.....So, the LG Viper does SVDO (Simultaneous 1X/3G voice/data) and according to reports, the EVO LTE also supports this. How great would it be if this phone, like the LG Viper, had it working out of box?!
Even more of a reason that I'm getting one.
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.....So, the LG Viper does SVDO (Simultaneous 1X/3G voice/data) and according to reports, the EVO LTE also supports this. How great would it be if this phone, like the LG Viper, had it working out of box?!
Even more of a reason that I'm getting one.
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Links to these reports bud?
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I didn't think CDMA could handle this. Would be great and cut down on my wish for GSM but still. LTE will allow this anyways from what I remember.
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I didn't think CDMA could handle this. Would be great and cut down on my wish for GSM but still. LTE will allow this anyways from what I remember.
Will
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I didn't realize people didn't know this yet. If you read the FCC docs posted last month the lab tests showed it. It's not so much a CDMA thing as it is a phone/hardware thing. You can Google it to find out more. And correct you can do simultaneous voice/data with LTE the same way you could with WiMAX or WiFi.
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But he is talking about doing a voice call and 3g at the same time if I am correct....
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But he is talking about doing a voice call and 3g at the same time if I am correct....
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Yes, sorry if my post is confusing. It's responding to two parts of the same comment.
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Here http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/entry-159-htc-evo-4g-lte-tech-details-revealed-in-fcc-oet-filing/
That is game changing if it works...
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I didn't think CDMA could handle this. Would be great and cut down on my wish for GSM but still. LTE will allow this anyways from what I remember.
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The HTC Thunderbolt on Verizon has been able to do this for a while now, but only in select cities that had their towers upgraded to support it.
Yeah, I know the phone supports it, lets just hope sprint allows it!!
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That is game changing if it works...
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Exactly, I just hope Sprint is very bullish with OEMs making their phones SVDO capable. They will have two phones with Viper and Evo 4G LTE. Hopefully all of their LTE phones going forward will be both SVDO and SVLTE capable. AT&T will no longer be able to run those commercials bragging about using data while on a phone call.
Btw glad to see you here.
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Yeah, I know the phone supports it, lets just hope sprint allows it!!
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Well as stated the LG Viper supports it as well. SVDO isn't really new, it's just now being implimented in our phones. So it's safe to say that Sprint is allowing for it since they had the OEM include it as well as it was tested in the lab.
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Exactly, I just hope Sprint is very bullish with OEMs making their phones SVDO capable. They will have two phones with Viper and Evo 4G LTE. Hopefully all of their LTE phones going forward will be both SVDO and SVLTE capable. AT&T will no longer be able to run those commercials bragging about using data while on a phone call.
Btw glad to see you here.
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Well as stated the LG Viper supports it as well. SVDO isn't really new, it's just now being implimented in our phones. So it's safe to say that Sprint is allowing for it since they had the OEM include it as well as it was tested in the lab.
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I think I've been hoping for SVDO just as long as I've been hoping for EVDO-Rev B. And this was pre-EVO.
That's one down, the other may never happen, which is ok.
This would be an awesome feature, not that I would use it all the time but have at least wanted it for years.
Finally! Now I can actually talk on bluetooth while using my phone at the same time. Before I had to use that ****ty company issued T-Mobile MiFi...
This may sounds really ignorant, but why would this be beneficial? I've never yearned for this feature, and now I can't think of a time I'd need it honestly. Examples?
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This may sounds really ignorant, but why would this be beneficial? I've never yearned for this feature, and now I can't think of a time I'd need it honestly. Examples?
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If you're in an hour long call while on a bus/car/train or whatever, and you're using a bluetooth headset or earpiece, this is VERY useful. I travel a lot so I find myself in this situation a lot.
And it's good for pretty much just about any bluetooth situation. If you're talking and want to use the internet on your phone, you're ****ed.
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If you're in an hour long call while on a bus/car/train or whatever, and you're using a bluetooth headset or earpiece, this is VERY useful. I travel a lot so I find myself in this situation a lot.
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I guess I don't find myself in many hour long calls, which is why I didn't think of this. Thank you though!
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I guess I don't find myself in many hour long calls, which is why I didn't think of this. Thank you though!
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Yeah, they don't have to be that long, it's just if you're trying to have a convo on the phone and want to use 3G, it's good.
I guess it doesn't appeal to that many people, but it's still a great feature to have nonetheless
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Yeah, they don't have to be that long, it's just if you're trying to have a convo on the phone and want to use 3G, it's good.
I guess it doesn't appeal to that many people, but it's still a great feature to have nonetheless
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Hey, I'm all for extra features! Some things I may never have used (due to an inability to do so) may now begin to be used by me since I'll have the ability.
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Hey, I'm all for extra features! Some things I may never have used (due to an inability to do so) may now begin to be used by me since I'll have the ability.
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Same thing happened to me with AOSP --> Sense ROMs. When I first got my Evo 3D, I loaded an AOSP ROM and 4G was broken. I never really knew much about 4G since I never (literally never) used it before. After switching back to Sense with working 4G and trying it out, although spotty, now I can't live without it
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Ok, totally nervous and anxious noob here. I had a question about the capabilities of the modem in this phone. My coworker has a captivate, and he told me all about the stuff you do here, and how he upgraded his modem to 4g. Is the vzw variant capable of the same? I've been reading the threads for a few weeks now, trying to figure out what to get, and now I'm just confused with the whole process, but that's a topic for another day.
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No.
The captivate can do HSPA which is all of the sudden be marketed as 4G (as HSPA+) but only up to the device limit of 7M.
That is one of ATT/TMO's ways of saying 4G.
VZN is using LTE which is different from their current CDMA#K which means phones can not take advantage of it.
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Yeah, no. The "4G" he is talking about is not really 4G. It's a fake 4G.
http://www.technobuffalo.com/comparisons/htc-inspire-4g-vs-htc-thunderbolt-4g-speed-test/
but wait......i thought if you put 4g icons in your theme....then it unlocked that super secret lte radio that came with the fascinate!?!?!
Thanks for the info.
Brownie points for Big Red...NOT.
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Thanks for the info.
Brownie points for Big Red...NOT.
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So now you are discrediting VZW because they use a different technology than AT&T and bought a phone that is working as advertised?
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Thanks for the info.
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Its not really 4G, the phone works fine and as intended. If you want 4g, then go get a 4g phone from verizon(who has the best 4g network at the moment, forget ATT's crap)
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So now you are discrediting VZW because they use a different technology than AT&T and bought a phone that is working as advertised?
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Hahahah, this. +1
HSPA and LTE are different tech, just like CDMA#k and HSPA. HSPA has the same speed capability as LTE but the drasticly different delivery mechanism makes it a loser for these kind of tests.
LTE is the true future tech even though it doesn't meet 4G guidelines. Future HSPA evolutions are just going to be like new and improved satellite TDMA systems.... larger pipe for more terminals... but dont ldt ths customer know how many terminals there are.
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Musicmaster said:
So now you are discrediting VZW because they use a different technology than AT&T and bought a phone that is working as advertised?
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If I had my choice, I would've gone with AT&T for numerous reasons, but given my circumstance, VZW was my only option. Big Red has a track record of making things difficult for the end user (like upgrading phones). I love this phone, and the service is good, but it's a bit discouraging that I'll have to wait 2 years to get a faster phone when this one has capable hardware being held back by them.
Sorry for the rant. Basically, I'm anxiously awaiting the day when I can cut the bloat and let this thing fly. Keep up the awesome work, and I'll keep reading until I get all the pieces together.
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The captivate doesn't do 4g..the guy just has a theme that changed his icon to show 4g when he still has 3g. And neither phone has the hardware to run 4g.
At&t has **** for service...hence the REAL reason iPhone is with vzw now. I will never pay for at&t again.
This article mentions that data during phone calls will work on the EVO 3D, true or false?
http://www.mytechsecrets.com/htc-evo-3d-android-phone-–-coming-soon/
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Same way that the evo does data while on the phone. Only if you are on 4g or wifi
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Thanks for clearing that up
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aimbdd said:
Same way that the evo does data while on the phone. Only if you are on 4g or wifi
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Quote from the article---> "Will have simultaneous voice and data capabilities; while in 3G/4G or Wi-Fi coverage areas, the EVO 3D will allow web surfing while on the phone"
According to this quote the phone CAN do simultaneous voice and data on 3G. I have a buddy that claims his kyocera echo can do this as well on 3G. I'm hoping it can althought I didnt think it was possible for CDMA to do it on 3G.
The Thunder bolt does 3g/voice at the same time
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There may be hope for the E3D then
This is one of the reasons I'm excited about this phone. One of the articles I read a month or so ago had technical details on how it worked. It was some extension to CDMA or something along those lines. It's about time!
i wonder why a bigger deal isnt being made of this.
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i wonder why a bigger deal isnt being made of this.
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Because it was all speculation but they just sent it to the fcc so now its confirmed
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This phone doesn't have those capabilities. Thunderbolt's LTE MDM9600 have SVDO support, while the EVO's MSM8660 doesn't. 4G/Wi-Fi only.
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buddy that claims his kyocera echo can do this as well on 3G. .
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whoa, pinch me; someone actually bought an echo?
LOL
Thanks for the opinions. Im trying to decide on my purchase and don't want to be disappointed, never had a CDMA phone before.
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whoa, pinch me; someone actually bought an echo?
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That's the same thing I was wondering LOL!
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I would absolutely love to hear how many units of the echo have been sold. Especially considering that they wasted money and time having that stupid "Industry First" event with David Blane.
Stunts like that are the reason why my friends think Sprint is crap
I have seen a few posts that Sprint's network is technically capable, like Verizon, of simultaneous voice and data but that Sprint specifically does not (or hasn't yet) enabled this functionality.
That is pretty disappointing. Shame on you Sprint. You would think that every carrier would have the function since AT&T used to brag so heavily about how the iphone could do it. I also read that only maybe half of the new EVOs UI will make use of the 3D effect. We'll know soon enough
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DCLocal said:
I have seen a few posts that Sprint's network is technically capable, like Verizon, of simultaneous voice and data but that Sprint specifically does not (or hasn't yet) enabled this functionality.
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Not entirelly true there. They have some build out to do and more importantly our devices don't have the required chip to allow it.
see this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14300011&postcount=63
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whoa, pinch me; someone actually bought an echo?
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That's the same thing I was wondering LOL!
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Yeah.....my buddy is a true phone addict like I have never seen before. He gets a new phone like once a month!! He has soo many phones on his hip(active phones) it looks like a batman utility belt...lol. And for the first time ever in his life he is sorry about getting a phone.....the kyocera phone. I think it really "hit" him when he saw how much radio shack would give him for it when he trades it in for the evo 3d. The phone is only a couple of months old......paid a couple hundred for it and the trade in value is like 75 bucks or something. A true phone addict....all his money goes to sneakers.....phones.....phone accessories....and food. And occasionally child support....lol.
http://www.phonescoop.com/news/item.php?n=8261
Sprint is primed for major network improvement it seems
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Just got off phone with Motorola and they confirmed the Photon has a LTE chip installed! I called sprint and they said it didn't. Somebodies lying, my bet is sprint.
My guess is that the Motorola rep is confusing that for 4G in general. I highly doubt the Photon has LTE.
Now, I certainly wouldn't be disappointed if it does, but I imagine that would have been in the FCC certification.
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I bet Motorola is lying... Because they want you to buy their product.
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I highly doubt this, but my buddy works at the mobile division in Libertyville IL (My town! Woot woot Google! ) and he works on the development of the LED flash for all the phones cameras. Im sure he will have insight about this, ill post back what he says.
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i'm too lazy to search youtube, has anyone done a teardown of this phone yet? I mean its not magic, if there is a LTE chip inside you'd see it. Granted I'm not willing to doante my phone to such a process but I mean phones break, you'd think someone who broke their Photon had to have tore it apart by now to see its guts.
I doubt they would have added an expensive piece of hardware just for the heck of it. The fact that it isn't touted as a feature to"future proof" the phone leads me to assume it isn't there.
The build.prop in system has alot of refrences to an LTE radio...but then again it has quite a few refrences to VZW as well....
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The build.prop in system has alot of refrences to an LTE radio...but then again it has quite a few refrences to VZW as well....
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They probably just took the Atrix, redid the outer shell, modified code to work with Sprint, then threw it on the shelf.
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They probably just took the Atrix, redid the outer shell, modified code to work with Sprint, then threw it on the shelf.
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The hole in that thought is the matrix is on ATT(GSM) which is different from VZW in more ways then one.
The VZW references is due to the you can roam in VZW and a possible launch of the phone on VZW.
It seems that this phone has a lot of Q's surronding the radio freq's it uses so we are going to need to find a good tear down and look to that for answers.
Ok so in case people didn't know, LTE uses sim cards for the 4G. But it can't be in the photon, sprint wont have it for some time.
My buddy at Motorola replied to me "wimax". So I guess its not LTE ready and that moto rep is misunderstanding that sprints 4g is different. After all, this is the first moto android phone on sprint
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Who cares though...by the time Sprint uses LTE the MoPho will be obsolete and something different will be in your hands.....
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Who cares though...by the time Sprint uses LTE the MoPho will be obsolete and something different will be in your hands.....
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Amen to that
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What about us Sprint users roaming data using Verizon's LTE network. Now wouldn't that be sweet? Just dreaming out loud! lol
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i'm too lazy to search youtube, has anyone done a teardown of this phone yet? I mean its not magic, if there is a LTE chip inside you'd see it. Granted I'm not willing to doante my phone to such a process but I mean phones break, you'd think someone who broke their Photon had to have tore it apart by now to see its guts.
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http://androidforums.com/motorola-photon-4g/398558-video-teardown-photon-4g.html
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http://androidforums.com/motorola-photon-4g/398558-video-teardown-photon-4g.html
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All I can say is the Photon is Built like a brick shi%house
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What about us Sprint users roaming data using Verizon's LTE network. Now wouldn't that be sweet? Just dreaming out loud! lol
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If that's the case why aren't you on Verizon?
Plug the photon in and look in device manager, it has an LTE modem period. There is no argument here, find it for yourself. Sprint will have LTE but not for awhile, as for the Photon working on it, who knows, but I am damn sure that it is capable of it. If you are asking a Sprint Rep any questions about a phone, 97.38782% of them don't know much about them, yes there are a few who actually do their homework on each and every phone they come across but that is few and far between. ( And in case you work at Sprint and you are reading this, don't take it personal, I'm just saying that most reps sell phones, they don't study them and know them inside and out) As for Motorola, who knows, it all depends on who you talk to, but I would believe one of them over a random Sprint rep who 'sells' phones for a living, being that Motorola actually built the thing.
But all you really need to do is plug it in and look for yourself.
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Plug the photon in and look in device manager, it has an LTE modem period.
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Now that is interesting indeed
It just might have a LTE radio. Maybe Sprint's plans are starting to show up in current and future phones? Here is an excerpt:
If Sprint were to tap into Clearwire’s LTE network it wouldn’t gain any additional coverage beyond its current 4G footprint. It would gain additional capacity, but it would come at a price. Since Clearwire’s LTE wouldn’t even cover existing WiMAX markets completely, Sprint will need to deploy dual-mode WiMAX and LTE devices. That’s already a tall order for device makers, but Clearwire is using an unpaired spectrum configuration for LTE, meaning Sprint will need LTE chips not only for Clearwire’s 2.5 GHz frequencies but in a time-division duplexing (TDD) mode that no other operator uses in the U.S.
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You can read the whole article here: http://connectedplanetonline.com/3g4g/news/sprints-4g-predicament-0823/index.html
Maybe Sprint actually has a 4g plan?
Djspinister said:
Plug the photon in and look in device manager, it has an LTE modem period.
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There may be some logic to this from Moto perspective...
It 4g and it a world phone...it suports cdma and gsm...
But is it also the first "4g" "world phone"? having both wimax and LTE ?(you got the sim like verzion LTE phones need)
So for Moto one hardward build for all world markets...and would also make it one hell of a development phone for google android to test everything on
Would the EVO 3d and Samsung Galaxy 2 people crap if true....
A phone with all these radios cdma, gsm, wimax and LTE would be hacker heaven
Who knows could be source of unlocked 4g issues that just the Photon seem to have ... that bootstrap has an extra radio to set up
===One other thing I recall Sprints Touch pro 2 "world phone" was not certified for GSM by FCC for US so radios were not listed on FCC doc...but it had them
Other thing in all the Photon "tear down" ive seen...ive never seen the chips because of how the lable sits in the battey compartment covers the chips...you would need to destroy the phone to see
im hearing 05/18 for the new evo LTE....will it be as big as evo 4g when it first came out??
Physically? Bigger, lol... But if you mean public attention, no. I'm sure nothing ever will be since the EVO was the first 4G phone.
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im hearing 05/18 for the new evo LTE....will it be as big as evo 4g when it first came out??
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Well...thanks for starting a new thread on something that there is already multiple threads on:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1645450
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1643083
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1641153
Also, to answer your question....no...it won't. It is not a game changer like the Evo 4G was.
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Well...thanks for starting a new thread on something that there is already multiple threads on:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1645450
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1643083
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1641153
Also, to answer your question....no...it won't. It is not a game changer like the Evo 4G was.
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LOL, ummm sorry but that is just your opinion. You really have no idea how its gonna sell.
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LOL, ummm sorry but that is just your opinion. You really have no idea how its gonna sell.
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You are right...and thanks for pointing that out that I have no idea. The OP asked and I gave my opinion as there is no way to know for sure so everybody that replys to the OP will be giving their opinion. I guess you will be pointing that out to them as well?
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You are right...and thanks for pointing that out that I have no idea. The OP asked and I gave my opinion as there is no way to know for sure so everybody that replys to the OP will be giving their opinion. I guess you will be pointing that out to them as well?
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Yea, but your statement was worded as if its fact. See the difference?
Wow, this thread isn't locked yet? In before it gets the hammer.
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Yea, but your statement was worded as if its fact. See the difference?
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Nope
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It will not be as big as the OG 4G. As stated above, it's not a game changer, and the same (very similar) device is available on most other carriers. Not to mention the fact that there is NO lte right now, and sprint's 3g is slower than AOL dial-up.
Hi. Just posting some non sense to release some anger I have towards Virgin Mobile right now.
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I think the Lte will be as big as the OG, mostly because of the "updated" camera HTC is throwing out there now...but I'm waiting til Dallas actually has LTE, which probably won't be long...
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I doubt it will be as big as the OG Evo. We're in a different time than we were 2 years ago. Sprint was the first carrier with 4G running on an Android OS. 3G was a lot faster then. Now you have the selling point of LTE..well LTE isn't even on in the test markets while other carriers are already up and running on LTE or something similar they call 4G while Sprint's 3G is sloooooooooow. I'm usually day 1 with flagship phones but not this time. I'll get one or the newest hotness once the LTE roadmap has my city on it.
Those thank yous were a mistake. Had to hide my phone I'm at work. I'm definitely getting the LTE no matter what.
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I don't think it will be as big. People were hyped about the EVO 4G, and now here a LOT of us sit, with our 2nd WiMAX capable phone..without ever being able to use WiMAX. There is no way people are gonna trust Sprint to deliver them LTE in their area during the time that they keep the phone...especially when other carriers are now offering much better 4G. Competition kills it..the EVO 4G had no competition.
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According to good and evo the lte has much better 3g speeds. Also you can do talk and 3g at the same time. I thought this was positive news for those of us on the fence. Sorry if this is old news, http://www.goodandevo.net/2012/05/y...-and-3g-data-works-on-the-htc-evo-4g-lte.html
I think there's a thread already about this but I'm uncertain if it was ever confirmed, I will say this is great news though! I like the idea of being able to be on my phone and use data at the same time.
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this is the thread I alluded to earlier; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1653145
The section that i'm impressed with is where he describes 3g speeds as being much better. If it turns out to be true, when and where on the lte rollout talk really doesn't matter. I can survive with just ok 3g. Pathetic 3g is another thing. Lets hope for the best.
That's awesome...I'm glad this feature works right out of the box. I can't wait to get my hands on this phone.
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According to the ready now guide posted earlier this morning SVDO will not be supported on the Evo.
Sebrina said:
According to the ready now guide posted earlier this morning SVDO will not be supported on the Evo.
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i read not supported but it is there to use. meaning dont call for help lol
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i read not supported but it is there to use. meaning dont call for help lol
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Exactly.
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