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This isn't a typical question, I know the Hero GSM can't communicate on the GPRS network for 3G service on AT&T.
My question is, is it possible to harvest the harware radio from another HTC device, say a Tytn II (because I have one of those) and replace those parts in the Hero so it can listen on those bands?
Has anyone tried this? Or am I just up in the night with thoughts I shouldn't be thinking?
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Or am I just up in the night with thoughts I shouldn't be thinking?
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I'd say this, to be honest. I don't think that the SPL would take kindly to some random radio, and drivers wouldn't work.
Bummer... Figured that'd be the answer. The radio should work though right? The crystals just have to be tuned to whatever band the waves are coming in at. I can get Edge and 2G no problem, but would love to get 3G... Stupid ATT and Apple, complete lack of good android phones because of those lamesauce iPhones... I'm just curious to see if anyone with a geek level well beyond mine has experimented with swaping that kind of hardware, and if it is something could be possible to swap.
Umm, it shouldn't be too hard for you to procure a Canadian Hero from Telus.
FYI, the Canadian Hero supports the 850/1900MHz frequencies that are needed for 3G on ATT.
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Umm, it shouldn't be too hard for you to procure a Canadian Hero from Telus.
FYI, the Canadian Hero supports the 850/1900MHz frequencies that are needed for 3G on ATT.
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OMG!? I was unaware that this device existed! That will work for sure! Be nice to have a spare to screw with anyway. Thank you!
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OMG!? I was unaware that this device existed! That will work for sure! Be nice to have a spare to screw with anyway. Thank you!
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Yeah, this variation of the Hero mostly goes unnoticed on these forums because it's compatible with the European ROMs and radios.
Actually I'm using one of those Telus Heros in Costa Rica, our 3G network uses 850Mhz as AT&T, mine is rooted, and with a Custom Rom VR12 with custom Kernel running @710mhz.
I got mine unlocked from negrielectronics
Good luck
Hello to everyone!I'm thinking of buying an unlocked one from ebay.Do you know if it will work flawlessly in Greek telephone providers ? I mean if it is compatible with their band.
Thanks for your time!
Yes it would if it really is unlocked. I've had my Vibrant for more than 4 months now and have tried it with 3-5 local carriers all of which worked like a charm, be it on 2G or a 3G one.
What frequency does your provider use over there?
- First thing i thought when i saw the title was "Major, Epic roaming charge. BOOM!"lol
Hey all!
Sorry if this has been asked before (I've seen posts about it but no straight answers on the issue).
I have a brand new T-Mobile Amaze and a brand new Wind Mobile Amaze. Long story about why!
I can't decide which to keep. I like the fact that Winds is unbranded. I would probably like to use the wifi calling feature on the T-Mobile one when I visit the US (I spend 5 months in the US and the rest of the year in Canada). I don't think I want to root this phone....am undecided right now. The thing that bothers me though, is the camera program on the Wind Mobile version. It's completely different and I like the T-Mobile one better. If I DID decide to root, could I get the T-mobile camera on the Wind one? And then, how would wifi calling work?
Sorry, I'm a newb who is not savvy about any of this stuff....
Any help would be appreciated
Also, I read something a while back, that the bands are different between the two versions. Is this true?
Thanks in advance! CHEERS!
I'm no pro and please correct me anyone if i'm wrong but yes. the bands are different, which is why there are different RUU's for the telus, tmos, wind etc amazes.
I'm pretty sure if you kept your wind mobile one and then followed the procedure to root the device, you'll be able to use the ROM's that we have on XDA and then in my opinion that would give you the camera from the T-mobile one (most likely unless it's been changed) - but yeah don't hold me 100% accountable for this.
You can flash a T-Mobile based ROM onto the WIND's Amaze. With this, you will get the camera interface from the T-Mobile Amaze. I'm not sure about WiFi calling since I never use it - actually I don't even know if WIND has WiFi calling on their network.
Keep the t mobile one, wind one is not yet compatible with the kernels supplied by custom ROMs for now. Means anything with faux kernel
I know it says compatible with all the htc amaze on the kernel page but it is not for the Wind
Thanks for the replies
Hmmmm, I may think about rooting after all....I am looking at both the T-Mobile and the Wind site....
T-Mobile Amaze:
850 MHz;900 MHz;1800 MHz;1900 MHz;UMTS: Band I (2100);UMTS: Band IV (1700/2100);UMTS: Band V (850)
Wind Amaze:
3G (UMTS/HSPA) AWS 1700/2100 2G (GSM/GPRS/EDGE) 850/1900/900/1800
They look like the same bands to me. (??) I really like the unbranded Wind one. I'm not sure if I would ever use wifi calling when I had the phone in the US. Could I potentially add the T-Mobile wifi calling to a rooted Wind Amaze do you think?
Thanks so much once again. Sorry for the dummy questions....!
Wind's Amaze bands are (from the box, and I have verified that I could connect to both T-mobile and AT&T bands while in the states):
HSPA 850/1700/1900/2100.
GSM 850/900/1800/1900.
Kernels from Faux do work on the Wind Amaze (at least, they did for me when I was running custom).
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Keep the t mobile one, wind one is not yet compatible with the kernels supplied by custom ROMs for now. Means anything with faux kernel
I know it says compatible with all the htc amaze on the kernel page but it is not for the Wind
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Ohhh I had no idea....
Well I guess that makes things easier for me
Thanks everyone once again!
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Keep the t mobile one, wind one is not yet compatible with the kernels supplied by custom ROMs for now. Means anything with faux kernel
I know it says compatible with all the htc amaze on the kernel page but it is not for the Wind
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I don't know what you're talking about, but Faux kernel works fine with my WIND Amaze.
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I don't know what you're talking about, but Faux kernel works fine with my WIND Amaze.
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Your videos work fine after? camera still work???? maybe you have a slightly different variant, but recent batch seems to be incompatible.
Hmmm, now I REALLY don't know what to do! I guess I will keep the T-Mobile one since I have already been tinkering with it...that keeps the Wind Mobile one brand new so I can resell it! I suppose I can be a girly girl and put some swarovski crytals over the darned T-Mobile branding!
Now, next step is to find out how to get the wifi hotspot working. Have been reading up on this. May be easier just to root it.
If I unlock it and use it on Wind, would the wifi hotspot work without rooting it?
Thanks again everyone
if i was you i would keep the wind one ... why? because the tmobile branding is a HUGE turnoff when you are looking at your screen (sorry americans!) They are generally the same device just with no branding, you could push an apk to your system folder or apps cant remember and it should work as long as you have a t-mobile sim card. In canada we do not have wifi calling so it wouldnt working here (duh!) Good luck with your pick! what i would suggest be the breaking point is check if either device has S-OFF if it does you could sell it to a developer (possible a little cheaper so they can start making roms and try to achieve s-off in all other devices.) Good luck with your pick, basically theyre both the same device.
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if i was you i would keep the wind one ... why? because the tmobile branding is a HUGE turnoff when you are looking at your screen (sorry americans!) They are generally the same device just with no branding, you could push an apk to your system folder or apps cant remember and it should work as long as you have a t-mobile sim card. In canada we do not have wifi calling so it wouldnt working here (duh!) Good luck with your pick! what i would suggest be the breaking point is check if either device has S-OFF if it does you could sell it to a developer (possible a little cheaper so they can start making roms and try to achieve s-off in all other devices.) Good luck with your pick, basically theyre both the same device.
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Heya!
Ok, so they are the same device exactly....hmmm. So, wifi calling isn't as a big deal as the camera software. I want to make sure I could for SURE have the T-Mobile Camera on the Wind phone. And if I root the Wind one, I am assuming the start up animation can be changed. The Wind one is lame. T-Mobile one is much better;-)
I am not sure what S-Off is....but can you tell me how to check for that?
Thanks a bunch!
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Heya!
Ok, so they are the same device exactly....hmmm. So, wifi calling isn't as a big deal as the camera software. I want to make sure I could for SURE have the T-Mobile Camera on the Wind phone. And if I root the Wind one, I am assuming the start up animation can be changed. The Wind one is lame. T-Mobile one is much better;-)
I am not sure what S-Off is....but can you tell me how to check for that?
Thanks a bunch!
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you have to boot into bootloader (by removing battery then - pressing volume down and holding it down and then press power button (you should keep pressing both power + volume until you get into bootloader.) if you install a custom rom like bulletproof or sense 3.5 you will get The new Camera APK and bulletproof has wifi calling included good luck!
I don't know why people keep saying that T-Mobile and Wind are different bands.
You do realize that the reason why Wind doesn't get different phones from T-Mobile is because they use the same bands, right?
If the phone doesn't work on T-Mobile's standard 3g+ network (AWS) it won't work on Wind, and vice-versa.
The only thing you need to worry about it is it being sim-unlocked.
The different RUUs only exist because of carrier customization and locking. Wind's Amaze RUU is pretty much stock without the extra bloat of T-Mobile Apps. But of course, the T-Mobile RUU also has the updated camera function, unlike Wind's.
Also, that's the first I've heard about Wind Amaze's having problems with faux's kernel. FYI my Wind Amaze's camera works fine on faux's latest kernel and NRG's Energy ROM (and xboarder's when I used his). However, mine was manufactured in November, so YMMV.
Actually youre a bit wrong on that, T-Mobile does support 2G network so any phone with 2G bands (such as iphone or galaxy note) will work on T-Mobile Network with 2G Internet Speeds. And the RUUs are made for the carrier specific device so if you want to revert stock always use ur own carriers RUU!
I know, that's why I mentioned the standard 3g+ AWS network. If it doesn't work on the 3g network on T-mobile, it won't work on Wind's Home network which uses the same 1700/2100 band (also why people tend to buy T-mobile phones and use them on Wind's network).
And yes, reverting to stock using the same RUU is a good idea. However, from my experience with Motorola's SBFs, they are interchangable among the same device. Because Wind didn't have a publicly leaked SBF, we've been using other carrier's SBFs without problems when reverting to "near" stock.
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I know, that's why I mentioned the standard 3g+ AWS network. If it doesn't work on the 3g network on T-mobile, it won't work on Wind's Home network which uses the same 1700/2100 band (also why people tend to buy T-mobile phones and use them on Wind's network).
And yes, reverting to stock using the same RUU is a good idea. However, from my experience with Motorola's SBFs, they are interchangable among the same device. Because Wind didn't have a publicly leaked SBF, we've been using other carrier's SBFs without problems when reverting to "near" stock.
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Ahh... another unsatisfied XT720 user. ;p
Accophox said:
Ahh... another unsatisfied XT720 user. ;p
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Hohoho, you've caught me. (So many random freezes/battery pulls)
Now I'm a mostly satisfied Amaze user. Just need to wait for those new ICS ROMs.
Also, quick reading for those who are still confused about radio bands / if it will work on your network.
http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...ne-Will-Work-With-WIND-(or-Any-Other-Carrier)
i still dont know why tmobile version is the only one that have all those camera features, the wind version of the Amaze have the old camera UI like the sensation does, but im sure there should be a flashable zip for the camera like tmobile amaze version is.
anyone that had the sensation 4g knows what im talking about
i dont know if the same flash zip file from the sensation works or not, im not a pro but i figure it wont cause its made to work with the sensation,
another thing guys, they have a blueray feature for the camera when recording, you guys think it can be port over to the amaze?
If you rooted your phone, I have the tmo camera apk for you.
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Wanna ask some stupid question, what is unlocked phone? If I buy, still can use in my country?
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My understanding is unlocking a phone only works for GSM phones as they use SIM cards. Unlocking it allows it to be used with other carriers on the GSM network. For a real example, I unlocked my wife's Samsung Captivate on AT&T and she gave it to her brother who was able to use it with T-Mobile. With CDMA phones, you don't unlock them. You have to flash certain things to the phone so it can be used with other CDMA carriers. Example, again, a real one, a guy at my work had an Evo 4G flashed to Metro PCS, however, I don't think he had 4G. To be honest, I think unlocking a phone is easier than flashing one to another carrier.
If anyone can elaborate further, please do.
EDIT: As for use in your country, that is outside my realm of knowledge. Never had to use a phone outside of the USA. Sorry, can't help there. By the way, where are you?
Yes. most other countries use GSM phones. Phones are usually locked to the carrier that sells them. Nowadays its very easy to unlock the sim. Once unlocked you should be able to insert any major carrier's sim card and phone should work just fine.
Unlocking bootloader and rooting phone is different than sim unlock.
They have a new device out, I don't know how well it works because I've never tried it but its out there:
http://www.dhgate.com/universal-sim...-cell/p-ff808081371757e4013726905fd16172.html
Also too, One way to unlock your phone for free in USA (I paid $9.00 for this information a long time ago) is call your phone company. Tell them that you'll be traveling abroad and need to Unlock your phone so you can use it over there.
They will email you the Unlock code for free after you give them your IEMI and serial number.
The method I used to unlock the Samsung Captivate was by rooting the phone and using a free app from the Market to give me the unlock code, which is now the Play Store, of course. All free. No phone calls made. Total of 20 minutes.
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My understanding is unlocking a phone only works for GSM phones as they use SIM cards. Unlocking it allows it to be used with other carriers on the GSM network. For a real example, I unlocked my wife's Samsung Captivate on AT&T and she gave it to her brother who was able to use it with T-Mobile. With CDMA phones, you don't unlock them. You have to flash certain things to the phone so it can be used with other CDMA carriers. Example, again, a real one, a guy at my work had an Evo 4G flashed to Metro PCS, however, I don't think he had 4G. To be honest, I think unlocking a phone is easier than flashing one to another carrier.
If anyone can elaborate further, please do.
EDIT: As for use in your country, that is outside my realm of knowledge. Never had to use a phone outside of the USA. Sorry, can't help there. By the way, where are you?
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Malaysian
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zcink said:
They have a new device out, I don't know how well it works because I've never tried it but its out there:
http://www.dhgate.com/universal-sim...-cell/p-ff808081371757e4013726905fd16172.html
Also too, One way to unlock your phone for free in USA (I paid $9.00 for this information a long time ago) is call your phone company. Tell them that you'll be traveling abroad and need to Unlock your phone so you can use it over there.
They will email you the Unlock code for free after you give them your IEMI and serial number.
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I think this is the best method for those who do not want to root. I'm not sure if the GSM Evo 3D is having the same HBOOT 1.5 issue that the CDMA folks are having.
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Yeah, I'm over here in the good ol' US of A. I know GSM is more prominent outside of here. GSM tends to have the fastest data speeds, but, CDMA has the best cellular coverage.
Looking to pick up the HTC Amaze from Mobilicty for $$300 and I have a quick question regarding the 3G capabilities. Do the ROMs or any mods from XDA here support the standard 3G networks, and not the AWS ones? I'm considering picking one up and then SIM unlocking it for use on the standard Rogers/Fido/Telus/Bell network, assuming it can be SIM unlocked.
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Looking to pick up the HTC Amaze from Mobilicty for $$300 and I have a quick question regarding the 3G capabilities. Do the ROMs or any mods from XDA here support the standard 3G networks, and not the AWS ones? I'm considering picking one up and then SIM unlocking it for use on the standard Rogers/Fido/Telus/Bell network, assuming it can be SIM unlocked.
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Sim unlock for free via s-off, I dunno about the 3G factor, though I do think it has them.
Really? Because on my Samsung Galaxy S, only specific modems have specific network bands, so I was thinking similar things would apply to the HTC Amaze. I do see that you're using a Telus ROM, so there's probably a Telus radio....
All Amazes no matter what carrier support the same bands out of the box, no radio flashing needed. You'll be able to use the Amaze on telus/rodgers, no idea about fido/bell youll have to see if the network uses the 800/950/1900/2100 3g bands
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All Amazes no matter what carrier support the same bands out of the box, no radio flashing needed. You'll be able to use the Amaze on telus/rodgers, no idea about fido/bell youll have to see if the network uses the 800/950/1900/2100 3g bands
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What this guy said, since I used practically every different providers stock Rom with the same service reception.
Sent from an Amaaaaaazing place :-D
Too bad I couldn't find an Amaze in stock... Apparently it was all sold out yesterday
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Too bad I couldn't find an Amaze in stock... Apparently it was all sold out yesterday
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ebay my friend used ones are going for 250-300
new ones like 400 still mine was $600 when it 1st came out i bought mine a week early b4 it came out thank god for being a dealer
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ebay my friend used ones are going for 250-300
new ones like 400 still mine was $600 when it 1st came out i bought mine a week early b4 it came out thank god for being a dealer
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Got mine for 250 locally, changed the back cover and applied a screen protector, it's practically new now, normally goes for 350 in the condition I got it.
Sent from an Amaaaaaazing place :-D