Makes me feel much better!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1644167
Nice. Wonder if that's permanent, and what's the status on bootloader, and custom recovery.
Sent From My Half Dead HTC Evo 3D, On The Now Network From Virgin Mobile?
I wouldn't be surprised if HTC patches that before the release of the Evo LTE.
Sent from my PG86100 using XDA
I agree this does make me feel better but since the 3d now has plenty of working ICS builds i'm starting to think i might not NEED my evo lte. Considering dumping the preorder. I don't see much difference between the two now that i have ICS. Any thoughts? LTE non nonexistent , NFC (at least where i'm at) is also non nonexistent.
I do like the slightly bigger battery, and krait seems power friendly.
mak0blu said:
I agree this does make me feel better but since the 3d now has plenty of working ICS builds i'm starting to think i might not NEED my evo lte. Considering dumping the preorder. I don't see much difference between the two now that i have ICS. Any thoughts? LTE non nonexistent , NFC (at least where i'm at) is also non nonexistent.
I do like the slightly bigger battery, and krait seems power friendly.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm buying it, but only because it's the next big thing. I'll probably order it this weekend, and sell my EVO 3D next weekend with all of it's accessories to pay for it.
I like the larger battery. The processor is a huge upgrade. Sense 4.0 with ImageSense will definitely be useful (I have a daughter and I'm always taking pictures when we're out. Although, I just bought a $1000 DSLR, but I don't like dragging it everywhere with me). The fact that this model has an SD card slot, AND 16GB onboard is a big selling point for me as well. 4.7" screen gives me more viewing area (I'd get a note, but I don't think I could EVER get out of having HTC Sense).
Yeah i forgot about the camera that is another big plus. Something else i've always wondered was the B!tch Everyone has for the non removable battery. On my OG Evo i had 6 batteries i carried around with me all the time. I hated that. Why not just buy one of those recharge packs and if you need battery in a pinch use that. So many ppl i've seen are throwing this under the bus because of not being able to remove the battery.
eXplicit815 said:
I'm buying it, but only because it's the next big thing. I'll probably order it this weekend, and sell my EVO 3D next weekend with all of it's accessories to pay for it.
I like the larger battery. The processor is a huge upgrade. Sense 4.0 with ImageSense will definitely be useful (I have a daughter and I'm always taking pictures when we're out. Although, I just bought a $1000 DSLR, but I don't like dragging it everywhere with me). The fact that this model has an SD card slot, AND 16GB onboard is a big selling point for me as well. 4.7" screen gives me more viewing area (I'd get a note, but I don't think I could EVER get out of having HTC Sense).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Rydah805 said:
Nice. Wonder if that's permanent, and what's the status on bootloader, and custom recovery.
Sent From My Half Dead HTC Evo 3D, On The Now Network From Virgin Mobile?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Its permanent. There is also a temp custom clockwork recovery that they are using to flash ROMs. They have a couple guys who have S-off on their phones but its still a WIP to get the bootloader unlocked. Looks really good for EVO LTE owners so far.
I am still on the fence about getting it. Due for my last yearly upgrade on June 1, but with the ICS leaks and the impending official release, I think I will be good for at least a little while longer. This phone getting root would drive my decision a little further to one side or the other.
Another point I forgot to mention is ACTUALLY having a true Beats capable phone. Not kinda works/kinda doesn't.
i will be glad to stop seeing n00bs refer to my phone as a "3vo"
i hope i won't be too rEVOLTEd about my choice
NewZJ said:
i will be glad to stop seeing n00bs refer to my phone as a "3vo"
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So you're upgrading to the eVOLTe?
Vinchenzop said:
So you're upgrading to the eVOLTe?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yes, buying it outright as i have no upgrade and I'm incredibley stupid and brainwashed like an apple fan fawning over a new Mac product
NewZJ said:
yes, buying it outright as i have no upgrade and I'm incredibley stupid and brainwashed like an apple fan fawning over a new Mac product
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was more trying to start a stupid name trend with "eVOLTe". But nevertheless, glad to know I'll be sering you on the other side
Can't wait, 18th is right around the corner!
Sent from my PG86100 using XDA Premium App
was really hoping they would hold off on releasing this for a few more days...I for one will emphasize to the Sales rep at my local store that i DO NOT want him/her to take it upon themselves to force an update before I walk out the door.
never accept OTA updates on phones.
i wait for trusted devs to tell me what i need to do
NewZJ said:
never accept OTA updates on phones.
i wait for trusted devs to tell me what i need to do
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sneaky sales reps sometimes do it with out you knowing
Sent from my sticky fingered ice cream sandwich Evo 3D
Fyi I saw a tweet from someone yesterday saying they have another method to optain root but they weren't releaseing it till next ota or something
Sent from my PG86100 using xda premium
Related
I know this is the EVO 3D forum so opinions will lean that way but I'm going back to Sprint from T-Mobile. Should I get the 3D or wait a month and get the Motorola Photon? Which will be the better phone?
Depends on what you are looking for. If 3 matters obviously the 3d. If you are a sense fan then the 3d as well. However I kind of like that the photon has some of the things the 3vo is missing. For one the kickstand not deal breaker but it comes in handy and an 8Mp camera with 1080p video as opposed to 5mp with 720p. Now the big draw back. The motorolla is supposed to ship with a locked bootloader. So if you like to run roms you are rolling the dice. It may or may not be unlocked at a future date. Personally I trust the 3vo to be rooted much sooner than the photon. All that said check out the Samsung Nexus II as well. Looks to be a contender.
Can anyone dispute the claim made in this article about Motorola?
http://www.nzweek.com/technology/motorola-will-unlock-bootloader-3573/
eclipse13 said:
Depends on what you are looking for. If 3 matters obviously the 3d. If you are a sense fan then the 3d as well. However I kind of like that the photon has some of the things the 3vo is missing. For one the kickstand not deal breaker but it comes in handy and an 8Mp camera with 1080p video as opposed to 5mp with 720p. Now the big draw back. The motorolla is supposed to ship with a locked bootloader. So if you like to run roms you are rolling the dice. It may or may not be unlocked at a future date. Personally I trust the 3vo to be rooted much sooner than the photon. All that said check out the Samsung Nexus II as well. Looks to be a contender.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
murusmaximus said:
Can anyone dispute the claim made in this article about Motorola?
http://www.nzweek.com/technology/motorola-will-unlock-bootloader-3573/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm just saying thats on the word of a dude on twitter and then it says at the end of the year and at the discrection of the carrier. Either way it is supposed to ship with a locked bootloader and you will likely be waiting a while. IMHO thats a crap shoot you may or may not get an unlocked bootloader. I wish it wasn't so I really like this phone better than the 3vo for my personal needs but what to do.
Isn't the 3vo going to be locked as well to start? I know HTC came out and said they will no longer lock bootloaders, but there seems to be no confirmation on 1.) If they will even allow the 3vo to be unlocked, and 2.) If so, when that will happen. It's all a crapshoot I guess.
eclipse13 said:
I'm just saying thats on the word of a dude on twitter and then it says at the end of the year and at the discrection of the carrier. Either way it is supposed to ship with a locked bootloader and you will likely be waiting a while. IMHO thats a crap shoot you may or may not get an unlocked bootloader. I wish it wasn't so I really like this phone better than the 3vo for my personal needs but what to do.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
another turn off from the photon is the pentile screen
Good point maximus I'm just going off past performance and HTC's official stance to disable the bootloaders. I trust them more to follow through than Motorola but alas this is all just my opinion.
It all depends on HTC I guess. There are going to be a lot of disappointed 3vo owners if they finally realize after a few weeks that the devs can't work miracles and unlock encrypted bootloaders. No custom ROMs or modifications unless HTC comes through.
eclipse13 said:
Good point maximus I'm just going off past performance and HTC's official stance to disable the bootloaders. I trust them more to follow through than Motorola but alas this is all just my opinion.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
murusmaximus said:
It all depends on HTC I guess. There are going to be a lot of disappointed 3vo owners if they finally realize after a few weeks that the devs can't work miracles and unlock encrypted bootloaders. No custom ROMs or modifications unless HTC comes through.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
HTC has already confirmed the 3d will be unlocked....they specifically said the 3d so that's not a question.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA Premium App
Can you provide a link? I haven't read that yet.
swaze said:
HTC has already confirmed the 3d will be unlocked....they specifically said the 3d so that's not a question.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA Premium App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
all of the phones are locked right? doesn't it come down to being encrypted or not?
murusmaximus said:
Can you provide a link? I haven't read that yet.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Its somewhere in this board back when HTC announced they changed their policy. The email directly from the CEO specifically said the 3d would be unlocked. Can't recall the title of the thread but there were multiple.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA Premium App
That's great he said that, but will that be next month or in 6 months? No one knows really, and he may have said that at the time to calm people down who were angry over it. I'm not saying HTC is going to go back on their word, but there still is nothing set in stone in my book.
swaze said:
Its somewhere in this board back when HTC announced they changed their policy. The email directly from the CEO specifically said the 3d would be unlocked. Can't recall the title of the thread but there were multiple.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA Premium App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
murusmaximus said:
That's great he said that, but will that be next month or in 6 months? No one knows really, and he may have said that at the time to calm people down who were angry over it. I'm not saying HTC is going to go back on their word, but there still is nothing set in stone in my book.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OK. That's your opinion. But given that the appropriate devs have the Eng bootloader in hand already, I would expect root not too long after its released....assuming no encryption. But well see I guess.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA Premium App
There's going to be a massive flood of these things on eBay in about 4-6 months if they don't unencrypt it, and the "next" best thing comes along. I think part of the success of the evo4g was the development aspect of it. I just hope HTC realizes that. Could have great potential if they push an update out fairly quickly so there is an easy method to root.
swaze said:
OK. That's your opinion. But given that the appropriate devs have the Eng bootloader in hand already, I would expect root not too long after its released....assuming no encryption. But well see I guess.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA Premium App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
murusmaximus said:
There's going to be a massive flood of these things on eBay in about 4-6 months if they don't unencrypt it, and the "next" best thing comes along. I think part of the success of the evo4g was the development aspect of it. I just hope HTC realizes that. Could have great potential if they push an update out fairly quickly so there is an easy method to root.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If it is encrypted at launch I would expect an ota update fairly quickly the next day or so to fix it. After all the bad press I doubt they will drop the ball on this issue.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA Premium App
As far as the Photon being locked it will be. Now As far as that memo, There are bits and pieces missing. However it's not the 1st Motorola has said it will no longer lock the phones down. in fact every time I have seen this pop up it's been almost the exact same thing, even the "by the end of the year." But I have also read multiple times that that statements means phones coming out at the end of the year the Photon is not included in that group. I believe if you look on XDA as well as the internet you can find that to be true.
I just want to make sure I get the best phone out there and don't miss out. I sign up with Sprint on the 23rd to take advantage of the switch over deal and will get the EVO 4g . The 3D comes out the next day and I read somewhere the Photon comes out in July possibly the 21st. I don't want to use a free exchange in the 1 month time period only to be disappointed I didn't wait for the other phone
napalm5479 said:
I just want to make sure I get the best phone out there and don't miss out. I sign up with Sprint on the 23rd to take advantage of the switch over deal and will get the EVO 4g . The 3D comes out the next day and I read somewhere the Photon comes out in July possibly the 21st. I don't want to use a free exchange in the 1 month time period only to be disappointed I didn't wait for the other phone
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The cool thing about the Photon is it has HDMI out AND Micro USB port (so it can charge while playing movies (using the two cables at once). As for the EVO 3D, it has a new technology that lets HDMI charge the phone while it's plugged into the TV for HDMI out, however NO tvs out currently support this feature, so you will have to buy an adapter.
Tegra 2 CPU (Photon) is weaker than Snapdragon (EVO 3D). They're both dual core and really fast, but EVO should be superior in most situations. Motorola has stated that the bootloader is unlocked, but some rumors have it that it's still locked down tight and uncrackable (see Droid 2). This definitely makes me lean towards HTC. One more thing, HTC seems to have alot more development behind it (far more than any other manufacturer (Samsung's catching up!). To be honest, your choices should be between the GSII (Samsung within for Sprint) or the EVO 3D.
murusmaximus said:
There's going to be a massive flood of these things on eBay in about 4-6 months if they don't unencrypt it, and the "next" best thing comes along. I think part of the success of the evo4g was the development aspect of it. I just hope HTC realizes that. Could have great potential if they push an update out fairly quickly so there is an easy method to root.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That will not have any short term impact on HTC. The amount of us that would sell would have no effect on them.
However, it's people like us that most others go to for phone advice. Once as a company loses our trust and favor the fallout regarding future phones will be exponential.
The important thing is that it will hopefully not be encrypted.
So the road for me and my Evo 3D has been a short one, i've laughed and nearly cried over updates, parts of my phone which don't work (3D) and i've finally had enough of this piece of sh** and i'm off to grab a nice quad core sgs3 because i've also had enough of HTC sh**ting on me, i'd like some new sh** from samsung please.
On top of that I do like the One X
Does anyone have any relevant reason why i shouldn't make the switch to either of these belters? Besides the fact that i'd be running two contracts at the same time? As my evo has still got around 19 months left on it.
dladz said:
So the road for me and my Evo 3D has been a short one, i've laughed and nearly cried over updates, parts of my phone which don't work (3D) and i've finally had enough of this piece of sh** and i'm off to grab a nice quad core sgs3 because i've also had enough of HTC sh**ting on me, i'd like some new sh** from samsung please.
On top of that I do like the One X
Does anyone have any relevant reason why i shouldn't make the switch to either of these belters? Besides the fact that i'd be running two contracts at the same time? As my evo has still got around 19 months left on it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
First off, don't blame HTC for updates, they already made it. Blame sprint. HTC gave them the ics update months ago.
And I say that you should get the one x. Because on Samsung, touchwiz is nice, but you end up missing sense afterwards.
Sent from my PG86100 using xda premium
dladz said:
So the road for me and my Evo 3D has been a short one, i've laughed and nearly cried over updates, parts of my phone which don't work (3D) and i've finally had enough of this piece of sh** and i'm off to grab a nice quad core sgs3 because i've also had enough of HTC sh**ting on me, i'd like some new sh** from samsung please.
On top of that I do like the One X
Does anyone have any relevant reason why i shouldn't make the switch to either of these belters? Besides the fact that i'd be running two contracts at the same time? As my evo has still got around 19 months left on it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I see your in London, is that correct? What is the shooter like over there on your network? I would think all this phone really ever needed was a decent 3g network and a dose of ics. I have been switching between myn's 2 roms (gb\ics) and meanrom and i think it still performs very well. If i had to switch i might lean towards samsung based on this article....http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/08/...s-iii-in-the-us-is-giving-samsung-a-backbone/
If you want lots of updates: Galaxy Nexus.
VictoriousShooter said:
First off, don't blame HTC for updates, they already made it. Blame sprint. HTC gave them the ics update months ago.
And I say that you should get the one x. Because on Samsung, touchwiz is nice, but you end up missing sense afterwards.
Sent from my PG86100 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
He's on GSM; you can't blame sprint. HTC is slow to update on all carriers. Lack of updates aren't HTC's only problem though, their other problem is using ridiculously proprietary hardware (so AOSP based roms are basically impossible) and the fact that they lock down their bootloaders and give you a really crappy alternative unlock.
I've moved on to the galaxy nexus, and I'm never going to get another HTC phone again.
VictoriousShooter said:
First off, don't blame HTC for updates, they already made it. Blame sprint. HTC gave them the ics update months ago.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
He lives in UK
OT: go for One X
I made the same move(still have Evo) and its great phone
dladz said:
parts of my phone which don't work (3D) and i've finally had enough of this piece of sh** and i'm off to grab a nice quad core sgs3 because i've also had enough of HTC sh**ting on me, i'd like some new sh** from samsung please.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Totally disagree. The Evo 3d is not a piece of ****. 3D works fine. HTC is not to blame here. The phone is as good as it was when you bought it. No need to insult it and HTC and the EVO 3d community now. HTC doesn't owe you anything.
There are other phones out there that are faster, bigger screens and so on. You are welcome to move onto anyone one of them. Go for it.
dladz said:
Besides the fact that i'd be running two contracts at the same time? As my evo has still got around 19 months left on it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sounds like you got lots and lots of money. So, you need the best, biggest and baddest phone out there. Must be nice.
I bought this phone outright. Never had a contract. Just reload my sim card and I'm good to go. I love the EVO 3d. Finally got Turge's ICS rom running great on it.
I wish you well in whatever forums you end up in. Peace dude.
sent from my Commodore 64
dladz said:
, i'd like some new sh** from samsung please.
On top of that I do like the One X
Does anyone have any relevant reason why i shouldn't make the switch to either of these belters?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1683945
Don't move anywhere expecting a problem free experience.
But its up to you.
Honestly I say screw the usual suspects & buy the Asus Padphone & all the extras.
Sent from my EVO LTE
My opinion: HTC One x
Root it install cm9 and you are good
Sent from my LG-P500 using xda premium
Link to the story
HTC has been really struggling lately, and now with OnLive costing them $40 million, things are definitely not looking good.
What are your thoughts on this? Do you think we're going to start seeing the effects of all of this loss soon? I'm worried about new devices releasing, as well as updates being given to existing devices, if the company keeps falling like this.
SoraX64 said:
Link to the story
HTC has been really struggling lately, and now with OnLive costing them $40 million, things are definitely not looking good.
What are your thoughts on this? Do you think we're going to start seeing the effects of all of this loss soon? I'm worried about new devices releasing, as well as updates being given to existing devices, if the company keeps falling like this.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ouch, definitely doesn't sound good. Not sure if they will be able to stay in it or not...depending on how this whole Apple/Samsung thing turns out, they may be able to use it to their advantage, but it sounds like they've got some pretty big issues to deal with. I think I'm already pretty much resigned to getting whatever Samsung's offering is when I'm eligible for my next upgrade. I had a tough time choosing this time around anyway, so I figure I'll give them a shot (never owned a Samsung)...but it sounds like that may be the "only" option if things don't improve for HTC.
Sent from my EVO LTE
Good, sometimes drastic things need to happen before a company makes drastic changes necessary.
I guess it is what it is. I am happy with the EVO LTE. I'm going with a Nexus next time around since they will hopefully be beyond the stupid pentile screens by then. Maybe we will get lucky and HTC will get a Nexus at some point in the future.
If rim and Nokia are still in business I think htc will be OK for now.. they do need to start making better decisions and listening to their customers ..they are still turning almost a billion dollar profit this quarter ..still pretty good
A company thats making a profit is about to collapse? Really? Please Explain:cyclops:
fail
how can they be making a profit and collapsing at the same time
do you even read and think before you decide to spread such garbage?
They're hurting, but I have high hopes that they come back even stronger. They need to make a few adjustments to the way they work, and it can make all the difference. For one, be as dev friendly as they used to be. Second, less device models as they made it seem like they were going to do. They need to cut as much variants out, and focus on keeping close to the same phone amongst different carriers. That's my opinion.
Sent From My HTC Evo 4G LTE, On The Now Network From Sprint!
Rydah805 said:
They're hurting, but I have high hopes that they come back even stronger. They need to make a few adjustments to the way they work, and it can make all the difference. For one, be as dev friendly as they used to be. Second, less device models as they made it seem like they were going to do. They need to cut as much variants out, and focus on keeping close to the same phone amongst different carriers. That's my opinion.
Sent From My HTC Evo 4G LTE, On The Now Network From Sprint!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i agree with your last point
Haha I love how people read a comment in an article and then talk like it's their comment.
You guys don't think a company can collapse when turning a profit? Really? How about when your profits rapidly decline quarterly, and the government is helping bail you out? Look at the trends, and you'll see why they're collapsing.
Sent from my EVO using xda app-developers app
I think HTC needs to start making phones out of plastic cause obviously no one cares what they're made off cause no one's buying them.
flex360 said:
fail
how can they be making a profit and collapsing at the same time
do you even read and think before you decide to spread such garbage?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's funny because you probably didn't even read the article.
They're making a profit, but they're still a shadow of their former glory. Their market share has plummeted and it isn't showing any signs of improving. Just because they're still pulling in money doesn't mean that everything is sunshine and rainbows for them.
HTC is still a profitable company, but with such relentless competition from Samsung and Apple, their numbers are dropping fast enough that banks are beginning to get very nervous. This could quite literally be the beginning of the end.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Do you even read and think before you post such garbage?
This indeed sucks but at this present time all i can ask for is that they release Jelly Bean before they close the doors..My wife sold her iPhone and bought the Galaxy S3 and i've been playing with it here and there and its an awesome phone...I was amazed that a stupid kitty cat live wallpaper runs flawlessly with out slowing down the scrolling on the phone..I think I may have seen the light and sipped on some of the Kool-aid..Im kinda envious
HP just took a multibillion dollar write down because of the EDS acquisition, but this was an excellent strategic investment. HTC is doing the same thing. They might be down, but they're not out.
Sent from my r00ted, unlocked, 100% tricked-out LTEVO
BrianBaker said:
This indeed sucks but at this present time all i can ask for is that they release Jelly Bean before they close the doors..My wife sold her iPhone and bought the Galaxy S3 and i've been playing with it here and there and its an awesome phone...I was amazed that a stupid kitty cat live wallpaper runs flawlessly with out slowing down the scrolling on the phone..I think I may have seen the light and sipped on some of the Kool-aid..Im kinda envious
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't think that HTC is going to go out of business. I'm hoping that they can come up with something that can stabilize them a bit. In my opinion they need to make like Samsung and give their phones more of an identity.
They need try harder to keep their phones in order instead of releasing 20 different devices. They've taken a step in the right direction with the One series, but the naming is way too confusing for most people to be able to tell what the phone is all about. HTC needs a way to make a budget, mid-end, and high-end phone that isn't different on every carrier and that represents itself well.
With the One series, you have the One X, the One XL, the One S, the One V, and I'm sure that the upcoming/rumored One "XL+" (or whatever we call it) will join that lineup as well. The names just have no way of differentiating themselves without looking into the specs. If you walked up to someone and said, "Do you want the One V or the One S?" They're going to say, "Huh? What do the letters mean?"
But with all of the growth that Samsung has seen, I'm not sure that HTC will ever be able to catch up.
That settles it...I am buying a spare Rezound
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using xda premium
BrianBaker said:
This indeed sucks but at this present time all i can ask for is that they release Jelly Bean before they close the doors..My wife sold her iPhone and bought the Galaxy S3 and i've been playing with it here and there and its an awesome phone...I was amazed that a stupid kitty cat live wallpaper runs flawlessly with out slowing down the scrolling on the phone..I think I may have seen the light and sipped on some of the Kool-aid..Im kinda envious
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Haha. I've been getting a lot of hate around here cause I crossed over to the side. Im glad someone with more credibility is seeing the light. I still get the "you don't know sh*it" when i mention 2gb of ram makes a difference.
Sent from my SPH-L710 using xda premium
shook187 said:
Haha. I've been getting a lot of hate around here cause I crossed over to the side. Im glad someone with more credibility is seeing the light. I still get the "you don't know sh*it" when i mention 2gb of ram makes a difference.
Sent from my SPH-L710 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Doesn't seem to make a differance while running cm10.. the issue is In sense
firmbiz94 said:
Doesn't seem to make a differance while running cm10.. the issue is In sense
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree. But Sense is why most brought the phone, right?
Sent from my SPH-L710 using xda premium
No... Many people on this site will likely say they bought it for the hardware, not software. This is a development forum. We know Sense can be ripped away (or at least shrink and improved).
Sent from my EVO using xda app-developers app
I'm eligible for my upgrade in Mid-Nov. I'm on the fence as between the 4G LTE and Samsung GSIII. Or, I could wait a little longer, maybe after new year, and see what is planned for Sprint's new Android lineup (if any).
I had always thought I would just stick with HTC but I am not sure anymore. The fixed battery really scares me. I rely on swapping batteries in my EVO 3D often and I have chargers everywhere as it is. That is really the only thing that makes me consider Samsung.
Anyone who's had a 4G LTE for a while now wish they got a GSIII? How is having a fixed battery?
Alpine- said:
I'm eligible for my upgrade in Mid-Nov. I'm on the fence as between the 4G LTE and Samsung GSIII. Or, I could wait a little longer, maybe after new year, and see what is planned for Sprint's new Android lineup (if any).
I had always thought I would just stick with HTC but I am not sure anymore. The fixed battery really scares me. I rely on swapping batteries in my EVO 3D often and I have chargers everywhere as it is. That is really the only thing that makes me consider Samsung.
Anyone who's had a 4G LTE for a while now wish they got a GSIII? How is having a fixed battery?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No remorse at all love the phone fixed battery is not a issue as most users are averaging 15 hrs a charge
Sent from the depths of hell
There are quite a few people who feel remorse over the multitasking issue, where even with most custom ROMs you'll still have the problem that the phone does not multitask properly. This is fixed with AOSP ROMs and I'm sure there will eventually be a legitimate fix for the problem on Sense, but as of now it's something that people have to put up with. I never really noticed it or was bothered by it, but a lot of people here are upset by it so I would keep that in mind.
Buy the Galaxy S III, then trade with me. My EVO LTE is superb. Kept in an Otterbox all of its life.
my only remorse is that they ran out of blacks and i got stuck with the white......oh well
Keyz450 said:
my only remorse is that they ran out of blacks and i got stuck with the white......oh well
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Id prefer white actually. Why do you say that?
Keyz450 said:
my only remorse is that they ran out of blacks and i got stuck with the white......oh well
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Trade you black for white as long as your soff like me lol
Sent from the depths of hell
Alpine- said:
Anyone who's had a 4G LTE for a while now wish they got a GSIII?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Got mine in the pre-order. No regrets whatsoever
Alpine- said:
How is having a fixed battery?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Never been an issue for me, and many others here and in other forums. As you know, battery life is highly dependant on your particular useage and can vary greatly from person to person.
There are many EVO vs GS3 type threads, but it basically comes down to personal preference. But don't let someone try to BS you into thinking the GS3 is "faster" because it has 2 GBs, lol.
I love the EVO LTE but I have s-off which was Important to me. The current hboots don't have it at the moment.
If that's important to you I'd go with the s3. Or wait for the new nexus which will probably have s3 specs but be straight aosp and guaranteed key lime pie next year.
I am assuming that the trend will continue where the Nexus phone has similar specs to the previous Galaxy S version.
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using xda app-developers app
NaterTots said:
I love the EVO LTE but I have s-off which was Important to me. The current hboots don't have it at the moment.
If that's important to you I'd go with the s3. Or wait for the new nexus which will probably have s3 specs but be straight aosp and guaranteed key lime pie next year.
I am assuming that the trend will continue where the Nexus phone has similar specs to the previous Galaxy S version.
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
But what is the ETA for the "new Nexus," particularly on Sprint?
A little.
The phone is nice, but it has issues. This is the first HTC phone I've been disappointed with...everyone else hated the 3D but I enjoyed that phone.
The muliti tasking, Wifi constantly dropping, sense weather widget constantly showing thunderstorms, the way Sense is still bloated and laggy at times...that and the useless HTC Hub never offering anything new, or widgets that should be common. I'm just starting to grow tired of it all honestly.
A lot of the problem can be fixed with AOSP roms, but then you lose the one real thing that made this phone, the badass Sense camera we have. I wouldn't say I'm anti Htc or anti Evo LTE..but I am disappointed.
Alpine- said:
But what is the ETA for the "new Nexus," particularly on Sprint?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think it will be closer to when Verizon releases their phone. The last 1 was released in December for them. And I think the Nexus S was released in November of 2010.
So I think by the time your upgrade comes around in the middle of November you will know what's going to happen with the next Nexus phone.
Pure speculation of course.
Naters
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using xda app-developers app
I have a little remorse. Had an SGIII for about 2 - 3 days, bricked it and got an Evo LTE. It did seem a little faster operating the SGIII, the screen seemed a tad bit bigger, and I kinda miss the little touchwiz "shortcuts." But the Evo feels more sturdy and I had to have the kickstand. As of right now, the SGIII is easier to root but I found Fox fi for my tethering fix and I'll play with some of these launchers on the market til a new root for the Evo comes out.
Sent from my EVO using xda app-developers app
TBH, a lot of what I heard supports SGIII.
Get it, dont worry about unlocking/rooting. Slap a AOSP Rom on or go with TouchWhiz (which people tend to be liking more than Sense it seems). Then also have the option of swapping an extra battery if you so desire. I dont know, this thread just gave me more questions. I feel even more on the fence.
I do appreciate all the HONEST feedback though. This is exactly what I wanted. TBH, I may just keep the EVO 3D a little longer than anticipated and see how things play out. I dont need the extra CPU power necessarily and I wont be gaining LTE. My 3VO is just how I like it now too...
Alpine- said:
TBH, a lot of what I heard supports SGIII.
Get it, dont worry about unlocking/rooting. Slap a AOSP Rom on or go with TouchWhiz (which people tend to be liking more than Sense it seems). Then also have the option of swapping an extra battery if you so desire. I dont know, this thread just gave me more questions. I feel even more on the fence.
I do appreciate all the HONEST feedback though. This is exactly what I wanted. TBH, I may just keep the EVO 3D a little longer than anticipated and see how things play out. I dont need the extra CPU power necessarily and I wont be gaining LTE. My 3VO is just how I like it now too...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's what I would do, just hang on to what you have and see what's coming out
Sent from my EVO using xda premium
Nope, would not even come close to considering a S3. Fixed battery is not even close to being any issue at all. Love this phone.
Sent from my EVO 4g/LTE using xda premium
Loved my rooted
S-off EVO, if I was to pick one up lately without S-off then i don't think I'll love it as much. Right now I have one upgrade available, my choice right now is wait for the iPhone 5, yes that's right. Been a long time android but absolutely loved my jailbreak iPad 3, so I know my next upgrade will be the latest iPhone.
Sent from my PC36100 using xda premium
theoner1 said:
Loved my rooted
S-off EVO, if I was to pick one up lately without S-off then i don't think I'll love it as much. Right now I have one upgrade available, my choice right now is wait for the iPhone 5, yes that's right. Been a long time android but absolutely loved my jailbreak iPad 3, so I know my next upgrade will be the latest iPhone.
Sent from my PC36100 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What is this treachery!? You should be tarred and feathered, good sir!
Lol at getting the iPhone.
No buyers remorse here. Love my s-off ltevo. The galaxy s3 was not even on my top list for upgrades. Screw that
Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2
I am S-ON evo, but I don't mind it, just got to be a little bit more careful and certain things take more steps. And sooner or later, there will most likely be more S-On peeps anyways, so even more support for them...
I've been doing a lot of research on both devices over the past few days since I'm out of work and have nothing better to do than apply for jobs and figure out which phone I'm going to get when it comes out. Super lame but there isn't much else to do when your back is shot to hell.
Anyway... It looks to me as if the GS4's mission is to drag other customers to Samsung. For example: steal HTC lovers and convince them to make the switch over to Samsung. I see this because GS4 is pushing FEATURES and things that, for example, the HTC One does not have. But that doesn't make the GS4 'better' than the HTC One. At least... not to me.
The HUGE difference is that the HTC One does NOT have the MicroSD card slot. I don't agree with that but yet it might be a good idea to finally move to cloud storage and get used to it? Either way, I came to the realization that the non-existent MicroSD card slot should not be a deal-breaker of any kind. Especially since you can grab a 32gb MSD for only $20 if you look in the right direction. So, if you think about it, there IS plenty of storage but it won't all be physically present. Kind of cool if you think about it.
Another HUGE difference is that the HTC One will not have an option for battery replacement, extended batteries, or anything alike. I believe that was to boost sales towards accessories and have everyone else (carriers and company's) jump on the same bandwagon. That's because there are now battery packs you can buy to carry around and charge your phone if you really need to. I think that's pretty awesome but I like the idea of carrying an actual backup battery with me instead of charging on the run.
BUT! That sexy casing sure as hell makes up for both of those "HUGE" or "don't really care" differences.
As for screen differences... who can tell which is better on such a small screen? Sure, if you know it just happens to have better specs than you can call it "better" or even "the best" but if the human eye can't even detect the difference than it really doesn't matter.
BUT! You better believe your eyes when you see the battery consumption suddenly plummet.
So why desire those better screen specs, that you won't even notice, and get less battery life? My guess is that you wouldn't...
So why desire all of those features that you will use, much like the rare 3D on few phones, but probably for about a month until you realize they are just a waste of space and a marketing scheme? My guess is that you wouldn't...
So why switch over to the Galaxy S4 of which you will be happy with for a while before you realize your regret on not purchasing the HTC One which is also released earlier so you could've been satisfied even earlier and not made ANY mistakes? My guess is that you wouldn't...
I've come to the conclusion that the S4 vs. One is all about personal preference and the battle becomes a draw. Specs are pretty much the same depending on where you live, what carrier you have, and your own personal wish-list. Samsung did one hell of a job marketing a phone that hasn't had an official release date yet though! It had me wondering which phone I really want. The octacore sounds great but think about how new that technology is, how it make work, if it really is worth it, and that it is just a new idea to processing in *hopes* that it'll provide a little bit more power and better memory management.
I could go on and on about all of the differences, marketing schemes, etc... But I want to see what everyone else is saying (typing) since I don't have THAT MUCH time to spend reading every little detail on the two phones.
What do you guys/gals think?
Which phone do you plan on purchasing if at all?
And why?
I'm aiming towards the HTC One.
Could've sworn I put this in the question section... Can someone move this please? Thanks.
I never needed to replace my battery on the Evo 3D, and I'm still using the same 16 GB card that I had in it. I doubt I'd miss either omission.
Neither, Nexus 5
Sent from my EVO 4G LTE using xda app-developers app
DB13 said:
Neither, Nexus 5
Sent from my EVO 4G LTE using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Which, unfortunately and historically, will be completely obsolete just a month or two after it comes.
http://anandtech.com/show/6747/htc-one-review
The most comprehensive review/analysis of the HTC One to date. If you want to know EVERYTHING about the One just have a read. Highest award ever given to a smartphone by them. That pretty much certifies it as LEGIT.
I say wait... None of the next gen are really pummeling the current gen flagships.
If I had to choose this year, the SGS 4 under contract or the Dev edition HTC One, off contract.
The one. Sense 5 is great and I'm really liking the dual speakers. I love Samsung Tvs but nor their phones. I could care less about a removable battery or the microsd card slot.
Sent from my EVO One
fr0st420 said:
The one. Sense 5 is great and I'm really liking the dual speakers. I love Samsung Tvs but nor their phones. I could care less about a removable battery or the microsd card slot.
Sent from my EVO One
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Same here, having stuck with HTC since the Hero, I'm really leaning towards the One.
I'm still undecided. I really hate AMOLED screens.. They have some sort of tint compared to LCD. And i hate that Samsung phones feel cheap and light.
The build of the HTC One is awesome but I alway have cases on my phone. I'm super clumsy.. I drop my phone about twice a week... No joke. I've never had to get a new battery for an HTC phone. SD card slot shouldn't be a problem if I can get 32gb. I've never taken out the memory card out my EVOLTE.
As far as HTC.. I feel they are more of a hassle to root than Samsung. So that is making me want to switch to Samsung. But then again, I've used Sense for 5yrs now and like it.. It's gonna suck to switch.
The things that are most important to me are battery life, screen quality and performance. I'm sure as far as performance there won't be any "real life" differences.
I'm on Sprint and one of those will be my next phone. The possibility of updated Sprint Nexus is also on my mind.. Although farfetched.
Sent from my EVO using xda app-developers app
I think I am gonna go with s4. I freakin love sense and the build quality of my HTC phones bit I have to say the HTC tends to have more connectivity issues as far as what I have seen.
I can tell u my EVO LTE is pretty inconsistent when it comes to signal and connecting. I don't think it is entirely the network either because even at the house on WiFi my connection seems to hang quite often at the same time I have problems I pick up my tablet which runs off the same WiFi and it runs just fine.
Another reason is Samsung galaxy has such a big following if I try the s4 and don't like it it will be much easier to find me a person willing to swap their HTC for my galaxy rather than the other way around. I doubt anyone will trade my HTC one for a galaxy if I have the same frustrating issues with it.
The freakin black HTC one is one of the sexiest, nice looking phones I have seen in a while though so who knows. My family plan will be out of contract on all 3 lines at the end of the year so I'm not renewing this quarter I will have plenty of time to make a decision. I don't know that I am going to be staying with sprint.
Sent from my EVO using xda app-developers app
Very interesting posts guys/gals. I appreciate all of the responses. I've been with HTC for quite a while as well. My first was the HTC Hero which, in my opinion, was one of the worst smartphones ever made. Then I went with the EVO 3D which treated me very well up until needing a replacement. I went through 8 of those phones and each replacement was worse than the previous. My batteries started getting shot, my phone would turn off randomly and never come back on, and the digitizer constantly went out. I would've been on my 9th until I decided to grab the LTE. I've only had one issue with this phone which was the service cutting out and never coming back on. I then got it replaced for free so no complaints.
The build of the LTE I think is very poor. Out of the box there was already cosmetic damage and I refuse to use cases since I never drop my phone's anymore. *knock on forum* I'm just having a really hard time deciding what I want to do. I'll probably end up with the HTC One but it'd be nice to switch it up too.
But making the switch either leaves me satisfied for two years or in deep regret for two years.
This is a tough one. The only reason I wanted the S3 was for 1 more gig of RAM. But with both of the new phones sporting quad-core and 2gb of RAM then I almost might as well stick with HTC.
Ugh. Decisions... Decisions...
... Sent from my 'Oops! Should've bought the S3!' via XDA-Developers App.
which ever 1 that have micro SD....im not losing my 64gb:laugh:
I heard that the battery life on the S4 is not good, anybody else hear this?
Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2
It's kind of early to judge battery life since the test phones are all pre- production. Many times software will fix things.
I've been really happy with the lte but may wait and see what the next nexus service is and then decide if I'll stay with sprint.
The htc one has received better results in the rf testing than the lte did. So that is encouraging. Should mean better connections for calls and data.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda app-developers app
I will be going with the One.
Personally, after being on Sense, I feel like TouchWiz (Samsung's Sense) is designed for children who still need to ask their parents permission for playdates. Totally ugly and way too colorful.
Also, after using Sense 5, I don't ever want to use another OS. It is incredibly enjoyable.
Now think about if we had all the One X and Evo devs working together - I can't imagine anyone would need more options than that.
I am getting a One before May because I am so impressed with Sense on my EVO and I love HTC.
One
randp1 said:
I heard that the battery life on the S4 is not good, anybody else hear this?
Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah. Saw that a bit ago. The One only beat it in one category though. However, the differences are that big either. But both of the phones don't have the best battery life.
... Sent from my 'Maybe the LTEvo wasn't such a bad idea afterall,' using the XDA Developers app.
One... Htc phone make and quality looks superb. Not to mention they change hardware and look so much that it really is a new phone. Unless you want the s3 with a faster processor...(hint s4)
Don't get me wrong. The software features are cool and all but sense widgets give you a reason to have multiple home screens.
Just my 2 cents....
Sent from my EVO using xda premium
144saint said:
One... Htc phone make and quality looks superb. Not to mention they change hardware and look so much that it really is a new phone. Unless you want the s3 with a faster processor...(hint s4)
Don't get me wrong. The software features are cool and all but sense widgets give you a reason to have multiple home screens.
Just my 2 cents....
Sent from my EVO using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's pretty much it with the S4. Idk why they didn't change anything with the body. I know there were talks of an S4 mini but... Eh. Maybe the Note 3 is going to be more impressive? I just don't get it. All of the EVO's were different. Even the newest One =P I wish they would've stuck with the EVO name though. Assuming the EVO is pretty much done. The HTC One would've made a great EVO. But whatever. Now when people ask what kind of phone I have I'll say "that One phone." Soft humor.
... Sent from my 'Maybe the LTEvo wasn't such a bad idea afterall,' using the XDA Developers app.
Delakit said:
I wish they would've stuck with the EVO name though. Assuming the EVO is pretty much done. The HTC One would've made a great EVO. But whatever. Now when people ask what kind of phone I have I'll say "that One phone." Soft humor.
... Sent from my 'Maybe the LTEvo wasn't such a bad idea afterall,' using the XDA Developers app.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's the best part.
"what phone do you have?"
THERE IS ONLY "ONE" WORTH IT!
HAHAA!!! WOOOOOO! :thumbup:
Sent from my EVO using xda premium