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There is so much that I would like to know, I am not a programmer although I did dabble with Basic on a ZX81 and I don't really think i could learn a new language at my age, not that i'm old, its just that i'm lazy.
Over the past few days I have been amazed by the developments on this site; new ROMs issued, new(?) software found and I've done my best to keep up but I just find myself losing my way.
I've installed the v1.1 dev rom and am getting on with it fine, its just that it doesn't seem to do things that the o2 version did - i suppose that's the point - but i'm never sure whether its something i've done to mess things up.
I can sit in front of my pc at work and tweak, change, mess up and start all over again and the same at home, but when it comes to the XDA i'm a little lost. I know (or at least think I know) what's going on 'under the hood' but as with pcs i still keep coming back to 'what if, what if.....?
I would like to help in some way. This site has given me confidence to change things - although I don't really understand them - and I'm not sure I could get myself out of trouble - I know where to go for help but that's not the same thing.
So if anyone knows of something that I can do please let me know.
ianlake said:
There is so much that I would like to know, I am not a programmer although I did dabble with Basic on a ZX81 and I don't really think i could learn a new language at my age, not that i'm old, its just that i'm lazy.
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Ah, good old 81: I had one. I'd say it's gotten easier since...
I've installed the v1.1 dev rom and am getting on with it fine, its just that it doesn't seem to do things that the o2 version did - i suppose that's the point - but i'm never sure whether its something i've done to mess things up.
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It would help if you were more specific: what did it do before that doesn't do now. I can only think of this 'Action Engine framework' thing, which we found to be superfluous. We have, to our surprise, since discovered there were some people that actually used it. It's big, it's installed in RAM, and it can do sneaky things behind your back. We didn't like it.
So if anyone knows of something that I can do please let me know.
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You're purposely being vague here, right?
not purposely vague, just feeling my age, its the end of term at college and despite being student free for 6 weeks, i will have plenty to keep me occupied, i'd like to get to grips with.............but that's another story. i'd like to learn more about xda's without trashing mine - i'm still paying for it and i'm a tight-wad.
as to things it doesn't do - wap doesn't, ezos shortcut works but i can't get anywhere. action engine doesn't but it was there and i did use it - however the apparent difference in speed and the difference in space make that no loss.
how, for instance is it possible to remove items that are apparently unremovable? Transcriber for one, i have a copy of Calligrapher that doesn't like transcriber, but can i use calligrapher - no.
oh and i'm really interested in anything free. and my students like me - when i'm awake, and when i'm not asking them to work.
that'll teach me for rambling, another thing not working is my o2 email account i get into this endless cycle of connecting, logging in, disconnecting, connecting, logging in, disconnecting..........................
Does anyone know how to do it on the Droid?
Is there a single honorable reason why you would be interested in doing this?
I sure can't think of one.
well as soon as wifi packet injection works on android i am switching.
¿GotJazz? said:
Is there a single honorable reason why you would be interested in doing this?
I sure can't think of one.
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Vulnerability testing... an auditor who wants to do bluetooth related pen test with his/her phone?
archangelugp said:
Vulnerability testing... an auditor who wants to do bluetooth related pen test with his/her phone?
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Lets go with that . So I'm guessing theres no way yet?
alienware777 said:
Lets go with that . So I'm guessing theres no way yet?
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Nope. Not yet.
I don't see why it matters to anyone why someone wants this.
I want this too. I don't have to explain to anyone as to why I want it. Because, it is absolutely none of your business. If you don't know how to implement it, then don't post.
Lol. This is a public forum. Of course you don't have to explain why you want something. Equally, if someone who could help doesn't want to, because they suspect you're up to no good, they don't have to justify their actions either, let alone help you. Blessed be.
cauli said:
Lol. This is a public forum. Of course you don't have to explain why you want something. Equally, if someone who could help doesn't want to, because they suspect you're up to no good, they don't have to justify their actions either, let alone help you. Blessed be.
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Touché. I'll admit it. The main reason I want this is to mess with my friends. Nothing actually detrimental. Same reason I like sms bombers, and caller id fakers.
But still, this would be great to add on to my list
This would be so awesome..just from a security standpoint to be able to show and explain to friends and family to not there guards down when it comes to cyber theft and to turn off your radios when not in use
I never quite understand answers like this. This forum is for the exchange of information, not personal opinions. People that think their some kind of 'ethics police' need not be on this type of site. This site is for the exploration, hacking and development of our phones. Rooting & custom firmware is frowned upon by security researchers and manufacturers alike, but because your into it, it's morally correct?
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I never quite understand answers like this. This forum is for the exchange of information, not personal opinions. People that think their some kind of 'ethics police' need not be on this type of site. This site is for the exploration, hacking and development of our phones. Rooting & custom firmware is frowned upon by security researchers and manufacturers alike, but because your into it, it's morally correct?
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Yep, one man's "not needed" is another man's necessity. This is no less needed than say someone thinking they need a ps3 controller (or wiimote) working with their phone, but no one really complains about that.
here's a very legitimate reason for you so if you know how PM me
Hi,
A friend of mine has an older mobile with a broken touchscreen - the phone no longer has a SIM or a RAM card and is in "Music Sync" mode when it connects to a PC via USB.
They are currently in a court case and need to get their old SMS's off the broken phone - all the "forensic" mobile software out there (from $500 up to $5000!!!) require that the phone is in PC-Suite (or PC-Sync) mode. This can't be changed on the phone as the touchscreen doesn't work.
The only way to get to the SMS's is by Bluesnarfing, so if you know of a PC program or a WinMo 6.5 program that will let me access their phone PM me.
Thanks.
Why is there always that one person that offers no assistance, takes up bandwidth questioning your motives...
For those that don't know:
"Bluesnarfing is the theft of information from a wireless device through a Bluetooth connection, often between phones, desktops, laptops, and PDAs. This allows access to a calendar, contact list, emails and text messages. Bluesnarfing is much more serious in relation to Bluejacking, although both exploit others’ Bluetooth connections without their knowledge. Any device with its Bluetooth connection turned on and set to “discoverable” (able to be found by other Bluetooth devices in range) can be attacked. By turning off this feature you can be protected from the possibility of being Bluesnarfed. Since it is an invasion of privacy, Bluesnarfing is illegal in many countries."
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I am coming from a DX where TBH modded the NV files to use the stock hotspot application.
I was wondering if there has been any devs taking a look into this...
And by the way I DO NOT want to start a ethics war on tethering or not tethering...
Thank you
There's been threads with lots of useful information (and posts) within the last couple of weeks. You'll probably get more informative answers looking at those then asking people to repeat what they already said.
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There's been threads with lots of useful information (and posts) within the last couple of weeks. You'll probably get more informative answers looking at those then asking people to repeat what they already said.
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I have skimmed thru quite a few recent posts regarding tethering and I find none of them useful in answering my question. I see that many of the posts go on to get a smartass remark or two from someone who has not a clue about how to answer the question.
Kinda like what happened in this post.
So I would like a linky or a better answer.
Ohhhh, if you want a smartass answer, I could do far better....
That was only my polite, "look around the knowledge base because it's useful" answer that noobs seem to find insulting anyways.
If I really wanted to be insulting, I would tell you to RTFM . I help plenty of people with legitimate questions, feel free to look at my post history and see for yourself.
But really, I do agree the ways people say it tend to be rather blunt.
However, the overreactions to even sensible replies to search around are also just also just as bad, since there doesn't need to be a new posting always and some people just don't think before they make one and reminding them to do a little search I think helps (if done in a not so overly rude way). My initial post was not a slight against you but a word of advice that people will do what you just said, insult you and give you non-helpful replies.
IDK what kind of solution you are looking for, but there isn't a magical "Verizon will give you free unlimited tethering legitimately without extra cost option if you ask them really nicely" or a "I'll come right over to your house code and compile the most amazing tether app in the world that actually boosts your LTE speed beyond what Verizon gives you and does your homework when it's idle."
Instead of taking the defensive because someone asked if you looked around a little, perhaps clarifying your question in a way that shows that you actually searched (i.e. "I noticed there was this method to tether or that, but I don't really like those options") makes it clear to everyone you gave it an honest shot and also motivates people to want to help you more
It also keeps things on topic so you get the answer you want faster. Just for future reference.
I searched the TB forums and didn't really see anything on the subject. I only found
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1082585
Maybe there's more in the general Android forums, though I didn't find much there either. I could just suck at searching.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1087475&highlight=tether
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074992&highlight=tether
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1077029&highlight=tether
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1070477&highlight=tether
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1064246&highlight=tether
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060549&highlight=tether
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056647&highlight=tether
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1054866&highlight=tether
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060701&highlight=tether
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1034262&highlight=tether
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1007537&highlight=tether
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1030818&highlight=tether
and many more (I stopped on page 6 http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=74208283&pp=25&page=6)
I recommend using advanced search and "search by post" not by title. You'll get more relevant info that way. If you happen to be an opera mobile or desktop user, you can make a custom search from http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?f=940, by hold pressing on the search bar for that page for mobile or right clicking for the desktop. It will then add it to your other custom searches for easy access
Anyone of the links above mention this?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...ave-your-data-session-cut-off-with-an-upsale/
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Anyone of the links above mention this?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...ave-your-data-session-cut-off-with-an-upsale/
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No, because it's a different phone that was never fully rooted and it's the only phone mentioned, but it's worth talking about since it's the first threat that comes off as more than words (though it could still be regardless). Verizon can tell what you're doing far easier on it than other phones because you don't ever have full control of it on the droidx. If there's any phone that can detect if you're doing unauthorized tethering, it's going to be a phone that's locked down. People who buy moto get what they pay for.
Though someone did mention it somewhere in some topic on the thunderbolt forums about the droidx having ways to detect it, but it was just glossed over.
I never used stock hotspot app because I never even try apps with monthly charges. what's the point of checking it out and potentially getting hooked when I'm absolutely certain that I will NOT pay monthly charge for that. I'd rather switch back to T-mobile
with that said, I'm using wifi tether as I write this. it took me a while to configure it because it wouldn't work out of box but it's free and well worth the price!
I've been busy lately and havent kept up with this...so Verizon shut down the free tethering apps, like "wifi tether for root" and others?
Not to throw this thread off topic or anything I just wanted to know how you got the H and # key's confused in the thread title as they are quite far apart. Again, sorry to everyone just kind of a weird mistake.
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No, because it's a different phone that was never fully rooted and it's the only phone mentioned, but it's worth talking about since it's the first threat that comes off as more than words (though it could still be regardless). Verizon can tell what you're doing far easier on it than other phones because you don't ever have full control of it on the droidx. If there's any phone that can detect if you're doing unauthorized tethering, it's going to be a phone that's locked down. People who buy moto get what they pay for.
Though someone did mention it somewhere in some topic on the thunderbolt forums about the droidx having ways to detect it, but it was just glossed over.
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Seems the Thunderbolt running gingerbread is the same way, although I reverted back to froyo for the time being so I cannot confirm what this article states.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/05/3...ireless-tether-asks-that-you-purchase-a-plan/
Doesn't CM7 provide an integrated tethering solution? That should be undetectable to Verizon.
If they are baking something into the gingerbread update to detect tethering apps (pun not intended but welcome), it won't find its way into the CM7 code.
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Seems the Thunderbolt running gingerbread is the same way, although I reverted back to froyo for the time being so I cannot confirm what this article states.
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I doubt anyone on a T-bolt can confirm since we're still getting free hotspot. Unless they are allowing official hotspot use but blocking tethering apps.
I suppose that would make sense if they're trying to get people hooked on the feature.
Yareally thanks for the links. I don't know if you own a xoom but I have yet been able to get the search feature to work in the xda site. Maybe you could find a link for that as well and post it for me.
I am not currently at home with access to my laptop where I have full availability to use the advanced search feature. So thanks again for making these links available in ones easy to find location.
As for the #.. I use thumb keyboard on t#e xoom and it is t#e result of a long press on t#e h key. I think you should be proud if yourself for being able to figure out what I meant to type.
No offence to anyone but some times when you all jump on people asses there may be extenuating circumstances.
Sry for your troubles. But I hope you rest good at night knowing that you have helped one soul find some good info.
The search feature using a web browser or using the application for xda? I've heard the application has lots of issues for anyone period with the search and since many seem to use it, it's probably the reason for lots of duplicate posts. If you mean browsing it on an internet browser, that seems new to me as far as I know.
I've never used it, I just browse using opera mobile (with a link to the thunderbolt forum on my speed dial and the search tied into the search bar next to the url bar).
Opera mobile still has an unresolved issue with LTE being throttled (max of like 150KB/s), but it's not a deal breaker for me at least compared to using the stock browser in terms of getting to where I want to go quickly and its tie-ins to the desktop browser.
No worries about the thread. Internet makes it hard at times to interpret someone's replies anyways since words can be taken many ways, lol.
So! I am using the latest CM7 build(RC 1.6.1), MR2 Radio, stock kernels and I live on the east coast US. I'm using Fancy Widgets because it's a pretty decent and free replacement for a sense-like clock. But I am often getting an issue that effects not only it, but the default News and Weather App that says I am located in Klaipėda. I can sometimes fix it by opening Google Maps and refreshing my location there, and then refreshing my location in FW. My clock seems to be fine, but the widget app displays a moon after around 2PM. Anyone have ideas?
Yes, you are really in Lithuania. Your phone knows much better about where you are than you do. I mean it has GPS for s***sake.
But really...this has been covered hundreds of times in any CM7 tbolt thread you can find.
It's a problem with network location. Some suggested turning "Mock Locations" off in Applications/Development helped. Others said it made no difference.
BTW, in case Google is a little intimidating I'll get you started...http://www.google.com/search?q=(fan...ation+cm7+thunderbolt+site:xda-developers.com or http://www.google.com/search?q=(fan...ocation+cm7+thunderbolt+RC+site:rootzwiki.com
TLDR: yes...it's known
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Yes, you are really in Lithuania. Your phone knows much better about where you are than you do. I mean it has GPS for s***sake.
But really...this has been covered hundreds of times in any CM7 tbolt thread you can find.
It's a problem with network location. Some suggested turning "Mock Locations" off in Applications/Development helped. Others said it made no difference.
BTW, in case Google is a little intimidating I'll get you started...http://www.google.com/search?q=(fan...ation+cm7+thunderbolt+site:xda-developers.com or http://www.google.com/search?q=(fan...ocation+cm7+thunderbolt+RC+site:rootzwiki.com
TLDR: yes...it's known
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I'll try using the turning off Mock Locations and see where that gets me. I didn't see it in every thunderbolt thread, probably should have looked just a littler harder. But I seriously thank you for reminding me to use Google in such a way. I mean, it's so useful for finding many things, look at what else I just found.
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2.5 New Members: Treat new members the way you would have liked to have been treated when you were a new member. Provide the new members with guidance, advice and instruction always with respect and courtesy.
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He was treating you with respect. Lighten up a little The truth is most answers on XDA can be found by using the search button.
As mentioned it's a known bug with all aosp on the ThunderBolt and the devs are aware of the issue.
And yes, you really are in Lithuania lol
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He was treating you with respect. Lighten up a little
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I disagree, telling people they are 'special' when they couldn't find something through searching and telling them and suggesting that Google is intimidating comes off rather rude. Not to mention posting a 'TooLongDidntRead.' But maybe I'm just reading too much into this.
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I disagree, telling people they are 'special' when they couldn't find something through searching and telling them and suggesting that Google is intimidating comes off rather rude. Not to mention posting a 'TooLongDidntRead.' But maybe I'm just reading too much into this.
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If you read a number of my posts, especially some in the dInc forum, I have a tendency to come of VERY blunt with a good does of my own personal character and opinion. It doesn't always come off as well in writing as it does in person. Absolute_Zero is a good guy and will do anything he can to help. I'm sure you can depend on him to answer any question you might have, but like many of the rest of us, I see his point in searching first. There's a lot of people here that know a lot of stuff who didn't obtain that knowledge by question, but rather, by searching it out, and there's a frustration that comes with seeing a question arise that hasn't been researched before posting... at least that's the assumption.
Let's just let it go. This isn't an issue that's going to enrich anyone.
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So! I am using the latest CM7 build(RC 1.6.1), MR2 Radio, stock kernels and I live on the east coast US. I'm using Fancy Widgets because it's a pretty decent and free replacement for a sense-like clock. But I am often getting an issue that effects not only it, but the default News and Weather App that says I am located in Klaipėda. I can sometimes fix it by opening Google Maps and refreshing my location there, and then refreshing my location in FW. My clock seems to be fine, but the widget app displays a moon after around 2PM. Anyone have ideas?
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...In Soviet Russia...oh nevermind
I'd say turn off mock locations, set your location manually and/or use gps to get it. You should be fine then.
I running The-Unofficial ROM from The Collective. NFC is activated and I'm curious as hell what it's all about. I wanna use it but I'm not sure where to start. From what I gather, Google wallet will not work for payments at this point on the Note. Are there other forms of payment apps that I can use? I have NFC, what should I do with it? Thanks!
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I running The-Unofficial ROM from The Collective. NFC is activated and I'm curious as hell what it's all about. I wanna use it but I'm not sure where to start. From what I gather, Google wallet will not work for payments at this point on the Note. Are there other forms of payment apps that I can use? I have NFC, what should I do with it? Thanks!
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Here's a good article for ya.
http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/how-to-use-nfc-to-automate-your-mobile-routine-2012028/
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Here's a good article for ya.
http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/how-to-use-nfc-to-automate-your-mobile-routine-2012028/
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I had no clue what NFC was and just kept ignoring the term when I saw it. But this is COOL! Thanks for posting that article. Am I understanding this correctly that the phone can actually write the code to the tag? So all I need to do is buy a few dirt cheap tags and I can start doing this?
Also, I'm looking on this site... want to make sure these will be ok.
http://www.tagstand.com/collections...2-nfc-sticker-ultralight-c-square-35mm-x-35mm
I'm really wanting to walk into McDonald's and pay for my iced coffee with my phone, cuz I can