I am currently rooted with Amon Ra recovery running CleanRom 4.4 with the firmware that came with the phone, not the new, leaked firmware. I have tried out the new Venasaur sense 4.0 rom and have been ready to flash some of the others to try out my question is whether I would benefit from "upgrading" to the newer leaked firmware or leaving it as is and using the patches found with almost every rom. I'm just looking for the pros and cons either way I guess and which I would benefit from the most, thanks!
if using gb firmware and radios....don't change if you're happy with the temperature and usage. 50/50 change you'll get extra heat and less usage if you upgrade
Just upgrade. It'll make your life easier. When people gush over how much the changes did to their signal, battery life, etc.. I tend to tune out, but it'll make flashing easier, and there might be some benefit.
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if using gb firmware and radios....don't change if you're happy with the temperature and usage. 50/50 change you'll get extra heat and less usage if you upgrade
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it did the opposite for me....
I usually don't notice much on firmware upgrades but moving from gb to ics firmware did make a noticeable difference. With gb I could get 4g in part of my house and it would fade in and out at work. Ics firmware gives me a consistent 4g signal at both.
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I just upgraded to the leaked firmware (RUU) this morning, and now I'm getting 4g in the warehouse where I work. I used to barely get any reception at all on the gb firmware. I'm getting about the same, maybe a little better battery life, but the heat has gone down tremendously. I'm on cleanrom due 1.4 ATM, but I want to try out team pkmn's from soon. Just gotta figure out if I can use the current 3.14 kernel with it, since it is sense 4.0.
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I just upgraded to the leaked firmware (RUU) this morning, and now I'm getting 4g in the warehouse where I work. I used to barely get any reception at all on the gb firmware. I'm getting about the same, maybe a little better battery life, but the heat has gone down tremendously. I'm on cleanrom due 1.4 ATM, but I want to try out team pkmn's from soon. Just gotta figure out if I can use the current 3.14 kernel with it, since it is sense 4.0.
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You have to use the kernel that comes with it though I believe it is based on the latest leak.
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Wanting to get some peoples opinions on if i should go ahead and flash a GB rom and GB radio? I am currently running Das BAMF 1.7 and loving it. If there is something better out there, I am wanting it lol. I always like to try new things but definitley dont want to brick my TB.
It is your phone your call. The warning thread has made it aware there is no fix for the potential bricking they mentioned and the ROM threads for GB have all the pros/cons. With that said I went back to Froyo for a couple of days and flashed GB again on Friday night. Runs great (again)
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I'll be the dude that says it. This belongs in Q&A not in development.
PIITB and go for it.
Identical thread is identical.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1104447
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I'm running CM7 GB and besides the flaky wifi and broken GPS everything is flawless. Running like a champ and no chance of the bootloop bricking.
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but definitley dont want to brick my TB.
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If you are saying this then I'd probably stay off GB for a bit until the bricking issue is resolved.
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I'm running CM7 GB and besides the flaky wifi and broken GPS everything is flawless. Running like a champ and no chance of the bootloop bricking.
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Laughing... Except for the things that don't work..... Priceless!
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Lets take the bricking issues out of the equation for a minute.
What's out there now is the sense ALPHA leak, or CM7 alpha.There are no GB ROM's out there right now completely developed for the thunderbolt. Dev's have done a great job getting these to work reasonably well considering what they have to work with. Until there is a high level release/leak we won't likely see any GB ROM's that are stable, efficient, and bug free.
Now if you are a tweaker, and are dying to see what the new features are, sure give it a shot. Other than that there really is nothing to be gained by going with GB at the moment. The Froyo ROM's are built of off completed, released code. At the moment they perform better, are more efficient, have more support, less bugs, and are stable.
Short awnser, nah...Just wait a bit until there is a better leak.
Do it.
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Lets take the bricking issues out of the equation for a minute.
What's out there now is the sense ALPHA leak, or CM7 alpha.There are no GB ROM's out there right now completely developed for the thunderbolt. Dev's have done a great job getting these to work reasonably well considering what they have to work with. Until there is a high level release/leak we won't likely see any GB ROM's that are stable, efficient, and bug free.
Now if you are a tweaker, and are dying to see what the new features are, sure give it a shot. Other than that there really is nothing to be gained by going with GB at the moment. The Froyo ROM's are built of off completed, released code. At the moment they perform better, are more efficient, have more support, less bugs, and are stable.
Short awnser, nah...Just wait a bit until there is a better leak.
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Both batter life and GPS were improved on ginger compared to froyo
The only problem with ginger is USB mounting the phone and the potential "brick"
I don't care to one hand because I have yet to se another soul say that they have a bricked device so I slightly don't believe them
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Both batter life and GPS were improved on ginger compared to froyo
The only problem with ginger is USB mounting the phone and the potential "brick"
I don't care to one hand because I have yet to se another soul say that they have a bricked device so I slightly don't believe them
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For usb mounting I believe by putting the phone into internet passthrough and allowing the drivers to install to computer...then go to disk drive it should work. lemme know if it does
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For usb mounting I believe by putting the phone into internet passthrough and allowing the drivers to install to computer...then go to disk drive it should work. lemme know if it does
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Its still a "problem" so to say because it doesn't do it automatically
It takes some effort to get adb to funcion too
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I wasnt going to go back to Froyo at first because i was loving the new features, plus i was getting reboots on froyo ever since i went to a custom ROM, when i got on GB, they stopped, but the scare got the best of me so i ran back to Froyo. I flashed the old CDMA/old LTE radio version (the 4th one on the thread) and went back to BAMF 1.6.3. Fortunately, the reboots did not return with Froyo and everything has been running great. i have thought about going back to GB, but i am going to wait until an official radio gets leaked. Only because that radio still needs some work and my battery was draining much faster than it was when i was on Froyo. So it's been nice to have the longer lasting battery back.
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Both batter life and GPS were improved on ginger compared to froyo
The only problem with ginger is USB mounting the phone and the potential "brick"
I don't care to one hand because I have yet to se another soul say that they have a bricked device so I slightly don't believe them
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You are welcome to that opinion, but many others, including myself have experienced the exact opposite with battery life. GPS was improved though.
I get about 18-30 hours on Froyo depending on use...I never topped 15 hours on GB, and the performance was worse as well.
When I had my D1 however, GB did wonders for that phone (CM7). It improved performance and battery life by leaps and bounds...I hope for those same results on the thunderbolt once better leaks/releases are available.
Edit: When speaking about thunderbolt GB battery life/performance, I am referring to the sense roms. It's been a while since I used CM7 on the TB so it's possible that is better.
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You are welcome to that opinion, but many others, including myself have experienced the exact opposite with battery life. GPS was improved though.
I get about 18-30 hours on Froyo depending on use...I never topped 15 hours on GB, and the performance was worse as well.
When I had my D1 however, GB did wonders for that phone (CM7). It improved performance and battery life by leaps and bounds...I hope for those same results on the thunderbolt once better leaks/releases are available.
Edit: When speaking about thunderbolt GB battery life/performance, I am referring to the sense roms. It's been a while since I used CM7 on the TB so it's possible that is better.
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I agree with ya. i dont see how anybody got/gets better battery life on GB right now, the drop in battery life was very evident.
Just curious what people think of the latest ROMs, what the fastest, smoothest, best looking are, etc...
Been using Scott's CleanROM ICS a lot and really like it, but was thinking to myself, that most of them seem to credit the same devs for various contributions and things... so in the end, are they all pretty much the same?
I know that if you ask a Dev they will say how theirs is different, but I would love to hear from end users who have used them all extensively, which ones they prefer and why.
I think that they are all great, but perhaps some are better in certain areas than others, and so a conversation that lays all that out might be beneficial to people who want to just to an ICS ROM, but don't know what one is right for them, and the "trial and error" process might be more than they are able to willing to tackle.
For reference, CM7 that I had on the DX is my all time favorite ROM, and it is the benchmark for me, so any ROM I go to, is to try and get as close to that experience as possible.
Thoughts?
Check out BAMF 1.1 ICS....
I've tried the others and this one has been the most stable, the most current version has great battery life as well.
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Check out BAMF 1.1 ICS....
I've tried the others and this one has been the most stable, the most current version has great battery life as well.
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Bamf is good. I also like Nils Business and Rezrom . Try them all out to see what you like.
Which one has the nicest eye candy, themes, etc?
They all seem fast and smooth, so I am sorta looking for the best UI.
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Which one has the nicest eye candy, themes, etc?
They all seem fast and smooth, so I am sorta looking for the best UI.
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Rezrom always has awesome themes. Nils too. Scotts roms are awesome but are closer to stock theme wise
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Rezrom always has awesome themes. Nils too. Scotts roms are awesome but are closer to stock theme wise
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Ok, cool, I will check that one out as well. Just ran a Nandroid backup so I guess I am ready to experiment. All of these latest versions are based off of the latest RUU, so I should not have to mess with that, or kernels for that matter, correct? Just the ROM itself, and if I don't like it, a simple Nandroid restore?
Of course I have to wipe data and cache before each install, but other than that, nothing else to do?
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Which one has the nicest eye candy, themes, etc?
They all seem fast and smooth, so I am sorta looking for the best UI.
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last i heard mike d is working on some kicka$$ themes and a ics dialer. he hasn't released them yet though.
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last i heard mike d is working on some kicka$$ themes and a ics dialer. he hasn't released them yet though.
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Cool. I am trying RezROM 3.1 right now and I do like the UI and theming, and it appears that version 3.2 is about to drop, if I read the thread correctly...
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Of course I have to wipe data and cache before each install, but other than that, nothing else to do?
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Nope. They all use the same kernel I think because kernel source isn't out. Just nandroid.
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I'm running RezROM and loving it. One of the best things about the Rezound is the list of developers. Whether it's Bored, Nils, or Scott, their ROMS are rock solid and well-supported. Other devs are excellent, too, but these 3 are the ones I look to first.
ive been running Rezrom 3.1 on old firmware with the patch and it seems very nice. only small issue ive has was it seems like ringtones want to go off the media volume and not the ringtone volume setting but i think that is being worked on for the next version.
my only concern on the current wave of roms would be whether it could run on old firmware or not.
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ive been running Rezrom 3.1 on old firmware with the patch and it seems very nice. only small issue ive has was it seems like ringtones want to go off the media volume and not the ringtone volume setting but i think that is being worked on for the next version.
my only concern on the current wave of roms would be whether it could run on old firmware or not.
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I would assume that patching the new ROMs to run on the old firmware will be phased out. It will probably be around for a little while to make it easy for those who may want to go back to GB. Since the new ICS ROMs are pretty much rock solid the only real reason anyone would want to do that is for returning their phone though. Once the official OTA comes I'm sure noone will be making the patches any more. I could be wrong though.
I kinda hope they keep making patches personally, I for one, have had no rush to get the leaked firmware, unless a ROM blows me off my feet that requires it, none have yet.
I've got a feeling that once the AOSP ROMs are working properly they will probably be built around the new firmware. The battery life improvement was worth the 20 minutes or so to do the flash for me. I assume with the patch to run the old firmware with the new ROMs the data arrows are working? Kind of a small thing, but sure is nice to have them back. LOL
Cleanrom DE is pretty nice, has an aosp feel but still has some sense parts, seems pretty smooth but I can never get any of the ics launchers as smooth as sense was
They are all great!!!
Personally I don't like running non official firmware. When HTC releases the official firmware we are probably going to have to go through the entire process again anyways. Also if HTC doesnt deem it fit for official release then i am not using it unless I am having a major issue that needs to be fixed. I wonder if the New firmware would fix my ics performance issues though
I am running ICS now as a daily driver on the old firmware. It is still a tad slower than gb performance wise for me. I have gone back and forth a couple times. I can see why people would want to stay on old firmware or gb til official ics is release. Hopefully ics performs a little better when it becomes official.
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I used to love Sense, but as time has gone on I've grown kind of sick of it, plus it takes a heavy toll on the battery and resources. So now I've been looking for something closer to AOSP. The first ROM I used was Xtreme Outcast's ROM. It was slightly themed and close to AOSP. He hasn't updated in a while so I've tried scrosler's CleanROM DE, because he's on the newest leak, and so far I really like it. It's got some Sense elements, which I still have mixed feelings on, but it's really smooth, and has improved my battery life loads.
I am still using the original ICS leak based off 4.0.1. I have put so much time into it, and have it running so nearly perfectly that I am hesitant to even bother with the more recent leaks and will probably just hold off until official ICS is out or until AOSP RIL is working.
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have it running so nearly perfectly that I am hesitant to even bother with the more recent leaks and will probably just hold off until official ICS is out or until AOSP RIL is working.
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My thoughts exactly, my setup is working completely stable so I have no issue to change until a similar situation.
I read a reply in a thread which explained that the current ICS leak runs the CPU full speed, instead of scaling it, whenever the screen is on. This was the member's explanation for why some people notice their phones running hotter than on GB.
Is this true? And to the extent that it is true, is it true of the preceding leaks as well? I guess what I'm wondering is whether this is something that HTC might be hoping to resolve before going live with an OTA.
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I read a reply in a thread which explained that the current ICS leak runs the CPU full speed, instead of scaling it, whenever the screen is on. This was the member's explanation for why some people notice their phones running hotter than on GB.
Is this true? And to the extent that it is true, is it true of the preceding leaks as well? I guess what I'm wondering is whether this is something that HTC might be hoping to resolve before going live with an OTA.
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Your guess is as good as mine and I too read that same reply. I've been trying to figure this out since the leak came out. Some people aren't having any problems and some people are having all sorts of problems. I haven't been in the Rezound thread long but I'm not new to flashing and I've been going back on forth on doing the leak or waiting for either the source for kernel help or the official ota. I was thinking maybe it was "noob" mistakes but from alot of the posts it seems that experienced flashers are having problems as well. Scott has a kernel thread in the Dev section if you wish to follow that, if you aren't already. I know that all phones are created equal and there are some built better than others. So far I've been pretty fortunate in my phones. I've never had to take a phone in for repair that I didn't eff up myself.... Obviously, I'd like to think by the time we get the official ota all things will be resolved but you never know. When I had my Evo 3D it took the latest ota to solve alot of battery issues that we had. I know I don't answer your question but I too have similar ones myself. Be well.
The current leak/kernel that is having problems is part of a release candidate, we can only hope HTC resolves it before the update is finalized. I wouldn't be surprised if another leak/release candidate shows up in the near future, each one has fixed more issues found in the earlier leaks.
jjwalter--
If I was in your shoes I would not take the leak. My phone is worse than bricked.
I can put the .11 GB kernel back on the phone with my old software, but the WIFI doesn't seem to work with the ICS radio firmware, and the thing's running hotter than ever.
I had no heat or battery life issues on the current GB -- all my problems began when I flashed the .22 leak. And as long as I'm stuck with these radios I don't think they'll get better. Your mileage may vary, but if it was up to me I wouldn't get in that car again.
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djwalter--
If I was in your shoes I would not take the leak. My phone is worse than bricked.
I can put the .11 GB kernel back on the phone with my old software, but the WIFI doesn't seem to work with the ICS radio firmware, and the thing's running hotter than ever.
I had no heat or battery life issues on the current GB -- all my problems began when I flashed the .22 leak. And as long as I'm stuck with these radios I don't think they'll get better. Your mileage may vary, but if it was up to me I wouldn't get in that car again.
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Thanks for the heads up. From past flashing experience I have never seen a leak with a radio and firmware update. It's usually just a rom. With a leak this close I'm sure the ota isn't too far off and I'll just keep hanging around and root and flash once that drops. Thanks again.
I know if I were HTC/Verizon/ATT/Motorola... I'd be leaking any new builds right here on XDA. You couldn't find a better group of knowledgeable testers anywhere. In my mind, these leaks are on purpose, and I'd also guess there will be future releases that fix the issues the group here has found.
im running the latest leaked version and i have no heat problems whatsoever. i play hd games, on youtube for hours, etc...hottest its gotten was 120 degrees thats it. im running stock. as far as im concerned GB is dead to me
My phone doesn't get hot playing games on the leak, but you put that mofo to stream some music and it about burns through my pants in class, and then half my extended battery is gone. It is definately due to the scaling issue
Yea I see a lot of people saying they have heat and reboot issue but they are the same people asking newb questions if ya wipe everything, check the md5, flash the ruu, and do it right you will not have problems 99% of the time. Don't be afraid to update just because a couple user experience problems its not like some guy in his mom's basement made this leak its a leak from google got out god knows how but still built with their algorithm, software, and knowledgeable engineers. I would update sense 3.6 is way better than 3.5 and ics has a lot more backup options and a better user experience. I recommend you do just make sure to do a backup before you do so you can revert back if need be.
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What are the across the board issues with ics at the moment on the rezound? I'm thinking about coming from the bionic/thunderbolt, no Ril and hardware acceleration, etc.
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What are the across the board issues with ics at the moment on the rezound? I'm thinking about coming from the bionic/thunderbolt, no Ril and hardware acceleration, etc.
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There aren't any for me. Runs perfectly on my phone. Everything works the way it should.
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There aren't any for me. Runs perfectly on my phone. Everything works the way it should.
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Yep, I'm with ^ Everything is running top notch for me as well.
What are the bluetooth issues mentioned in the ics rom threads? I saw it said there was one known issue, but didn't specify.
With all these new rooms and bases I have a few questions. This is my second note (stolen) my first was rooted on Saurom GB. My replacement is on stock at the moment. I am Contemplating waiting until the official att update comes out for ICS.
If I root I lose the Att OTA update unless I flash back.
On an ICS rom at this time there is no S Pen support correct?
What's the difference between all these radios? It sounds like the modem may work better under some.
Is battery life better or worse proven?
Thanks.
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With all these new rooms and bases I have a few questions. This is my second note (stolen) my first was rooted on Saurom GB. My replacement is on stock at the moment. I am Contemplating waiting until the official att update comes out for ICS.
If I root I lose the Att OTA update unless I flash back.
On an ICS rom at this time there is no S Pen support correct?
What's the difference between all these radios? It sounds like the modem may work better under some.
Is battery life better or worse proven?
Thanks.
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If you root, you Wont lose OTA updates...only if you flash the leaked ICS. BUT when it does officially release, you can flash back to stock and update it. No biggie.
S Pen is fully supported on the ICS leaks. On SOME Roms however, might not fully support it.
The radios....because some people got better reception on gingerbread and some people are on Tmobile using the AT&T Note. Therefore the different modems to flash.
Ah....the battery life question, this has been the number one question ever since the Note came out. Simple as this....some people claim better battery life, some claimed worse. Some claimed about the same. So theres really not a straight answer for it. In my experience, on ucle2 ics leak, battery was better than the ucld5 and ucld3 leaks.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
I'm debating or no to update from JB to KK. The JB seems to be running sluggish lately. I remember when the NAB KK update came out many people had too many issue but how is the NC5 update?? how is battery life? performance? what are the biggest advantages
my jb was sluggish today so I just re flashed the original Rom. stable and fast again. ymmv.
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Kk sucks compared to jb. And the radios suck more too.
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Kk sucks compared to jb. And the radios suck more too.
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You can't go back to JB, but you can use a JB radio with KK.
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You can't go back to JB, but you can use a JB radio with KK.
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Yea I'm aware of that and I did it to my other note 3 a few days ago. Signal was better but at expense of more battery drain. Also my text and call hardware radio died. So I had to replace it. Not sure of related. But the NC5 radio is better then NAB radio. I also always had better battery life with JB.
I had a hard time getting used to the specifics because kit kat will not let you flash anything unless it matches the kernel or goes in order of creation. But even though it seem harder it's worth the trouble it's a lot more stable than any other Android biulds. And you can figure out how to unlock wife and change your radios and customize all that
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I had a hard time getting used to the specifics because kit kat will not let you flash anything unless it matches the kernel or goes in order of creation. But even though it seem harder it's worth the trouble it's a lot more stable than any other Android biulds. And you can figure out how to unlock wife and change your radios and customize all that
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This unlocking wife seems interesting. Do you have to beat a certain level or is it automatic.