Looking at the back of the phone, the camera looks like it sticks out more then sgs1 and 2. Do you think there camera'bump' or worse still the camera lens will get scratched when lying it on its back?
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From my experience this is inevitable. On my HTC Desire it is quite badly scratched up. The good thing is, that the part that gets scratched up is only the transparent plastic on the back cover, which can be replaced easily.
Don't know about the One X though. Its camera juts out too. I was planning to buy that but didn't because of the non removable back..
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is the s3 lens sticking out more than s2? some images pls
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Scratches on a lens are generally hardly noticeable, if at all, in pictures, though more so if you're shooting f11 onwards. Obviously a mega gouge would show but I don't think there's too much to worry about. It's the condition of the sensor that really matters.
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The camera lens would be placed a bit inside the silver frame, so it should be safe hopefully
Isadora said:
Scratches on a lens are generally hardly noticeable, if at all, in pictures, though more so if you're shooting f11 onwards. Obviously a mega gouge would show but I don't think there's too much to worry about. It's the condition of the sensor that really matters.
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Most people who have had a phone where the glass/plastic lens cover lies against a table when the phone is resting on its back, find that camera images get much more blurry after a few weeks. Many HTC Desire users ended up punching out the plastic cover with a pen, and when you see before and after pictures, the improvement is really noticeable.
The manufacturer just needs to build in a half mm lip on the camera surround. Doesn't look like Samsung did this. The next best option is an additional case protrudes beyond the lens cover, like a gel case.
well the Desire was designed to be placed screen down, hence the lip - so it doesn't scratch the screen.
With the SGS3 packing Gorilla glass 2, I'm guessing you're meant to (or at least can..) place it screen down also...
it would be fine... trust me I have S 2 and never had any straches neither front nor the back.
I've had a chance to play around with an SIII and that was my first concern to, but there is a silver frame around the lens that protrudes slightly (about half a mm) so the camera doesn't actually touch flat surfaces.
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I've had a chance to play around with an SIII and that was my first concern to, but there is a silver frame around the lens that protrudes slightly (about half a mm) so the camera doesn't actually touch flat surfaces.
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Thanks, that's good to hear.
I always buy a case as I generally drop my phone at least once a week and my cases take the beating, I have practically shattered the plastic pieces on my case, btw the case is one of those gels with a piece of plastic in it.
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My camera lense is scratched to buggery, i had to buy a case to stop it getting worse, Bad move by Samsung IMHO,
I dont think it makes a difference with the shots though, but left to get worse and i guess it probably would eventually..
didnt you guys get the leather pouch with the phone ? samsung gave that for a reason
Obviously not to everyone
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Was wondering if anyone else is having this problem as I haven't found anything about it which is quite surprising given how annoying it is.
Basically I've found that when I don't have a screen protector covering the lens of the camera, it picks up smudges very easily from the way I hold my phone and my finger touching the lens every now and then. This causes several very very noticable "ring" type things on the pictures I take where the flash is used. I'm a bit confused that HTC didn't address this issue as it more or less ruins any pictures taken in lower light conditions.
My solution so far has been to keep using a screen protector over the lens as this doesn't create the ring effect even if i purposely keep touching the lens with my finger. Does anyone know a solution to this though? I'd really like to not have a screen protector over my lenses as it probably ever so slightly degrades picture quality.
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I've had that problem with every phone i had so far. I've just made it a habit to give the glas a quick wipe with my shirt or whatever is available unless I don't care too much how the shot actually looks.
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Do you even own an Evo 3D?
jurrasstoil said:
I've had that problem with every phone i had so far. I've just made it a habit to give the glas a quick wipe with my shirt or whatever is available unless I don't care too much how the shot actually looks.
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Maybe its where the lens is positioned making it more likely for me to touch it, but I've never noticed it on ny previous phones and certainly never to the extent it appears on this one. Doesn't look like there any other solution other than to give the lens a quick wipe.
How durable is the glass though? Can it scratch it wiped with a shirt, etc? Also, does anyone know exactly how much a screen protector deterioates the image?
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Do you even own an Evo 3D?
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fade2black101 said:
Was wondering if anyone else is having this problem as I haven't found anything about it which is quite surprising given how annoying it is.
Basically I've found that when I don't have a screen protector covering the lens of the camera, it picks up smudges very easily from the way I hold my phone and my finger touching the lens every now and then. This causes several very very noticable "ring" type things on the pictures I take where the flash is used. I'm a bit confused that HTC didn't address this issue as it more or less ruins any pictures taken in lower light conditions.
My solution so far has been to keep using a screen protector over the lens as this doesn't create the ring effect even if i purposely keep touching the lens with my finger. Does anyone know a solution to this though? I'd really like to not have a screen protector over my lenses as it probably ever so slightly degrades picture quality.
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It also scratches easy lol. Like other other guy said I clean it with my shirt.
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I've had that problem with every phone i had so far. I've just made it a habit to give the glas a quick wipe with my shirt or whatever is available unless I don't care too much how the shot actually looks.
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It also scratches easy lol. Like other other guy said I clean it with my shirt.
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Ah really?? What a ridiculous design flaw if they used a material that scratches easily considering how damm big that area is.
Well its obvious if you hold your phone with coins, keys and so. I tend to hold my phone in pocket with nothing else and since I bough my evo (early august 2011) I cant find any scratch even tiny. And yea - using shirt to clean lens is must-do before taking photo!
i have the same problems with it. but i also notice some scratches on the glass.
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Well its obvious if you hold your phone with coins, keys and so. I tend to hold my phone in pocket with nothing else and since I bough my evo (early august 2011) I cant find any scratch even tiny. And yea - using shirt to clean lens is must-do before taking photo!
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I haven't got a single scratch anywhere on the phone so far as I take very good care of it, but recently I've been wanting to use the camera without a screen protector over it. It sucks that they didn't factor in that if you make a mistake ONCE and put it in a pocket with keys or something, then it will get permanently scratched. If they insist or making a big fat area of removable glass on the back, then they should really put something like gorilla glass there. And anyway, it is still a major fail for HTC as with a screen protector on, these smudges do not create rings around the photo. It is the ****ty material they used that causes this problem.
Just to confirm though, are you saying wiping the glass with your shirt will not scratch it?
Well it would have bunch of scratches till now I use shirt to clean it everytime I take photo. Still "glass" that protects lenses isn't the same as one on front of the phone and its more likely easier to scratch - be aware of that.
Ps. I had motorbike accident just after buying phone... it was damaged a lot, and replacing "glass" parts at service is freaking expensive (especially front parts) so dont scratch it!
ok so ive used the sgp case on this thing with zagg on the front but i have noticed little hairline scratches on the rear camera which do not effect the photos at all but they worrie me can someone please either ease my mind or tell me the bad ... please and thank you
oh and i have tried the screen shield thing but messes with the camera ???? so no way
I've dropped my s2 before and had a whole thin crack go down the lens of the camera..remember its not the camera itself but the glass covering it....and I didn't notice any difference in quality in pictures or video and believe mine was probaly a lot worse..I like to take pictures...the whole mind set of believing your camera glass bothered the hell out of me....but I wouldn't worry about or let it bother you too much...as it didn't effect any quality....I hope this helps ease your mind alittle.
yea they arent visible unless i hold it at certain light in the certain spots etc but i see them and i obsess over them! my wife even yells at me but ya know that i havent noticed any pic quality! is anyone doing anything to protect the camera that i dont know???
http://www.deansphotographica.com/deans_of_idaho/old_stuff_pages/dirtylenstest/dirtylenstest.html
http://www.robandrewphoto.com/blog/tech/silly-lens-scratch-test-canon
http://kurtmunger.com/dirty_lens_articleid35.html
An more insight people I'm thinking it's normal ehh even though I baby it!!!!
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An more insight people I'm thinking it's normal ehh even though I baby it!!!!
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I freak on that too. My old Evo and Evo 3D's Otterbox cases had protectors over the cameras. I feel like I have a 5"brick of C4 handling this thing because I'm so worried about scratching it. Luckily I think it's on Ebay where you can buy a while new back with lens cover of you do mess it up
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I freak on that too. My old Evo and Evo 3D's Otterbox cases had protectors over the cameras. I feel like I have a 5"brick of C4 handling this thing because I'm so worried about scratching it. Luckily I think it's on Ebay where you can buy a while new back with lens cover of you do mess it up
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If you find the link please share it
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Housing-Bat...r-Samsung-AT-T-Galaxy-Note-i717-/150786205026
There's others too, but this is the first I saw. Note that I see it says it's in China, I'm really not sure about it, but I saw lots more reputable ones when looking for cases
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so is anyone else freaked out about scratching this camera ?? or screw it lol i dunno what else i need to do to protect ? i mean i know that they are made to be used but i babie this thing and its mint but those to me are like death only visible in certain light but still no effect to pictures that i see
I just put a piece of clear film between the camera glass and the case.
Speaking from the perspective of a photographer I can tell you that ANY aberration in the optics of a camera will have a detrimental effect on the quality of the image recorded. As light is refracted through a lens the scattering of the spectrum will cause unexpected and, often, unwanted lighting effects in the finished image. Best of all worlds... keep your lens (and protective outer casing) protected until ready for use, then remove any outer covering from the camera lens before taking photos. Then cover again until the next use.
Happy photo hunting.
hi as many note 3 users know, the plastic side frame is easy to get damaged, i have few cracks and one line just under the main power button (not sure just facial or completely crack?)
so, how easy is to change and which one i have to buy ? - im quite noob in hardware sides.
Sure you can buy one on Ebay
I have the same problem, the silver plastic bezel is very fragile.
If you search in Ebay you can found the Bezel and some of them come with tools to turn this in a complete DIY.
Actually i found all the body for this phone in ebay, so you can turn your used and damaged note 3 into a "brand new" one.
Thanks 4 the info. Where did you find it. Could you please share the link?
Thx in advance
hey guys.here is a link for the bezel replacement Bezel On EBAY
i want to tell you that it's not that easy to change it as you need to move the lcd screen from the one bezel to the other one.
there is glue between the lcd and the bezel so you need to warm it and remove it really carefully.i did the process yesterday on my note 3 and it was a pain in the a$$ so i have to tell you to be carefull before any move you re going to do.
Any link for Indian note 3?
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I considered doing this, as I was given a note 3 a while back, but the bezel is beat to hell and the screen had a minor crack. I should've replaced both at the same time, but the small crack turned into a large one and needed immediate attention It's covered by a case now anyway though, so it's not much of an issue anymore.
I dropped mine a while ago and put some pretty nasty scratches on the bezel.
I ended up sanding all the plastic chrome plating off down to the white plastic underneath.
covered the screen with electrical tape and ran a razor round the edge (so I could get to the front part)
It actually looks really good, I prefer it to the chrome.
I got a cheapo battery cover off ebay aswell in orange and it looks real good,
Its a tough job!!!
got my Note 3 as a gift from a friend who cracked it. I replaced the entire Display (along with frame)
and 3 days later I dropped it and got scratches in the frame.
so I decided to buy a frame and fix but its really a tough job.
so I got a bumper for 3$ and job done
I have installed one of those here http://www.ebay.com/itm/Thin-Aluminum-Metal-Bumper-Case-Cover-For-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-3-III-N9000-N9005/151251742076?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D31478%26meid%3D341538ef5e9d4d6da3228a5f902e8cf1%26pid%3D100033%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D151251742076
There are some more nicer ones our there, however this does the job well and the build quality is goodd too, my first one at 1,30 USD was not worth anything.
thanks i thought i saw same one for bit less than that, will browse ebay later.
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I dropped mine a while ago and put some pretty nasty scratches on the bezel.
I ended up sanding all the plastic chrome plating off down to the white plastic underneath.
covered the screen with electrical tape and ran a razor round the edge (so I could get to the front part)
It actually looks really good, I prefer it to the chrome.
I got a cheapo battery cover off ebay aswell in orange and it looks real good,
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yes i just remember i have some sand paper at home please post photo and detailed instructions... cheers
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I have installed one of those here http://www.ebay.com/itm/Thin-Alumin...id=100033&rk=1&rkt=4&mehot=pp&sd=151251742076
There are some more nicer ones our there, however this does the job well and the build quality is goodd too, my first one at 1,30 USD was not worth anything.
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Hows the reception with this frame on it? Bc in the past i bought a cheap one that folds over the original side bezel but reception dropped a lil bit.
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Hows the reception with this frame on it? Bc in the past i bought a cheap one that folds over the original side bezel but reception dropped a lil bit.
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I haven't noticed any drop in reception at all
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I haven't noticed any drop in reception at all
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because you must be either living in the area where your carrier signal is real strong/good, or you dont pay attention to little details, otherwise you're lying
I have tried handful of those and other plastic metalized/mirror painted bumpers and what not and all to one had some impact, especially those which had metalized paint/metal/aluminium back cover.
Simple speed test will tell alot when wearing the cover, or just go and keep an eye on your signal strength meter. It sure as hell affects signal.
mine Note 3 is banged up pretty bad around the bezel but instead I just figured it would be more practical getting some slim neat bumpers and call it a day. not only hiding worn and tired bezel but also protecting the screen and back camera optics to some degree
some of my past purchases that proven to be good investment:
BLACK - http://www.ebay.com/itm/371686423462
BLACK - http://www.ebay.com/itm/331859225625
http://www.ebay.com/itm/271911899853
http://www.ebay.com/itm/391289113353
http://www.ebay.com/itm/151139101488
http://www.ebay.com/itm/181701505005
http://www.ebay.com/itm/182354407036
http://www.ebay.com/itm/311580942819
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because you must be either living in the area where your carrier signal is real strong/good, or you dont pay attention to little details, otherwise you're lying
I have tried handful of those and other plastic metalized/mirror painted bumpers and what not and all to one had some impact, especially those which had metalized paint/metal/aluminium back cover.
Simple speed test will tell alot when wearing the cover, or just go and keep an eye on your signal strength meter. It sure as hell affects signal.
mine Note 3 is banged up pretty bad around the bezel but instead I just figured it would be more practical getting some slim neat bumpers and call it a day. not only hiding worn and tired bezel but also protecting the screen and back camera optics to some degree
some of my past purchases that proven to be good investment:
BLACK - http://www.ebay.com/itm/371686423462
BLACK - http://www.ebay.com/itm/331859225625
http://www.ebay.com/itm/271911899853
http://www.ebay.com/itm/391289113353
http://www.ebay.com/itm/151139101488
http://www.ebay.com/itm/181701505005
http://www.ebay.com/itm/182354407036
http://www.ebay.com/itm/311580942819
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you have a lot of cases!
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you have a lot of cases!
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little too many ... beware that those wooden cases are the coolest thing your phone can get but if you do drop your phone they crack and break apart sometimes... not always though but alot alot sooner than any plastic case would and thats a heartbreaking thing because there not exactly cheap case, but hey - how often does someones phone feels and smells like real fresh quality piece of wood? I like them wooden ones very much even if they crack and put some tax on my pocket at the end of the day its almost like your personal signature of style ... besides, its always warm to touch and zero signal interference
PS: lots more were thrown out many months ago, especially all those metalized ones, no use to me nor could I offer them to anyone I knew who had note 3 due to what they are
When my display was damaged, it got repaired, not only the glass, but the whole display including the bezel, it was 1 piece.. I guess it's very hard to replace only the bezel
I recently purchased a second hand Xperia Z2, and after about two weeks I discovered a shatter in the back. (I'm not sure when it broke because it was in a case.) Since that happened, I've had a closer look at the rear glass and I'm trying to work out whether it is original, or whether it has been replaced with a non-genuine back cover.
I've read through a number of posts discussion genuine vs non-genuine, and here is what I've noticed:
In favour of being genuine:
1. It has a SONY logo
2. The camera lens is actually a separate piece glued on to the case.
In favour of being fake:
1. The LED flash doesn't line up very well with the hole
2. There was no shatter-proof film (so far as I could tell): once the back broke, there was glass dust coming off all over the case and sharpish edges were exposed. It didn't all fall apart or anything, though.
I imagine I could tell if I actually pulled the back off, because the adhesive would probably be a giveaway. (It looks like the ones on eBay don't have the fine edge of adhesive, but rather have adhesive all over the place) but I'd rather not do that. At least, not unless I have a pretty good reason to check further.
Photo of lens/flash is attached.
Anyone have insights or thoughts? (Apart from "you're a klutz". I know that already). If you've got an XZ2 with an original back and want to post a pic of your flash alignment with the hole, I'd be curious to see it. Photos of the lens arrangement would be interesting too because my one looks a bit different to the one here - on mine the silver goes all the way to the edge, on that one it looks like the ring ends before the glued region. A lot like this one purchased from eBay.
Cheers!
(The follow-up question is: if it is a non-genuine replacement back, but I was the one to break it within a couple of weeks of getting the phone - despite it being in a cover - is it reasonable to go after the seller about it)
It seems to be a duplicate one. Its a little misaligned + the transparent glass covering the flash contains small-small rings.
The Writings part(20.7 MP...) is a little brighter than the actual. I don't know if u have used flash while taking this pic.
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It seems to be a duplicate one. Its a little misaligned + the transparent glass covering the flash contains small-small rings.
The Writings part(20.7 MP...) is a little brighter than the actual. I don't know if u have used flash while taking this pic.
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Nope, no flash, so I think you're right. Well spotted on the small rings on the flash too.
Pity it seems to be impossible to get a real 'genuine Z2 glass back' to replace it with.
I recently replaced my back with non-original parts, but mine is white color. So what I could notice, is that on original cover all of the grey text was a bit brighter. The fake part has noticeably darker text.
The silver ring around the camera looks like a fake plastic, what also seems to be the same in your case. + when I use the flashlight I can definitely see a square shape, but this one may be just in white models.
So I would say, based on your photo, 80% that it's a fake, especially when the led is badly aligned (even in my fake back panel it aligns well).
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This is 100% fake back plate, flash has no rings, plate color is too black, letters are too bright and printed on the glass and not inside the glass like on the original back plate. This is tue cheapest back plate you can get on ebay but there are good back plates that are almost identical to original Sony bp but are priced higher than 10 euro.
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Nope, no flash, so I think you're right. Well spotted on the small rings on the flash too.
Pity it seems to be impossible to get a real 'genuine Z2 glass back' to replace it with.
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i got originals here in belgium but they costs me 50€ each :/ fake ones are often quite thin and only cost 10-15€.
They break sometimes after 1 hour sometime 6 days.
goodluck If its not made of glass, than often its thinner and youl feel an edge on the back of your phone
Thanks for the help everyone! Now I just need to decide whether to complain to the seller and try to return the device or not.
And that's why buying second hand phones is hit and miss I guess. Gah.
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Thanks for the help everyone! Now I just need to decide whether to complain to the seller and try to return the device or not.
And that's why buying second hand phones is hit and miss I guess. Gah.
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I would return it if he didn't mentioned it in his auction.
Btw is your phone waterproof (pressure sensor test)?
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I would return it if he didn't mentioned it in his auction.
Btw is your phone waterproof (pressure sensor test)?
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It wasn't mentioned in the auction. Unfortunately I didn't notice until 32 days after sale, so the ebay guarantee doesn't apply *frustrated*.
Doing a pressure sensor test, the pressure does go up so it is still fully sealed (which I'm pretty surprised about, to be honest). Still, if it were submerged there would be forces on the camera lens etc that just pressing on it doesn't create, so I'm still not going to try to drown it =) Probably pretty safe for a rinse though.
If I can't sort it out with the seller, I might just buy a new back, remove the lens etc from the new one, put a thin coat of epoxy resin over the broken one and sandwich the new one onto it. Hopefully having two layers will increase the strength (if not the prettiness).
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It wasn't mentioned in the auction. Unfortunately I didn't notice until 32 days after sale, so the ebay guarantee doesn't apply *frustrated*.
Doing a pressure sensor test, the pressure does go up so it is still fully sealed (which I'm pretty surprised about, to be honest). Still, if it were submerged there would be forces on the camera lens etc that just pressing on it doesn't create, so I'm still not going to try to drown it =) Probably pretty safe for a rinse though.
If I can't sort it out with the seller, I might just buy a new back, remove the lens etc from the new one, put a thin coat of epoxy resin over the broken one and sandwich the new one onto it. Hopefully having two layers will increase the strength (if not the prettiness).
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Wow. It's still water resistant. In my case the glue was so bad, that my back panel got opened so I had to use some normal glue to make it stick. I replaced the back myself, so If I were you I wouldn't touch the back panel if you don't have any problems with it.
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Thanks to everyone who responded!
One last favour: just doing a minor battle over PayPal claim that the back is not original. It would be great if someone could just take a few snaps of the back of their phone with original glass (especially if it can include the detail of the lens and flash lens, which seem to be the most obvious differences between the Sony and non-Sony rear glass). I've got plenty of stock/review photos, but it would be really helpful to have a couple which are 'real' pics rather than stock ones.
Many thanks =)
vo4LG said:
Thanks to everyone who responded!
One last favour: just doing a minor battle over PayPal claim that the back is not original. It would be great if someone could just take a few snaps of the back of their phone with original glass (especially if it can include the detail of the lens and flash lens, which seem to be the most obvious differences between the Sony and non-Sony rear glass). I've got plenty of stock/review photos, but it would be really helpful to have a couple which are 'real' pics rather than stock ones.
Many thanks =)
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Hope this helps, my point and shoot is out of batteries.
You can also point out the 20.7Mpix and G lens writing it is printed inside the glass and the cover is supposed to be blueish expecially when wet, like a shine trough effect.
I bought a Nexus hoping that this device will last me for years to come.
But I am having doubts that if it will last long without a cover.
I decided not to put a cover on the phone just to make the phone always look good and not be one of those people who are always scared of getting scratches on their phone. However, just after 1 month of usage, the phone is literally having marks and scratches everywhere on the phone (including the visor) except the screen.
Even my 5 and 4 year old Samsung Galaxy 3 and Note 1 which never had a cover either don't have these many scratches, even today.
Why you let me down Huawei?
Is putting a cover the only option I have got?
Hi there,
I have my 6P for 10 months now with case 100% of the time.
Does it help? No.
When I take out the phone, I can see small scratches and dents. This is because some dust particles get in from time to time. This way when the case and the phone move a little touching each other, the surface of the phone is scratched.
It is disappointing.
I have my note 3 which haven't been in a case and it's more than 3 years old now, and does not have so many marks in the back.
This trend to make devices all metal is the dummest thing ever. At least they can put on some coating on the metal or something. :/
This is by far the most fragile phone I've ever had.
I've had mine since Nov 9th 2015. It's been in a case and a tempered glass screen protector since then. Just took it out and it's still mint. No scratches or anything. I also got the graphite.
Agreed, fragile AF!!!! LOL bent two of them in pocket without even doing anything extreme and i dont even wear jeans i wear comfy chinos. LOL so yeah got replacements for those.
TBH i've never seen anyone able to keep their phone in pristine condition with no case. granted they're probably more careful. But AFAIK, the moment they drop it there goes the phone. personally, I'm clumsy enough to warrant a case so i invested in a good Spigen one (see signature) and promptly dropped it on rough tarmac a week into ownership. I'd say if i had no case on, I'd have lost this phone.
Regarding your scratches on your phone, yes. This is aluminum. It's a soft metal. What are you expecting? Have you seen a pristine no case iPhone? This isn't really a "fault". A little bit of adjusting of expectations is in order. I personally like the polycarbonate that I had on my HTC one X of old. Even Samsung's plastic doesn't hold as well against the strength of polycarbonate.
Okay maybe 6p is not the toughest phone around, but comparing it with old samsung devices made of plastic is plain stupid. Its fricking aluminium, soft metal, show me one metal phone without scratches, i can assure you, you cant.
Better to have marks than totally broken phone. I dont use or even have case and I have dropped mine a few times and its not bad. A few marks here on the edges and there and tempered glass has saved the screen once. I have noticed I have much better luck with screens being ok after drops with aluminum phones than I had with plastic ones that always got broken screen when dropped even from low height.
I agree is a bit sensitive, a little flower if you wanna go there.
But it's our responsibility to keep it safe knowing this. I also wanted to use mine naked as it looks better and lighter this way, but it's so prone to on falling and hitting on something that I won't take the chance.
You can get good looking cases as well, Spigen for example looks good and protects it good.
Yeah kills a bit the aspect and gets slightly heavier, but it adds to protection and it's worth it.
Occasionally remove it and clean it to dust it off particles that enter occasionally.
shuckeru said:
TBH i've never seen anyone able to keep their phone in pristine condition with no case. granted they're probably more careful. But AFAIK, the moment they drop it there goes the phone. personally, I'm clumsy enough to warrant a case so i invested in a good Spigen one (see signature) and promptly dropped it on rough tarmac a week into ownership. I'd say if i had no case on, I'd have lost this phone.
Regarding your scratches on your phone, yes. This is aluminum. It's a soft metal. What are you expecting? Have you seen a pristine no case iPhone? This isn't really a "fault". A little bit of adjusting of expectations is in order. I personally like the polycarbonate that I had on my HTC one X of old. Even Samsung's plastic doesn't hold as well against the strength of polycarbonate.
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True, but the old phones were quite sturdy, and by old I don't mean Nokia 3310, I mean Androids that came out till the 4.4 era.
Check out the photo of my attached I5800.
Not a single scratch on the screen, only the silver plating has come off.
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True, but the old phones were quite sturdy, and by old I don't mean Nokia 3310, I mean Androids that came out till the 4.4 era.
Check out the photo of my attached I5800.
Not a single scratch on the screen, only the silver plating has come off.
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I dont agree. In the past I always had to change my screen once or phone was full of marks if I didnt cover phone in some kind of casing. Now I dont even bother using a case as the last time I broke a screen from a phone was with Note 2 that I dropped into a puddle on asphalt. For example I had really really bad luck with my M8 like slipping a couple of times and it flew many meters high and landed face down and nothing. A few tempered screens but nothing else than some cosmetic marks. I feel the newer are much much better built than the phones like SGS2, Galaxy Nexus, Desire series etc etc.
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True, but the old phones were quite sturdy, and by old I don't mean Nokia 3310, I mean Androids that came out till the 4.4 era.
Check out the photo of my attached I5800.
Not a single scratch on the screen, only the silver plating has come off.
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that silver plating that has come off is the equivalent to any scratches you find on the back of the phone from putting/taking out of your pockets. It's just normal wear and tear. We need to keep in mind the material strength of the metal/plastic/polycarbonate/glass. The 6p's screen uses Corning gorilla glass 4. That stuff is virtually unscratchable from normal use. Of course you're not going to find much scuffs there compared to its soft aluminum body.
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True, but the old phones were quite sturdy, and by old I don't mean Nokia 3310, I mean Androids that came out till the 4.4 era.
Check out the photo of my attached I5800.
Not a single scratch on the screen, only the silver plating has come off.
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Wait a minute. I'm confused lol. You said the 6P is the most fragile phone you've ever used but now the damage or color loss in that pic is clearly worse. Not sure if trolling or...
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that silver plating that has come off is the equivalent to any scratches you find on the back of the phone from putting/taking out of your pockets. It's just normal wear and tear. We need to keep in mind the material strength of the metal/plastic/polycarbonate/glass. The 6p's screen uses Corning gorilla glass 4. That stuff is virtually unscratchable from normal use. Of course you're not going to find much scuffs there compared to its soft aluminum body.
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I am not talking about the screen, that thing is literally unscratched.
The rest of the phone is pretty weak though.
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Wait a minute. I'm confused lol. You said the 6P is the most fragile phone you've ever used but now the damage or color loss in that pic is clearly worse. Not sure if trolling or...
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Mate, that's a 5 year old phone.
This is a 1 month old phone.
Well as mentioned it is aluminum. By nature, it's a very soft metal. Think soda can. Obviously it isn't going to be indestructible like some older plastic phones you mentioned earlier. If you're looking for a tank of a phone, maybe you should have considered something else. Nexus line was never really meant to be "premium" and has always been cheaper than other highly marketed flagships. Like mentioned earlier, maybe managing expectations based on this info which has always been the case is in order. I get that you don't like it, so maybe your best bet is to sell and get another phone? I can't speak to the Nexus 6, but I've had my Nexus 5 since launch 2013 and it is still in mint condition. For that I only use the bumper case (wraps around the phone, doesn't cover the back) and still no small wear and tear scratches. Just one big one that I accidentally did with a razor blade.
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I am not talking about the screen, that thing is literally unscratched.
The rest of the phone is pretty weak though.
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It's no different from any other aluminum phone. you can't expect it to be as resistant as plastic... we've been trying to tell you this. I really am not sure what you are expecting an aluminum body to be.
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Well as mentioned it is aluminum. By nature, it's a very soft metal. Think soda can. Obviously it isn't going to be indestructible like some older plastic phones you mentioned earlier. If you're looking for a tank of a phone, maybe you should have considered something else. Nexus line was never really meant to be "premium" and has always been cheaper than other highly marketed flagships. Like mentioned earlier, maybe managing expectations based on this info which has always been the case is in order. I get that you don't like it, so maybe your best bet is to sell and get another phone? I can't speak to the Nexus 6, but I've had my Nexus 5 since launch 2013 and it is still in mint condition. For that I only use the bumper case (wraps around the phone, doesn't cover the back) and still no small wear and tear scratches. Just one big one that I accidentally did with a razor blade.
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Yes, I get it now.
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It's no different from any other aluminum phone. you can't expect it to be as resistant as plastic... we've been trying to tell you this. I really am not sure what you are expecting an aluminum body to be.
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Titanium.
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Titanium.
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Well in that case it would be exactly as expensive as other flagships. :silly:
Little heavier, too.
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Titanium.
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i would jump on that phone LOL
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Well in that case it would be exactly as expensive as other flagships. :silly:
Little heavier, too.
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Doesn't matter. **** will be the best phone ever.
shuckeru said:
i would jump on that phone LOL
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I would sell everything I have for it.
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Doesn't matter. **** will be the best phone ever.
I would sell everything I have for it.
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You also have to take into account that Titanium isn't as effective as aluminum when it comes to heat transfer, so you'd have a warmer phone which would suffer from higher amounts of thermal throttling.