Hey guys
I'm flashing the stock ICS firmware on my friend's S II, along with rooting it, and flashing CM9.
I did a search for ICS bootloader, and a lot of threads came up, but I'm just creating my own thread for my own specific questions.
- "Make sure you're running ICS bootloaders lower than LPH! (if you're unsure, flash the CM9 Resurrection Edition)"
That's from the CM9 Discussion thread in the General Section
First off, how do I determine which bootloader the phone is using? Second, how do I determine if the phone is running a bootloader higher than LPH? And if it is, from where do I install a lower bootloader and how do I flash it
I know the CM9 Resurrection Edition basically does everything for you, even if you have a bootloader higher than LPH, but its using PC Odin correct? And thats going to increase the binary counter, which I don't want. And Chainfire's triangleaway app does not work with cm9 yet.
Sorry for the questions, I'm using a Galaxy Note, and it seems like its just more straight forward than the S II, and don't really have that much time to go through the entire S II forum
and don't really have that much time to go through the entire S II forum
Agree 100% i dont have the time to search or read for you either or even ask in the CM threads .
jje
To flash a bootloader you have to use odin ...
FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS (CM9)
Should I flash the bootloader ?
You don't need to. There are currently no reports of issues having not flashed the bootloader. However, if you flash the ICS bootloaders, you can't reset the download count with a JIG any more.
JJEgan said:
and don't really have that much time to go through the entire S II forum
Agree 100% i dont have the time to search or read for you either or even ask in the CM threads .
jje
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You don't need to give snide remarks man. This site is for helping people out. I didn't ask you or anyone to search or read for me. I asked people who are already knowledgeable about your phone that can help me out without having to go through the entire forum. And no offense to the mods, but this forum seems very messy and unorganized. If you read my entire post, and in the beginning I said I made a search, but I need to make my own thread about my own way of asking specific questions.
Thanks anyways S II forum, I've already figured it out on my own.
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Short answer
Doesn't matter what boot loader you are on
Triangle away works in cm9
Flash a ics boot loader before trying triangle away.
If you see serial in phone about status you are on ics boot loader.
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Hi,
I recently upgraded to this device from the EVO3D. I have a question with regards to rooting.
With the EVO, every time there was a major OTA update, there were always firmware/radio updates to flash through the bootloader with fastboot in addition to the ROM base itself.
Does this exist with Samsung phones or is everything contained within the ROM package itself? I have a phone with 2.3.4 and was going to try a 2.3.6 ROM but didn't want to leave any important updates behind.
I have read through all the stickies and page through the general as well as the Q& A section and did not see it addressed.
Thanks for the help.
Obviously anyone who wants to chime in is more than welcome.
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jpreichart said:
Hi,
I recently upgraded to this device from the EVO3D. I have a question with regards to rooting.
With the EVO, every time there was a major OTA update, there were always firmware/radio updates to flash through the bootloader with fastboot in addition to the ROM base itself.
Does this exist with Samsung phones or is everything contained within the ROM package itself? I have a phone with 2.3.4 and was going to try a 2.3.6 ROM but didn't want to leave any important updates behind.
I have read through all the stickies and page through the general as well as the Q& A section and did not see it addressed.
Thanks for the help.
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Basically, anything is independently flashable. Sometimes there will be interdependencies between components, but not usually.
1) Right now there is NO reason to ever flash bootloaders - avoid it. Any CWM-flashable firmware in these forums does not include BLs. (This may change with ICS.)
2) Don't flash anything with a .PIT in Odin - it'll hose your device.
3) You can mix and match any radio firmware with any system firmware. (At least for Gingerbread. ICS is an unknown.) It's not like many HTC devices, where the radio acted as a bootloader for the applications processor - on Samsungs, the AP bootloads the modem.
4) Older kernels can cause problems with newer firmwares. My latest releases should work with any Gingerbread firmware other than AOSP/CM7.
Thank you. I am a forever Noob.
With HTC the updates were always stripped of any bootloader updates to remain s-off. The remainder was always flashed through recovery or fastboot. I am trying to understand this wotld a little more. I have become very afraid of bootloaders from my time there.
I would assume the good people here will help guys like me if things change with ICS?
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jpreichart said:
Thank you. I am a forever Noob.
With HTC the updates were always stripped of any bootloader updates to remain s-off. The remainder was always flashed through recovery or fastboot. I am trying to understand this wotld a little more. I have become very afraid of bootloaders from my time there.
I would assume the good people here will help guys like me if things change with ICS?
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Yup. Any ICS update should contain clear instructions on if the bootloader situation changes. (Right now, there's no evidence of this.)
It is my opinion that anyone who provides a bootloader flash should always do it separately and make it clear under what circumstances the user should flash the BLs.
In general, be careful about flashing factory-originated firmware updates as these can include bootloaders. Almost anything here won't. (However, the first UCKK6 leaks did... Next time an I777 leak shows up we know how to remove the BLs though.)
One last question. You have been very helpful. If i use your kernel to get CWM onto the phone to avoid the flash counter, it will play nice with stock rooted 2.3.4?
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Thank you. I am a forever Noob.
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This is by choice. Just by spending a little time reading the FAQ, looking through the stickies and perusing the forum in general would have probably prevented you from starting this thread. Always do a search before starting a new thread and whenever possible post to an already existing related thread rather than start a new one. No more newbie pass for you.
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This is by choice. Just by spending a little time reading the FAQ, looking through the stickies and perusing the forum in general would have probably prevented you from starting this thread. Always do a search before starting a new thread and whenever possible post to an already existing related thread rather than start a new one. No more newbie pass for you.
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I mentioned above that I have / had searched. I did not find the same question asked. If I missed it, I apologize. It took me a few days to get the courage to post. I did not want to start a discussion and get 5 responses like yours (it seems that is the most common response people get when they ask questions).
Sometimes you have to ask a question in a way that makes sense to you to understand the answer. Otherwise what is the point of a Q& A section?
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jpreichart said:
One last question. You have been very helpful. If i use your kernel to get CWM onto the phone to avoid the flash counter, it will play nice with stock rooted 2.3.4?
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Yes, it should. You'll need to root your phone to install my kernel without the counter - either SuperOneClick (works for UCKH7) or my prerooted system image (flashing custom system images doesn't trigger the counter)
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Sometimes you have to ask a question in a way that makes sense to you to understand the answer. Otherwise what is the point of a Q& A section?
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It certianly isn't to ask questions that can be answered with an investment in time and reading or that have been asked and asnwered already.
Here's a tip I and others give newbies looking for answers: During the initial period of looking/searching/reading, do NOT use your phone. Use a PC so you can see full pages and it will be easier to gather information. Tapatalk or the XDA app should be limited to making replies or casual reading of the forum, not as a way to research these often complex subjects.
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It certianly isn't to ask questions that can be answered with an investment in time and reading or that have been asked and asnwered already.
Here's a tip I and others give newbies looking for answers: During the initial period of looking/searching/reading, do NOT use your phone. Use a PC so you can see full pages and it will be easier to gather information. Tapatalk or the XDA app should be limited to making replies or casual reading of the forum, not as a way to research these often complex subjects.
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I agree with you. For what it's worth, I did search using a desktop. Just typing on my phone. I can't put it down!
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ok well this is my first time trying to put install a custom rom on my phone but i just have a few questions. i have read all the stickies already but just need a little clarification. i havent quite decided on a rom yet but i know i want to try the siyah kernel. Do i install it through mobile odin?? and then do i do the same for the rom on my choosing?? im already rooted. and depending on the rom i choose, do i have to be on a specific firmware like on 2.3.4 or 2.3.6?? do i have to flash using mobile odin or cwm. i dont want to trip the flash counter. and last question i think, how do i get cwm, or is it already in the phone
First, please use more descriptive thread titles so people that actually search can find relevant info. This title is useless.
Second, all you asked about is covered in the FAQ and various stickies. You obviously did not read the one about not tripping the counter or you wouldn't have asked. CWM is included in almost every custom ROM and kernel. Reading would have told you that. I suggest you go back, read and forget flashing until you completely understand what you are doing. We are not here to bail you out of mistakes you make from not reading and understanding.
thats exactly why im asking. before i make a mistake
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thats exactly why im asking. before i make a mistake
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Don't ask, read. This is a self-service forum, not the Help Desk. No one in here is paid to give answers, that's why you need to find them for yourself and only ask when it is absolutely necessary. At this point, for you, it isn't as the answers are already here if you take the time to look.
then there wouldnt be a q&a section in the forum.
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then there wouldnt be a q&a section in the forum.
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The existence of Q&A does not relieve you of following forum rules, which clearly state not to start new threads without first searching and reading the stickies. This is common understanding for almost all internet forums and something you agreed to when you joined XDA. Q&A is for the rare item not covered in the FAQ or stickies or found by doing a search. Your questions do not qualify.
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ok well this is my first time trying to put install a custom rom on my phone but i just have a few questions. i have read all the stickies already but just need a little clarification. i havent quite decided on a rom yet but i know i want to try the siyah kernel. Do i install it through mobile odin?? and then do i do the same for the rom on my choosing?? im already rooted. and depending on the rom i choose, do i have to be on a specific firmware like on 2.3.4 or 2.3.6?? do i have to flash using mobile odin or cwm. i dont want to trip the flash counter. and last question i think, how do i get cwm, or is it already in the phone
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Firstly you probably want a kernel with CWM. Siyah & Entropy both have that. Flash it in Odin (This you will have to look at stickies for) and you will gain root/cwm. Then choose a rom that is safe, I would say anything in the dev section that says 2.3.4-2.3.6. You don't have to match your version to the ROM. With the zip you download, enter CWM mode (look at stickies) and flashing it in there. You will now have whatever kernel they use with that ROM.
Want more info? Look in the stickies
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The existence of Q&A does not relieve you of following forum rules, which clearly state not to start new threads without first searching and reading the stickies. This is common understanding for almost all internet forums and something you agreed to when you joined XDA. Q&A is for the rare item not covered in the FAQ or stickies or found by doing a search. Your questions do not qualify.
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I believe this thread has run its course....
As stated.. you can post in boards, but you only should do so AFTER searching/reading existing posts to see if your question is answered. There is no reason to make a whole new thread when there are plenty of guides and stickies out there with great info...
Just rooted my Samsung Galaxy S2 AT&T with the Zedomax Kernel and it also flashed Clockworkmod recovery. Everything went great. Can I update the recovery using rom manager? I ask this because the GS2 combines the kernel with the recovery I think and to use rom manager for anything you must flash the recovery from rom manager. Coming from HTC phones where this was never a problem. Just don't want to screw anything up.
Thanks for any help,
Vinny
vinnyjr said:
Just rooted my Samsung Galaxy S2 AT&T with the Zedomax Kernel and it also flashed Clockworkmod recovery. Everything went great. Can I update the recovery using rom manager? I ask this because the GS2 combines the kernel with the recovery I think and to use rom manager for anything you must flash the recovery from rom manager. Coming from HTC phones where this was never a problem. Just don't want to screw anything up.
Thanks for any help,
Vinny
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The forum has been changed radically in the past couple of days, and I'm not sure if this is still evident to new users, but it used to be plastered all over the forum. DO NOT USE ROM MANAGER WITH THIS PHONE.
In particular, you can not install ClockworkMod Recovery from Rom Manager, as it will not work. You must use a ClockworkMod Recovery that is integrated into the kernel. I would suggest that you flash Entropy512's Daily Driver kernel.
It still is plastered.. why don't new people follow the etiquette of any one new to anything that they should read the FAQs!
As you can see by the amount of posts and years I have been a paid member I am no rookie. As for reading before asking, I did. I even went to the search section and asked without any luck so being a long time paid member I thought I could ask without getting my ass chewed out. If you see by my question I already flashed a kernel with CWmod recovery. I asked if I could use Rom Manager to update the Kernel.
Thanks for the help.
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As you can see by the amount of posts and years I have been a paid member I am no rookie. As for reading before asking, I did. I even went to the search section and asked without any luck so being a long time paid member I thought I could ask without getting my ass chewed out. If you see by my question I already flashed a kernel with CWmod recovery. I asked if I could use Rom Manager to update the Kernel.
Thanks for the help.
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To be honest, I didn't even look over in the left column to see your post count before I posted my answer. (I usually do.) However, from the way you worded your question, it is obvious that you are new to this phone and the I-777 forums, even though you are not new to XDA. Over the previous months, there have been a large number of questions asked that are already answered if the person had just read a little first. And your question about ROM Manager, in one form or another, has been one of the chief offenders. You say, "As for reading before asking, I did." But go to the sticky post in this forum, (or the one in the General forum or the similar one in the development forum as they're all about the same) and click on the link that says FAQ topic. You'll see what I meant in my previous post.
Don't get bent out of shape over this. You're an experienced member who can pitch in and help other folks out, so when you come around the forums, do that. The moderators are just asking us all to be responsible.
As mentioned before do not use room manager to flash roms kernels or whatever.you can use it to download different roms but even those can be corrupted or not finished a many users saw with the CM9 build that was posted there.
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As you can see by the amount of posts and years I have been a paid member I am no rookie.
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Nevertheless, had you read the main (and now only) sticky in here or in General, you would know not to use RomManager on this phone and would not have had to ask.
And with that, topic closed.
Search more people... please! Use Google, use XDA.. but SEARCH. REad the FAQ's before posting.. it is FORUM RULES.
so i just got a i777 whit uckh7 and its rooted cause im able to use root apps ... but i want to update to ics .. so install kies on my pc .... and the kies app saids that my phone dosent support upgrade via kies ... is there any other way to do it or how kan i flash some kind of recovery to flash ics roms ( sorry my bad writting but im learning the lenguage )
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so i just got a i777 whit uckh7 and its rooted cause im able to use root apps ... but i want to update to ics .. so install kies on my pc .... and the kies app saids that my phone dosent support upgrade via kies ... is there any other way to do it or how kan i flash some kind of recovery to flash ics roms ( sorry my bad writting but im learning the lenguage )
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Need MOAR reading!!!
Do not upgrade via kies. It will give you at&t's version of ics which contains the emmc bug that places your phone at risk of being bricked if you need to do a factory reset/wipe. Since you are already rooted you can just go straight to any of the great ics roms on the development forum.
In terms of how to get there, i agree with the previous poster, you have lots of reading to do. Start with the stickies in the forum. In particular, this thread by creepyncrawly is a great place to start reading:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1311081
Don't flash until you have read thoroughly and really understand what you are about to do.
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Do not upgrade via kies. It will give you at&t's version of ics which contains the emmc bug that places your phone at risk of being bricked if you need to do a factory reset/wipe. Since you are already rooted you can just go straight to any of the great ics roms on the development forum.
In terms of how to get there, i agree with the previous poster, you have lots of reading to do. Start with the stickies in the forum. In particular, this thread by creepyncrawly is a great place to start reading:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1311081
Don't flash until you have read thoroughly and really understand what you are about to do.
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tnkx ....
To the op---there is no reason to post a new thread about this. Countless have already been made. Use the search function and Google with your search followed by "i777 xda" in the search string, for future reference.
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Hey,
So I upgraded my Samsung Galaxy S II I9100 to ICS 4.0.4 before 1-2 months. The new graphics and extra features looked really great at first, but 2 hours after using it on normal applications (Facebook, YouTube, Twitter.) It froze and did nothing, like literally just freezes at the screen it lagged on. This has been happening continuously for the past 2 months and I'm really sick of it, I upgraded my phone and my dad's one (both SGS2I9100) using Samsung Kies, ever since that, it just keeps freezing like 4 times a day and I have to take off my battery and re-put it so it can reset since nothing will do this.. The old the firmware I had was the really amazingly going well and never lagged even once (I can't remember which firmware though). I'm a total noob, I didn't and don't have my phone rooted or some stuff like that, expect downloading APKs off the internet lol.
I really want someone to help me in this, I know there must be a solution since I don't think I'm the only one who has been annoyed by this, specially when it happens on a daily routine. I searched over the forums and found nothing. I know there must be something talking about the issue but I'm too nooby to understand the article titles which might be a solution of my problem.
Please help me in my problem it really bothers me and xda is my last hope...
Thank you all.
Note: please use simple terms because I really won't understand, and if you do, please teach me them lol.
Well, first of all your up for some reading.
While you go from thread to thread you'll run into the world of ROMs and flashing.
The first thing you have to know is that your device comes with 4 things:
1) Hardware (dah)
2) Kernel (link between Hardware & OS)
3) ROM (OS)
4) Modem (Baseband for your country / Region)
You are actually on 4.0.4, It's Kernel is known to suffer the brick bug issue.
Flashing is used to get the best from your device, in relation to your personal user experience. You got plenty of options like Stock Roms and Custom Roms, as well as Stock Kernels and custom kernels.
When flashing stock roms you get the chance to get rid of your carrier stuff (bloatware and animation boot) by getting an unbranded ROM (samsung official stock rom), you can either go down to previous versions (Gingerbread, ICS 4.0.3) or even go up (Jelly bean leaked ROM). Carrier branded or not, it's just a matter of choice.
When flashing custom roms you get a whole lot of roms to choose from. The most common are CyanogenMod (CM), RR (revolution remix), Omega and etcetera. These roms take the best of the stock roms and leave the worst, so you'll get a more personalized experience.
When Flashing custom kernels your trying to get the best performance for your ROM, this means you can use a stock ROM with a custom kernel.
Modems are basebands that let your carrier network function in your region / country, so if you flash a modem, your network might not work, so you'll have to flash another modem and so on.
Check all that out and if you decide to go on flashing, we are here to help you on the easiest / safest way to do it.
rembember to read and re-read all first.
you did notice this is now your official post right?
Okay I kinda get it, can you kindly please send me links that will help my problem? I'd rather downgrade with Stock ROM than a costum one.
Another thing, will it affect anything that has to do with my Carier? and does my phone have to be rooted in order this to work? If so how can I?
Many thanks.
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try sammobile.com
they have plenty of stock roms.
I'd personally advice you to get 4.0.3 stock ROM. What's you carrier? I could look it up for you while you learn about flashing/downgrade.
That's what I was thinking of too, and it's Orange IL (Israel)
I need you you to tell me how do it too please
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The best option for you is to get Mobile Odin Pro, got 5 bucks to spare in google play?
After installing that, what should I do?
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OmarDaoudi said:
After installing that, what should I do?
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here, download the official ROM of your choice (you can type ctrl + f and search orange):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1113928
Remember, 4.0.3 is the best option for you.
OmarDaoudi said:
After installing that, what should I do?
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You really should start reading. The people who posted above didn't get all the knowledge by inventing it by themselves, but through searching, reading and trying to follow rhe guides. Search for the threads that are made for people like you who are quite new to this
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You really should start reading. The people who posted above didn't get all the knowledge by inventing it by themselves, but through searching, reading and trying to follow rhe guides. Search for the threads that are made for people like you who are quite new to this
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I'm goin' clubbin in a couple of hours, he'll have to
gastonw said:
I'm goin' clubbin in a couple of hours, he'll have to
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Priorities man Wouldn't you rather be on xda instead of dancing in a club?^^
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werewolves can't type, everybody knows that!
Donnie Sins said:
You really should start reading. The people who posted above didn't get all the knowledge by inventing it by themselves, but through searching, reading and trying to follow rhe guides. Search for the threads that are made for people like you who are quite new to this
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There are 2 types of people: those who do not like to read and the rest who like. Then those who like may not understand. Now, those who do not read and those who read but don't understand actually contribute 99% of the posts in every forums you visit.
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There are 2 types of people: those who do not like to read and the rest who like. Then those who like may not understand. Now, those who do not read and those who read but don't understand actually contribute 99% of the posts in every forums you visit.
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When the guy doesn't read it was a good advice to start doing it, because it's not really allowed to ask everything that is allready asked so many times.
When he actually does read, but doesn't understand (which I don't think because he's asking basic question about steps he must take) then it's maybe better to rethink if he's really going to flash something because he doesn't know what he's doing
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Okay, so I did some reading and figured out that I needed to root my phone, I'm on this thread which was recommended by many people http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1501719 . Am I doing it the right thing? since I want to downgrade to stock 4.0.3?
Second question, I downloaded the CWM zip and extractred the CWM file on SDCARD, it says reboot to recovery, how can I do that?
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Okay, so I did some reading and figured out that I needed to root my phone, I'm on this thread which was recommended by many people http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1501719 . Am I doing it the right thing? since I want to downgrade to stock 4.0.3?
Second question, I downloaded the CWM zip and extractred the CWM file on SDCARD, it says reboot to recovery, how can I do that?
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Why don't you just flash a stock rom through Odin? No offence but I'm serious, the lack of knowledge you show here by asking about Recovery to me seems to be a sign you shouldn't root it at all, and learn a whole lot more about flashing and more if you want to.
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Why don't you just flash a stock rom through Odin? No offence but I'm serious, the lack of knowledge you show here by asking about Recovery to me seems to be a sign you shouldn't root it at all, and learn a whole lot more about flashing and more if you want to.
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I managed to root my phone, I have SuperSU,CWM now on my phone, sorry for the stupid questions did more readings, my goal now is to downgrade to stock 4.0.3, how can I do that?
OmarDaoudi said:
I managed to root my phone, I have SuperSU,CWM now on my phone, sorry for the stupid questions did more readings, my goal now is to downgrade to stock 4.0.3, how can I do that?
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These all aren't stupid questions, because everybody had to go through them the first time. It's just that all the questions have allready been answered here on xda, so that's why you've been told to search and read for yourself.
Here's an article that can be helpfull:
http://www.jayceooi.com/2011/08/08/how-to-install-firmware-on-samsung-galaxy-s2-with-odin-video/
If you don't fully understand it, please look into the guides in the S2 section.
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Thanks all for your help! I managed to successfully downgrade my SGS2 from 4.0.4 to 4.0.3 after your guys helps, I should have read in the first place which I did after you guys gave me the headlines of what to do!
Now I think I'm and advanced noobie.
Thanks a lot again! :laugh: