Just have a quick question,i read that you can still flash custom roms even if your s-on as long as you have a unlocked bootloader,is this true? If so will there be any down fall to this? Stuff not working right,data connection,ect.. And if so is the a certain rom to flash or it doesnt really matter..
marcviado said:
Just have a quick question,i read that you can still flash custom roms even if your s-on as long as you have a unlocked bootloader,is this true? If so will there be any down fall to this? Stuff not working right,data connection,ect.. And if so is the a certain rom to flash or it doesnt really matter..
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It is possible to flash roms with S-on and unlocked bootloader, but you can not flash ICS based roms if you are still on gingerbread OS. You must first flash the ICS RUU through hboot/bootloader then your phone will have the new radio and the updated partitions and the phone will be able flash any rom. after unlocking again and flashing a custom recovery of course....
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Don't forget, because you're S-On you will still need to flash the kernel. But if you're using 4EXT, recommended recovery, then there is no need to worry about it.
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Double0EK said:
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Don't forget, because you're S-On you will still need to flash the kernel. But if you're using 4EXT, recommended recovery, then there is no need to worry about it.
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4 sure...
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Will dev's now require to have S-OFF to flash their ROM's, Kernels, etc. ?
Or will you guys provide options when flashing based on if you're S-ON/S-OFF?
I have not done the "S-OFF" process on my Rezound yet and don't feel that I really need to do it since I am completely and totally happy with Ineffabilis GB with the last official OTA radios. I am patient enough to wait for the official ICS OTA update plus I'm scared I might brick my phone during the process
S-OFF is only if you need to change radios. If you like the one you got then your phone if went to the ICS leak and had problems then you can go back to GB.
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DigiDave said:
Will dev's now require to have S-OFF to flash their ROM's, Kernels, etc. ?
Or will you guys provide options when flashing based on if you're S-ON/S-OFF?
I have not done the "S-OFF" process on my Rezound yet and don't feel that I really need to do it since I am completely and totally happy with Ineffabilis GB with the last official OTA radios. I am patient enough to wait for the official ICS OTA update plus I'm scared I might brick my phone during the process
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Im sure the developer will note on their thread if it will be needed. I highly doubt it will be required unless flashing critical files.
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DigiDave said:
Will dev's now require to have S-OFF to flash their ROM's, Kernels, etc. ?
Or will you guys provide options when flashing based on if you're S-ON/S-OFF?
I have not done the "S-OFF" process on my Rezound yet and don't feel that I really need to do it since I am completely and totally happy with Ineffabilis GB with the last official OTA radios. I am patient enough to wait for the official ICS OTA update plus I'm scared I might brick my phone during the process
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The only difference could be that you would still have to use the PH98IMG method or use fastboot to flash the appropriate kernel for the ROM instead of just doing it all with the ROM flash.
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The only difference could be that you would still have to use the PH98IMG method or use fastboot to flash the appropriate kernel for the ROM instead of just doing it all with the ROM flash.
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...and making and restoring backups will include the kernels with s-off.
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Will dev's now require to have S-OFF to flash their ROM's, Kernels, etc. ?
Or will you guys provide options when flashing based on if you're S-ON/S-OFF?
I have not done the "S-OFF" process on my Rezound yet and don't feel that I really need to do it since I am completely and totally happy with Ineffabilis GB with the last official OTA radios. I am patient enough to wait for the official ICS OTA update plus I'm scared I might brick my phone during the process
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I hope they require it. The inability to flash boot images via recovery has been a major roadblock for development and there is no reason for it to continue. There is no reason not to S-OFF. If you don't S-OFF your device then you will have to fastboot flash everything or manually create your own PH98IMG files.
con247 said:
I hope they require it. The inability to flash boot images via recovery has been a major roadblock for development and there is no reason for it to continue. There is no reason not to S-OFF. If you don't S-OFF your device then you will have to fastboot flash everything or manually create your own PH98IMG files.
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Just curious. How has flashing method been a roadblock to development? I'm not trying to be a smartass, I just don't see it.
What exactly are the benefits of gaining s-off ??
I am confused...i have a gsm evo 3d and some tutorials are of s-off and others s-on ?
What will be the best... i am a newbie at this !
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With S-OFF you can flash PG86IMG.zip files from SD card in bootloader (ICS firmware, radio...), also you don't have to always flash boot.img via fastboot after flashing of new ROM.
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Benik3 said:
With S-OFF you can flash PG86IMG.zip files from SD card in bootloader (ICS firmware, radio...), also you don't have to always flash boot.img via fastboot after flashing of new ROM.
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To add to this, s-on seems to not play well with ics. Most of the issues people have with ics not working right or bootlooping come from s-on users. I highly recommend s-off if possible.
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invince2 said:
What exactly are the benefits of gaining s-off ??
I am confused...i have a gsm evo 3d and some tutorials are of s-off and others s-on ?
What will be the best... i am a newbie at this !
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Yeah, you should definitely go with the tutorials for S-OFF if you are flashing new Roms, and expertimenting with your phone. For the most ICS roms, you have to flash new firmware packages (PG86IMG.zip), and you can do this if you are S-OFF.
It means if i have s-on i can't flash every rom but if i gain s-off it allows full compatibilty?
Am i right ?
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With S-OFF you can flash PG86IMG.zip files from SD card in bootloader (ICS firmware, radio...), also you don't have to always flash boot.img via fastboot after flashing of new ROM.
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Where exactly did u find the tutorial for s-off?
invince2 said:
It means if i have s-on i can't flash every rom but if i gain s-off it allows full compatibilty?
Am i right ?
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Absolutely correct. Not just compatibility with roms, but with every e3d addon.
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invince2 said:
Where exactly did u find the tutorial for s-off?
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Since you are GSM, look at the stickies in the GSM developmental forums.
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I would say go with S-off. I had S-on and it took so much work to get new roms and it was just a pain in the butt. I am now running revolutionary S-off and am using 4ext recovery so i can easily put on new roms in just a few mins. I hope i helped.
Ah crap i just reported this thread for posting warez by goddamn mistake!
My bad
Keeping on topic: I'd say definitely S-off and there is loads of threads on how to do it. Just have a read through them all and try it out, ask for help if you need it and someone is bound to help
taylor308 said:
I would say go with S-off. I had S-on and it took so much work to get new roms and it was just a pain in the butt. I am now running revolutionary S-off and am using 4ext recovery so i can easily put on new roms in just a few mins. I hope i helped.
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But 4ext recovery is available on s-on !
S off makes it easier to flash roms along with any kernel . Best route to go.
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I have two EVO 3d's one is s-on and the other is s-off, both running 4ext touch recovery and both have the same experiance and the same battery life, no extra steps needed to flash roms or kernels..only thing is that only signed packages can be flashed through the bootloader, other than that...no difference.
S off is a life saver. It just is. No matter what HTC does if a dev can get s off for my device. I'm doing it.
If some one gets a new EVO LTE with the new OTA. Can it be rooted with the HTC TOOL?
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If some one gets a new EVO LTE with the new OTA. Can it be rooted with the HTC TOOL?
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Yes.
cswtexas9 said:
If some one gets a new EVO LTE with the new OTA. Can it be rooted with the HTC TOOL?
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Yes, you can use HTCDev to unlock it, and then flash a custom recovery and root the ROM (or flash a custom one).
What phone do I choose?
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Yes, you can use HTCDev to unlock it, and then flash a custom recovery and root the ROM (or flash a custom one).
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I do not see the EVO LTE listed
cswtexas9 said:
I do not see the EVO LTE listed
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"All Other Supported Models" at the bottom of the list.
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"All Other Supported Models" at the bottom of the list.
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i'm nowhere close to doing it because i'm still enamored with the stock phone, but i'm beginning my investigations now...
from what i gather there's no real need to get s-off if all you're going to do is load a recovery and flash roms/kernels and rooting (just tell me if that's not correct)
but the question i have is, if you use the HTCDev tool, does that automatically flag you as a warranty violator? i want to be able to tinker someday, but i don't want to hang myself by it, and i like the thought of knowing i can just run an RUU and get back to stock.
If you have insurance on it, you will be fine. You will get a new one b4 yours even makes it to htc
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i'm nowhere close to doing it because i'm still enamored with the stock phone, but i'm beginning my investigations now...
from what i gather there's no real need to get s-off if all you're going to do is load a recovery and flash roms/kernels and rooting (just tell me if that's not correct)
but the question i have is, if you use the HTCDev tool, does that automatically flag you as a warranty violator? i want to be able to tinker someday, but i don't want to hang myself by it, and i like the thought of knowing i can just run an RUU and get back to stock.
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If you've taken the latest OTA, only flashing ROMs is possible while begin unlocked (currently).
Besides the fact that HTC could only prove that you requested an unlock code - they can't really prove you used it unless you leave it that way if you need to return it.
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If you've taken the latest OTA, only flashing ROMs is possible while begin unlocked (currently).
Besides the fact that HTC could only prove that you requested an unlock code - they can't really prove you used it unless you leave it that way if you need to return it.
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only flashing ROMs or ROMs and custom recovery? if no recovery, how would you flash ROMs?
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only flashing ROMs or ROMs and custom recovery? if no recovery, how would you flash ROMs?
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Of course, custom recovery, too. You wouldn't be able to flash ROMs otherwise . But that's it.
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Of course, custom recovery, too. You wouldn't be able to flash ROMs otherwise . But that's it.
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lol, i figured as much, but that's all i really needed for clarity
odds are good the most i'd want to do would be to flash recovery so i could get good backups and of course root. but i'd just run rooted stock. wouldn't likely bother flashing any ROMs until CM9 or CM10 come available
Hi everyone, I feel very sorry for this question, I am a noob and not so well in Androis system and I get so confused on all the instruction that I've read on the discussion.
My question is this, I really dont know if I can flash custom ROM such as CoolFlyer or Leedroid ROM for my HTC Flyer WIFI, My HTC Flyer is
unlocked already but still S-ON, with HBOOT 1.11.0011, and it has also a Revolutionary CWM v.4.0.1.4. It is also in Stock Honeycomb ROM
Actually I paid only some Technician to root my phone and I gain S-ON Unlocked, the problem is he did'nt rollback it into Gingerbread thats why I am not sure on how will I installed custom ROM like CoolFlyer.
.3 or
Can someone to inform me how can i make it S-OFF, and if im S-ON still can I flash Custom ROM like Leedroid HC V.4.3 or Cool 3dHoney v.6?
Thanks and really appreciated your help.
Just follow the guides here in the Flyer Android Development forum
My honest opinion is that you should roll back to gb and gain s off. Anyone you paid should of done so. You can flash roms from your current state but it requiresyou to learn how to use fastboot commands
Flyer
mcord11758 said:
My honest opinion is that you should roll back to gb and gain s off. Anyone you paid should of done so. You can flash roms from your current state but it requiresyou to learn how to use fastboot commands
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so you mean i can flash rom even i am s-on and still in HC Stock ROM?
xchan21 said:
so you mean i can flash rom even i am s-on and still in HC Stock ROM?
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Pretty much. Though you'll need to manually flash the boot.img file from the ROM after every installation, or the system won't boot and you'll be stuck on HTC logo screen, and of course a custom recovery to be able to flash ROMs
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Pretty much. Though you'll need to manually flash the boot.img file from the ROM after every installation, or the system won't boot and you'll be stuck on HTC logo screen, and of course a custom recovery to be able to flash ROMs
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Thanks for the help. Really appreciated
Hi i want to root my phone but it requires to flash recovery.. what will happen if i flash a bad recovery? Does it brick my phone? Or cause a bootloop?
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No, it simply wont flash as it will probably have bad headers. Even if you did succeed in flashing it, it wouldn't bootloop because it's a different system (area). The only way you can brick a phone is by flashing radios/hboot/etc. Even then, it's really hard to do so. You can check for corruption by testing the ZIP with WinRAR.
I'll give you this advice, also. Don't be afraid. Your device is harder to break than you think. Once you root your phone, you're gonna want a ROM. But then you're gonna say 'screw Sense! I want Cyanogenmod!' Now before you know it, you're pimped out on KitKat enjoying the breeze.
If you need any more information, feel free to quote me and ask about what you need.
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No, it simply wont flash as it will probably have bad headers. Even if you did succeed in flashing it, it wouldn't bootloop because it's a different system (area). The only way you can brick a phone is by flashing radios/hboot/etc. Even then, it's really hard to do so. You can check for corruption by testing the ZIP with WinRAR.
I'll give you this advice, also. Don't be afraid. Your device is harder to break than you think. Once you root your phone, you're gonna want a ROM. But then you're gonna say 'screw Sense! I want Cyanogenmod!' Now before you know it, you're pimped out on KitKat enjoying the breeze.
If you need any more information, feel free to quote me and ask about what you need.
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Thanks mate .. i have lg phone before and softbrick it when i flash a recovery, so this phone is safe to root ? If my recovery fails it will just boot normally like nothing happens? And i can flash new recovery till i succeed?
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sunnypig01 said:
Thanks mate .. i have lg phone before and softbrick it when i flash a recovery, so this phone is safe to root ? If my recovery fails it will just boot normally like nothing happens? And i can flash new recovery till i succeed?
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Yes, with the HTC Evo 3D, flashing a recovery will not hurt you. If it fails, it probably wont flash or wont boot the recovery. You can keep trying.
ROMs wont hurt ya, recoveries one hurt ya, but bootloaders can. So when you change your hboot, be careful. After the years I've had my 3vo though I've learned it's not very difficult to keep this phone in shape .
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Yes, with the HTC Evo 3D, flashing a recovery will not hurt you. If it fails, it probably wont flash or wont boot the recovery. You can keep trying.
ROMs wont hurt ya, recoveries one hurt ya, but bootloaders can. So when you change your hboot, be careful. After the years I've had my 3vo though I've learned it's not very difficult to keep this phone in shape .
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Dude.. thank you I succesfully rooted my phone and installed cwm recovery.. but now i want to change it to 4ext because i read that 4ext is recommended for s-on users to flash roms.. cn i flash it over cwm?
sunnypig01 said:
Dude.. thank you I succesfully rooted my phone and installed cwm recovery.. but now i want to change it to 4ext because i read that 4ext is recommended for s-on users to flash roms.. cn i flash it over cwm?
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Yes you can. Just flash it like you flashed CWM. There's no issue with it.
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Yes you can. Just flash it like you flashed CWM. There's no issue with it.
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Thank u so much i succesfully flash 4ext recovery.. now i want to install rom. Any rom u suggest that works on my hboot and s-on
sunnypig01 said:
Thank u so much i succesfully flash 4ext recovery.. now i want to install rom. Any rom u suggest that works on my hboot and s-on
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1. Cool ICS v18
2. YAS4 v11
ze7zez said:
1. Cool ICS v18
2. YAS4 v11
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Does it work in my hboot ? Thanks for your reply
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Does it work in my hboot ?
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You have s-on, so what are you afraid of?