much every color under the sun. The colors on the Nexus were richer, with more contrast...but the smaller details were far far better on the Evo. The most obvious difference was the eyes in the birds. On the Evo they were clearly detailed, you could see the outter and inner eye while on the Nexus it pretty much a blur with some pixelation. Try it out. I also felt the 3D had a second rate screen as well, still do actually, but that was a welcome surprise.
I have a Photon and a Defy. Why Photon resolution is so bad? I can see the dots on screen...
Colors are so desaturated, specially yellow's...
I'm deeply disappointed with that...
Its the pentile hd display, yeah some colors show a little pixelation when you look closely, but ive always loved the screen and thought the colors were better displayed than the over-saturated colors in AOLED(did I spell that right?) Anyways, at firdt I thought the pixelation might bother me but It doesnt one bit cause its such a small difference for me atleast.. I love the color contrast though!
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AMOLED close enough though lol. And I use to think the same thing, but I really started to like the screen. Yeah its a little pixelated, but bright and easy to see. Just don't try to pay so much attention to it, and it won't bother you as much. Also don't use your phone so close to your face like I used to do haha.
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I had Defy, before Photon and I had the same problem with screen. But I must say, it's only a question of manner. Now I am satisfied with screen of Photon.
Pentile take getting used to, really wish they'd made it 720p so you can't notice but I like the display anyway
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I have a Photon and a Defy. Why Photon resolution is so bad? I can see the dots on screen...
Colors are so desaturated, specially yellow's...
I'm deeply disappointed with that...
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So, why did you buy it? I've had mine 9 months and spent an hour with it in a store to make sure the screen worked with my eyes.
Isn't it about 9 months too late to be whining about something nobody forced you to buy?
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AMOLED close enough though lol. And I use to think the same thing, but I really started to like the screen. Yeah its a little pixelated, but bright and easy to see. Just don't try to pay so much attention to it, and it won't bother you as much. Also don't use your phone so close to your face like I used to do haha.
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yes! I forgot to add that cause im ao use to it now, the screen is SO easy to see,with brightness turned off and in the sun, you can still read your screen! Yeah you should probably turn up the brightness but every other phone you cant see a thing in the sun with the brightness off, very good for the battery!
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I've never noticed an issue with the display. Sure, I can see pixels if I look really close... and when quickly scrolling, it gets kinda blurry.
Still, I had the HTC Hero S (US Cellular's equivalent of you Sprint folks' HTC Evo Design 4G... but without the 4G) for six days, and my wife got the Electrify, and after seeing her screen, I traded. Hero S/Evo Design has the same number of pixels, but a smaller (4.0") screen. It had a very nice screen, but I wanted a bigger one. And when I got my Electrify, it just felt like the right phone.
I've seen Samsung's AMOLED screens. They aren't bad, but they aren't a selling point, to me. My last phone was a Samsung, and the call and reception quality going from Samsung to Motorola was huge, and the battery life isn't bad, either.
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I've never noticed an issue with the display. Sure, I can see pixels if I look really close... and when quickly scrolling, it gets kinda blurry.
Still, I had the HTC Hero S (US Cellular's equivalent of you Sprint folks' HTC Evo Design 4G... but without the 4G) for six days, and my wife got the Electrify, and after seeing her screen, I traded. Hero S/Evo Design has the same number of pixels, but a smaller (4.0") screen. It had a very nice screen, but I wanted a bigger one. And when I got my Electrify, it just felt like the right phone.
I've seen Samsung's AMOLED screens. They aren't bad, but they aren't a selling point, to me. My last phone was a Samsung, and the call and reception quality going from Samsung to Motorola was huge, and the battery life isn't bad, either.
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Good post.
I moved from the EVO to EVO 4G to Photon. From reading reviews at time I considered the Photon, I was fully prepared to hate the pentile screen. But, my eyes just plain did not see the pentile pixelation (from reading posts at the time, some peoples' eyes saw it, some didn't). I spent an hour in the store before buying the Photon.
During my return window, the Samsung Epic came out with larger screen (physically, but lower-res). Back to the store I go - I found the Sammy's screen to be way over-saturated wrt colors, and washed out in the sun.
I'm thinking about buying the Galaxy S III, but the Pentile screen is really holding me back. I mean, why buy a device with a screen that looks bad and has to be looked at for several hours a week?
I've heard that at high resolution, Pentile screens don't matter. But I want some opinions from all you people out there.
And what would you expect to see looking at a poor quality entitle screen?
My s3 is probably the clearest looking screen I've looked upon
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I've read some of the older device reviews on tech websites and whenever the device had a Pentile screen, the review always criticized it.
I'll trust Samsung on this, since there pretty good at making screens.
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I've read some of the older device reviews on tech websites and whenever the device had a Pentile screen, the review always criticized it.
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Older AMOLED Pentile Display were bad because they have a low ppi (240ppi on the SGS1)
But SGS3 screen has a 306ppi and the "pentile effect" seems to be not there (at least I do not see it on my SGS3
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Older AMOLED Pentile Display were bad because they have a low ppi (240ppi on the SGS1)
But SGS3 screen has a 306ppi and the "pentile effect" seems to be not there (at least I do not see it on my SGS3
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No matter what? Even if you're holding it like a inch away from your phone? I usually use my iPod touch (I have a Blackberry phone, it sucks for web browsing) when in the mornings when I don't feel like getting out of my bed. I usually hold it just 6 inches away from my eyes.
My S3 has to be the clearest screen I have ever seen. Had it for a few days now and still doesn't fail to amaze me whenever I turn the screen on.
You don't have to worry about holding it 6 inches or even 2 inches away from your face.
Its really beautiful...much better then my Nexus...
The best way to solve your problem is to go the nearest store and have a look at the demo unit. Don't believe what you hear or read, believe what you see.
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The best way to solve your problem is to go the nearest store and have a look at the demo unit. Don't believe what you hear or read, believe what you see.
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This.
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This.
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I live in a semi-rural area. The closest store to me is a over a hour's drive away. My schedule for the next couple weeks is packed, I will not have enough time to go over to the closest store and look at the phones.
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I'm thinking about buying the Galaxy S III, but the Pentile screen is really holding me back. I mean, why buy a device with a screen that looks bad and has to be looked at for several hours a week?
I've heard that at high resolution, Pentile screens don't matter. But I want some opinions from all you people out there.
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I saw the Motorola Droid Razr before I knew what pentile was and I thought it looked weird and pixellated so it's certainely not placebo. At the ppi of the GS3 it doesn't matter imo. I do still notice it (but not like I can count the pixels.. but it just is a little bit different then normal rgb screens) but the screen is still somehow the best I've seen in a phone.
You shouldn't keep yourself from buying it because of this as it not even really noticable, it's the best screen there is imo and it even spares some battery.
I can notice the pentile effect if I stare hard at the screen from less than 10cm away. I've compared my S3 to the HOX and the HOX does indeed has a finer screen. But still the S3 has one amazing screen. The blacks are much better although the colours seems a little over saturated and slightly on the warm side.
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I live in a semi-rural area. The closest store to me is a over a hour's drive away. My schedule for the next couple weeks is packed, I will not have enough time to go over to the closest store and look at the phones.
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Well then I guess you have two options 1.) Wait two weeks and then go look at the phone 2.) Go with a different phone.
The only time I notice the pentile screen is whilst reading some text. It is barely recognisable but if and when you notice it you'll subconsciously start to look out for it. But it is very minor indeed, and changing the font of text helps to more or less eradicate it.
Aside from that minor quibble re text I have to say that this screen is absolutely awesome. Colours and contrast are absolutely amazing. I tend to set the screen mode to Natural as I think this gives the best colour effect.
I know this screen is awesome because when I switch from it to my iPad 3's retina screen I don't feel any degradation, if anything pictures and videos look better on it than on the iPad 3 - and that's saying something!
Does this screen have the same issues as the Galaxy Nexus screen? Purple tint at low bright setting and whites looking like old yellow newspaper?
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Does this screen have the same issues as the Galaxy Nexus screen? Purple tint at low bright setting and whites looking like old yellow newspaper?
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I didn't own the G Nexus, but there is no purple tint at low brightness. My S2 had a slight yet noticeable yellowing at low brightness - this does not
Yes, if you will use the phone under a magnifying glass
"Super Amoled Plus" will never work with High Resolution. They are not designed for that.
Move up dude
I my opinion It is noticeable, but only at ~3" away and I do have 20/20 vision but in any other situation It's fine, I have even fooled a few friends who own an s2 that it was a 'plus' display but as above you are best going to have a look
Its noticeable, coming from an Xperia S (which I gave to my wife for this phone) and having a G Note which died before the Xperia S, its the same for me as the G Note.
It's mainly around fonts and small icons which is more noticeable, definitely not in pictures unless you have super vision, but most of the time you're looking at fonts or small icons, so yes its there.
But FWIW I wouldn't trade it for the contrast, I've never owned a phone with such contrast (actually the Note was the same), but having said that in sunlight forget using this phone, side by side in sunlight with the Xperia S, the Sony wins hands down.
Galaxy S 4 Active.
It looks AWESOME. (And I like hard buttons).
Anyone think it's coming to Verizon?
If so I'm ready to buy. Really ready. No more dead phone in the toilet.
Screen that works in the rain, camera takes pics underwater, etc. Awesome. Bonus: probably better pix thanks to smaller megapixel count.
Ya, I'm super excited about this too. I just bought my S4 last week full retail...but I'll probably end up selling it and buying this one when it comes out. Not having to keep a case on the phone and not having to worry about having plastic baggies with me when I go to a game when it might rain...completely worth it.
Plus it's not a pentile screen, so the screen should actually look *better* than the one on the stock S4.
I dare my asshole friends to push me in the pool again
hotleadsingerguy said:
Ya, I'm super excited about this too. I just bought my S4 last week full retail...but I'll probably end up selling it and buying this one when it comes out. Not having to keep a case on the phone and not having to worry about having plastic baggies with me when I go to a game when it might rain...completely worth it.
Plus it's not a pentile screen, so the screen should actually look *better* than the one on the stock S4.
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I know I just got more excited, I just noticed it has an LCD screen. I've always hated AMOLED with a passion. PenTile more so.
Samsung screens are dim, plus they wear out, go yellow, burn in, have tint, blotches at night, colors are not accurate, and then there is pentile. Which is even a bit noticeable on S3 though not quite so bad. And to be fair Note 2 is pretty good, and S4 is too. The worst part is how incredibly dim the AMOLED is, it's nuts. However I have gotten used to the nice black levels, that's one thing I'll miss.
We need this on Verizon.
WOW This is BS I am an active runner and gym rat and this makes me grrrrr, I already got the s4 on a payment plan!!!! Dam it
nes4r2 said:
WOW This is BS I am an active runner and gym rat and this makes me grrrrr, I already got the s4 on a payment plan!!!! Dam it
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Yeah not to mention that they announce the HTC one is also coming out right after my 14 day return window closed!!
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I know I just got more excited, I just noticed it has an LCD screen. I've always hated AMOLED with a passion. PenTile more so.
Samsung screens are dim, plus they wear out, go yellow, burn in, have tint, blotches at night, colors are not accurate, and then there is pentile. Which is even a bit noticeable on S3 though not quite so bad. And to be fair Note 2 is pretty good, and S4 is too. The worst part is how incredibly dim the AMOLED is, it's nuts. However I have gotten used to the nice black levels, that's one thing I'll miss.
We need this on Verizon.
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The S4 doesn't have any of those oled issues.. You can't even tell it's pentile..
Diversion said:
The S4 doesn't have any of those oled issues.. You can't even tell it's pentile..
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Is it as bright as an HTC One LCD? I haven't compared but I'd imagine it's not even close.
PenTile used to be my main issue with AMOLED aside from dimness. Yes, I agree that is mostly fixed with higher resolution now, although if you look close you can still see it.
The rest of the issues are still valid, particularly how darn dim AMOLED is and how crappy whites look. Generally I feel LCD is still superior overall, and for all those reasons. And I didn't even mention the black crush/contrast issue which I expect still persists.
This is why Active with LCD has me SUPER EXCITED!!
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Is it as bright as an HTC One LCD? I haven't compared but I'd imagine it's not even close.
PenTile used to be my main issue with AMOLED aside from dimness. Yes, I agree that is mostly fixed with higher resolution now, although if you look close you can still see it.
The rest of the issues are still valid, particularly how darn dim AMOLED is and how crappy whites look. Generally I feel LCD is still superior overall, and for all those reasons. And I didn't even mention the black crush/contrast issue which I expect still persists.
This is why Active with LCD has me SUPER EXCITED!!
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It's still an issue. This phone is downright dark when outdoors in sunlight. I have to shield the phone if I want to be able to see anything at all on the screen. Next to the iPhone 5 or HTC One the difference is huge when in bright light.
I can't wait for the Active...it's pretty much the ideal phone, IMO. Tough, waterproof, and awesome specs.
Case and point:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mUswj7SH3k
LCD FTW. I hope the LCD on the Active is just like the One