Best Buy Trade In - Do I need to UN-Root?
Title pretty much says it all. What's your thoughts? Do I need to Un Root my OG Evo before I trade it in at Best Buy?
Thanks for any advice you can offer -
Jack
Yea.... Definitely. Unless you want trouble from the boys in blue.
I asked at best buy when I pre ordered and was told that they were taking phones that were rooted.
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Well I dont trust those guys. Give it to them stock.
I'll give you advice in the middle of the road. Wipe the device.... and load a rooted stock rom..... DO NOT have a custom rom on it...... that way its a suttle root.
This pass Friday I traded my EVO 3d to Best Buy, rooted, flashed to boost and S off. The cops still hasn't knocked on my door yet!!!
No need to unroot. I just gave same advice on the Evo 4g forum last week. Dude didn't have any problems. 2 or 3 other people chimed in saying they has no problems returning rooted phone either.
******but it probably is a good idea to flash a stock-ish ROM on it. When I take my Evo into sprint for servicing, though, the techs and some sales people love seeing android 4.0 running on my old Evo.
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I would take above advice and just flash a stock rom ..I've never un rooted my phones ..I traded in og evo rooted np ..have gotten ttwo replacemts for my evo 3d and I even got caught one time during repair process and then me and the Sprint guy talked about roms for a couple mins ..I don't think they really care
I'm just gonna wipe and unroot mine because whoever gets the phone next and wants to root it will have to figure it out for him/herself.
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david279 said:
Yea.... Definitely. Unless you want trouble from the boys in blue.
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The Blue Man Group?
It's not illegal to root your phones. It does void your warranty, but the most BB could do is say "Sorry, we can't accept rooted phones." They would have no reason to call the cops, and if they DID call the cops and detained you until the cops arrived, you'd have a hell of a lawsuit because you've done nothing wrong and certainly nothing against the law.
But it sounds like BB accepts rooted phones for trade-in anyway.
Edit: It just occurred to me that BB employees wear blue shirts. If that's what you meant, then ignore me.
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The Blue Man Group?
It's not illegal to root your phones. It does void your warranty, but the most BB could do is say "Sorry, we can't accept rooted phones." They would have no reason to call the cops, and if they DID call the cops and detained you until the cops arrived, you'd have a hell of a lawsuit because you've done nothing wrong and certainly nothing against the law.
But it sounds like BB accepts rooted phones for trade-in anyway.
Edit: It just occurred to me that BB employees wear blue shirts. If that's what you meant, then ignore me.
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You've been ignored.
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Don't they flash the stock ROMs anyways? Would make sense since, especially if they try to resell it. That's the only way they know for sure it's back to normal.
I'd still flash to a stock ROM, but I wouldn't think it'd be the end of the world.
Thanks for the advice. I think I'll just unroot and put the stock Rom on it. I planned to do a factory reset or a clean rom install before I hand it in anyway.
Jack
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I know this doesn't QUITE fit the thread title, but same question goes for the Sprint buyback program - do I need to unroot and S-on my phone?
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So after going through 3 Eris handsets and finally finding a CSR who had enough to sympathy on me to send out an Incredible, I've now gone through 2 of the latter. Both have reboot loop issues, the first wouldn't even go past the quietly brilliant screen while the second can go four hours before deciding not to work for an hour. This is the most frustrating thing I've ever been through. I'm gonna try to talk customer service into a new Inc instead of a refurbished one and see if that changes anything. Otherwise I'm just going to keep the third Eris and steal my moms upgrade in June I guess.
Moral of the story, just because something looks better doesn't mean it always is.
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I went through 3 Eris's and I'm on my second D2, which I haven't had any problems with. The refurbs from Verizon are hit and miss, mostly miss. Good luck getting them to send you a new one. I have a feeling your going to have to put up a good fight for that. Hopefully it works out for you though.
Fortunately I've had nothing but good experiences with customer service. I'll ETF my contract if they refuse to help and I'll go to Sprint.
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Never had an issue with my original new devices on Verizon, so never had to deal with the refurb. But I'd still take mom's in June and get something hardcore (Like the Merge?)
If the third one coming on Tuesday has the same issue then that's exactly what I'll do.
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gee7201 said:
Never had an issue with my original new devices on Verizon, so never had to deal with the refurb. But I'd still take mom's in June and get something hardcore (Like the Merge?)
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I was hoping for the Merge as well, but everything that I have seen rumored about it lately says it is going to Alltel. (several sites are posting that the Merge passed FCC yesterday for Alltel) So probably it wont be in your average Verizon store. I was hoping for an HTC device that has something smaller than a the mammoth 4.3 inch screen and the keyboard was something of a bonus to me.
I'll probably be going with an HTC device when I get my upgrade/ get a different carrier. Moto has made me never want to buy another phone from them because of the efuse, and the Evo is awesome....
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I'll probably be going with an HTC device when I get my upgrade/ get a different carrier. Moto has made me never want to buy another phone from them because of the efuse, and the Evo is awesome....
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Hopefully the Bionic will not be locked down, HTCs QC is really beginning to worry me.
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Why would they not lock down the bionic after the success they had with the x? Sales and security wise. Locking it down didn't hurt either company. A tier 3 Verizon tech told me not to be surprised if it's businessas usual. They know I'm rooted and "hacked" so I don't care. Time to leave Verizon because they want **** locked down as hard as possible.
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what did you say to get them to send you a different phone? Does threatening to cancel your contract early work?
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Why would they not lock down the bionic after the success they had with the x? Sales and security wise. Locking it down didn't hurt either company. A tier 3 Verizon tech told me not to be surprised if it's businessas usual. They know I'm rooted and "hacked" so I don't care. Time to leave Verizon because they want **** locked down as hard as possible.
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I agree that it is probably wishful thinking on my part, but never know, it might happen.
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what did you say to get them to send you a different phone? Does threatening to cancel your contract early work?
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I just told the tech lady that after having had 3, I was really not looking to get another one and she just gave it to me, no ifs, ands, or buts. They've already offered to send me an X because of the Inc trouble, but I said I'd give the Inc one more shot, so tomorrow is HTC's last chance to redeem themselves in my eyes.
Hit or miss again... my husband tried it with Verizon and the rep told him Quote: "go ahead." there was no help at all, no "You've been such loyal customer for 10+ years... what can we do to help?", no "Sorry to see you go." nothing, just a basic "Ba-bye!" He is now with Sprint and so far very happy.
This one works! Only problem I've found with it so far is an unexplained lagginess while on the charger, but that I can live with. I wouldn't have had a problem leaving Verizon for Sprint over this issue, it would've been completely unacceptable for them to leave me hanging after all the issues I've had with them, and I would've gladly taken my money elsewhere.
So a couple weeks ago I picked up a new Galaxy Nexus and while it's a great phone I'm not totally satisfied with it.
I was going to go in and swap it for a rezound to play around with it a bit.
Now if I unlock it when I get it and decide to return it will I have any problems or should I be alright as long as I relock it?
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So a couple weeks ago I picked up a new Galaxy Nexus and while it's a great phone I'm not totally satisfied with it.
I was going to go in and swap it for a rezound to play around with it a bit.
Now if I unlock it when I get it and decide to return it will I have any problems or should I be alright as long as I relock it?
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You will have a problem if one of Verizon's tech's notices the unlocks...that's about it.
If they are anything like Sprint, you won't have an issue. It doesn't void your warranty.
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MrSmith317 said:
You will have a problem if one of Verizon's tech's notices the unlocks...that's about it.
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So even if relocked there is still a way to see it had been unlocked? Is it pretty obvious or do they have to be looking for something?
If I relock my nexus there is no way for them to see that right?
IT'LL SAY RELOCKED.
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But for the most part I wouldn't worry to much I've sent back probably 10 rooted without stock phones back and never said anything. But I've also called and didn't go there. Only my Eris was getting real hot no matter what I tried and when I went down there I forgot to put it back to stock and the guy still warranty the phone. He was amused I took it in like that but he did the warranty and when the phone came I sent that one back and never had a problem.
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Nevermind I thought you were talking about the Rezound.
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If you return the Nexus for the rezound, they won't let you exchange again for another device.
brisdaddy1207 said:
But for the most part I wouldn't worry to much I've sent back probably 10 rooted without stock phones back and never said anything. But I've also called and didn't go there. Only my Eris was getting real hot no matter what I tried and when I went down there I forgot to put it back to stock and the guy still warranty the phone. He was amused I took it in like that but he did the warranty and when the phone came I sent that one back and never had a problem.
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You are exactly why....like the poster child of why Verizon is locking bootoaders. Good job!
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If you return the Nexus for the rezound, they won't let you exchange again for another device.
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They only let you swap a phone once? What if I just return it?
wil2bm said:
They only let you swap a phone once? What if I just return it?
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Same thing. You get only ONE exchange for a different device with the upgrade you use.
If your opening a new line take a phone back and exchange it for the same phone then what? Or exchange it for another phone
I used an available upgrade on my account... I thought there was an amount of time you were given to where you could return the device/void the contract renewal?
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I used an available upgrade on my account... I thought there was an amount of time you were given to where you could return the device/void the contract renewal?
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there is, but you can only do it once.
nrfitchett4 said:
there is, but you can only do it once.
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This isn't right. You can swap once WITHOUT a restocking fee. After that, you can still return the device and buy a new one, but they will charge you a restocking fee.
I just upgrade recently and bought a Nexus. Didn't like it and got a Rezound. I was charged a restocking fee, doesn't matter if its your first time or not. The only real way to waive the restocking fee is if something is a matter with your phone, hardware wise, if it's cosmetic (don't like the color) they wont help you.
Oh about returning a rooted phone, they will never check. I just returned my Rezound yesterday b/c of the pink buttons and I got a new one. They didn't even check what I did to the phone, they didnt even check the phone at all, they just put it in a box, put a shipping label on it and that was it. 90 percent of VZW CSR don't even know what to look for or even know what rooting is. Maybe I lucked out with the store I went to but the employees there, wow, I don't know how the get jobs, they don't know a lick about phones.
drynyks said:
You are exactly why....like the poster child of why Verizon is locking bootoaders. Good job!
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Is there a need to bash people and act like a little 4 year old say it was you not me. Come on grow up act like a man or women not blaming people your whole life.
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bal1985 said:
I just upgrade recently and bought a Nexus. Didn't like it and got a Rezound. I was charged a restocking fee, doesn't matter if its your first time or not. The only real way to waive the restocking fee is if something is a matter with your phone, hardware wise, if it's cosmetic (don't like the color) they wont help you.
Oh about returning a rooted phone, they will never check. I just returned my Rezound yesterday b/c of the pink buttons and I got a new one. They didn't even check what I did to the phone, they didnt even check the phone at all, they just put it in a box, put a shipping label on it and that was it. 90 percent of VZW CSR don't even know what to look for or even know what rooting is. Maybe I lucked out with the store I went to but the employees there, wow, I don't know how the get jobs, they don't know a lick about phones.
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Actually, they may check it, just not at the store you return it to.(wherever they send it to) I had it happen to me on an old WM phone and they tried to whack me full price of the new phone two months later... but I agree that its unlikely. If they checked every phone that got returned, nothing would get done and backlog refurbs.
will i have to UNroot my evo to have it replaced by asurion? im with sprint.
romaire said:
will i have to UNroot my evo to have it replaced by asurion? im with sprint.
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No. They dont care.. If your worried just run over it with your car before you send it back. Doesnt matter. They still getting your old device and your still paying your deductible.
How can I fully BRICK my evo 3d?
because it has many problems and sprint doent exchzange it for me.
Thats why if I brick it, I can say it didnt work from the time I got the update and they will change it
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daviddem said:
How can I fully BRICK my evo 3d?
because it has many problems and sprint doent exchzange it for me.
Thats why if I brick it, I can say it didnt work from the time I got the update and they will change it
Your answer appreciated
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Put it under water or hit it with a hammer, I'm pretty sure one of those will do the trick, then pay $100 to get a new one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1652448
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Bricking your phone on purpose will not get you a new one from sprint. They will just turn you to insurance. And bricking your phone to get a new one from insurance is insurance fraud, and is illegal.
I was about to say, just do . . . nvm, beat me to it.
lol.
Bricking your phone on purpose will not get you a new one from sprint. They will just turn you to insurance. And bricking your phone to get a new one from insurance is insurance fraud, and is illegal.
~sitlet
No, not insurance fraud, insurance is for if you break the phones screen or drop it in water, this is more like warranty fraud, in which case still isn't morally correct however, if your stuck with vmv you might just think about it.
PS: Bricking my phone on purpose did get me a phone from sprint . . . but not for $100, for $35 . . .
It's worth a try. Tell us how it goes.
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It's worth a try. Tell us how it goes.
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Just getting it out there that it went just fine for me, getting me new/referb soon.
Just got my refurbished phone, ready to work on it.
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Just wipe the partitions, it won't boot after that. Use engineering hboot 1.04 (if you're not on 1.50) Or you will have to brick the phone anyways. LOL
I'm not on T-Mobile just sharing some news since it involves HTC.
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/05/htc-amaze-4g-t-mobile-com-orders-delayed-due-to-htc-patent-battle/
via Infected 3D.
At least it shows there's still hope for the amaze..
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Called tmobile today to do a warranty exchange... They told me they had plenty phones left....
mymomma8 said:
Called tmobile today to do a warranty exchange... They told me they had plenty phones left....
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Of course they do. A warranty exchange is mostly refurbished and like new phones. They are not new phones.
They dont have any new phones right now.
ITALIANNYC said:
Of course they do. A warranty exchange is mostly refurbished and like new phones. They are not new phones.
They dont have any new phones right now.
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True... So does that mean that if i make a lost phone claim with assurion (tmobile's insurance company) they will not be able to get me an amaze and therefore would have to pick a new phone of equal value, persay, the Samsung galaxy s2?
I am aware that assurion always send a brand new phone with box and everything when phone is claimed lost, unlike the refurbished ones you sometimes get when you claim your phone damaged
There's another article that prevents htc from selling the HTC one X Due to legal battles with Apple that we're just announced today..
Pretty big blow to htc today as far as that's concerned
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True... So does that mean that if i make a lost phone claim with assurion (tmobile's insurance company) they will not be able to get me an amaze and therefore would have to pick a new phone of equal value, persay, the Samsung galaxy s2?
I am aware that assurion always send a brand new phone with box and everything when phone is claimed lost, unlike the refurbished ones you sometimes get when you claim your phone damaged
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I dont even think assurion sends you a new phone either. They are all like new or refurbished. Now your other question, I would personally assume that you should be able to get the next phone HTC has out, which would be the ONE s, but I doubt they would do that. Honest answer, I would assume if T-Mobile had no phones to send you, or assurion, I would think they would send either HTC radar, or more likely, the my touch 4g slide. Both of which I would not want and are downgrades.
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I dont even think assurion sends you a new phone either. They are all like new or refurbished. Now your other question, I would personally assume that you should be able to get the next phone HTC has out, which would be the ONE s, but I doubt they would do that. Honest answer, I would assume if T-Mobile had no phones to send you, or assurion, I would think they would send either HTC radar, or more likely, the my touch 4g slide. Both of which I would not want and are downgrades.
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I highly doubt they would send him a windows phone. Now a mytouch slide, maybe. The slide isn't a bad phone, actually very nice. Just heavy/bulky due to the slide out keyboard.
If anything and no Amaze, I'd think a S2 would be shipped out.
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asurion sent me a brand new phone in the box with headphones/charger/cable etc when I made a claim. That was back in november though, I'm sure as stock goes down they send out different stock, ie refurb. or trade ins etc.
and when you make a claim, you still pay a 'deductible' of sorts. With telus I had to pay 150 for the replacement, and considering the markup on phones, they still make money on every claim. Look at a $400 laptop, you think the amaze costs more to build then that? these phones are dirt cheap to make, with huge profit margins.
Have you seen what HTC stock is worth? needless to say, they're doing well
They sent you headphones? That's my biggest gripe with this phone is no headphones
Assurion isn't just TMobile it's also att and they send refurbs. When my g2 went out the only thing they offered was that dumbass sidekick...uh no thanks
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andy55 said:
asurion sent me a brand new phone in the box with headphones/charger/cable etc when I made a claim. That was back in november though, I'm sure as stock goes down they send out different stock, ie refurb. or trade ins etc.
and when you make a claim, you still pay a 'deductible' of sorts. With telus I had to pay 150 for the replacement, and considering the markup on phones, they still make money on every claim. Look at a $400 laptop, you think the amaze costs more to build then that? these phones are dirt cheap to make, with huge profit margins.
Have you seen what HTC stock is worth? needless to say, they're doing well
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When I made a claim for a broken HD2 very close to the release of the HD2 Asurion sent me a brand new unit in the box with everything, as described above. I'm sure in that time period when a phone model is very new they just don't have refubs available yet. After a few weeks they start to build up an inventory.
Rob
I did a claim on my Cliq and got the Sidekick 4G for my daughter. It was brand new even included a new Sim card... however if they did not have the Amaze if I were to put in a claim I would not want a sidekick LOL
I did a claim with assurion when my htc sensation screen broke back in January. They told me the htc sensation was out of stock and they sent me a refurbish htc amaze. It was crap !! Kept power cycling and finally refused to power on yesterday morning. I called and got really upset because the t Mobile rep was speaking to me like I was stupid so I asked for a supervisor and they sent me a new white amaze in the box with everything. Was really surprised that I got it today at noon. I usually don't get angry and I didn't even ask for a new phone.I actually said I want a refurb that actually works.
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I did a claim with assurion when my htc sensation screen broke back in January. They told me the htc sensation was out of stock and they sent me a refurbish htc amaze. It was crap !! Kept power cycling and finally refused to power on yesterday morning. I called and got really upset because the t Mobile rep was speaking to me like I was stupid so I asked for a supervisor and they sent me a new white amaze in the box with everything. Was really surprised that I got it today at noon. I usually don't get angry and I didn't even ask for a new phone.I actually said I want a refurb that actually works.
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Yesterday & you got it today? So where are the 2 new Amaze's I ordered last week Tmo?
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Yesterday & you got it today? So where are the 2 new Amaze's I ordered last week Tmo?
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T-Mobile is out of stock of the Amaze. He didnt get that from T-Mobile themselves. First of all, they dont even sell the White amaze anymore. He got it from Asurion. If I were you, id call back up T-Mobile and make them give you the ONE S and make them pay the difference for them not having any left. I know they offered to do that with me last month when I first got the amaze and wanted to sent it back for a new one due to screen bleed.
Even though it was in the box and everything. I still dont think it was new. Even the refurbs come with the stick on the front of the phone etc etc. They just add the unopened accessories in the amaze box.
Even if its not new, if you cant tell a difference and its perfect, no big deal anyway lol
Guys and girls today I got cheated by T-Mobile Last week I was riding my motorcycle and my phone fell out of my pocket so I got a warranty replacement phone trough Asurion for 130 bucks. It's not too much for a new device but here comes the messed up part. I get the device and it would constantly drop signal or do random reboots with no connection at all for the next half hour and crap like that. So I went to T-Mobile and told them about my issues and they gave me a new sim card so I was like ok that will fix it but no it kept doing the same stuff. I went to T-Mobile again and they gave me another sim card and told me to contact HTC about a new back cover since it might be the antena causing all the issues. I did that got the new cover and nothing same crap all over again so I got pissed off and called T-Mobile and they agreed to exchange my phone but since the amaze is currently out of stock they offered me 2 choices: HTC sensation and Samsung exhibit 2. I wount even comment on the exhibit since its not even remotely close to any type of phone that came out at the time of the amaze even stationary phones have better statistics than that crap. For the sensation yes ok that's a great phone I had before I paid 280 bucks for my amaze. So I *****ed at them for 30 more mins and the agreed to add the Samsung galaxy s2 ****rocket to the list. Anything else was "too much of an upgrade" to be aledgeble. So I had 0 chance of getting anything good. At the end I agreed to have the galaxy and I feel really cheated. I was told to call the retention center by a friend of mine. Do you guys think that it would have an impact at the situation and what would you do?
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Call back again and ***** some more. It's your device...they, as a corporate company, should have it available. I know there are stores that carry it so its just retarded that they won't give you a brand new one.
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getrdy said:
Guys and girls today I got cheated by T-Mobile Last week I was riding my motorcycle and my phone fell out of my pocket so I got a warranty replacement phone trough Asurion for 130 bucks. It's not too much for a new device but here comes the messed up part. I get the device and it would constantly drop signal or do random reboots with no connection at all for the next half hour and crap like that. So I went to T-Mobile and told them about my issues and they gave me a new sim card so I was like ok that will fix it but no it kept doing the same stuff. I went to T-Mobile again and they gave me another sim card and told me to contact HTC about a new back cover since it might be the antena causing all the issues. I did that got the new cover and nothing same crap all over again so I got pissed off and called T-Mobile and they agreed to exchange my phone but since the amaze is currently out of stock they offered me 2 choices: HTC sensation and Samsung exhibit 2. I wount even comment on the exhibit since its not even remotely close to any type of phone that came out at the time of the amaze even stationary phones have better statistics than that crap. For the sensation yes ok that's a great phone I had before I paid 280 bucks for my amaze. So I *****ed at them for 30 more mins and the agreed to add the Samsung galaxy s2 ****rocket to the list. Anything else was "too much of an upgrade" to be aledgeble. So I had 0 chance of getting anything good. At the end I agreed to have the galaxy and I feel really cheated. I was told to call the retention center by a friend of mine. Do you guys think that it would have an impact at the situation and what would you do?
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If they were kind enough to offer you the galaxy s2 then, consider yourself lucky. This is out of there control and retention usually doesnt make offers to get you a different model that isn't already offer as an exchange. I know because I do rentention, sorry to hear you had that kind of luck with everything, its a tough situation I can't comment on the reason T-Mobile doesn't have the amaze in stock but a lot of people were affected expecting a new amaze or exchange just last week it was instock because I was gonna get one exchanged but they must be really running low.
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Guys and girls today I got cheated by T-Mobile Last week I was riding my motorcycle and my phone fell out of my pocket so I got a warranty replacement phone trough Asurion for 130 bucks. It's not too much for a new device but here comes the messed up part. I get the device and it would constantly drop signal or do random reboots with no connection at all for the next half hour and crap like that. So I went to T-Mobile and told them about my issues and they gave me a new sim card so I was like ok that will fix it but no it kept doing the same stuff. I went to T-Mobile again and they gave me another sim card and told me to contact HTC about a new back cover since it might be the antena causing all the issues. I did that got the new cover and nothing same crap all over again so I got pissed off and called T-Mobile and they agreed to exchange my phone but since the amaze is currently out of stock they offered me 2 choices: HTC sensation and Samsung exhibit 2. I wount even comment on the exhibit since its not even remotely close to any type of phone that came out at the time of the amaze even stationary phones have better statistics than that crap. For the sensation yes ok that's a great phone I had before I paid 280 bucks for my amaze. So I *****ed at them for 30 more mins and the agreed to add the Samsung galaxy s2 ****rocket to the list. Anything else was "too much of an upgrade" to be aledgeble. So I had 0 chance of getting anything good. At the end I agreed to have the galaxy and I feel really cheated. I was told to call the retention center by a friend of mine. Do you guys think that it would have an impact at the situation and what would you do?
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Don't get me wrong when I start off like this, because I AM here to help and I do completely understand how you feel but, the subject line of this is inappropriate. It's not t mobiles fault
A)there's a shortage of amazes that is completely beyond t mobile's control
B) the invoice cost of the amaze is currently $450, so offering you a phone that still carries a $600 invoice cost (still sucks because its not an amaze, cant blame you for not wanting the S2 but) ain't an unfair exchange
And C) if there's anyone to blame, its presumably apple for the customs holdup of HTC product that recently happened and is almost certainly at least a major contributer in the current Amaze inventory issue.
However... that being said. Since you accepted the order for the galaxy s 2, I'm not certain retention can help you. It did not however effect your contract in any way. I'd say once you actually receive your s2, and if you are in all fact not that happy with it, call them (dial 611 and say "cancel service'' when the automated system asks how it can help) and explain the situation. Tell them you're a diehard HTC fan and hate the S2 and that youre strongly leaning towards an Evo 4gLTE or One X and see what happens. If your contract date is indeed close to coming up, they may still offer you a bargained price on a One S, (assuming amaze inventory is still depleted then, otherwise they might be able to send you another amaze at that point).
That's all i can really say about that. Don't blame you for being upset in the least. It sucks for everyone right now. Wish I had amazes to sell for dirt cheap at my work still but they're all gone =)
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You can always go to the marketplace and trade with someone for the amaze.
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You can always go to the marketplace and trade with someone for the amaze.
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Someone would easily trade a galaxy s2 for an amaze so that is always an option.
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Call back again and ***** some more. It's your device...they, as a corporate company, should have it available. I know there are stores that carry it so its just retarded that they won't give you a brand new one.
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It's not retarded... just because there are some stores that still have the amaze (which are few and far between if you're in a major city) doesn't mean that someone over the phone in a completely different department that runs off of completely different inventory would magically have access to a retail store's inventory. They could try calling every store in the customer's area to find one. Id say that'd be reasonable and logical given the circumstances... But even then, the retail manager would have to do a $450 override which goes against the store's ability to help other customers with issues actually related to the retail channel. Sucky situation for sure.
No offense intendex, just education is all. There is a lack of inventory on the amaze. The only ones with access are the stores lucky enough to not have sold out their inventory yet.
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Call back again and ***** some more. It's your device...they, as a corporate company, should have it available. I know there are stores that carry it so its just retarded that they won't give you a brand new one.
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Calling to complain to put it in "better" words is a great way to get shut down and get crappy asistance with no solutions. The customer service people could easily just shut down and go by policy and op would get no help. Since he got a gs2 then he obviously got someone willing to help but that attitude gets people no help. To address your post while ridiculous as it is, stores carry devices for sale not for exchange and T-Mobile won't take the loss on a new unit when it should be exchanged with a refurb as per the warranty, most stores are short on them as it is, unfortunately T-Mobile can't help the reasons they can't sell the amaze at the moment and customer care has a lot of things at there disposal to try and do for op but the store will make a decision following managers orders so getting one at a store is gonna he more difficult then over the phone.
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Last time I had issues with my mt4g (my third one in a year was breaking, so I was calling to get a fourth replacement sent out) I went straight to retention and got a new mt4g sent out as a replacement but the rep was kind of a know-it-all jerk so I called back and somehow got upgraded the amaze for free(I gave the mt4g to my brother, ha). I was just nice to them and told them I wasn't happy with all the exchanges.
I was honestly shocked when they offered the amaze, but I think it was cuz I was extremely polite and kept saying I love TMobile and HTC but I wasn't happy. And prob that I've been with them for almost 15 years...haha. Anyways, I say give it a shot.
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eliasadrian said:
Last time I had issues with my mt4g (my third one in a year was breaking, so I was calling to get a fourth replacement sent out) I went straight to retention and got a new mt4g sent out as a replacement but the rep was kind of a know-it-all jerk so I called back and somehow got upgraded the amaze for free(I gave the mt4g to my brother, ha). I was just nice to them and told them I wasn't happy with all the exchanges.
I was honestly shocked when they offered the amaze, but I think it was cuz I was extremely polite and kept saying I love TMobile and HTC but I wasn't happy. And prob that I've been with them for almost 15 years...haha. Anyways, I say give it a shot.
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I got my Amaze in exchange for a faulty G2 =)
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I have manners when I speak to customer service. And I think everyone should. I just believe there is something more that a major corporation can do. I don't literally mean go in there guns blazing. Just go with a high concern and tell them you don't want any of those phones offered. You paid for the Amaze. Offered a Warranty. Opted to have Insurance. Pay for services. Why would you have to settle for something you don't want? That's all. Just my opinion.
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I wasn't disrespectful in any way during the call but I was really upset. Given the fact that I spent quite a lot of my personal time dealing with the faulty device they gave me they still made me pay 20$ for them to ship me the galaxy s2. I do understand that I'm talkin to people doing their job on the other end but they have to understand that I'm giving them my hard earned money and when they put me in a position like this ill just find some1 else to give it to. I don't think that ill be renewing my contract with them.
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I wasn't disrespectful in any way during the call but I was really upset. Given the fact that I spent quite a lot of my personal time dealing with the faulty device they gave me they still made me pay 20$ for them to ship me the galaxy s2. I do understand that I'm talkin to people doing their job on the other end but they have to understand that I'm giving them my hard earned money and when they put me in a position like this ill just find some1 else to give it to. I don't think that ill be renewing my contract with them.
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$20 is a lot easier to swallow than the $50 charged by verizon in some cases.
Besides... If you're paying $4.79 a month for insurance only you might as well get the full $7.99 package that gives your (very expensive) smartphone a lifetime warranty and makes shipments for warranty exchanges $5 and delivered over night rather than $20 for 7 business days. That's a mere 10.6 cent difference per day. Even if you had no protection at all that's still only a .26 cent per day difference. Sometimes you get the level of service you're willing to pay for
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Just trade it if you want an amaze so much. Sure someone locally has one and wants an s2.
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Just trade it if you want an amaze so much. Sure someone locally has one and wants an s2.
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I'll probablydo that once I get the device
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I wouldn't settle for those terms, none of those phones are comparable replacements, and they aren't limited by just their last invoice value - here is how I get s*%t done.
First, the only phone comparable is the HTC one x. Hardware wise it IS the only comparable phone. You can be nice and respectful while still explaining that this is NOT a fair trade. Just tell them that your insurance was able to provide you with a replacement, even if it is faulty, tmobile should be able to offer you the same phone or something that compares HARDWARE wise. Mention that you still don't like that the HTC one doesn't have a removable battery or external SD, but you'd be willing to take that rather than an amaze if they don't have it. Sound like you are reluctantly willing, not super excited and scamming them.
Here is the secret! The lowest tiers of all forms of customer support simply CANNOT do some things - but their boss can. Or their bosses boss. You aren't trying to get the guy on the bottom in trouble, you are "escalating the issue". One of the people as you go up the ranks will want to help you, especially if you say things like "I have been a customer for xx years", "most of my family is with TMO because I recommended you, so I'd like to know you'll make this right", and "if you were in this position you'd want a GOOD replacement, right? I mean I spent $600 on this phone and they are offering me blah blah.."
You aren't trying to be argumentative, you're trying to get what you deserve. You bought a $600 phone, spent at least $10 per month for insurance since then, and you want a phone at LEAST as good as what you had considering how much you've invested - and you DID bring all your friends and family to TMO, if you switch perhaps they will too? How much will NOT giving you a phone potentially effect their future profits? If your family leaves tmo, their friends leave tmo, THEIR friends.. some one higher on the food chain will see that an extra $100 loss is worth potentially saving years of thousands in profits - their boss will approve. It is what they do. If they fix your problem they know you will tell everyone you know how great tmobile is, how great they treat you as a customer.. if they do it make sure to thank them, tell them you understand the guys below them are just doing their job.. be thankful.
I've destroyed macbooks and gotten replacements with better specs(it took getting escalated to the assistant vice-president of marketing), I've genuinely made a lot of mistakes that are my fault.. but if they want your FUTURE business, they will do you right and overlook things. Someone will, you just have to put in the time/effort - if it is worth it to you.
And if you do settle then what about any accessories that was purchased? Are they willing to compensate you for those? The Amaze hasn't even been out for a year and its not a supported device? You buy a phone expecting to use it for at least a year. It's hasn't even been around that long.
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Shouldn't you be dealing with Asurion since they are the ones who did the original warranty replacement and gave you a defective unit? They almost certainly have more refurbs available so they should be able to send you another Amaze. Yes, it will be another refurb, which sucks, but that seems like what you want more than the S2.
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Your insurance should replace the phone BTW.
You had to complain to get a gs2?
They offered it to me yesterday as an exchange upfront.
Spec wise it IS a comparable replacement. They have the same exact insides. Only real difference is the camera on the amaze is a lil better and the screens. Its just not your kinda phone. You want what you want
Be lucky they offered that though. There not going to offer you a ONE S lets say, cuz its brand new.
I do agree though, they should have more amaze's to give out and its BS that they dont, BUT if they only had one phone to offer, that would be the one I would expect because at least it has teh same specs and is not a downgrade, SPEC wise.
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Your insurance should replace the phone BTW.
You had to complain to get a gs2?
They offered it to me yesterday as an exchange upfront.
Spec wise it IS a comparable replacement. Its just not your kinda phone.
Be lucky they offered that though. There not going to offer you a ONE S lets say, cuz its brand new.
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You'd be surprised what is possible when you continue to persist when others quit.. truly anything is possible when you want something bad enough.
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