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Hello all - I don't know if there's any answer to this or not but thought I'd throw it out there. I updated Android myself to 2.1 since apparently AT&T doesn't feel the need to. That has been a fine experience and I've experience nothing negative aside from the wireless network speed. My phone now always has the H (for HSDPA from what I understand) instead of of 3G, but downloads, web browsing, and YouTube are all way slower than they were before. It takes 10 - 15 seconds to download a 750k app usually. I have ran the speed test app from speedtest.net and its results confirm this by showing 44 kbps downstream & 750 kbps upstream speeds.
Is there anything I can do to fix this? I know that HSDPA is supposed to be faster than 3G but this is unbearable - I am almost tempted to use EDGE exclusively because that is all I pick up at home (EDGE service that is) and I get better performance when using the browser than I do with HSDPA (although that is probably more mental than anything since when on HSDPA I am sitting there staring at the phone thinking "What is taking so long!" and when on EDGE I choose something and then don't worry about it for a few because I know it will take some time.
Thanks for any advice!
Budbay1 said:
Hello all - I don't know if there's any answer to this or not but thought I'd throw it out there. I updated Android myself to 2.1 since apparently AT&T doesn't feel the need to. That has been a fine experience and I've experience nothing negative aside from the wireless network speed. My phone now always has the H (for HSDPA from what I understand) instead of of 3G, but downloads, web browsing, and YouTube are all way slower than they were before. It takes 10 - 15 seconds to download a 750k app usually. I have ran the speed test app from speedtest.net and its results confirm this by showing 44 kbps downstream & 750 kbps upstream speeds.
Is there anything I can do to fix this? I know that HSDPA is supposed to be faster than 3G but this is unbearable - I am almost tempted to use EDGE exclusively because that is all I pick up at home (EDGE service that is) and I get better performance when using the browser than I do with HSDPA (although that is probably more mental than anything since when on HSDPA I am sitting there staring at the phone thinking "What is taking so long!" and when on EDGE I choose something and then don't worry about it for a few because I know it will take some time.
Thanks for any advice!
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This is probably a network coverage issue and nothing you can do about it from a phone standpoint.
Ha! I love the first response had a joker pic because I was thinking of the joker when I wrote "why so sloooow".
Anyways when you say coverage what do you mean precisely? do you simply mean at&t hasnt done enough in my area for hsdpa to be effective? I do always have a full 4 bars of strength on it pretty much.
Thanks!
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Budbay1 said:
Ha! I love the first response had a joker pic because I was thinking of the joker when I wrote "why so sloooow".
Anyways when you say coverage what do you mean precisely? do you simply mean at&t hasnt done enough in my area for hsdpa to be effective? I do always have a full 4 bars of strength on it pretty much.
Thanks!
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Yes, I mean AT&T. Having four bars means that you have a good signal. It does not indicate however how much bandwidth AT&T has allocated to that particular area/tower.
Think of it like a wireless router at home or office. On your laptop or computer, you see that you have a strong WiFi signal but, that does not mean that you have a fast connection as that depends on your DSL/cable connection.
Get my point?
Got it, that's what I feared. So in essence by improving my phone with 2.1 I screwed my phone (currently) with hsdpa
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Budbay1 said:
Got it, that's what I feared. So in essence by improving my phone with 2.1 I screwed my phone (currently) with hsdpa
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No, it did not screw your phone. Your phone is innocent here. It is probably the network. AT&T may have a problem in that area. Did you try the speed somewhere else?
Nope, haven't tried it anywhere else. I didn't mean screw my phone, what I, meant was if at&t is not so good with hsdpa in my area I am stuck with those speeds until that is resolved because I can't force 3g (my speed when I had iphone 3g was usually around 1 mbps)
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I am on att also with the 2.1, luckily im in an area where i get around 2mb/2mb sometimes faster, sometimes slower. Did you try the setting in wirelessnetworks/mobile networks/network mode/ tick wcdma only if not on H. could help not sure, just a thought.
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Nope, haven't tried it anywhere else. I didn't mean screw my phone, what I, meant was if at&t is not so good with hsdpa in my area I am stuck with those speeds until that is resolved because I can't force 3g (my speed when I had iphone 3g was usually around 1 mbps)
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Your phone automatically switches between H/3G/E where available. I also have AT&T and have debranded my phone and did not notice any lag.
your problem is AT&T.
H is higher than 3G. if you got problems with it it`s because the signal is strong enough to use H but it preforms worse than 3G (cunfusing ah?!)
Well I was outside of my town the other day, in the country and noticed I was in hsdpa somehow so I ran a test and out there I was getting on average about 3.7 mbps. I guess where I am most of the time just isn't an optimal spot. Thanks all for the responses!
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Hey guys I am loving my atrix so far, I upgraded from an HTC Evo. I am having one weird problem and I haven't seen anyone else post a similar issue. I connect to my wifi network fine. It uses WEP encryption and it's the standard FIOS router that verizon supplies. I never drop connection but when I download from the market it takes unusually long as if it isn't using my fast wifi connection. My GF who has the nexus s is connected to my network also downloads much faster off of the android market. It feels as if even though the atrix says I'm connected to my wifi network it is still using the 3g data speeds. I tested it with speedtest and i get 16000kbps down and 7000kbps up. It sure doesn't feel like it though. Anyone else having this same issue???
I am having this exact same issue! FIOS, Verizon's default router, WEP encryption, and the speeds are slow only in the Market.
I wonder what the problem is...
I just tried WPA2 encryption. Same exact problem. I'm getting speeds of around 250 kb/s, even though the speedtest.net app shows me getting around 2.5 mb/s.
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I just tried WPA2 encryption. Same exact problem. I'm getting speeds of around 250 kb/s, even though the speedtest.net app shows me getting around 2.5 mb/s.
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That is my exact problem also. I wonder what is going on here.
I still haven't done anything to the phone like rooting it, so that can't be the issue.
Somebody did suggest I try changing the radio channel on my wifi router to 6 and 11, which did nothing to help the speeds.
It's strange that this is ONLY happening with the Market. Anything else internet-based works at regular speeds.
I wonder if this is only an issue with FIOS, or with the standard Verizon router? I'll be able to try out other wifi networks tomorrow.
Just curious, but have either of you with issues tried to push an app to your phone from the market website? It probably won't help, but worth a look.
Nope, just as slow as from the Market app.
Man, I have like 60+ apps to put on my Atrix. It'll take me hours to put it all back with these speeds. :\
Here's another problem: even on 4G, with a full signal, I load webpages with flash elements in seconds, but I download apps just as slowly as I do on wifi. It's like my Atrix is deliberately being capped, and ONLY with downloading apps, no matter what type of data connection I'm on.
If you use a different wireless network (something open and public) does the speed still seem slow?
Yes. 3G, 4G, wifi, it's always capped to around the same speed.
and again, it's ONLY downloading apps from the market. Absolutely nothing else.
Bandwidth usage while downloading a package from the market.
Bandwidth usage while streaming from youtube.
Monitoring done from my wireless router.
Did a bit of testing. Maybe some others can do the same to verify. I need to get ahold of my ISP because I am not getting my advertised speeds but download speeds from my computers were higher than my phone. I downloaded Astro File Manager and downloaded a .zip archive to the phone as well. Speeds did not seem throttled like they did when downloading from the market.
Just received the monster, same issue here!!
Using it in Germany. Very slow speed on my Wlan, sucks. I'll be anxiously following any news.
Could Google have purposely done this to the market?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11760852&postcount=7
someone try this and see if it works?
...actually, couldn't somebody just remove their SIM card and connect to the market with wifi? I've got a full body case with a screen protector on mine that I don't wanna screw up, but could somebody try that?
EDIT: Yeah, that didn't work.
Well just went back to ATT and got an exchange hoping that I just got a bum unit. Unfortunately same problem. On top of that I have noticed that my 3g data speeds are even slower now!! Speedtest will yield 500kbps down and 50kbps up WTF!!!
Replace it again. It's another defective unit. I've asked a bunch of people, and that's definitely the case.
Great. I checked the manufactured date on the phone in the store. 1/11/2011.
It was defective. Damn it.
So I'm basically playing roulette each time I exchange the phone.
I wish a firmware upgrade would fix the issues. I am in the same hell.
I've already done the APN fix on these forums, and even with that I've seen no change. I average anywhere from 1.0-2.0 mbps on speedtest. Highest I've seen is 3.8mbps. That's a far cry from 7+.
With my old Infuse 4g in the same areas I've averaged about 5-7 mbps which makes a big difference, so I'm inclined to think something is wrong versus just bad luck.
Also, what gives with even 5-7, shouldn't H+ be hitting 10ish? Looking at the "4g" coverage map for AT&T, I'm smack in the middle of a fast area. I live in central NJ.
Any ideas guys? Thanks.
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I've already done the APN fix on these forums, and even with that I've seen no change. I average anywhere from 1.0-2.0 mbps on speedtest. Highest I've seen is 3.8mbps. That's a far cry from 7+.
With my old Infuse 4g in the same areas I've averaged about 5-7 mbps which makes a big difference, so I'm inclined to think something is wrong versus just bad luck.
Also, what gives with even 5-7, shouldn't H+ be hitting 10ish? Looking at the "4g" coverage map for AT&T, I'm smack in the middle of a fast area. I live in central NJ.
Any ideas guys? Thanks.
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Which APN are you on? 'phone' or 'wap.cingular'?
I'm grandfathered on one of the old accounts with 'unlimited' data.. and and I have to use wap.cingular..
I assure you, you aren't alone in this gripe.
If I didn't know any better I would call foul on AT&T. When my phone was new, I got anywhere from 1-6.5 at the highest, averaging around 3.5 maybe 4. It seems like as soon as I changed my plan to the 4G unlimited, my speeds refuse to go above 2.
I tries a SIM swap, the usual "fixes" and they even reset the data plan. No change. I haven't got higher than 2mb since June. And they swear up and down they aren't throttling me.
It would be nice if someone could explain this whole data deal.
Have you noticed though that performance doesn't seem slow at all though. My connection, even when streaming video doesn't so much as hiccup.
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They might be expecting an influx of SGS2 on their network in the coming weeks and might be trying to discourage excessive data usage and as with any new phone, people tend to download heavily with all the new apps and syncing.
There really shouldn't be any reason for such a big difference in speeds. Highly unlikely the phone itself is faulty as build quality is superb, but might be worth swapping for a new one just to rule it out. If that doesn't fix it, then ATT is must be doing something on their end to specifically limit the speeds of specific types of devices and that shady stuff doesn't surprise me.
Try different modems, as I have noticed a huge difference in speed, from Down/Up 50Kbps/200Kbps (odd) to 400Kbps/215Kbps depending on modem version and congestion, I think my local tower has crappy backhaul as well.
All my data for 3UK in the UK is here
By the way, I also average faster speeds with wap.cingular than the phone APN fix.
How is that possible, as that is directly opposite what MANY on here report?
I don't know why but my new GS2 is getting slow data speeds through the Ookla speed test app. My girlfriend's Atrix 2 gets consistently 5-6mbps. Using the same server, my GS2 only pulls in 1-2mbps. My sister got a GS2 also and getting same results. Does the GS2 just have a bad antenna? I thought this was supposed to be a great phone..
I assume your talking about 4g speeds sounds like your not connected to a 4g network your pulling 3g speeds also what carrier are you on? Some phones just because you enable 4g dosent mean your connected ensure this and test
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i'm on AT&T. Both phones are. The GS2 has an H+ symbol
Same here. I have never got over 3mbps. I have yet to really find out why. I think its like that for many of us.
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There are some tweaks for data speed dialing ##3282# and changing proxy to 0 but double check.i did that for sprint and worked wonders my 4g is around 7-9 mbps after that.imbsure there's a similar way for att
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Nope... :/
Anyone have any idea why the GS2 is getting subpar HSPA+ speeds? Is there anything I can do about it?
Just ran more speed tests.... Atrix 2 gets 6.75mbps down while GS2 gets 3mbps down... can anyone help me out? I'm thinking of returning the GS2 :|
I checked signal strength under both phones, and it's pretty much the same. Both are on 'phone' APN. I'm clueless
I'm having the same issue. This is what I have been doing use Speakeasy.net form the browser and speed test there. I was getting 1-3 mbps with speedtest app. From what I have heard that app doesnt provide correct results. From this site on the browser im getting 5-10mbps. Try it out and see if it helps
Thanks for your response. The speedtest app gave me 2.5mbps down. Speakeasy gave me 6.44mbps. Wow! What a difference. Thanks!
So it's the app then? Strange....
I feel better now about the GS2.
I get the same slow speeds from speak easy
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Yeah the speedtests even with Speakeasy are inconsistent on the GS2. I did a bunch of tests now which ranged between 1.5mbps to 3mbps, and sometimes higher to 5mbps. Meanwhile the Atrix 2 easily stays consistently between 5mbps and 6mbps.
Maybe i'll try the AT&T store to see if they can help
I got the Network Speed app to monitor realtime bandwidth. Streaming from Google Music, I saw speeds of 700kb/s to 1mb/s. Crazy fast. Doing a speedtest on Speakeasy and Ookla only got 250kb/s to 300kb/s
Seems like the GS2 just has a problem with speed tests.
Hello! I'm currently on Verizon and have a contract that is about to expire and am seriously considering signing a contract with T-Mobile to get the HTC One with an Unlimited 4G data plan. I know that T-Mo is currently rolling out LTE and I'm in one of the coverage zones which would be really nice to pair with an unlimited 4G data plan. Anyways, I was wondering, since LTE isn't fully rolled out yet, how is the data speed on HSPA+ with the One? I consider myself a heavy user and do lots of Facebooking, Instagramming, YouTubing, and reading lots of articles and Redditting. My question(s) are:
How is the data speed with common/normal applications like the above mentioned?
Is streaming music smooth?
Do web pages load quickly?
Does facebook/instagram load quickly?
How fast do YouTube videos usually buffer? I'm currently on Verizon with 3G, and it usually takes more than a minute to load a piece of a high quality video, Its very painstakingly slow.
Is it comparable to LTE when loading HQ videos (almost instantaneous) or still take a few seconds to load?
First, T-Mobile does not have contracts anymore.
Second if you are coming from 3g you will see tremendous speed increase just on 4g alone. Can't give you details about how fast things load but they will be so much faster for sure.
Lte is spotty were ever it is being rolled out. I only get one or two bars at most and im in the suburbs of Chicago. But even with just few bars I get about 15mbps down and 11 mbps up for the most part.
Either way everything is much better than 3g.
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