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Wow... really good review.
8 hours of HEAVY use, full brightness, with 25% battery remaining... I'd say that's pretty encouraging.
Phonearena: "This is an amazing phone. Definitely the best android phone out there and probably the best smart phone right now."
What's with the mixed reviews regarding the camera? Were their expectations too high?
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What's with the mixed reviews regarding the camera? Were their expectations too high?
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I think more or less, people are starting to expect smart phones to be a point and shoot replacement, and therefor are disappointed when the camera still produces cell phone quality pictures. So yes, expectations are really high. But, I feel that anyone's expectations are totally reasonable in thinking that this camera will likely be the best camera you've had on any cell phone you've owned.
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Wow... really good review.
8 hours of HEAVY use, full brightness, with 25% battery remaining... I'd say that's pretty encouraging.
Phonearena: "This is an amazing phone. Definitely the best android phone out there and probably the best smart phone right now."
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He said "good, solid use" in the written article.
Too bad that's an entirely subjective phrasing. One man's heavy use is another man's light use.
I can't believe these professional reviewers still haven't figure out that they need to give percentage usage info, especially the display percentage and display on time (also, in-call time.)
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He said "good, solid use" in the written article.
Too bad that's an entirely subjective phrasing. One man's heavy use is another man's light use.
I can't believe these professional reviewers still haven't figure out that they need to give percentage usage info, especially the display percentage and display on time (also, in-call time.)
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Yeah? He also says he used HEAVY use. You will hear it if you watch the video to the end.
10:50 min
I see how "solid use" could mean heavy use but how could solid use or heavy mean light use?
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Yeah? He also says he used HEAVY use. You will hear it if you watch the video to the end.
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I see how "solid use" could mean heavy use but how could solid use or heavy mean light use?
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How? You just call that use "light" and there you have it. Or you could be streaming HD video continuously for 4 hours, and that would be heavy use compared to what he did.
The point is we don't know what he used and for how long, hence we can't form an educated opinion about how good that battery really is.
I think it is pretty important to note that he was 100% brightness, 8.5 hours of whatever use on WIFI. Not 3G, but WIFI.
I can get 16 hours on my 3D using WIFI with moderate use.
Like anything, wait until real world use.
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He said "good, solid use" in the written article.
Too bad that's an entirely subjective phrasing. One man's heavy use is another man's light use.
I can't believe these professional reviewers still haven't figure out that they need to give percentage usage info, especially the display percentage and display on time (also, in-call time.)
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That's why when it comes to reviews it is really hard to take one person's review over another -- However, if you're a numbers kind of guy, gsmarena.com do their entire reviews strictly with lab testing and numbers (see: Lab Testing ). You really can't deny what they show, the only problem is they haven't done one on the EVO 4g LTE just yet.
Edit: It is coming though - http://blog.gsmarena.com/htc-evo-4g-lte-dropped-by-heres-the-video/
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That's why when it comes to reviews it is really hard to take one person's review over another -- However, if you're a numbers kind of guy, gsmarena.com do their entire reviews strictly with lab testing and numbers (see: Lab Testing ). You really can't deny what they show, the only problem is they haven't done one on the EVO 4g LTE just yet.
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I think you are right about that one.
They probably waiting for the battery to settle voltages so its performance can be measured accurately. However, it still would have been nice if he'd just taken 30 seconds and gave those numbers like he should have...
There's only one thing I would point out in their testing methodology. Their video playback test heavily favors amoled screens over lcds. Maybe they are using very dark test video.
Is it me or does this guy seem to be biased towards the Evo 4G LTE.
HD voice isn't even available as yet and he's saying how great it is, also aren't both parties required to be on hd voice supporting networks and phones to get the benefit?
I'm a big fan of the phone myself but this guy didn't seem objective at all.
Another reason to not put too much stock into reviews. I just like to watch the videos because it's like gadget porn for me. My inner geek won't let me stop watching.
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Is it me or does this guy seem to be biased towards the Evo 4G LTE.
HD voice isn't even available as yet and he's saying how great it is, also aren't both parties required to be on hd voice supporting networks and phones to get the benefit?
I'm a big fan of the phone myself but this guy didn't seem objective at all.
Another reason to not put too much stock into reviews. I just like to watch the videos because it's like gadget porn for me. My inner geek won't let me stop watching.
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I don't know if he seems biased, maybe lacking in a bit of experience. Overall, phonearena is a trusted site, and undoubtedly EVO 4g LTE is the best Android phone out yet. As for HD Voice, I may be wrong on this, but I am pretty certain that in order to take FULL advantage, yes you will need both phones to have this capability. However, the noise canceling from the caller's side on the EVO 4g LTE still should improve call quality to the listener, just not the other way around.
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What's with the mixed reviews regarding the camera? Were their expectations too high?
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heres some one x camera samples. which look great
http://gizmodo.com/5907704/htc-one-x-camera-sample/gallery/12
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I think more or less, people are starting to expect smart phones to be a point and shoot replacement, and therefor are disappointed when the camera still produces cell phone quality pictures. So yes, expectations are really high. But, I feel that anyone's expectations are totally reasonable in thinking that this camera will likely be the best camera you've had on any cell phone you've owned.
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The expectations aren't unreasonable. Many phones ARE just as good as point and shoots. The samsung Gs2 is an example. The nokia n8 and others are additional examples.
The reason there are mixed reviews on the one x camera is because they are deserved. Given the one x's optics (f/2.0 lens), it should be performing better than it is. But it's not due to overprocessing of images.
Hopefully it's possible to fix this I did a software update, but i'm not holding my breath
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Hi everyone,
I'm going to be writing a review when the SGSII comes out for the Clove blog, interested to know what questions everyone has for the review, and what they want to see demoed on video.
Let me know and I'll try to get through everyones questions in the review.
Will be a slightly different slant on the review than places like Engadget, in that I'll actually be using the phone as my fulltime handset, so if things like the GPS are amiss I should be far less likely to miss it than those reviews (real user feedback as it were).
Great news! Here are a couple of things I'd like to know:
1) Battery. How much does it last under different circumstances? So, WiFi on/off, NFC on/off, display brightness and so on. I know that making all possible combinations between all these options is impossible, however at least something indicative of how long the battery lasts in day-to-day use would be nice.
2) Heat. Does it really get so hot?
3) Graphics performance. Can you play Tegra 2 games on it? How well do they play and what are the graphics abilities of the device (so far we saw sub-par graphics benchmarks which were most likely due to the drivers so it'd be interesting to see whether anything has been done with that)?
Thank you in advance.
Thanks for your questions, gaming and battery life will definitely be covered (I'm also interested to know whether the Tegra Zone games will run on it, that said for all I know the first ones to ship could be Tegra based anyways), good question about how much the device heats up.
I'm mostly interested in general performance, such as browsing speed, flash speed, installing apps, (especially multiple updates on the market) any lag anywhere etc.
Also talk about the screen, would be nice to see it compared in depth with a SGS.
Also any chance you could install a 3rd party launcher and compare overall speed/lag/features etc with TouchWiz?
first and foremost i'd like to know when you will be getting the device.
do you have anything more specific than mid-late march?
Use it for more than 30 seconds, like the SGS reviewers didn't. Otherwise they might have noticed the lag, gps, etc.
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I'm mostly interested in general performance, such as browsing speed, flash speed, installing apps, (especially multiple updates on the market) any lag anywhere etc.
Also talk about the screen, would be nice to see it compared in depth with a SGS.
Also any chance you could install a 3rd party launcher and compare overall speed/lag/features etc with TouchWiz?
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Will cover that indepth. Will be doing a screen comparison with first and second gen AMOLED screens (HTC Desire, SGS1), and also iPhone 4.
I'm a LauncherPro user, so will also be using that in the review and comparing to TW.
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first and foremost i'd like to know when you will be getting the device.
do you have anything more specific than mid-late march?
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I don't know anything more than you guys yet, will post anything I hear about release date/expected delivery of stock as I become aware of it.
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Use it for more than 30 seconds, like the SGS reviewers didn't. Otherwise they might have noticed the lag, gps, etc.
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This is going to be my new phone, I'm purchasing it from them, rather than being supplied it for review, so this won't be a review written after a days use like you'll see at lots of places. It will be my day to day phone, and I'll release the review in installments as I feel able to get a solid feel for the aspects I'm reporting on. The last part will probably be a couple of weeks down the line from release, and that will be the one that will be able to give much better feedback on things like battery life, performance under higher loads etc. If you guys have particular suggestions for some good stress tests for performance let me know.
Camera performance would be nice. eg. details, contrast, noise levels, features, how long it takes to process a picture, artifacts.
Camcorder also. Say look out for stuttering in videos, reproduction of frames.
As stated above, a thorough test of the phone's performance for lag or any inconveniences in performance.
Sound/Speaker quality and its volume levels.
UI/UX interface. Eg. is it polished like HTC sense, or as functional
I guess check for if all its features are working. Eg. wifi, GPS, NFC, MHL
A review of the battery life would be nice, however i think I already know the answer to that, since it only has 1650mAh/1500mAh
That's all i can think of for now.
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Also I noticed in the blog how clove wants users to discuss the price of the Galaxy S II. Just wondering, and understandable if you do not wish to answer, but, is the reason you wish to discuss is to also discuss with samsung the huge price for the galaxy s II so as to negotiate a price drop? Or is it simply for some healthy discussion?
The review will be my first piece for the blog, so I have no inside information on the discussion of the price that is currently running, and the motivation behind it.
Currently testing out RMAA software on my PC, but looks like I should be able to give good objective feedback about sound quality.
did you volunteer to review it? how come they chosen you? why will you do it?
Which 3G bands does it in fact have? Clove lists only 900/2100. Other sites list quad-band 3G. It's possible there's a Euro and International variant...
How many SGS2 forums do you post to? Is that a valid question?
I want lots of 1080p video test runs. Try flinging it into the air with the red button flashing. Doubles as a drop test.
Link to blog?
I need to know whether it can RECORD CALLS (both incoming and outgoing, real-time without beeps). Thanks!
1080p video performance in various light conditions. open up heaps of programs and see if the general phone performance is still smooth. thanks in advance
EDIT: If you can, find out what the deal is with the exynos/tegra 2 versions of the phone
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How many SGS2 forums do you post to? Is that a valid question?
I want lots of 1080p video test runs. Try flinging it into the air with the red button flashing. Doubles as a drop test.
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I post to quite a few mobile sites
Did I miss any?
Can you give us the link to the blog?
When will the review be availeble?
omg just google ''clove blog''
i thought xda forum members... oh forget it...
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omg just google ''clove blog''
i thought xda forum members... oh forget it...
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Thanks for your nice reply
How is the music quality through headphones, I understood that it was crap with the LG O2X so I really want to know with this device
Hey I figured after all the negative commentary about the 3vo I would take a drive over to t mo and take a spin on the newly launched sensation..the sibling of the 3d..I for one was impressed..the screen looked great..the camera was very nice and one thing I noticed was it as buttery smooth.. scrolling was great..it loaded sites quickly and I enjoyed the new "thinner" form factor..for those who are wondering I do believe its worth an upgrade..I didn't like my phone as much after playing with it..so i know its a different phone but turn the evos 3d off and you basically have a sensation with more RAM and diff camera..don't let the negative reviews throw u off...I think its funny how reviewers are like "its a relatively powerful phone" what? Name a phone on the us market that's more powerful..guess what the gs2 isn't here yet and I think when it does drop it won't be the holy grail everyone thinks..
Stay strong evo lovers.. / rant
Check the new android central hands-on. He says the Evo 3d is a lot smoother than the sensation. Also he said after using the 3d he went back to use the sensation and was disappointed at the sensation's performance compared to the 3d
That would be great! See I dunno why all the negative reviews...being slammed for an extra feature (3d) shouldn't make reviewers act like its less than an echo
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That would be great! See I dunno why all the negative reviews...being slammed for an extra feature (3d) shouldn't make reviewers act like its less than an echo
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I see these reviews like I see Movie Reviews, they are not the users and I could care less about what they think. I can't count the number of movies I have enjoyed that got bad reviews.
Man all these bad reviewers are trying to protect the beloved iCrap. They won't even acknowledge iCloud and the notification feature in iOS 5 are Android ripoffs, fack them!
I played with the sesenation and it was awasome if the 3d is faster then its going to be crazy
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well part of the problem that we will see with reviews of this device are going to be because of the 3d.. you either like 3d or you dont.. almost every negative comment that i have read has just been about the 3d portion.. so like it has been said it will basically be like with movies, just because 1 reviewer doesnt like 3d they are going to rate it like crap..
i personally am not into this device for the 3d, i have been waiting on a dual-core.. the 3d will be fun to play with potentially and dev for eventually..
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Man all these bad reviewers are trying to protect the beloved iCrap. They won't even acknowledge iCloud and the notification feature in iOS 5 are Android ripoffs, fack them!
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People keep saying this, but why did the SGS2 get such high reviews if thats the case? Its time for folks to realize that not everything negative that was said about the phone is "hate." The screen and viewing angles definitely looked terrible compared to the GS2 as well as the web browsing and the pics. 3 out of the 5 reviewers complained about the call quality/volume. I mean is all of this a "coincidence?"
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People keep saying this, but why did the SGS2 get such high reviews if thats the case? Its time for folks to realize that not everything negative that was said about the phone is "hate." The screen and viewing angles definitely looked terrible compared to the GS2 as well as the web browsing and the pics. 3 out of the 5 reviewers complained about the call quality/volume. I mean is all of this a "coincidence?"
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Speaking of which, here is a good comparison of the Sensation and the SGS2, a very real world comparison. Warning, its very long.
http://www.smartphonegurus.com/forums/topic/13554-mega-review-htc-sensation-v-samsung-galaxy-sii/
The only negatives the phone is receiving is those that pertain to the 3D screen which, as most of us know, can be disabled. I think they are bashing it just because its first, and will be judging its performance for myself on the 24th.
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Speaking of which, here is a good comparison of the Sensation and the SGS2, a very real world comparison. Warning, its very long.
http://www.smartphonegurus.com/forums/topic/13554-mega-review-htc-sensation-v-samsung-galaxy-sii/
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Thanks for that link as well
thanks for that link and that review was most excellent. I think this gives us a window into the Evo 3d's abilities and performance. Got mine pre-ordered and ready to go.
God I love my Evo and will hate to see it go but her big sister is sexier....lol
My roommate just got his Sensation yesterday. Nice handset! I don't like the rounded off shape of it though, but overall seems pretty nice. I was a little surprised on the lag it sometimes has just flicking around Sense. 1080p video recording on it is quite nice and the playback of what you recorded is awesome looking. I can't wait for my 3D, and I can't wait for the first opportunity to strip it of Sense as well. Even 3.0 doesn't attract me at all. AOSP all the way.
so the Sensation can record 1080p 2d but the Evo3d can't? yeah I think there will be an update that will let the evo3d record 1080p video
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so the Sensation can record 1080p 2d but the Evo3d can't? yeah I think there will be an update that will let the evo3d record 1080p video
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Agreed, it would be silly not to include it at some point lol
In the past week or so we have seen a few reviews. It seems there are 2 sides to this subject. You either think the reviews are legit or they are bias against this phone for one reason or another. The fact of the matter is the people reviewing this phone are individuals they are expressing their personal opinions about this device. They may work for legit companies but this is a review from an individual. The only 100% truth coming from their mouths is the specs of the phone. The rest is just their personal opinion. So people come on form ur own opinion and don't go by what others say. Get ur hands on it play with it then form an educated decision to whether this phone will fit you. If you plan on not getting this phone let it be because u tried it and figured "hey its not for me" not because engadget said the camera sucks and 3d is a gimmick. Form ur own opinions.
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Agreed. Only thing that helps is watching a video where you can see their complaints yourself and decide if they are just being nit picky or there really is something to be worried about. So far everything that I have seen have been articles that you have to take with a grain of salt.
At least use your=ur and you=u....
Great now I added those in my dictionary....
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The only 100% truth coming from their mouths is the specs of the phone.
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Except in the Evo 3D's case, even HTC's spec sheet is incorrect. Some reviewers have been repeating HTC's specs on the video recording without verifying the capability.
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Except in the Evo 3D's case, even HTC's spec sheet is incorrect. Some reviewers have been repeating HTC's specs on the video recording without verifying the capability.
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All that needs to be known is that the MSM8660 is capable of encoding and decoding video up to 1080p.
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That's fine, but I turn to professional reviewers for information that I can't get myself (easily) with the phone in hand.
I want a review to give me information of battery testing, reception, connectivity, fps on video recording, bleed or blurring on photos, or any number of other quantitative measures that are highly impractical for me to test either in store or in a short amount of time in home after purchasing, particularly in a controlled way. I have neither the time, tools, or (sometimes) technical expertise to execute this kind of testing. That is what I want from reviews -- good, solid, empirical, quantitative data that I can use to supplement my current knowledge.
I already knew, with reasonable certainty, that the screen is sharper than GSG2, but not as vibrant or good in the sun. This has been a given for a long time. I already knew that the 3D display would have a good chance of giving me headaches after prolonged use. I already knew that the spinny carousel was neat looking. I, really, already knew most of what they were going to say in a cursory review. And, with limited testing, I knew that some "reviewers" would have good reception/call quality and some would not. That's the nature of wireless communications in an uncontrolled environment.
I don't want their opinion, I want their data. If the data looks valid, then I'll consider their interpretations.
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That's fine, but I turn to professional reviewers for information that I can't get myself (easily) with the phone in hand.
I want a review to give me information of battery testing, reception, connectivity, fps on video recording, bleed or blurring on photos, or any number of other quantitative measures that are highly impractical for me to test either in store or in a short amount of time in home after purchasing, particularly in a controlled way. I have neither the time, tools, or (sometimes) technical expertise to execute this kind of testing. That is what I want from reviews -- good, solid, empirical, quantitative data that I can use to supplement my current knowledge.
I already knew, with reasonable certainty, that the screen is sharper than GSG2, but not as vibrant or good in the sun. This has been a given for a long time. I already knew that the 3D display would have a good chance of giving me headaches after prolonged use. I already knew that the spinny carousel was neat looking. I, really, already knew most of what they were going to say in a cursory review. And, with limited testing, I knew that some "reviewers" would have good reception/call quality and some would not. That's the nature of wireless communications in an uncontrolled environment.
I don't want their opinion, I want their data. If the data looks valid, then I'll consider their interpretations.
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I prefer to not let one's opinion influence my decision. There has been countless times when I've loved something that others didn't approve of. To each their own.
I agree though, there wasn't much data in the reviews.
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I simply want a faster phone. I could care less about 3d..
gimme speed. strip the bloatware and keep it simple.. speed speed speed this will have indeed.. the QHD is a step up from the 4G.. thats all i need.
Getting the phone. Devs hack at it.. im with ya!
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I simply want a faster phone. I could care less about 3d..
gimme speed. strip the bloatware and keep it simple.. speed speed speed this will have indeed.. the QHD is a step up from the 4G.. thats all i need.
Getting the phone. Devs hack at it.. im with ya!
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Given the MSM8660 and the Adreno 220, you will have a very fast phone.
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I prefer to not let one's opinion influence my decision. There has been countless times when I've loved something that others didn't approve of. To each their own.
I agree though, there wasn't much data in the reviews.
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I'm not saying I look at reviews for the approval.
If it's well collected data, it is not opinion. That data leads to an informed decision. Anything else, including handling in store is lesser. In store, conditions are often optimized for your "first experience" -- lighting, signal, etc. You can see if something is bad in the store, you cannot necessarily see if something is good.
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I'm not saying I look at reviews for the approval.
If it's well collected data, it is not opinion. That data leads to an informed decision. Anything else, including handling in store is lesser. In store, conditions are often optimized for your "first experience" -- lighting, signal, etc. You can see if something is bad in the store, you cannot necessarily see if something is good.
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True
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Guess we shouldn't consider photo or video samples, reports of signal strength from those who have an Evo to compare with? It shouldn't matter that if shoots 720p when it was advertised as 1080p?
When people tell me the Cubs suck, I always say "That's your opinion." Standings don't matter. Right?
One thing I noticed while watching all the reviews was tje great media playback and the spiderman demo is a game that our 4gs couldn't get past the loading screen
Giving us specs and verifiable data is totally different if they did that there would be no discussion on whether these "reviews" are bias or not. Telling us "sensation did better in this or that area" without data to back it up is an opinion. The claims of other phones doing better its what I have a problem with cause that is a personal opinion not data. I also have a problem with the reviewers comparing the phones camera to other phones that are not 3d. If u are gonna compare 2 things u need #1 data and #2 they must be the same type of item. Thats like comparing tablets to laptops. Its the the same this the opinion is useless
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Ok, now you're just being silly. Enjoy your phone, kid.
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There has been countless times when I've loved something that others didn't approve of.
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thats what HE said
no i totally agree, but honestly these companies are sending these blog sites phones to give real reviews, and most of the time that isn't what happens
I dont see what's do hard to believe about the bias in these reviews. Lets say you just dont like 3d technology or you are one of those people that have a hard time viewing it. I personally feel these people have a natural bias against anything 3d and cannot fairly judge something with 3d technology. I also feel some of the reviews we have seen have been a victim of this bias. I feel that way cause I notice an overwhelming concentration on the 3d aspect of the phone and lack of concentration on what they normally review in phones. I feel for an honest review of this phone the 3d switch needs to be left alone other phones dont have this feature yet so there is no way to honestly compare or honestly understand the quality.
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I dont see what's do hard to believe about the bias in these reviews. Lets say you just dont like 3d technology or you are one of those people that have a hard time viewing it. I personally feel these people have a natural bias against anything 3d and cannot fairly judge something with 3d technology. I also feel some of the reviews we have seen have been a victim of this bias. I feel that way cause I notice an overwhelming concentration on the 3d aspect of the phone and lack of concentration on what they normally review in phones. I feel for an honest review of this phone the 3d switch needs to be left alone other phones dont have this feature yet so there is no way to honestly compare or honestly understand the quality.
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It also seems like those reviewers who are willing to play with the phone a bit, adjust view distance and angles, etc. find the 3D to be quite impressive and even comfortable. Those that flip it on and expect 3D like you'd get from modern glasses-type 3D from any angle speak much more negatively.
Seriously, what's with these "reporters" trashing devices they've never used?
http://www.slate.com/articles/techn...g_new_trend_toward_enormous_smartphones_.html
All that negative talk about the note while admitting:
"The Note hasn’t been released yet, and I haven’t tried it out"
He gives himself away in the last portion of his biased rant:
But I will point out that the iPhone remains, by far, the best-selling smartphone in the world, and it has never deviated from its original dimensions. It’s time for Apple’s competitors to take a lesson from this success and realize that bigger isn’t necessarily better and that a phone’s utility decreases as its screen inflates.
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chill, every device will have bad reviews. Most reviews are a joke
jessejames111981 said:
chill, every device will have bad reviews. Most reviews are a joke
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But that wasnt even a review as he didnt even use one....was more like a biased preview.
jessejames111981 said:
chill, every device will have bad reviews. Most reviews are a joke
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Reread, it's a rant, not a review.
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Right, and when the iPhone finally gets a screen size upgrade all these trolls will talk about how great the new size is, how it doesn't feel bulking with little baby hands, how it's not at all awkward to hold up against your head. Christ, they probably shoot a premature load when they find out their new 8" tablet makes phone calls.
I'm currently an iPhone user. Have been since the day they came out, but that will be changing once FedEx knocks on my door on Friday (tomorrow would be even better). I have always loved my iPhone. It has been nearly perfect for what I've needed it to do except in one specific area: Screen size. Sure, I could have made the jump to a 4.x" Android phone but there weren't any phones of that size that I was interested in, and with the push to 4G/LTE there were even less Android devices I was personally felt were captivating to me. What really pushed my decision to leave the iPhone was the release (or the announcement I should say) of the iPhone 4s. Wow! What a disappointment. I didn't find the move from the 3g to the 3gs to be all that spectacular and I certainly wasn't overly awestruck by Siri. Sure, there was some increase in performance but there were no improvements in the area where I wanted it, the screen size. 5.3' is big. There is no doubt about that, but I have big hands, and as much as I've enjoyed each and every iPhone I've ever owned I have always had a problem fumbling around with the virtual keyboard, even when in landscape. My kids on the other hand, they love their iPhones. They use the crap out of them for what they do, and they love Siri. And you know what, that's fine too...
I can't stand how 99% of the reviews for other phone find need to even mention the iPhone. Review the phone your reviewing and stop swinging from apple's nut sack like Tarzan its pathetic to say the least...
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This and BGR's "review" were disappointing. All I got out of them was: "My hands aren't manly enough, give me a phone that won't mess with my manicure"
I'm so frakin sick of apple. I hate the way they do business I hate the way they make phones. And yes I have owned plenty of Apple products. Apple treats the world like poo by trying to hold every patent available and trying to sue and banish anyone that even tries to do something with mobile phones. Frak u apple. Just Frak u. Bow Down in the presence of one of the greatest advancements in the mobile world apple lovers the Galaxy Note!
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It's funny how in this piece Farjad writes that "When you go back to a normal phone after using something so large, you wonder what on earth you were thinking." While Engadget says "After a few hours with the Note you'll very quickly become accustomed to the size, and once you have you won't want to go back."
I don't see how he can justify that the utility of a phone diminishes as it's screen size increases. So long as it is pocketable, and increase in screen size will always increase utility. More screen real estate means more room for your fingers, more room for enjoying media, less zooming, and much less eye strain. I absolutely despise anybody that brags about the fackin 'retina display'. At 3.5", holding the phone a foot away or more makes small text unreadable anyways. Yes, our ppi is slightly lower at 285 I believe, but hell, you can at least read text from a foot away. Also, if you move an iphone close enoygh to make the screen appear the same size as the note, or the note far enough away to seem the same size as the iphone, guess what? The note has higher resolution. Bam. Some people are just too stupid and ignorant to accept the fact that the note destroys the need to carry a phone and a tablet. Yes, readability on an iPad is probably easier with the large display, but it's still an extra device that you have to carry, and it really cannot be held comfortably for extended periods of time anyways due to its weight to size ratio. The note will have a great weight to size ratio, making enjoying media for extended periods of time rival that of the lightweight kindles and nooks. Plus it makes calls. It's sad when people are so loyal to a brand that they fail to realize that other brands make superior products. I would take my current infuse or my old cappy over an iPhone any day of the week. And my old cappy is two years old.
The other thing that apple lovers fail to realize is that fragmentation isn't a completely bad thing. It gives you options. You have phones from the size of the HTC aria or xperia mini all the way up to the infuse, galaxy nexus and note, and everywhere in between. You can choose the device that suits your needs best, and aren't locked to a single size, incrementally update phone.
Also, I hate when apple fans bash the rate that new android phones are released. That hate is fackin stupid. It allows you to get the latest and greatest smartphone whenever you are available to upgrade, not just once a year. It also promotes competition that has driven the quality and technology of android devices at an unbelievable pace. Yes, your phone will not be the latest and greatest shortly after you purchase it, but you still have a top of the line phone that is every bit as good, if not better in my opinion, than an iPhone. Fragmentation pushes manufacturers to try new things that will bring great phones to the market much faster than one phone per year. I guarantee that if apple made multiple versions and screen sizes of the iPhone that their market share would not increase. Instead, they would have fewer people per each device, with roughly the same number of people.
People like having choices, and until apple realizes that, iOS will forever be behind android.
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It's funny how in this piece Farjad writes that "When you go back to a normal phone after using something so large, you wonder what on earth you were thinking." While Engadget says "After a few hours with the Note you'll very quickly become accustomed to the size, and once you have you won't want to go back."
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Once I got my HTC Advantage 5 years ago, I knew I would never go back to a "normal" phone. I have always loved having a 5" screen. THAT is normal.
boxerlover02 said:
I can't stand how 99% of the reviews for other phone find need to even mention the iPhone. Review the phone your reviewing and stop swinging from apple's nut sack like Tarzan its pathetic to say the least...
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Love this comment. Completely agree. It seems nearly impossible yo read a phone review without mention of an iPhone. And why?!!
Constant mention of it is probably the only thing that keeps the iPhone relevant (in any way that it is). Is apple paying all these people!? Jeebus! iPhone is crap compared to even my 2yr old Evo 4g. And I've got ICS on my Evo lol. Would apple ever ALLOW THAT? Hell NO.
Hey, "reviewers", listen carefully,...there is no need to mention iPhone unless you are REVIEWING an iPhone (once a year). Try that, and see what happens to apples market share. I guarantee it would stagnate. You currently are just providing free, unwarranted, press for apple. And looking a fool
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Love this comment. Completely agree. It seems nearly impossible yo read a phone review without mention of an iPhone. And why?!!
Constant mention of it is probably the only thing that keeps the iPhone relevant (in any way that it is). Is apple paying all these people!? Jeebus! iPhone is crap compared to even my 2yr old Evo 4g. And I've got ICS on my Evo lol. Would apple ever ALLOW THAT? Hell NO.
Hey, "reviewers", listen carefully,...there is no need to mention iPhone unless you are REVIEWING an iPhone (once a year). Try that, and see what happens to apples market share. I guarantee it would stagnate. You currently are just providing free, unwarranted, press for apple. And looking a fool
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While I agree that it is stupid for so many reviewers to talk about the iPhone, that is not "the only thing that keeps the iPhone relevant." Millions of people have and will continue to buy iPhones even if new Android phones are not compared to the iPhone in reviews. The reasons the iPhone is popular are legion, from people who are clueless, to Apple cultists, to people who legitimately prefer the feel of iOS to other mobile options. The clueless people are the only people who might be influenced by lack of iPhone mention in reviews, but I sincerely doubt that many of them have ever read a review of Android device online.
Hey all, first off I just wanna say this is a great site and great community. You guys have been my number one destination when I need something for my phone and never disappoint. So thanks to any devs and anyone else who reads this!
Now, moving on, I purchased my GS2 back in November after having the 3 previous iPhone's before (opted for the GS2 instead of the 4s). And everything had been going pretty good up to this point and I was loving my phone. That was until I received an iPad for a graduation gift... and now I've come to a bit of a fork in the road. I returned the iPad at first because I had always told myself that if the day would ever come I would get a Samsung/Android tablet.
But I've been comparing the 2 a lot and have spent time on my phone and my friend's iPhone and iPad and I can't help but notice how much smoother the games are on iOS, not to mention the far far superior selection of apps. I spend a lot of time playing games on my phone and my GS2 often seems boring because of the poor selection. I remember my iPhone having a lot more people playing games online than I see on Android. I also feel like I've wasted a lot of time flashing new roms on my galaxy. I'm a hardcore diagnosed flashaholic and in a way I think it might be nice to have something that just works (iOS).
TBH, I've always hated Apple, everything about them, but right or wrong they've stolen a lot of good ideas from Android such as the notification bar that was once one of my biggest complaints about iOS. And they now have the chrome browser which I hear may be getting Flash NEXT when it comes out? As far as I can tell the only thing their missing is Flash.
IMHO: I hate how iOS gets the attention and the good stuff because that's what everyone and their mother is buying these days. I've always liked Android more but iOS gets so much more support.
The other thing I like about iOS is the great syncing between iPhone and iPad. I want my phone and tablet to play together nicely. Notes, reminders, apps, everything. Whereas if I get an Android tablet (looking at ASUS Pad 700 when it comes out July 16) I would have to use something like evernote and gtasks and a separate app to sync between devices if that will even work. I also don't like the limited number of tablet specific apps on the Play Store. But Android is no doubt gaining momentum, just look at 9 million GS3 preorders.
Sorry for the massive wall of text I'm just trying to sort out what I've gathered so far and get some opinions on it. So what do you guys think? For a phone/tablet combo which is better, iOS or Android?
Thanks for spending the time to read this if you did and I appreciate and input you guys can provide. I assume I'll get more Android answers but maybe there will be something I'm not seeing or haven't thought about before.
TLDR; iOS or Android for phone/tablet combo?
obviously this forum will fill with "GO ANDROID"
so i am going to buck that and say "GO IOS"
its obvious thats the direction you are leaning, based on the complaints
Pirateghost said:
obviously this forum will fill with "GO ANDROID"
so i am going to buck that and say "GO IOS"
its obvious thats the direction you are leaning, based on the complaints
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Well said.
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OP....I understand your point about how everything in ios just works right out of the box while we go crazy here trying to find that one ROM and kernel which we will be happy with but we never find one. We might settle for one for some time but then we need regular updates to keep us satisfied.
Having said that there are somethings which are easier with android....at least for me. Eg.
-File management is much more intuitive.
-Music management is awesome...no need to go thru the uber irritating iTunes. I can just copy folders of mp3 and can play whole folders Instead of albums
-Easy to sideload apps which allow you to do something extra like download YouTube videos.
-Also prefer the larger screens.
-Like the option of external memory.
- and a few other things I can't remember
On this forum you will only get iPhone sucks remarks. I personally like iPhone and ios but buy android to satisfy my above listed requirements which ios does not provide or does not provide well.
My 2 cents.
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**** Apple. bad location for this.
I'd pick android, and I'd get the Nexus 7.
I'm no apple alfan boy nor am I an android fan boy. I like something that looks good works good and does what I want.
I had the iPhone 3 3gs 4. I loved the 4 by far it was just a sleek design IMO, I jail broke it to have more functionality and more open source management. I got an upgrade and I though apple 4s? Why pay extra for a few upgrades? Now mind you my iPhone 4 was never touched by human hands after I bought it. I had it cased screen protected the works I take VERY good care of my phones so it wasn't like it was all scratched so a 4s was justified.
So I stepped into android I've heard about it seen it on TV l read about it on the web. So I saw the gs2 and wanted it so I got it. Stock rom dissapointed so in a couple hours of owning the phone I had flashed roms apps the works it was soooooooo much easier then jail breaking. The cons I found was the 70$ a month warrenty while apple would replace anything I brought a jail broken iPhone in for a faulty battery and they replaced the whole phone.
I love both but both have cons why not use Google for notes and such?
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Pirateghost said:
obviously this forum will fill with "GO ANDROID"
so i am going to buck that and say "GO IOS"
its obvious thats the direction you are leaning, based on the complaints
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Just like Pirateghost already said sounds like you already made ur decision so I don't think there's any need to go further in this thread. Heck I don't even think this thread should have been started in the first place. No one can make this decision but YOU
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I've had the first iphone and ditched it for an HTC back in the day which had 3G GPS and whatnot while the iphone was lacking about everything. I'm talking iOS 1... anyhow now I've own a lot of devices, have been able to play with a few tablets phones and whatnot. At the end it is hard to decide which pill you should take because there are good things in both products and you can't have all, I found the best combination for me was having an iPad2-3G and my current handset (Galaxy S3 ATM) which is the one I take everywhere. I've had the Motorola Xoom, and trust me I wouldn't touch an android tablet EVER. There is too much redundancy having the same OS on a tablet and your device, you can do exactly the same there is minimal to none difference between running a tablet or a handset with android. thats why I got an iPad I can have "quality software" if you want to call it that way and have my freedom/rom flashing/geek tinkering with android. And the iPad2's are pretty cheap these days
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Hey all, first off I just wanna say this is a great site and great community. You guys have been my number one destination when I need something for my phone and never disappoint. So thanks to any devs and anyone else who reads this!
Now, moving on, I purchased my GS2 back in November after having the 3 previous iPhone's before (opted for the GS2 instead of the 4s). And everything had been going pretty good up to this point and I was loving my phone. That was until I received an iPad for a graduation gift... and now I've come to a bit of a fork in the road. I returned the iPad at first because I had always told myself that if the day would ever come I would get a Samsung/Android tablet.
But I've been comparing the 2 a lot and have spent time on my phone and my friend's iPhone and iPad and I can't help but notice how much smoother the games are on iOS, not to mention the far far superior selection of apps. I spend a lot of time playing games on my phone and my GS2 often seems boring because of the poor selection. I remember my iPhone having a lot more people playing games online than I see on Android. I also feel like I've wasted a lot of time flashing new roms on my galaxy. I'm a hardcore diagnosed flashaholic and in a way I think it might be nice to have something that just works (iOS).
TBH, I've always hated Apple, everything about them, but right or wrong they've stolen a lot of good ideas from Android such as the notification bar that was once one of my biggest complaints about iOS. And they now have the chrome browser which I hear may be getting Flash NEXT when it comes out? As far as I can tell the only thing their missing is Flash.
IMHO: I hate how iOS gets the attention and the good stuff because that's what everyone and their mother is buying these days. I've always liked Android more but iOS gets so much more support.
The other thing I like about iOS is the great syncing between iPhone and iPad. I want my phone and tablet to play together nicely. Notes, reminders, apps, everything. Whereas if I get an Android tablet (looking at ASUS Pad 700 when it comes out July 16) I would have to use something like evernote and gtasks and a separate app to sync between devices if that will even work. I also don't like the limited number of tablet specific apps on the Play Store. But Android is no doubt gaining momentum, just look at 9 million GS3 preorders.
Sorry for the massive wall of text I'm just trying to sort out what I've gathered so far and get some opinions on it. So what do you guys think? For a phone/tablet combo which is better, iOS or Android?
Thanks for spending the time to read this if you did and I appreciate and input you guys can provide. I assume I'll get more Android answers but maybe there will be something I'm not seeing or haven't thought about before.
TLDR; iOS or Android for phone/tablet combo?
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Google docs solves a large portion of your cons. Just saying
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I can't believe I wasted time reading this.
Go get your iPhone and enjoy running out of battery when you need it most.....unless you are plugged into the wall somewhere.
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HAHAHAHAHA..bugger!!!
I switched to android, just after a jam with friends where all were just talking about how wonderful android is, as I was always a BB and iOS fanboy b4 that instance... and I too found my experiences with this enchanting and quite amazing..
After using the this SGS2 which I got from a friend moving on to some better one, I have used it in stock condition for about a month to get full gist of what android experience is all about..
now I'm also into flashing business and have already flashed my first custom rom (shostock) and kernel(NEAK) with modem (UCKH7) and really having a great time with this.. no issues whatsoever !!!
I'm so entralled by android that I have also started learrning about creating android apps (previously tried my hand on iOS app dev too) and nips n tricks of modding a kernel/rom to get the desired experience.. maybe with a little more time, I may also start making my own stuffss !!!
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Go get your iPhone and enjoy running out of battery when you need it most.....unless you are plugged into the wall somewhere.
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What makes you say that. Iphone 4 and 4S have much better battery life compared to any android phone (maybe not razor maxx). iOS does a wonderful job of conserving battery
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What makes you say that. Iphone 4 and 4S have much better battery life compared to any android phone (maybe not razor maxx). iOS does a wonderful job of conserving battery
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4s battery is pretty horrible from the people that I know with the phone.
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What makes you say that. Iphone 4 and 4S have much better battery life compared to any android phone (maybe not razor maxx). iOS does a wonderful job of conserving battery
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Well, let's see. Maybe its battery is better, but the fact that I can change mine out and put a new one in (regular or extended) gives me way more flexibility than your iPhone does.
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4s battery is pretty horrible from the people that I know with the phone.
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The people I know who have a 4S say the battery life is pretty good. Even the battery test results in gsm arena and anand tech say 4S is near the top of the list in terms for battery life for web browsing and video playback.
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The people I know who have a 4S say the battery life is pretty good. Even the battery test results in gsm arena and anand tech say 4S is near the top of the list in terms for battery life for web browsing and video playback.
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The battery on it sucks ass but the latest ios update has improved it alot
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In all honesty and having used both myself, it sounds like you would be happier with the IOS. I personally switched from IOS to android and like it MUCH better but it's not for everyone. The IOS does work well but not near as customizable as android, but is more user friendly.
Thanks for all the replies guys!! If I do ever switch over too the iPhone I certainly will miss this forum. On a side note, is it just me or do 3 out of 4 people in the xda iPhone forums not speak English? Are iPhone users really that young? lol. But really thanks for all the help, I appreciate it.
BrokenPixel said:
There is too much redundancy having the same OS on a tablet and your device, you can do exactly the same there is minimal to none difference between running a tablet or a handset with android. thats why I got an iPad I can have "quality software" if you want to call it that way and have my freedom/rom flashing/geek tinkering with android. And the iPad2's are pretty cheap these days
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Thanks for this idea. Thought about it shortly after posting this and wondered if I should have put a "Neither" option in the poll (not that it would have changed much by the look of it lol). It would make sense since iPad gets apps specifically made for it while Android tablets kinda get left out.
justinblaine23 said:
Google docs solves a large portion of your cons. Just saying
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In a way in does, but it would be a bit of a pain to boot up Drive and navigate to a folder just to take down a note. But you do make a good point. If only Google synced apps too (more so than it does now at least).
secretasianman said:
I can't believe I wasted time reading this.
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I cant believe you wasted even MORE time writing that
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Go get your iPhone and enjoy running out of battery when you need it most.....unless you are plugged into the wall somewhere.
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Like others have said iPhones typically have very good battery. Even with all my flashing of custom roms, kernels, and modems I have yet to reach the same quality of battery life than I had on my iPhone 4.
Thanks again guys, this decision seems to becoming harder the more I think about it lol