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Well.... It has happened again... I get an OTA and the ish talking starts bout me holding back the "community"... So again I'm going to release the file I have... This time will be a little different though. I stated VERY clearly in the radio thread what I was doing and the fact that this OTA WILL NOT FLASH nor will anyone know wtf to do with it.... No one listened and instead ran their necks so F it.... Once you realize that there are several hundred .p patch files that will need to be applied to individual files, in succession, through 5 builds, then figuring out what kind of patches they are to begin with, then figuring out you need a specific binary to apply them, one you cant get, your on the right track.... Good luck with that... I'm sorry about this but honestly I'm tired of working on a device I don't even use, for days and days, with pneumonia mind you, for people to talk ish and complain about what I am doing. So I'm gonna leave it in the hands of the "well wishers" and let them take care of this for you guys... To those that havent *****ed, I apologize, but I'm pretty fed up with the amount of ignorance around here... So anyways, heres your OTA... Have fun with it and I will stop back by with an "I told you so" every now and then.... CR
Froyo Espresso OTA
lol im glad i have an epic. i just wanted to see what you were talking about in your twitter feed
People are still saying you're holding back from the community? Yeah, they're definitely ignorant. :/ I wasn't exactly around when this stuff was going on before, but I was lurking and even then it was pretty dumb.
Sorry that it has to happen this way, CR! Thank you for the work you've contributed thus far and all the great gifts you come bearing when you stop by.(Like this latest radio).
Well thanks to everyone who whines and *****es... a true dev comes along to help and you find a way to make him leave haha.. thanks CR for the work and trying mate. Good thing I'm getting new G2 on Tuesday
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This is really sad... damn ungrateful people...
Thanks for everything CR
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Well, I managed to update to this using some secret sauce, but I have now permanently lost root and S-OFF. Exploid and Rage Against the Cage-based exploits DO NOT WORK on this version of the kernel (2.6.32.29) included in this OTA.
On the plus side it does have USB/Wifi tethering built-in, so my need for root has dramatically decreased.
Just stick with whatever you have now until a new exploit comes out for >= 2.6.32.29, but don't hold your breath since it's unlikely ANY time soon.
:/ it is sad....at least you gave us the radio! And actually tried to patch the files! Thanks for all the work....hope you come back!
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There is a quick and simple solution to this problem and I think that most will agre that it is for the better of the community.\
First call these people out by name, post their PM's if any publicly
Then have their accounts suspended for no less than 30 days.
How dare someone make a statement like that, We got what 1 maybe 2 developers left with this device? Are you flipping kidding me? You asses are sitting there complaining about how the development on this device is dead, yet when someone has something, and is working n something you jump the freaking gun with stupid ill thought out comments.
So now it up to you lil ^itches that think you know everything to develop for this device. You wanted what he had released so freaking bad. So lets see what ya got... Hell there is no reason why you should not be able to crank out a working ROM with what he released by the of the day today.... I mean hell if you can't then YOU held back development of this phone.
XDA needs to do something about this.
The whole 10 post rule is BS. It does nothing
I think it needs to become a pay to play forum
I know thats not how it SHOULD be, and that it
COULD hinder development. but I DOUBT it.
Personally.....
CR your work is awesome, I appreciate it very much. Thank you for what you have done,
to the ^itches.... Thanks now I gotta go buy a new damn phone, that developers want to work on. Hopefully you are broke ass kids and cant afford a new one and will stay here and die with this forum, and phone. After all you started this...
Wow CR this sux that people's ignorance has to stop us from getting froyo finally with flash possibilities. This sux...
Thanks Chief for all the hard work. I thought your last update was the best rom and didn't have any problems. I guess its time to upgrade.
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I am pretty sure I know who it was... If you read through the RADIO thread there are 2 or 3 that were practically begging for the files he had.
I wont call them out myself being that I DONT FOR SURE KNOW. but if you read through there you could possibly figure it out. I am not encouraging anything, but I am sure a few people around here know of a few ways that will have their ISP shut them down for a day or so....
atlmatt said:
There is a quick and simple solution to this problem and I think that most will agre that it is for the better of the community.\
First call these people out by name, post their PM's if any publicly
Then have their accounts suspended for no less than 30 days.
How dare someone make a statement like that, We got what 1 maybe 2 developers left with this device? Are you flipping kidding me? You asses are sitting there complaining about how the development on this device is dead, yet when someone has something, and is working n something you jump the freaking gun with stupid ill thought out comments.
So now it up to you lil ^itches that think you know everything to develop for this device. You wanted what he had released so freaking bad. So lets see what ya got... Hell there is no reason why you should not be able to crank out a working ROM with what he released by the of the day today.... I mean hell if you can't then YOU held back development of this phone.
XDA needs to do something about this.
The whole 10 post rule is BS. It does nothing
I think it needs to become a pay to play forum
I know thats not how it SHOULD be, and that it
COULD hinder development. but I DOUBT it.
Personally.....
CR your work is awesome, I appreciate it very much. Thank you for what you have done,
to the ^itches.... Thanks now I gotta go buy a new damn phone, that developers want to work on. Hopefully you are broke ass kids and cant afford a new one and will stay here and die with this forum, and phone. After all you started this...
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you took the words right out my mouth
Chief wasn't the only one being bugged about the files. I've got a crap load of PMs and tweets asking me for the ota. I'm doing my best to provide CR with the files he needs to get this working for you guys. Hell, I don't even have a slide. Did I have to contact Chief letting him in on the file? Nope. If you guys would have waited a day or 2, you probably would have had a working OTA. But no, you had to keep *****ing to me and CR.
Chief, if you still want the files, hit me up on G and ill grab them.
Krylon360™
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Most of the people who wanted to see this zip released are not at all interested in actually running this rom. In fact, the more interesting bits are the sdio and tiwlan files that we might be able to fix the still-borked wifi in CM7.
Chiefz: nobody intended to give you ****, but there is absolute truth in the saying that many hands make light work. The more people looking at this, the more likely it is that it can be put to good use. The folks in #mytouchslide will be putting lots of eyes on this to see what outstanding issues we might be able to fix.
Thank you for releasing this and I'm sorry if you felt people were hassling you.
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Chief wasn't the only one being bugged about the files. I've got a crap load of PMs and tweets asking me for the ota. I'm doing my best to provide CR with the files he needs to get this working for you guys. Hell, I don't even have a slide. Did I have to contact Chief letting him in on the file? Nope. If you guys would have waited a day or 2, you probably would have had a working OTA. But no, you had to keep *****ing to me and CR.
Chief, if you still want the files, hit me up on G and ill grab them.
Krylon360™
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Thanks for the great help mate and as to CR if you read this hopefully you can understand that there is more good apples than the bad ones mate. Thanks either way with the final choice you make!
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Chiefz, don't listen to those noobs. You do a great job here and we all appreciate you as a hard working person that always brings good stuff to the forum and as a very good friend no matter what you do.
Thanks for all
Damn whiny 12 year olds.. you can't escape their wrath!!
2.2.1 Rooted OTA..u will be missed.
i personally think this was a good move to shut the people up that dont know what they are doing (like myself, (-) the talking crap part). but now that you have made your point chiefz, you should really continue your work. you would have the praise of the community!
No this was not a good move. It has left so many of without any hope of ever making our phones just that much cooler, that much better...
I am pissed off to the point I am shopping for a new phone today
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that sucks, but i don't blame you. thanks for everything, mang.
Came from a friend on another forum:
The bootloader will be unlocked, it's just a matter of when; we're trying to get it ready to release and hope to have this soon. Our official announcements, since this is a priority situation, will go directly to our social media outlets when they're ready (like the previous announcements). You'll hear about it when I do. I do hope that it is soon for you.
Sincerely,
Philip
HTC
The person who sent the email responded asking why other people were getting vague emails that gave no certain answer on the future of the 3vos bootloader.
This is the return reply:
The bootloader will be unlocked, it's just a matter of when; we're trying to get it ready to release and hope to have this soon. Our official announcements, since this is a priority situation, will go directly to our social media outlets when they're ready (like the previous announcements). You'll hear about it when I do. I do hope that it is soon for you.
Sincerely,
Philip
HTC
That along with the evidence that the sensation is soon to be unlocked.
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/htc-confirms-sensation-bootloader-unlocking-coming-soon/
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That along with the evidence that the sensation is soon to be unlocked.
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/htc-confirms-sensation-bootloader-unlocking-coming-soon/
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I don't see any evidence that their definition of soon matches with my definition of soon...it is a relative term, after all.
I'm going err on the side of caution, unfortunately. They have 2 weeks.
Regardless of time frame, we are all at the mercy of HTC sadly enough
The date on that link is June 17.
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stop with these threads i dont see any new information here.
if its that big of a deal return the phone so the people who are gonna keep it dont have to see these dumb threads.
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The date on that link is June 17.
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I realize when the date is.
Everyone is rather impatient here. I understand it, but It is not like a company can output a perfect unlocked everything for a phone overnight without bricking a large number of them. It takes time.
I apologize for the repeat thread. Half these threads present have people up in arms and intending to return the phone. So I posted a new thread in hopes of lighting up the mood.
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I realize when the date is.
Everyone is rather impatient here. I understand it, but It is not like a company can output a perfect unlocked everything for a phone overnight without bricking a large number of them. It takes time.
I apologize for the repeat thread. Half these threads present have people up in arms and intending to return the phone. So I posted a new thread in hopes of lighting up the mood.
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I would imagine it has more to do with appeasing partners (read: Sprint) than it has to do with technical hurdles...though I'm sure there is still a redundantly redundant amount of testing involved. Most of it is probably policy and politics than anything else.
omgtheybetterfixitinthenexttwelvesecondsorimsogoingtoreturnthisphonegoddamn
They just need a way to do it.... How about PC only unlock ...not ota. That will help sort out the tards that can brick to those who want to tinker.
enjoying my EVO 3D. But root would be nice.
JasonM79 said:
They just need a way to do it.... How about PC only unlock ...not ota. That will help sort out the tards that can brick to those who want to tinker.
enjoying my EVO 3D. But root would be nice.
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i agree make it so the person knows what they are doing
I don't get the whole I'm taking my phone back in 2 weeks, if HTC doesn't have it unlocked. It's going to happen to the phone. Whether it's through HTC or teamwin or someone else, its going to happen. Be patient, these guys will come through for us.
JasonM79 said:
They just need a way to do it.... How about PC only unlock ...not ota. That will help sort out the tards that can brick to those who want to tinker.
enjoying my EVO 3D. But root would be nice.
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Thats not how they are going to do it simple as that. I asked given xHausx suggested they just post up a firmware.zip on their site for those that wish to flash and get the ENG bootloader flashed and achieve s-off. Their response was that "...that is not the way they choose to fix the problem, and they will do so with a OTA software update.."
end of story is that it WILL get done, but there is no ETA as they NEVER provide ETA's specifically. And they do this b/c there is no telling what problems might arrise while developing the fix. If they said 2weeks and ran into an issue and got delayed then there would be another uproar tossed at them.
Also why when they say they are releasing a new OS update they usually say by the end of X qtr. so they have a TON of leway.
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I don't get the whole I'm taking my phone back in 2 weeks, if HTC doesn't have it unlocked. It's going to happen to the phone. Whether it's through HTC or teamwin or someone else, its going to happen. Be patient, these guys will come through for us.
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If teamwin does it great. However I would be very surprised if there weren't strings attached to HTC's solution and no thanks to that. If the SGS2 would be announced for a pre-September release date the 3D is going back.
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Thats not how they are going to do it simple as that. I asked given xHausx suggested they just post up a firmware.zip on their site for those that wish to flash and get the ENG bootloader flashed and achieve s-off. Their response was that "...that is not the way they choose to fix the problem, and they will do so with a OTA software update.."
end of story is that it WILL get done, but there is no ETA as they NEVER provide ETA's specifically. And they do this b/c there is no telling what problems might arrise while developing the fix. If they said 2weeks and ran into an issue and got delayed then there would be another uproar tossed at them.
Also why when they say they are releasing a new OS update they usually say by the end of X qtr. so they have a TON of leway.
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he probably knows that he was just saying it might be better if they did it that way.
Irishman42 said:
I don't get the whole I'm taking my phone back in 2 weeks, if HTC doesn't have it unlocked. It's going to happen to the phone. Whether it's through HTC or teamwin or someone else, its going to happen. Be patient, these guys will come through for us.
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Well, in if that happens in 2 months from now you and the 3 remaining devs will have a blast I'm sure. This technology moves way too fast for delays like this. The first 30 days is a given, return period, time to root, etc...but this time we are up against heavy duty security for heavy duty securities sake.
While I do exaggerate a bit my point remains. We don't have time to wait as much as you think we do...developers want to develop, and when they put a commitment into a device, well, not being able to develop a god damned thing for that device is kinda a turn off. Few of our best ROM developers are also the low-level guys doing the heavy lifting and intense probing and testing required to attain root/s-off...there is an overlap, yes, but most of these guys just want to make a rom or work on a kernel, and that is to say nothing of the theme guys who operate as creative talent before technical talent...
This is an elaborate ecosystem of skills and talents here. If you happened to be one of us lucky ones in the EVO4G community from the beginning you should know that it was a bunch of coincidence and a pre-release root (and the happenstance of Sprint getting its first kickass superphone--now a regular event)...so don't expect that magic to sit around waiting for this phone to be opened up.
I'm not saying it can't happen, but that there were a lot of factors that went into it happening last time--just having a decent phone and a forum weren't what made it happen.
Let me start by saying yes, I am dying to have root myself. I miss cm7, wireless tether, even stock themes, tb, and a whole list of things (my ORD is definitely flaring).
Now let me go on to my real point. All you "omg they have two weeks" people... Is the phone really that unusable as it is? My old hero, I couldn't live without root for overclocking. My shift originally ticked me off with crappy old sense, and then I didn't understand why they didn't make the new update sense 3.0. This phone, at least for now, is up to date, and blazing fast. Root is not a deal breaker on this phone for me like my past phones. And I hack everything... Wii, cr48, router... But I don't find it completely neutering on this phone like other devices
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Let me start by saying yes, I am dying to have root myself. I miss cm7, wireless tether, even stock themes, tb, and a whole list of things (my ORD is definitely flaring).
Now let me go on to my real point. All you "omg they have two weeks" people... Is the phone really that unusable as it is? My old hero, I couldn't live without root for overclocking. My shift originally ticked me off with crappy old sense, and then I didn't understand why they didn't make the new update sense 3.0. This phone, at least for now, is up to date, and blazing fast. Root is not a deal breaker on this phone for me like my past phones. And I hack everything... Wii, cr48, router... But I don't find it completely neutering on this phone like other devices
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It's a very capable phone, I agree. But it has far more potential than it has capability...and I didn't buy this phone to only be as capable as the phone it was replacing (a heavily modded EVO4G) with the only difference that I can actually see is a resolution difference.
Sure, we knew it would come locked. I knew I'd have this decision to make. It's a very capable phone. But it is also capable of so much more...that's what I want out of it. My 4G was doing everything at least as fast and with at least as good battery life with far more flexibility...
...the only reason I am so impatient is for the reason I posted above. If it doesn't happen relatively quickly the spark will fade rapidly. I feel very comfortable in the 30-day window. But as the 30 day window closes I am not going to be the only one who sizes up this situation and has to make a decision...more important than me and you and all of the other users there are the developers. The ones who provide the value-adding goodies that we love so much...without them we just have a phone like a million other phones, excuse me, that takes 3D pictures and/or Video...the only differentiating feature really....sure, HTC didn't sell a device that was intended to do the things I want to do with it--but it could...until they made it so it couldn't specifically...artificially...
You might not get it...if that's the case, congrats, this is the phone for you. No regrets. Rock on. But for me and what I would imagine are the majority of others here that is a deal breaker.....
@daneurysm: very, very well stated. I'm with you 100%
my email exchanges...
I have purchased your mogul,evo,and now evo3d. I would like to say that I love the evo3d, its an amazing device. But, if the bootloader isnt unlocked or rooted by the time my 30 days is up, I will be returning it. I feel as though I own the device, and used my hard earned money to buy it, and like a computer I should have access to it. I understand the consumer doesn't matter at all in todays corporate run world, but this is my stance, as is many others. I bought it, I own it, it is no longer yours or sprints as I'm not leasing it, I own it, its mine. Thanks, maybe.
their reply.
I certainly understand that you're looking for the bootloader of the EVO 3D to be unlocked. This is indeed something that we're working on, true to our word. We don't have a date set yet for when the update to do so will be available, but as this is a high priority situation when there is news on the subject it will be posted to our social media outlets, like our Facebook and our Twitter just as the previous announcement was. I hope that it is soon.
To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number
Sincerely,
Philip
in last 2 years i owned bold 9700, HD2 and now sensation.
unfortunately while trying to clean dust out of the screen i damaged it it was already dropped and leaking on the corner and i separated it even more.
i havent been up to date on cell phones for last year or so
and asking your advice because i do not want to make same mistake like buying this stupid sensation phone with its issues
(camera red color and dust under screen etc)
can anyone that knows more than me about the following phones give me a quick list of major defects that i should look for ?
im planning to get the new phone this saturday and dont have any time to do research since im pretty busy at work..
here are the phones from tmobile that i was eyeballing today.
1 htc amaze how well is it built looked a bit heavy
2 tmo G2X
3 samsung exhibit 2
4 samsung galaxy s2 screen is big but resolution is not so big
can someone post pictures from following phones also? unless theres a thread with pictures i want to see quality the camera on those.
I experienced the "dust under the screen" issue with the MT4G, which I loved, but the dust made me exchange the phone 5 times
I can tell you Samsung phones don't have that problem because they fuse the screen so nothing can get it.. a HUGE plus to me
The T-Mobile Galaxy S2 had been the best phone I have ever owned by far.. and the screen outclasses anything on the market IMO.. I've held my phone next to the iPhone 4S, both playing Cut the Rope, and it almost made my friend throw his phone because he was sure the iPhone had the best screen.. it wasn't even close, the colors, the blacks, everything was so much cleaner on the S2
You will hear complaints about every phone out there, including the S2, but I promise you won't be disappointed, I wouldn't trade this phone for the new Nexus, iPhone, nada
Galaxy S2 all the way.
Have you considered the Samsung Galaxy Note? I just got it one month ago - and I just think its a unique device - works really well as a phone and a tablet, which many people doubted, s pen with s memo allows me to scribble when I am feeling creative/have ideas which are not meant just for typing etc. I do hope they bring ICS to it, which is optimized and not slowed down. You could consider this as well. I know people have S2 and are happy with it, but somehow I thought Note would make the owner feel extra special Hope this helps?
would be nice but its not available through T-mobile.
No offence m8 but you really need to go and put some effort into this one yourself. Its kind of silly to ask people who you don't know and who don't know you to decide which phone is right for you.
You need to go google this sh*t.
get a list of the phones spec.
find 2-3 review of each one and read it all.
then once you have an idea of the difference.
Cross ref what you've found out with whats
1:Essential
2:important
3:Favoured
4:a bonus feature
Than it will become very clear which one is best for you.
Asking on a forum is just plain lazy, and likely to leave you open to other peoples all too common 'mine rewls' mentality, you need to answer this one yourself m8.
no offence m8 but i didnt have time to do any of that, usually i do research but i found out about the sale a day before it so thanks for advice broski.
i listed the phones i was interested in and thats about how much time i had is to check the specs on the phones available through tmobile. other than that i didnt have time to go around forums and dig through 1000s of BS useless posts to try to locate the defects and shortcomings of every phone...
but unfortunately i ended up not upgrading anyting cuz its not worth it.
Whaaaa? Its always a good time to upgrade :]
Sent From Space Using My ICS Flavored Sensation
the recent tmobile "promotion" was a big fail.
i went to the store and was told that there will be no change in my plan. and i get a the money back once i send the rebate.
to find out that i still have to pay full price for the phone over 20 month period...
that is not a damn promotion its a trick..
why the hell would anyone do that.
you get stuck with this company for 2 years AND you still have to pay full price on the phone.
i can walk in any day and buy that phone with my credit card instead and make payments on it and not have to be binded by 2 year contract...
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no offence m8 but i didnt have time to do any of that, usually i do research but i found out about the sale a day before it so thanks for advice broski.
i listed the phones i was interested in and thats about how much time i had is to check the specs on the phones available through tmobile. other than that i didnt have time to go around forums and dig through 1000s of BS useless posts to try to locate the defects and shortcomings of every phone...
but unfortunately i ended up not upgrading anyting cuz its not worth it.
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lol .......... if you'd actually bothered to try it you'd have found everything in a couple of hours max!!!
Whats better spending some time solving your own procurement issues. After all you know what you need want and desire better than anyone else.
OR
Begging the opinions of other people who don't know you, and whos soundness of advice you have no idea about on a website.
Methinks your method indicates how committed to the venture you where, the outcome speaks volumes
cool thanks lol one person actually tried to help.
what did you not understand i didnt have time to do any research past what little searching i did...
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cool thanks lol one person actually tried to help.
what did you not understand i didnt have time to do any research past what little searching i did...
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ROFLOL ......... yeah but you had plenty of time to wait 5 days whilst you expected others to do your legwork for you
Don't wanna make this personal but your just not getting it
"One person helped"?? No m8 one person tossed you a bone ...... since you where begging, probably just bigging up whatever he owns. Everyone else's response (lack of, should tell you a lot about attitudes to posts like this. Where OP clearly states "I can't be arsed doing what i'd like you chumps to do for me".
Best advice you got was from me, your best at deciding what you need not someone else. Amazes me anyone is so lazy that they would rather take dubious advice from a forum than spend 2-3 hours educating themselves.
How old are you ......... seriously you a teen ???
Galaxy s 2 is good screen is great and lots of roms for it.
ROFLOL BRAH. because sale is over... dont need your help stop helping...
i was hoping that someone could throw some details about the phones i listed, you cant read good can you?.
your advice was not worth any more than a piece of doog poop on a sidewalk.
now that i had more time i did some more research and know more about the phones. but you obviously do not get it. and just have to have the last word even if its not relaed to the topic...
u know if soemone needs help quick i give them an answer and then we figure out if he was lazy or not...
i hope your car breaks down and you go and ask on some automotive forums for help and get same responce as you gave me "its your car you should know whats best for it BRAH!!!"
but maybe you still dont get it..
i found out about the sale a day before the sale. you follow?
i work all day.. still with me?
i was busy in teh evening and couldnt do much research. still there?
next day i was working as well and didnt have time to sit research on teh internets instead of working. after work i went to the tmobile store...
i asked if someone could give me a quick rundown of the common problems of the phones i listed... nothing more.
because i dont know how much clearer i can state my question.
"can anyone that knows more than me about the following phones give me a quick list of major defects "
anyway this thread can be deleted since it turned into useless thread.
Well thats what happens when you post a useless question.
Sent From Space Using My ICS Flavored Sensation
U should buy a basic flip phone. Problem solved. There ya go XD
Sent From Space Using My ICS Flavored Sensation
cool another helper thanks for your help lol
If this question has been answered, please point me in the proper direction.
Say i wasn't liking the Amaze anymore and wanted to have it warranty exchanged. what other phones are available that would be given to me if i wanted to exchange it? What would i have to tell the CSR over the phone so that they'd be willing to give me a different device?
Reason: I'm sick of the lack of support HTC is giving to devs here. and i dont like that whole "can't charge to 100 percent and stay on the charger" nonsense.
So Tmobile representatives, can you help me out?
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If this question has been answered, please point me in the proper direction.
Say i wasn't liking the Amaze anymore and wanted to have it warranty exchanged. what other phones are available that would be given to me if i wanted to exchange it? What would i have to tell the CSR over the phone so that they'd be willing to give me a different device?
Reason: I'm sick of the lack of support HTC is giving to devs here. and i dont like that whole "can't charge to 100 percent and stay on the charger" nonsense.
So Tmobile representatives, can you help me out?
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Im not a t-mobile rep but ill throw in my 2 cents. I "used" to be a sprint rep, so when i call t-mobile, i try to say any of the things i know usually works. My family has been with t-mobile for about 17 years. They tend to give me better deal..not always. I recommend saying the word dissatisfied a few times. I also was ready to trade in my Amaze, only because i wanted to try out the nexus and i was to chicken sh*t to root any of my phones. Hasoons Tool and the easy as pie instructions in the dev forum changed my mind. They offered me crap phones, would only exchange amaze for amaze or something that was atleast 1 generation older. They said after they have replaced my Amaze 3 total times, might they consider trading it for something that is equivalent or nicer. One S basically. If you fail on the first call, call again. There is always a rep willing to do anything to get u off the phone, be it they are anxious or dont know what your doing so they tell u YES we can do it. Be polite but constant pressure. Good Luck.
I agree with death4u, I always say that I'm just not happy and stay calm. Honestly, that phrase has worked a lot. You just don't put the blame on them, especially the person you're talking to, and tell them you're not happy. I even asked them how they can make me happy, haha. That's how I got the amaze from the mt4g for free after having the mt4g for only a year. She apologized to me a bunch and offered me any phone they had.
I've been debating calling in to get a replacement, but I don't like any of their phones. I'm kinda bummed by the lack of drivers from HTC but mostly the headphone jack is crap for me. I can't put my phone in my pants pocket or workout with it without the headphones coming unplugged...it's getting old.
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Thanks for the quick answers. I am definitely always polite when calling, im just curious.
Hoping to get a current tmobile rep in here to help me out to give me their POV
You can do multiple exchanges. They'll just offer you a Sensation or a Galaxy Blaze 4G
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You can do multiple exchanges. They'll just offer you a Sensation or a Galaxy Blaze 4G
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I completely agree with Hasoon. I go on to the Tmo Amaze forum many times daily and can tell you now that only one person has reported getting a SGS3 in an exchange. All others have been given refurbished Amazes (many times getting another phone with the exact same problem.) Only after several Amaze exchanges do they offer the customer the Sensation. I guess the bright side is that it was reported that the Sensation was taken off the EOL list.
So the SGSII is no longer an option? Cause i would take that.
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So the SGSII is no longer an option? Cause i would take that.
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The S2 may be an option...I'm not sure. Haven't read any post saying that is what they got. Based on what I have read....I guess that depends on your gift of gab. One person got them to give him an S3 all other the Sensation. I can only say that it is very difficult to get another phone in general. There are others that are taking their fight to the BBB and FCC.
https://www.bbb.org/consumer-complaints/file-a-complaint/nature-of-complaint/
http://esupport.fcc.gov/complaints.htm
I haven't gone that route. I would find it hard to to accept an inferior phone. The Amaze is an awesome phone under the hood. My only problems are the 8-10 Bluetooth range (that I get.) And sound quality when video recording in a semi-loud environment. (Recording a live band is terrible.) I have been hoping that another OTA would address the problems. The BT problem got much better with the ICS update. Before ICS, my BT range was 1-2 Ft. So it's hard for me to just believe that the problem is the hardware. The problem appears to be larger than Tmo and HTC want to admit...but not large enough to care about.
Thanks again for the reply. And this reeks of the same problem the Sidekick 4g had...both samsung and tmobile were damn well aware of the awful software problems with that phone, but didnt care to do anything.
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Thanks again for the reply. And this reeks of the same problem the Sidekick 4g had...both samsung and tmobile were damn well aware of the awful software problems with that phone, but didnt care to do anything.
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My daughter has the Sidekick and she told me she has to do a battery pull at least once a day if not more... problem is she cracked the screen so we can't do a warranty exchange
They gave me a brand new HTC one s after getting 4 warranty replacements. I'm glad I got rid of this phone. Too many problems :/.
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They gave me a brand new HTC one s after getting 4 warranty replacements. I'm glad I got rid of this phone. Too many problems :/.
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Oh man, thats a **** ton of replacements. And how long did it take to do that?
And to the one with the daughter with the sk4g...yes, battery pulls were WAY too common with that device. Just too much going on for a device that was uniquely put together, such as the jump button.
Big pain in the ass, really.
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Oh man, thats a **** ton of replacements. And how long did it take to do that?
And to the one with the daughter with the sk4g...yes, battery pulls were WAY too common with that device. Just too much going on for a device that was uniquely put together, such as the jump button.
Big pain in the ass, really.
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So how did it go if you don't mind me asking? I was thinking about doing the exact same thing. I don't think multiple exchanges really matter, I got the amaze from my first warranty exchange from the Sensation, i simply asked what alternate options there were cause I heard people were receiving Amazes as an option.
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So how did it go if you don't mind me asking? I was thinking about doing the exact same thing. I don't think multiple exchanges really matter, I got the amaze from my first warranty exchange from the Sensation, i simply asked what alternate options there were cause I heard people were receiving Amazes as an option.
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to be honest i haven't done it yet. my little sister is using it now, since she needed a phone.
she likes the SII better though...thinner and lighter for her. you know how girls can be! so i may still call, its a matter of whether or not she's willing to sort of stick it out with this phone or not.
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to be honest i haven't done it yet. my little sister is using it now, since she needed a phone.
she likes the SII better though...thinner and lighter for her. you know how girls can be! so i may still call, its a matter of whether or not she's willing to sort of stick it out with this phone or not.
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well thats cool, I factory reset my amaze to see if it fixes my issues (autobrightness, screen sometimes wont power on)
So I was wondering what you guys thought? I have wanted to work there for a while. I've been known as the go to phone guy in my circles and really like helping people and showing them all the amazing things that can be done with these phones. I have a job interview in the next week or two coming up and have really wanted this. Always been great with electronics, computers, and phones. Been hacking phones since the back in the day razor. There are things I want to accomplish within Sprint. Better support for our community, better tech support, better service overall. I have come from working hard labor construction jobs that I really don't belong in and have wanted a change for a long time. I moved from south Jersey to Knoxville Tennessee to get a fresh start and back on my feet, and away from all of the negatives that have held me back. I feel I am finally ready for this. So what do u guys think?
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I think you just nailed the interview.
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Good luck to you and hope that you get the job.
Your resume was good enough to get you the interview so now you have to sale yourself and tell Sprint why they should hire you. After reading what you just wrote, I definitely think you should use that as your 'so tell me a little bit about yourself' speech, also called elevator talk. Keep it under 2 to 3 minutes and the rest of the interview should be some basic tech questions, which I'm pretty sure you're nail, just don't BS any questions you don't know the answer to. You got this, I think you'll kick that interview in the nuts! Good luck and let us know what happens.
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i always wanted to work at sprint but my record stops me from alot of jobs.. sux! wasnt thinking about that when i was actin a fool..
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So I was wondering what you guys thought? I have wanted to work there for a while. I've been known as the go to phone guy in my circles and really like helping people and showing them all the amazing things that can be done with these phones. I have a job interview in the next week or two coming up and have really wanted this. Always been great with electronics, computers, and phones. Been hacking phones since the back in the day razor. There are things I want to accomplish within Sprint. Better support for our community, better tech support, better service overall. I have come from working hard labor construction jobs that I really don't belong in and have wanted a change for a long time. I moved from south Jersey to Knoxville Tennessee to get a fresh start and back on my feet, and away from all of the negatives that have held me back. I feel I am finally ready for this. So what do u guys think?
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We'll have one of our own on the inside >
Thanks, my friend that is really professional and business oriented and has been helping me with resume, and interview q&a getting me ready. I love this community and never liked how the big dogs treat us when we come into the store. I want too be one of the ones that helps us if our phone is rooted or we are one of the more advanced customers. I want to work to make all of us fellow androiders, phone modders, normal phone users and even iPhone users more welcome and enjoy their phone even more.
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You Sound way to over qualified to be a Sprint employee....
good luck man.
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I love this community and never liked how the big dogs treat us when we come into the store.
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My sprint store asks me for trouble shooting advice and app recommendations every time I stop by, it's actually why I stopped going lol. Good luck with the interview
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So I was wondering what you guys thought? I have wanted to work there for a while. I've been known as the go to phone guy in my circles and really like helping people and showing them all the amazing things that can be done with these phones. I have a job interview in the next week or two coming up and have really wanted this. Always been great with electronics, computers, and phones. Been hacking phones since the back in the day razor. There are things I want to accomplish within Sprint. Better support for our community, better tech support, better service overall. I have come from working hard labor construction jobs that I really don't belong in and have wanted a change for a long time. I moved from south Jersey to Knoxville Tennessee to get a fresh start and back on my feet, and away from all of the negatives that have held me back. I feel I am finally ready for this. So what do u guys think?
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I'm actually going to my local sprint store tomorrow to inquire about a position they have available at a store about 25 mins away not ideal, but your resume sounds pretty close to mine, I'm in retail now selling dog food and i could care less about that, phones on the other hand i bet i could set records at my store. Usually when i walk in there i educate the employees lol. Good luck, maybe sprint will hire two great reps. Btw, are u going for a franchise or a corporate store?
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Hey, I say if u want it, go fuggin get it... Just don't forget where u came from and allow a convert.. Lol.. I could only dream of an interview like this and u already got that.. Good luck to ya and remember where YOU "came" from.. Notice the quotes cuz u got the job..
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You should be fine and you should get the job but things you need to remember:
If you're selling phones, you won't be selling phones to people like us. You'll be selling phones to extra regular people. So all of your knowledge on here is pretty much irrelevant. If someone wants to do something and you yourself know that they could easily do it rooted, if you tell them that, you may be messing them up. And most people don't want to have to do all of this extra work for simple features. So telling them they'd have to root or something like that will actually steer them away from android and if Sprint wants you to push Android, you're hurting yourself and your sales.
Also, how you go about fixing things will be pretty irrelevant. You can't root the devices and unroot so at the end of the day if something goes down you're still gonna have to go through those set up procedures they lay out...
So having all of this knowledge is great but you may end up hating it all in the end because you can't go in there and do what you want. You can't really say what you want because you'll be around a different audience. This site and all of your hacking experience will be irrelevant and will probably go over most people's heads. And your troubleshooting methods will be limited.
All in all, you may be overqualified. If you really want to work with phones, look into internships and dev work where you get to do what you want. Going into Sprint and their own system won't make you feel any better.
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Best wishes to OP, and very good points by ms (and many others)
From my Evo LTE, yup.
Talk about how you love phones and are great with them, but don't mention rooting and/or stuff related to root/s-off.
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I worked for the largest private staffing company in the world and can offer a couple things or rehash what others have said but most important thing in to leave your prospects realizing the value goes both ways. They are hiribg you and you are potentially hiring them. Sell that confidence and you are golden.
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I'm actually going to my local sprint store tomorrow to inquire about a position they have available at a store about 25 mins away not ideal, but your resume sounds pretty close to mine, I'm in retail now selling dog food and i could care less about that, phones on the other hand i bet i could set records at my store. Usually when i walk in there i educate the employees lol. Good luck, maybe sprint will hire two great reps. Btw, are u going for a franchise or a corporate store?
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Franchise. Yes, and selling phones is only to get my foot in the door. Tech would be next and down the line management. I have had good experiences with Sprint but it is the bad ones that always stick out. Those are what I wish to improve upon.
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You should be fine and you should get the job but things you need to remember:
If you're selling phones, you won't be selling phones to people like us. You'll be selling phones to extra regular people. So all of your knowledge on here is pretty much irrelevant. If someone wants to do something and you yourself know that they could easily do it rooted, if you tell them that, you may be messing them up. And most people don't want to have to do all of this extra work for simple features. So telling them they'd have to root or something like that will actually steer them away from android and if Sprint wants you to push Android, you're hurting yourself and your sales.
Also, how you go about fixing things will be pretty irrelevant. You can't root the devices and unroot so at the end of the day if something goes down you're still gonna have to go through those set up procedures they lay out...
So having all of this knowledge is great but you may end up hating it all in the end because you can't go in there and do what you want. You can't really say what you want because you'll be around a different audience. This site and all of your hacking experience will be irrelevant and will probably go over most people's heads. And your troubleshooting methods will be limited.
All in all, you may be overqualified. If you really want to work with phones, look into internships and dev work where you get to do what you want. Going into Sprint and their own system won't make you feel any better.
Edit: Had to fix spacing. For some reason the text field would go off screen so I had to enter in new lines so I could see it. Just went back myself in a different browser to fix it.
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I've understood that for a long time now. We are not normal people here on xda, lol. Sometimes people just need to be shown how easily settings can be changed or what app they are looking for to suite their needs. The simpler people will need iPhones or even the dying flip type rugged phones for the construction industry. Normal people don't want to here about rooting. In fact I refuse to s-off/root others phones besides my own because they could seriously damage the OS, or it would turn out to be up to a 2 yr commitment maintaining that phone. Our modded eVos are in a whole different class that can't be touched unless it's relatively the same kind of modded phone. I also want to add their troubleshooting methods to my own. I know the tools we use but I want to know theirs as well. In personal life, people ask for such simple things like how to transfer music from the computer to their phone. Things that will bring them joy for yrs on a phone. A lot of people are still computer illiterate, but I'd rather change their thought process about phones than computers because these are truly the future. I practically only use my computer to play movies connected to my 50 inch. But a phone, well I've used that how everyone else uses a computer for yrs. Some of us on xda are light to moderate users that just want better battery to last through the day. I consider myself at the extreme of heavy user. Pretty much on it doing anything I want for as much time allows that I'm awake. One of those things is read, read, read on xda. Again I love this place, and you all show amazing support.
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Franchise. Yes, and selling phones is only to get my foot in the door. Tech would be next and down the line management. I have had good experiences with Sprint but it is the bad ones that always stick out. Those are what I wish to improve upon.
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Wha kind of retailer is it? I know it's a franchise. But which one?
And congrats OP, good luck. I landed a job with Sprint in September and am the top dog at my store now. I love this job and I always try and right the wrongs of the world by actually being a good phone rep because not everyone is! It's really a great gig.
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Franchise. Yes, and selling phones is only to get my foot in the door. Tech would be next and down the line management. I have had good experiences with Sprint but it is the bad ones that always stick out. Those are what I wish to improve upon.
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Yes, that is similar to my outlook, I've taken things apart since forever. I actually did a tear down video on the e3d before it was released. Good luck to ya!
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So what does a job like Sprint pay?
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