Dropped in shallow, muddy water. How concerned should I be? - HTC EVO 3D

Watering the plants, I dropped my 3vo while listening to music into shallow muddy water face down, it was not fully submerged. Music continued and screen worked until I pulled the battery (immediately), noting that water did not enter the casing, then I continued to wipe off the water and blow the crevices with compressed air. When I blew air into the grill with the talk speaker, light & proximity sensors, and indicator light, I noticed bits of water flew out. I've concluded that this is the only problem area as water did not enter inside anywhere else . . . should I be concerned with slight amounts of dirty water in there? How can I clean it out from under the grill, as I do not have distilled water at home?
It is sitting face down in a bowl of uncooked rice atm.
Thank you very much in advanced!

You're probably fine... I've done the same (minus the rice) and had no issue whatsoever.

Our phones are beast mode. No worries

I never tried to put my Evo in the water but put my old N1 into the washing mashine (by accident ofc). After 15 minutes at 60°C (140F) I saw some weird light coming out of the mashine. It was the screen showing fancy stuff. There was water EVERYWHERE. The screen was still on when it was 3/4 filled with water. Even the battery is performing still perfect.
Long story short:
The board with the camera on it was partly fried:
- cam broken (worked for a few days than decided better not to)
- bluetooth broken
- fm radio not working because it gets its juice through the bluetooth chip
Everything else was fine. The beast is still working (happened in 2010) without any problems. If the evo's build quality is similar your phone might even had fun while jumping into that muddy water.

First off, you absolutely did the right thing by immediately taking the battery out and putting it in rice. Most phones can be saved from water damage as long as they are FULLY dried out before turning them back on again. Boards get shorted out when you try to turn the power on when there is still water inside the phone.
Second, if it was just regular water, you should be fine with just drying it out. But since you say it was muddy water, I would personally suggest taking the phone apart and cleaning any dirt out of it, just to be sure you didnt get any inside.

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AT&T Galaxy S II - Submerged for ten seconds and working!!!!

I've always read many people telling tales of their phones being ruined by being dropped in water and pretty much either having to do the rice bowl treatment for a week or giving their phone a tear jerking burial/insurance return. Well here's my tale:
While defrosting some zip lock bagged steaks in a kitchen sink full of water my Galaxy S II which was streaming Pandora at the time decided it either didn't want to sit on the counter with the seasoning or decided that it would be nice to go for a swim - actually it was probably the grocery bag being moved that knocked it into the sink - me not paying attention noticed the change in sound of the streaming music from clear to muffled looked for it then in disbelief saw the phone at the bottom of the water filled sink!!!!
I think my heart grew 10 times smaller as I thrust my hand into the sink pulling the phone out from under the depths of the water and zip locked frozen steaks, as I pulled it out from the water the music was still playing but sounded rather tinny so I frantically took a towel and wrapped it around the phone to get the water off of it then pushed the power button to see the screen light up to the lock screen. I then swiped the unlock screen and quickly closed pandora and frantically pressed the power button choosing the shutdown option dreading the worst that the phone was playing it's curtain call song and was about to die any second, then the screen went thru the shut down phase then the screen went blank and all of a sudden it turned back on and I saw the android mascot and some red and yellow text (perhaps I pushed the power button too long or the phone looked like it went into recovery mode?) and started doing "something". I said oh sh*t put the phone on the counter screen down and peeled off the back cover and yanked the battery.
at this moment I started examining the phone, the inside was completely dry sans a droplet of water over by where you pry off the back, no water on around or under the battery, around the camera or flash, the power or volume rocker, or any visible leakage around the screen. I then shook he phone over the towel I had initially dried the submerged phone with and did see a drop come from the speaker slits and then I put my mouth to both the usb and headphone jacks to suck water out of those openings (phone CPR?) and got a tiny drop maybe from the USB but nothing from the headphone jack.
At this point I was still in shock but very surprised that the phone was pretty stone dry sans from the water I wiped off of it and the tiny bit that was in the speaker opening. I gave everything a once over again with the towel just in case I missed some microscopic droplets and shook the phone again put the battery back in put the back back on and pressed the power button and voila, the Samsung Galaxy S II logo popped up and in no time the phone was back on and running like nothing happened - I ran a plethora of tests for the rest of the nigh dreading the worst but everything was golden with the exception that the speaker sounded a little tinnier that it initially was which pretty much cleared up buy the morning and sound as lout as it was out the box, I think that the water on the speaker had to dry.
Call me lucky but I've never never never experienced such amazement with a phone before in my life, it was as if the phone had a waterproof force field around it lol. I had initially though about taking the phone back to wait for the Galaxy Nexus on ATT but after that experience I'm totally on board with the Galaxy S II - I did get a tad paranoid that something might end up going wrong with the phone from the submerging to I took it back to the store last night to exchange it for another stating the speaker sounded tinny which they gladly did and after grueling task of reconfiguring all my settings and installing all my apps the new one is back as my main player and my Captivate is back in it's box (used it during my paranoid night of testing everything after the submerging).
Call me sold, I'll definately be keeping the wonder phone AKA Galaxy S II until the Galaxy S3 comes out , and I'll definitely be keeping it away from water, not gonna try my luck twice!!! Glad to see it's somewhat waterproof but please don't try this at home my heart could barely take it LOL!!!
Wow, I would panic if that happened to my brand new phone! Glad yours is still working
just tried this and it doesn't work
Next time (hopefully never) just leave it in a bag of rice for a while just in case instead of just powering it back on.
Coincidently, I came across this video today of the original Galaxy S:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8puSOR2wWfQ
When I used to work for best buy repairing laptops at their GSC, I had a broken keyboard laptop come in. When I went to replace it, I found corrosion from head to toe all over the motherboard from some sort of spill. But everything on the laptop still worked (sans the KB, but it did after replacing). I tested the hell out of it, took pictures of the water damage, wrote it up for the customer. Some people just get lucky with water damage
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just tried this and it doesn't work
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Lol
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Glad you didn't wreck your phone dude, that would /could have been really horrible.
Cool, I'm gonna give it a try....... NOT!
Years ago (late 90's I believe) I had an Nokia 6130 that I dropped in a inch plus puddle in a parking lot as I ran into the store on a rainy day. I didn't notice it until I was returning to my car later. Had to be at least 10 minutes or more. I let it dry out over night and to my surprise it functioned. I don't remember but I think the battery may have come off when it hit the ground, either way it pretty impressive.
Sheesh.... I don't think I would've waited for it to shut down... I would have been yanking that battery out post-haste.
Congrats, you were a lucky one... I think you should go buy some lottery tickets tonight... Don't wait until tomorrow.
Don
Yeah I had though about the rice bowl treatment before turning it back on but since it was so unbelievably dry and water free I took the chance and turned it right back on, even plugged the sucker in to charge it back to 100% leaving it on the charger all night with no issues at all the next day. I should have kept it as a good luck charm but didn't want to press my luck and have something go awry later so since it was still working with no issues I took it back the following night to exchange for a new one - just in case.
Let's see a metal phone take such abuse LOL, like it or not Samsung knows what they are going making their phones out of lightweight yet solid feeling plastic components, survive drops, scratch resistant screen and now add to the list moderately waterproof - it takes a licking and keeps on ticking! I summarize it down to the plastic, plastic expands as it gets warm which probably made a more watertight seal than when turned off, flimsy back my foot - I doubt a phone like the Inspire would have survived that dunking without catastrophic results.
As Fragile as it seems the Galaxy S II is pretty safe to carry around naked and survive most elements, and that's how I'll continue to carry it - while making sure to avoid water like the plague!!!
phones are weird when it comes to water, I had an iPhone 3G that sat in 3 feet of lake water for a good bit -- it still works to this day -- it had the same tinny sounding speakers for awhile and occasionally an incoming call would have really odd ring sound... when that happened i would have to hang up and call back -- but rarely happened.
Glad to know the SGS2 is potentially [moderately] safe against water exposure
I have lost a few family members to water, but not my phone!
Glad to hear I might have a chance when dropping this bad-boy into my sink.
cwc3 said:
I have lost a few family members to water, but not my phone!
Glad to hear I might have a chance when dropping this bad-boy into my sink.
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would probably survive a drop into the toilet or a bath as well, LOL, just some of the experiences I've read on the net but know a lot of people use their phones around these water hazards as well LOL .

Condensation on Camera after water immersion [FIX]

Hey guys.
Today I found myself facing moisture inside my camera after giving the Z2 a small kitchen sink wash using only the water coming from the tap.
After an hour, when i went to take a picture, it was all foggy and to my surprise, the lens was completly obstructed by condensated water.
I read 1 fix on XDA and the rest of the internet -> return it, ask for a brand new one.
Well, if you are like me and don't usually take it for a bath or go into a pool (odd enough i had put it on the sink full of water for half an hour and nothing happened), there is a "fix" for it, which I got from common sense. What i mean by common sense is that if you heat water it evaporates, but since the camera is, i suppose, a bit isolated from the rest, you cannot just let the water go away on it's own, you have to give it some help.
So, what i did was: 1 - TURN OFF YOUR PHONE; 2- open both flaps; 3- Heat the phone with a hair dryer (i really mean heat it, so the watter does not return to liquid state imediatelly) 4 - Suck the moisture out from the left side (closest to the camera) flap with your mouth; 5 - WAIT FOR IT TO COOL BEFORE YOU TURN IT ON; 6 - go take a well deserved picture.
It goes away in a day at most anyway, it's simple science hot air hitting cold air = condensation, it's unavoidable
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It goes away in a day at most anyway, it's simple science hot air hitting cold air = condensation, it's unavoidable
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If the water is inside it does not come out in a day, the phone is sealed in.
Even if it did, this is an easy fix and gets rid of the water inside your phone, so your answer manages to add no value.
Nor does your so called fix
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i had this on my xperia z1 after a day of been cinstantly damp and intermitantly soaked but my phone was hot from use. When i opened the ports it all cleared up within a minute
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3- Heat the phone with a hair dryer (i really mean heat it)
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Your phone has a lot of expressly sensitive electrical components. I don't think it's advisable to heat it like this unless you want to fry components and loosen the glue that holds stuff together.
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Have the same few days ago. And did the same without hairdryer. First cold water from sink. After pass waterproof test i got phone with me to shower. After that i saw condesation inside. I almost died,one week old phone. But i open flaps, do everything without no.3, + sillica gel for 2 days , laying on the warm heater one night. Now everything is good, everything works, indicator under microsd flap is white. I think everthing is cool, what's yours opinion?
Just got the Problem
I just got this problem.
Before seeing this post I was so worried. Now, I'm feeling relaxed.
Thanks
same happened to me, just washing grease off phone using tab water. so does this only effect the glass on top of the camera? is the rest of the phone actually still waterproof? i'm a bit confused, so does this proof that our ip58 actually working or not? i never had this problem with my z1
Ah yes I remember that happening back when my Xperia Z initially died on me.
what would you guys recommend i do? repair it or just give up on it?
I have new phone, the old one wasn't waterproof. So if you can - repair i think.
thanksss ..
I've done so many ways to eliminate the moisture in my z3 lens .. with the rice , silica gel .. and it still kept coming back
but with your way , the moisture inside my phone immidiately gone and the way is logical as well ..
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So, what i did was: 1 - TURN OFF YOUR PHONE; 2- open both flaps; 3- Heat the phone with a hair dryer (i really mean heat it, so the watter does not return to liquid state imediatelly) 4 - Suck the moisture out from the left side (closest to the camera) flap with your mouth; 5 - WAIT FOR IT TO COOL BEFORE YOU TURN IT ON; 6 - go take a well deserved picture.
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Thanks man your way worked with me
I had the same problem and fixed it. And a question remain that can I use my phone in water? My mind says no. Is there any way to get ? back?
badjoras said:
Hey guys.
Today I found myself facing moisture inside my camera after giving the Z2 a small kitchen sink wash using only the water coming from the tap.
After an hour, when i went to take a picture, it was all foggy and to my surprise, the lens was completly obstructed by condensated water.
I read 1 fix on XDA and the rest of the internet -> return it, ask for a brand new one.
Well, if you are like me and don't usually take it for a bath or go into a pool (odd enough i had put it on the sink full of water for half an hour and nothing happened), there is a "fix" for it, which I got from common sense. What i mean by common sense is that if you heat water it evaporates, but since the camera is, i suppose, a bit isolated from the rest, you cannot just let the water go away on it's own, you have to give it some help.
So, what i did was: 1 - TURN OFF YOUR PHONE; 2- open both flaps; 3- Heat the phone with a hair dryer (i really mean heat it, so the watter does not return to liquid state imediatelly) 4 - Suck the moisture out from the left side (closest to the camera) flap with your mouth; 5 - WAIT FOR IT TO COOL BEFORE YOU TURN IT ON; 6 - go take a well deserved picture.
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I did the same thing only I used a vacuum cleaner instead of my mouth
For the common sense; the phone turns itself off if it reaches to almost 100°C. If a passively cooled CPU is allowed to reach that high it means the back cover which is supposed to handle both the heat of the SoC and the battery, is also safe against temperatures that human skin can not.
I believe hair drier makers are also aware of human skin's sensitivity to heat, and design their products according to that.
So using a hair drier to a mobile device not more than you use it on your hair, which is generally wet with the risk of over heating, from the same distance should make no harm on the device.
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I used my table lamp to heat the water.
Thank you badjoras, it works for my z3 that I have left at the bottom of the pool for 5 minutes. The condensation occured even after the phone has successfully passed the pressure (barometer) test before swimming. I used heat gun from a safe distance (30-40 cm) for a few seconds before sucking the air using my mouth, and repeated the procedure for three or four times before all the water disappeared.

Please help! Water Damaged Xperia Z2!

Hey guys. I recently had to walk in the rain for about 30-40 minutes to my Dads work, and no I don't have a car at the moment. My phone had closed flaps and everything when I was walking. I had my rain jacket on but my phone was in my jacket's pocket. When I arrived at my dad's work I saw how wet my phone was, so i dried it off with a towel. First thing i tried was listening to music using my earphones, and it didn't work, so maybe i though it was my earphones. Then I tried to watch an MKBHD video (Yes, why not.) on youtube in landscape mode, but it didn't work, so I tried playing a tilt racing game, and my car didn't turn at all. So up to that point, i got stressed out. So I rebooted my phone, and first thing I noticed was that my Notitfication panel was Stock Marshmallow and not N themed anynmore. Then approx 7 seconds later, BOOM. Everything on screen went gone. Since it wasn't an amoled screen, i could still see that the backlight was still on, with slight darker areas around the bottom right corner. The touchscreen was still working. I was able to boot into the 'invisible recovery' (lol) and I could swipe and press and do everything, but still nothing on-screen was showing. The I looked at both of my cameras, and I could see on moth there was waterdroplets around the lenses. At that point, I got extremely stressed out, but i still ate pizza because i was hungry. (lol) So I putted in rice when i got home overnight. Still nothing happened. When rubbing the power button, i can feel water sliding out gently. I couldn't understand up to that point. "The Z2 is waterproof! Water damage was the last thing on my mind to happen to this phone!" Any solutions or tips from you guys? Thanks alot for any help!
And please don't comment that I'm a troll and i deserve it, because I'm not! Anyway, I just need help on this. Thanks!
Put it back in rice and leave for a lot longer on a radiator. Leave flaps open. Whenever phones act up after being in contact with water you gotta power that thing off. I know to late but keep drying that phone off. Best you can do. I had some say they did it for week. This worries me for my phone. But the phone really isn't that waterproof. This flaps can fail with just a little dust trapped in them..
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z2_flaps
Hej as I wrote in PM to Brandon, last year I send my phone to service couple of months old z2 for faulty pixels and themselves replaced casing, flaps, and also some parts of screen. They only commented that casing with flaps was faulty. Precaution with water... Then saying that I submerged it in swimming pool for coupe of minutes and shot a great video, phone still works.

Do not test your G6 for water-proof!

Hey guys.
I registered few minutes ago. Because i need say really important thing to you. I tried to take photos under the water. Depth was only 30cm. My phone started to say water moistorizing in usb. After that it started to charging slowly. I went to authorized lg service. They said water disrupt on your usb and they take my 45$. My cameras glass broken. My luck. So they said your back glass can broken while we are opening your phone. It is really bull****. I am trying to tell do not interact your phone with water.
Edit: Guys my phone came back. And still it is not fixed. What should i do? I want destroy their service.
My phone still have problem. It is not charging if it is charging with fast charging. I mean if there is fast charging logo on battery. It stops charging and adapter making not charging noise(Sound after full charge or no phone plugged). And it is disconnecting and reconnecting(charging logo going then it is appearing again. Stopping and starting i mean).
Red2Kit said:
Hey guys.
I registered few minutes ago. Because i need say really important thing to you. I tried to take photos under the water. Depth was only 30cm. My phone started to say water moistorizing in usb. After that it started to charging slowly. I went to authorized lg service. They said water disrupt on your usb and they take my 45$. My cameras glass broken. My luck. So they said your back glass can broken while we are opening your phone. It is really bull****. I am trying to tell do not interact your phone with water.
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Rule of dumb when having a water resistant phone, even if it's water resistant, still avoid water getting on it.
A car has airbags for safety, doesn't mean go wreck it to see if they work ctfu..
aSuperSaiyanG0D said:
Rule of dumb when having a water resistant phone, even if it's water resistant, still avoid water getting on it.
A car has airbags for safety, doesn't mean go wreck it to see if they work ctfu..
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I do not agree, If the phone is IP 68. So you can be use it underwater.
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I do not agree, If the phone is IP 68. So you can be use it underwater.
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Ya know what?
Try it out, let me know how it goes.
It works perfectly underwater the recorded video and the taken photos then let it dry for at least 1 hour even the done air with the mouth to draw the water that has inside the loading port.
- I'm sorry but I speak Spanish and I use google translator
The phone is NOT water proof.
It's water resistant, there is a huge difference.
It's meant for accidents, not really for taking it underwater for pictures.
I used my g6 in pool, I was there about 2 hours and phone was at least 20 minutes underwater in total.
Recorded some videos, made a lot of photos. Everything works perfectly, after I came back home I let it dry in rice, after about 2 hours I restarted it and there is no problems till now at all. It was 4-5 months ago
basicreece said:
The phone is NOT water proof.
It's water resistant, there is a huge difference.
It's meant for accidents, not really for taking it underwater for pictures.
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According LG UK website,the phone is IP 68 :
http://www.lg.com/uk/support/solutions/mobile/lg-g6-dust-and-water-resistance-ip68
"The second digit is 8: protection against water in complete and continuous immersion. Devicewill withstand a complete immersion in water up to 1.5 meters for 30 minutes. Water temperature can vary from 15 to 35ºC."
So the phone has to work after complete immersion. Otherwise it's misleading advertising
vip-nord said:
According LG UK website,the phone is IP 68 :
http://www.lg.com/uk/support/solutions/mobile/lg-g6-dust-and-water-resistance-ip68
"The second digit is 8: protection against water in complete and continuous immersion. Devicewill withstand a complete immersion in water up to 1.5 meters for 30 minutes. Water temperature can vary from 15 to 35ºC."
So the phone has to work after complete immersion. Otherwise it's misleading advertising
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If you can find where is states "waterproof" and not "water resistant" I'll buy you a new G6.
I repair phones for a living. These companies pick their words very carefully.
@Red2Kit In my case depth was about 200-250cm and it's still working perfectly without any issues.
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@Red2Kit In my case depth was about 200-250cm and it's still working perfectly without any issues.
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I think it is my luckiness but i dont understand why phone stopping charge if it get in to fast charge.
Water Resistant
I have taken my G6 swimming with me several times, mostly been fine.
I also had the "moisture detected" error, but I was able to solve it by rinsing out the charging port with distilled water, and using something like a toothpick to rub the usb pins clean in the port while the water was in it.
After that I blew it out and let it dry for a while, and charging fixed.
I think dirt or salt builds up on the USB pins and causes a false moisture detection.
I think normal there is not word to say. LG say clear: The Phone is for Water until 1,5m and not longer then 30mins. What is the Problem in the discription? And the word "waterproof" is not shown even the word "water resist" So it is useless to compare both cause LG not use one of These words Right? The Phone is Ready for 1,50 sweet Water and 30mins. end
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I think normal there is not word to say. LG say clear: The Phone is for Water until 1,5m and not longer then 30mins. What is the Problem in the discription? And the word "waterproof" is not shown even the word "water resist" So it is useless to compare both cause LG not use one of These words Right? The Phone is Ready for 1,50 sweet Water and 30mins. end
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Lg says "no guarantee will be applied in case of damage related to water" so end
The IP68 rating means the phone was gently placed in a clean fresh water tank 1.5m deep for 30 minutes. It was not used or moved during that time.
Using or moving the phone underwater can create stresses on the phone and the seals. This can lead to water penetration. Exposure to pool water, salt water, drinks, etc is different and my lead to penetration.
Many watches are labeled for water resistance, which is very different than waterproof. Google a guide to water resistant ratings for watches, and you will find that the depth rating is very mis-leading. Not to mention that the rating is not good forever. The seals can and do degrade over time, so that after some time, the device is no longer water resistant.
I used my phone multiple times in the sea , salty water ! And it is working perfectly fine
Used mine in the Blue Lagoon in Iceland. Spent loads of time in and under water. Still working perfectly.
I used my g6 under water in a pool, I had it in my pocket and it was submerged for at least 3-4 hours continuously. I took photos and recorded videos with it. I didn't even let it dry. After a 1 hour drive home I immediately plugged it in and it didn't even say that there is moisture into the usb port. And I usually take it with me when I'm swimming twice a week. I have been doing this for 6 months now and it still works perfectly. Ops phone was probably a defective unit.
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I regularly wash my phone with tap water, then wipe it with LCD screen cleaner and leave it to dry for like... 30 minutes in direct sun or in warm place (not hot!).
I had "moisture detected" a couple of times but usually it went away after some time.
Never, I repeat, NEVER be that dumb like me - I washed my Xperia Z3 Compact many times, as well as my G6... but I accidentally used soap while cleaning G6 once and it was almost a disaster... It took HOURS for the water to dry off my USB port, bottom and front speaker, also from my headphone jack as soap changes how water behaves... I thought I killed it but it is perfectly fine now... but think twice

water damage?

Wife submerged her phone in a pool for about 5 seconds and now sound from mic is garbled. This was two days ago. I've tried locating the LDI in the sim slot but don't see it and haven't found any pics online showing exactly were it Is. Is it possible that the phone is damaged from such limited exposure to water?
I have submerged my phone several times for seconds and few times for minutes inside pool and also used in heavy rainfall but my phone's speakers &mic recovered every time after few hours of use.
Try to keep your phone in a box full of rice for 24hrs that might solve the issue and mostly it will be a temporary issue.
I fell into salt water with my phone (for about 10 seconds) and phone survived fine. This was about 2 months ago.
Just back from tmobile and there's no water damage. Doesn't seem to be related to the dip in the pool. Since I'm withing the 14 day window, Just did an even exchange for a new device.
nosaj13 said:
Just back from tmobile and there's no water damage. Doesn't seem to be related to the dip in the pool. Since I'm withing the 14 day window, Just did an even exchange for a new device.
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So, IP68 works.
My V30 was submerged like 20 times shortly, no more than a minute or two on a very shallow depth of sea water. I desalted phone in sweet water quickly each time. I sail and my pockets are always wet, and somehow humidity got inside of the phone and now I get message "charging disabled until usb connector is dry" - and it's dry, it's been drying for days. when I tilt phone backwards, it starts to charge, then when I put it vertically it stops. Really weird.
I either have bad luck because other ppl are happy with IP68 OR not every V30 was build equally. I will buy one more V30 as they are cheap now and retry if it's luck or just bad build - and if it fails again then this phone is no IP68 whatever other ppl or articles say.
Temporary fix, maybe bad idea is to turn off the moisture sensor in service menu: type in dialer:
*#546368#*931# then service menu and disable moisture sensor. Sounds retarded approach but phone works for now. This secret number tends to vary from model to model and even stops working when you change setting or two, so you might need trying other codes to restore setting: *#546368#*930#. Totally weird, but worked here.
Funny thing - now I use Butterfly 3 for water sports because that one I don't care much about that phone due to some software bugs in dialler (exit code issue for these who know) - but that one just doesn't want to die. I was even diving with it to +10 meters many times, each time an hour of surface or deep recording to film bottom of the yacht and phone just works., wet pockets, driving on the rain, all slippery and mess from fish, and it still works.
So what is going on with these IP ratings?? They aren't right, I am telling you - they are misleading. HTC is plastic unibody with some evil glue beneath LCD and has caps for some major ports, while LG is glass sandwich design and ho caps over holes or whatever, but IP57 can't be better than IP68 but it turns HTC did better job with glue lol

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