Hey guys, do we have any real world tests of GPS fix time / accuracy??
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Havent seen any but this is a good question to ask "vickytoria" to test for us in her video thread.
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Was my understanding she no longer has a test unit?
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Gps in this unit is wonderful... damn fast <2 seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIthAE9TGKU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
See the video at 9:25 for yourself to be amazed.
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Accuracy is almost 30 feet which is 10 meters all the time which is a good sign.
Note that the device was tested in aero plane mode so no Agps which means a real good sign.
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Gps in this unit is wonderful... damn fast <2 seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIthAE9TGKU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
See the video at 9:25 for yourself to be amazed.
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thanks for linking that.
wow! less than 2 secs connection on non-assisted gps.
btw, how does hox performs in that test?
lol @ background music, unbreak my heart.
it's like the s2 singing that song since it's thinking it's going to be replaced by the new s3.
hehe
as this device has glonass along with gps it should be damn fast.
nice video posted above and some extra news is the mobile needs 20 seconds to boot... i thought there would be some improvements here
A very good post and nice video, i was actually worried about this.
He says that even when he is in buildings and houses the GPS managed to lock onto a satellite.
radeonxt said:
thanks for linking that.
wow! less than 2 secs connection on non-assisted gps.
btw, how does hox performs in that test?
lol @ background music, unbreak my heart.
it's like the s2 singing that song since it's thinking it's going to be replaced by the new s3.
hehe
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HTC One X
Lock speed : 2 - 5 Seconds
Accuracy : 5 feet (<2 meters) [ Consistently getting 5 - 15 feet ]
Number of satellites lock : 2 - 10 Max [But never looses connection]
Location : Singapore
Has Only GPS
Galaxy Note
Lock speed : 2 - 5 Seconds
Accuracy : 30 feet (+-10 meters) [ Consistently getting 24 - 35 feet ]
Number of satellites lock : 8 - 17 Max [But never looses connection]
Location : Singapore
Has Both GPS and Glonass
Galaxy S3
Refer above video
I expect SGS3 will be in range with Galaxy Note with accuracy of < 30 meters and instant lock to the satellites as shown in the video.
Point to note here is, just because the devices locks to more no. of satellites doesn't mean the accuracy is going to be good. I have seen it and experienced it but do not have an explanation for it.
I am very much interested in SGS3 wrt the GPS for Using SYGIC ! especially with the original Samsung car mount.
<<Raj$>> said:
Gps in this unit is wonderful... damn fast <2 seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIthAE9TGKU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
See the video at 9:25 for yourself to be amazed.
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he already loaded the location with the gps on the s3
he didnt on the s2 and disable wifi when he starts
if you look at 5min, where the S3 is probably still hot starting in gmaps, after 2-3s he quits gmaps and the GPS lock icon is still blinking (= no lock), so much for "instant lock"
the S2 locks rather fast (even if most likely slower) with hot fix outdoors in similar conditions
so sure, glonass+gps is probably faster, but, the comparison video is pretty poorly made.
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He says that even when he is in buildings and houses the GPS managed to lock onto a satellite.
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another wow! for the sgs3
bilboa1 said:
he already loaded the location with the gps on the s3
he didnt on the s2 and disable wifi when he starts
if you look at 5min, where the S3 is probably still hot starting in gmaps, after 2-3s he quits gmaps and the GPS lock icon is still blinking (= no lock), so much for "instant lock"
the S2 locks rather fast (even if most likely slower) with hot fix outdoors in similar conditions
so sure, glonass+gps is probably faster, but, the comparison video is pretty poorly made.
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I agree with you. That was a bad comparison and doesn't give the S2 justice.
I took a screenshot of my S2, beeing indoors, and as you can see I got a 3 sec. fix. It varies between 3-10 seconds.
At the Galaxy S3 Presentation Show I read in the specs the s3 supports glonass too. I love glonass on my xperia play and miss it so much on my EVO 3D.
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German-Guy said:
At the Galaxy S3 Presentation Show I read in the specs the s3 supports glonass too. I love glonass on my xperia play and miss it so much on my EVO 3D.
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Do you have any problems with GPS-apps in Xperia?
Theoretically, with GPS and Glonass, you should get 24 satellites in view with both, 12 over the horizon with GPS and 12 with Glonass. I'm not sure if all GPS-apps are able to show 24 sats?
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HTC One X
Lock speed : 2 - 5 Seconds
Accuracy : 5 feet (<2 meters) [ Consistently getting 5 - 15 feet ]
Number of satellites lock : 2 - 10 Max [But never looses connection]
Location : Singapore
Has Only GPS
Galaxy Note
Lock speed : 2 - 5 Seconds
Accuracy : 30 feet (+-10 meters) [ Consistently getting 24 - 35 feet ]
Number of satellites lock : 8 - 17 Max [But never looses connection]
Location : Singapore
Has Both GPS and Glonass
Galaxy S3
Refer above video
I expect SGS3 will be in range with Galaxy Note with accuracy of < 30 meters and instant lock to the satellites as shown in the video.
Point to note here is, just because the devices locks to more no. of satellites doesn't mean the accuracy is going to be good. I have seen it and experienced it but do not have an explanation for it.
I am very much interested in SGS3 wrt the GPS for Using SYGIC ! especially with the original Samsung car mount.
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I own a Note and One X and the Note's GPS performance is much better than the One X's. The One X's is fine for navigation purposes, but less so for sportstracking and so forth. It's lock speed is not 2-5 seconds as you suggest (it's generally 5-10s and occasionally a little longer, which is fine, but not as good as you suggest), and neither does it never lose position.
NZtechfreak said:
I own a Note and One X and the Note's GPS performance is much better than the One X's. The One X's is fine for navigation purposes, but less so for sportstracking and so forth. It's lock speed is not 2-5 seconds as you suggest (it's generally 5-10s and occasionally a little longer, which is fine, but not as good as you suggest), and neither does it never lose position.
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thanks for clearing that up.
liars go to hell.
Who cares about the lock time, accuracy is more important...
I had HTC One X for 1.5 month and GPS was the best I've ever seen. I use Sportypal to track my workouts and not only it almost always showed my track on the road and not over houses, but it also was almost perfectly smooth with little zig-zagging:
SG3 though, I had only few days and first experience is not good, actually it's terrible. It was loosing connection all the time on clear day and the result - the track was all over the place:
This phone had the best GPS I've ever seen on any device, and I've had many phones. It connects under 2 seconds and finds more than 10 sattelites every time, even without a data connection. I'm very impressed by it.
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Considering buying an ATRIX but I need good GPS, whats locking speed and accuracy like and is it fast even with Data connection off?
I consider it great....but I always have connection on....
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Not sure about with data off, but in regular use its great, and is one of the main reasons I switched from the iPhone. It also seems to calculate real time traffic into your ETA.
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keep mobile data off 85% of the time. almost never use the gps. connects within seconds indoors without downloading data. ive had a g1, droid, and acer iconia tab. this blows them away gps wise.
I was shocked at how fast it connected and started navigating. Last week I tried my g/f's inspire. Took like over 5 mins to lock. My Atrix takes seconds.
The Atrix has a fantastic gps. Even better than my son's low-end Garmin. I used it for a 600-mile trip to Spokane and it never missed a beat. I loaded my route before leaving, and it cached all the maps. Hence, it worked well even in areas without data service. I was so impressed that I bought the car dock when I arrived in Spokane just to have better access to the gps features in the car.
Best GPS on any phone. I have ever used.
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Best GPS on any phone. I have ever used.
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same here. but i used to own a galaxy s so really anything is an improvement. locking is super fast & accurate - perfect for all of those golf apps.
The Balvenie said:
same here. but i used to own a galaxy s so really anything is an improvement. locking is super fast & accurate - perfect for all of those golf apps.
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Rofl seriously my captivate gps would have me driving a mile away through houses, driving in one direction while pointing in another direction, and tell me I was accurate to 30m all at the same time. Atrix gps is awesome.
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Agreed, i'm very happy with the gps. It didnt occur to me to test without data before but i just tried it.
I went into airplane mode, went into Gps Test app and turned gps on. It immediately located the first satellite and others, and ~6-7 seconds later it had full lock. This is from my 3rd floor office of a 4 floor building.
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GPS is awesome on these phones. I don't know about with the data off though, you have to get maps from somewhere. With Google maps, you can set it to cache your route and that helps if you're in poor service areas. I use mine almost everyday, and all day long, it never misses a step.
I came from the Captivate and I can tell you it's excellent. I get an approximate location within 2-3 seconds, and an accurate location within about 7-8 seconds. And by accurate within 5 feet or about 1.5M. I was surprised how fast and accurate the GPS was on my phone. This was while indoors, I'm sure if you went outside you could lock on a few seconds faster.
I think you have your answer OP.
Keep in mind Google Maps will use the cell towers to get location. Google will even work if you disable the GSP. I use Navigon. I like having the maps on my phone just in case. I also use BackCountry Navigator. Both these programs will only use the GPS. The Atrix GPS is great. I has always lock in 10 12 seconds or less. If you use GPS Status to download the A-GPS XTRA Data, it will lock in 1 to 3 seconds. The Atrix GPS seems to be very accurate also.
I found it to be awesome on froyo and real iffy on gingerbread.
I don't use GPS but with all the talk going on about GPS I thought I would try that GPS test program on my Transformer Prime. Is the attached picture a good response? I'm not sure what SNR means but it appears to have picked up quite a few sats.
For a Prime its pretty good as many people including myself get nothing.
SNR means signal to noise ratio. Which is an indicator for signal quality. In comparison to other devices the SNR is not so good.
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I don't use GPS but with all the talk going on about GPS I thought I would try that GPS test program on my Transformer Prime. Is the attached picture a good response? I'm not sure what SNR means but it appears to have picked up quite a few sats.
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That's average, mine is also like this, but it won't ever locate you any closer than that and if you move you lose signal.
Compared to my Galaxy Note...
I got zero's across the board on my prime...for sh*ts and giggles, I decided to compare to my galaxy note.
Note with GPS only accuracy down to about 225-250 feet, SNR on 12-14 satellites ranged from 18-27 or so...
When I add sensors to the mix, accuracy goes to 45 feet... (about same SNR)...
All and all I am continually amazed at the galaxy note... (gps on prime is nice to have for me... my car has nav and clearly the galaxy can do it!)
It seems for a "premium" tablet, they'd have put forth premium components and subsystems like GPS...
on the plus(and unrelated) my wifi has been solid...which is key for me...
Interpreting YOUR numbers
Here is what your pic is telling you:
GPS Status: Green - You have a lock...Your "location (car)" will track you as you move.
Yellow - GPS is active, but you do not have GPS lock and is still searching for satellites
Red - GPS is inactive
Accuracy - 36 ft isn't bad...GPS alone (without AGPS) is going to be about 30 ft. AGPS will improve that number. I have seen numbers as low as 6-10 ft. This also depends on where the "active" sats are...If they are low (at the horizon), the accuracy won't be as good....If your sat's are at about 45 degrees in the sky will give the best reading. As the accuracy gets worse, as you're moving, the map indicator may show you traveling in a median, field, thru houses, etc - so although it shows you, your actual location is off.
Chart - Satellites with SNR below 20 most likely will not lock. Depending on the system (I don't know this one well enough yet) it takes 3-4 above 20 to get a lock (some systems require 5-6 sats)....When most numbers are in the very low 20's, although you have lock....you probably will lose lock at times during your trip....how long is loses lock will vary and depends on when it can pick up some higher numbers...Sometimes, it's only seconds, sometimes it's minutes...when it happens, you won't be tracked. The numbers at the very bottom are the satellite numbers....There are about 32-36 active satellites floating around in space...being able to see 13 means you are seeing pretty much the maximum number available at your location.
Hope this helps your understanding.
Bob
To possibly improve an already decent reading, I'd try the mods found in these 2 threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1520642
and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1533776
I've flashed clean and joelz stock, but for three days, GPS cannot locate any better than around 40 meters.
On Meanrom I usually got a lock within 10 metres in a matter of seconds.
Anyone else having this problem?
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Haven't seen this problem. My phone's GPS performance actually increased, and locates much faster and much more accurate. It does, however, sometimes pop back and forth between exact location, and a triangulated location using cell towers, and it happens a second apart. It usually fixes itself after a few seconds.
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Haven't seen this problem. My phone's GPS performance actually increased, and locates much faster and much more accurate.
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Same here, also, on GB my compass was about 50 degrees off, on ics its about 5 off. Overall a significant improvement.
I also have no problem with GPS. Locks quick (less than 5 seconds) with clear open area.
No problem with GPS here...
Mean Tom had a special tweak to improve GPS. Your ics rom does not.
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What times are you getting on your Note 2? I'm coming from a Charge that was decent (15 seconds +) but had an HTC Incredible which was FAST (5 seconds) and worked well even indoors.
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Diginut said:
What times are you getting on your Note 2? I'm coming from a Charge that was decent (15 seconds +) but had an HTC Incredible which was FAST (5 seconds) and worked well even indoors.
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Superfast. Literally 1-2 seconds once I open maps.
2 seconds for about 7 sats...
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I came from the Incredible and it's much faster. I just tested it indoors and it was instantaneous. My Incredible would have taken around 15 seconds since it's indoor and outside about 5 like yours.
Diginut said:
What times are you getting on your Note 2? I'm coming from a Charge that was decent (15 seconds +) but had an HTC Incredible which was FAST (5 seconds) and worked well even indoors.
Thanks.
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Coming from my Droid Razr Maxx, the acquisition on the Note 2 time is so much quicker, literally 2 seconds. The worst so far has been about 5 seconds. The Razr Maxx , especially indoors, in the same spots would not even acquire position or would take so long it wouldn't be useful.
Instant.
1-2 seconds.
Well i guess I'll join the crowd. Instant for me too. Outside anyway. A bit longer inside.
hi, I noticed that when I activate any running apps(runkeeper, mapmyrun etc) with gps and data(3g) , even though im stationery...the app icons(tat represent me) would move around on its own... clocking distance.......is there anything wrong with my omate? what can I do...pls advice.....
rayblade said:
hi, I noticed that when I activate any running apps(runkeeper, mapmyrun etc) with gps and data(3g) , even though im stationery...the app icons(tat represent me) would move around on its own... clocking distance.......is there anything wrong with my omate? what can I do...pls advice.....
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The TS GPS can be quite good. It is better than my Garmin ForeRunner 305 (still one of the best GPS receivers) 4 out of 5 GPS points or so. Occasionally though, there is a point far off other times the accuracy just decreases some minutes.
With EPO (use MT GPS app) and A-GPS it locks very fast too.
There is a HW problem though, the GPS antenna can snap. But then you will not get a lock at all.
It is normal that GPS units shows speed when still, especially with bad coverage, you have to compare with a known reference GPS to say if the TS is bad/good
There is minimal difference for apps (most only have some smoothing differences)
I believe IpBike is the best running app.
gerhardo said:
The TS GPS can be quite good. It is better than my Garmin ForeRunner 305 (still one of the best GPS receivers) 4 out of 5 GPS points or so. Occasionally though, there is a point far off other times the accuracy just decreases some minutes.
With EPO (use MT GPS app) and A-GPS it locks very fast too.
There is a HW problem though, the GPS antenna can snap. But then you will not get a lock at all.
It is normal that GPS units shows speed when still, especially with bad coverage, you have to compare with a known reference GPS to say if the TS is bad/good
There is minimal difference for apps (most only have some smoothing differences)
I believe IpBike is the best running app.
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hi, the funny thing is that the distance keep accumulating.......when I havent even started running.
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hi, the funny thing is that the distance keep accumulating.......when I havent even started running.
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It is normal, if you have started timing.
Due to accurracy, the GPS position is not exactly the same everytime, it is like throwing darts.
The GPS can be good.