So, I've been running the ICS leak from April on my original RAZR since the day it came out and I absolutely love it. I have also been reading all of the speculative posts about the" official" release to be available soon. I have 2 questions/concerns that I would love to hear some opinions.
1. What will the official release give me that the leak doesn't?
2. How do I back up all of my apps and progress on my games if I do decide to update?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Slicing through treads with my RAZR
wollitaj said:
So, I've been running the ICS leak from April on my original RAZR since the day it came out and I absolutely love it. I have also been reading all of the speculative posts about the" official" release to be available soon. I have 2 questions/concerns that I would love to hear some opinions.
1. What will the official release give me that the leak doesn't?
2. How do I back up all of my apps and progress on my games if I do decide to update?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Slicing through treads with my RAZR
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To answer your question effectively, we will require more information. Which leak are you running and are you rooted?
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1. What will the official release give me that the leak doesn't?
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You'll get an improved system, bug free and possible new blur and features.
2. How do I back up all of my apps and progress on my games if I do decide to update?
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You can use either Titanium backup or mybackup pro to save your data 'n apps.
Cheers
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pedrotorresfilho said:
You'll get an improved system, bug free and possible new blur and features.
You can use either Titanium backup or mybackup pro to save your data 'n apps.
Cheers
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LMAO....We can only wish the official release will be "bug free"...We all know that won't be the case. It never is. They fix one thing, and break another.
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You'll get an improved system, bug free
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loooool!
I think they are working hard for this major update, new build every 10 days should prove Moto won't fail...
(Should)
V1TRU said:
I think they are working hard for this major update, new build every 10 days should prove Moto won't fail...
(Should)
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Yeah they "should" but it won't be like this. But i think that the ICS update will be mostly bug free.
And if they don't open up the bootloader they will partially fail by losing some customers..
kostastoupas said:
Yeah they "should" but it won't be like this. But i think that the ICS update will be mostly bug free.
And if they don't open up the bootloader they will partially fail by losing some customers..
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Right on! Unlockable bootloader would be HUGE! I hope ICS for the RAZR is better than that of the Nexus....Nexus 4.0.2 is very buggy!
DrSadistic said:
To answer your question effectively, we will require more information. Which leak are you running and are you rooted?
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My version is 6.14.75 running 4.0.3 and I am not currently rooted but I assume I can with RAZR utility.
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Lol 84 is extremely nice. Better than 75 . Moto is really working on a full nice release. I can only guess 204 is better. The ota will have less bugs than 8r does and I haven't encountered any issues in 2 weeks of use. Ota will be very nice without a doubt
It will be bug free, or close. Leaked betas point this way. It may have bugs but will be really impressive SO. Probably much better andstable than actual gb.
Btw. I think you guys are too smart to believe in a 100% bug free system. Think you got it
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Here is the CDMA Razr update:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=IRC7YVU8
I am not in the soak test group. This was pushed to my phone and I installed it with forever root applied and lost root. Tried the zerg one-click method afterwards and it wouldn't take. Did it AGAIN and it did. Rooted!
DISCLAIMER: Not responsible yada yada yada
mistawolfe said:
Here is the CDMA Razr update: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=IRC7YVU8
I kept root using p3's forever root.
Enjoy!
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Soak test? Wrists been updated
detr0yt said:
Soak test? Wrists been updated
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Official. It was pushed to my phone. Pulled it from /cache then updated. Good to go.
My phone came with this version?? I'm confused.
DO NOT apply this update unless you want to lose root. Wait for the preroot from Nitro in a bit...
I just got my replacement Razr with this version.
seanmcd72 said:
My phone came with this version?? I'm confused.
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+1
Plus the file is only 57 mg!
quadjacks said:
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Plus the file is only 57 mg!
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It's only 57mb b/c it's an update, not a full system change.
Bug fixer, and let me tell you - it didn't fix any. Data is horrible.
Sorry bro but this isn't the update.
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You guys do realize that Moto names their updates with the system version you are coming from and not the version you will be going to.
Root can be retained on the en.EU update using Supercurio's OTA Rootkeeper app, I would wager the same is true of the VZW favoured RAZR. Risky business without a stock ROM to revert back to, mind you.
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Should this not be Blur_Version.6.11.748.XT912.Verizon.en.US.zip??
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Should this not be Blur_Version.6.11.748.XT912.Verizon.en.US.zip??
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It will take you to 748, but the zip will have the build number of the system you are coming from.
Thanks Nitro. I'm new to the Moto way of updates. Been with HTC.
So is this the update our not?
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I find it odd that the Verizon site lists the instructions and "changelog" for the update, yet doesn't list the actual file for the upgrade. And I'm not sure why some people (myself included) haven't received the OTA either.
As for "improved camera features", I wonder what they changed - the shots I'm getting are slightly bluish, and foggy with the flash.
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I find it odd that the Verizon site lists the instructions and "changelog" for the update, yet doesn't list the actual file for the upgrade. And I'm not sure why some people (myself included) haven't received the OTA either.
As for "improved camera features", I wonder what they changed - the shots I'm getting are slightly bluish, and foggy with the flash.
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No ota for me...vzw site doesn't even show my razr as my device...greyed out flip phone from 1999
jcjr81 said:
Sorry bro but this isn't the update.
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It absolutely is the update. Check system update on your phone. I'm not in the soak test.
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traumadog said:
And I'm not sure why some people (myself included) haven't received the OTA either.
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The update isn't official yet. You're aparently not a beta tester.
traumadog said:
I find it odd that the Verizon site lists the instructions and "changelog" for the update, yet doesn't list the actual file for the upgrade. And I'm not sure why some people (myself included) haven't received the OTA either.
As for "improved camera features", I wonder what they changed - the shots I'm getting are slightly bluish, and foggy with the flash.
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The camera is quicker to load from lock screen. Additionally, it snaps much faster.
If you guys want to force the update (this worked for me) click system update notifications under sound settings and reboot. Worked for me.
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http://news.verizonwireless.com/news/2012/03/bl2012-03-06.html
Wahoo.... now as to WHEN?
This could be wishful thinking, but tomorrow maybe?
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This could be wishful thinking, but tomorrow maybe?
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Oh I am sure. Yes. Tomorrow. Maybe later today. Yeaaaahhhhhhhhzhxw..
*sarcasm meter breaks*
drtchocky said:
Oh I am sure. Yes. Tomorrow. Maybe later today. Yeaaaahhhhhhhhzhxw..
*sarcasm meter breaks*
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Ha, I was contemplating saying that instead. But to stay serious, this is pretty awesome. I might hold off rooting if the date gets announced soon. I think it was perfect time to get rid of my incredible since it's not in the list.
I heard "later this year" for the Rezound on a recent Verizon twitter post.... I'm not holding my breath. And even this link says "sometime this year". That's pretty vague if you ask me.
drtchocky said:
http://news.verizonwireless.com/news/2012/03/bl2012-03-06.html
Wahoo.... now as to WHEN?
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Ah... from the thread title I thought it was just about new phones with ICS pre-installed.
Why is it up to Verizon anyway? I don't need to get windows updates from my ISP. I don't get why things have to be so different on cell phones. (Other than greed and control, which leads back to greed.)
Rezound will be the Last to get Update as shown on Verizon List . Nicely done Verizon
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Rezound will be the Last to get Update as shown on Verizon List . Nicely done Verizon
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Yeah Verizon is just kicking ass all over the board.
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Didn't the Motorola Xoom already get ICS?
Rezound on the bottom of the list.
krelvinaz said:
Didn't the Motorola Xoom already get ICS?
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I don't think the 3g/4g version did.
I doubt the order of the list dictates the order of update as we (resound) have a very solid leak of ics. Does the rhyme or Droid inc 2 yet?
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andersonrt said:
I doubt the order of the list dictates the order of update as we (resound) have a very solid leak of ics. Does the rhyme or Droid inc 2 yet?
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I know, I bet if they were to release ICS tomorrow with Sense 4.0 and people would be like "I'm sooo pissed that they didn't give it to us yesterday! I mean, you know they had it ready, why didn't they just release it?".
People just need to relax already, have some patience. Also, I really doubt Verizon had a huge executive meeting/decision for the order in which devices were listed. Plus, with the Rom options available to you for it in the last couple of days - you have you're option RIGHT NOW.
krelvinaz said:
Didn't the Motorola Xoom already get ICS?
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i got the official ics update on my transformer(which may be the only tab so far) but no ics on xoom yet.
voxigenboy said:
i got the official ics update on my transformer(which may be the only tab so far) but no ics on xoom yet.
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my wifi xoom has had it for a while now..they just haven't done it for 3g/4g version..
this list is essentially what HTC already confirmed? that we would get ics..
I'm glad I updated from the X2 to the Rezound. I was almost certain the X2 wouldn't get it. It wasn't a very popular phone, it has half the RAM as the Droid Incredible 2 as well I think.
The list is in chronological order, from oldest phone to newest, by manufacturer. No conspiracy against the Rezound.
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I'm glad I updated from the X2 to the Rezound. I was almost certain the X2 wouldn't get it. It wasn't a very popular phone, it has half the RAM as the Droid Incredible 2 as well I think.
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I'm pretty sure the INC2 and the Thunderbolt have 768MB of RAM and the X2 has 512.
So it would seem 768 is the cutoff point, at least roughly.
tekhna said:
The list is in chronological order, from oldest phone to newest, by manufacturer. No conspiracy against the Rezound.
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pfff ofcourse there is.. if we can start a thread from a ""..we can totally start a conspiracy theory with the order listed.
anyone know if the ics ota update is really coming this week?so much conflicting info on the other forums,i have unfroze all my bloatware and am pateintly waiting......
Everything I have read points to it rolling out tomorrow, haven't really seen any conflicting info, seems pretty consistent.
in order to recieve the OTA update do i need to get rid of my root?
djerk said:
anyone know if the ics ota update is really coming this week?so much conflicting info on the other forums,i have unfroze all my bloatware and am pateintly waiting......
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yeah i know! i work for verizon and its rolling out to YOUR device tomorrow at 3:01 AM Eastern time!! ENJOY!!!
bryannh said:
in order to recieve the OTA update do i need to get rid of my root?
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From what I've seen and heard, being rooted won't prevent you from receiving this OTA, but you will lose root access unless you backup su and temp-unroot with Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper or the like.
I also work for BIG RED and OTA will be be rolling out of tomorrow.
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I wonder if the leaked ICS is the same as the OTA?
The only word anyone's seen is from Best Buy, not Verizon or Moto. The fact that the leak/soak test exists is a sign we're close(but who knows how close). I guess we'll all be really happy, or super pissed tomorrow @3:01 am... Lol
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ralphie0108 said:
I also work for BIG RED and OTA will be be rolling out of tomorrow.
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Only for CDMA model or GSM too??
If only CDMA, do you kown when will be rolling out for GSM?
Big Red deals with CDMA only, they wouldn't know the GSM date.
Seihaku is correct. We only know about t CDMA roll outs. But hopefully soon
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Seihaku said:
Big Red deals with CDMA only, they wouldn't know the GSM date.
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Thank you for the information. If someone else didnt post this, I wouldve threw on my Captain Obvious suit and made a presence lol
draga277 said:
Only for CDMA model or GSM too??
If only CDMA, do you kown when will be rolling out for GSM?
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Unlikely to be soon, seeing as there are no known soak tests for ICS on the XT910 yet. Knowing Moto's treatment of their GSM users, we probably won't get an ICS OTA until the MAXX is out over here... in May.
Lol the funny thing is that we were supposed to get it before us.
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Have they even pushed that soak yet? Signup is still open as of the last time I looked.
romdroid. said:
Lol the funny thing is that we were supposed to get it before us.
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Most likely scenario is that the ICS work was originally being carried out for the GSM RAZR, then someone in management intervened and made the DROID RAZR a priority due to Moto's contract with Verizon. I imagine once the ICS update goes live and there are no showstoppers, they'll continue to QA test the update internally for about a month before pushing it out as a soak test for a week, before finally pushing the release version.
gunness1991 said:
yeah i know! i work for verizon and its rolling out to YOUR device tomorrow at 3:01 AM Eastern time!! ENJOY!!!
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I am going to assume you are being sarcastic right but if not that would be outstanding
MillionManMosh said:
Have they even pushed that soak yet? Signup is still open as of the last time I looked.
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Can u post a link for signup
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Dinc79 said:
Can u post a link for signup
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You'll have to go on the Moto forums and update your profile to opt-in with your IMEI. They're still sending out emails but as far as I know they haven't launched the actual test.
madmikeuk said:
Unlikely to be soon, seeing as there are no known soak tests for ICS on the XT910 yet. Knowing Moto's treatment of their GSM users, we probably won't get an ICS OTA until the MAXX is out over here... in May.
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I hope in a GSM beta version leaked soon!
Now I'm running a mod 4.0.3 rom based
I'll try to sign me up for the soak...
So I received a notification saying that there is a software update for my rogers branded razr. When click the link for the release notes it says the article is no longer available. Anyone try out the update yet?
I'm on Rogers and I have never seen that. and trust me I check every hour haha.
B407 said:
So I received a notification saying that there is a software update for my rogers branded razr. When click the link for the release notes it says the article is no longer available. Anyone try out the update yet?
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If you get it, save to install later option. Copy the file after that and share with us if this really comes out.
Thanks
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pedrotorresfilho said:
If you get it, save to install later option. Copy the file after that and share with us if this really comes out.
Thanks
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How do I do that? the only options I have are download which I assume would download the software and install right away, the second option is 'later' which dismisses the notification for 24 hours and 'cancel' to skip this upgrade.
The file size is only about 96mb so im pretty sure its not ICS. Im assuming its something relatively minor.
Mmmm, sounds interesting. I would like 2.3.6?? I have not received anything yet.
B407 said:
How do I do that? the only options I have are download which I assume would download the software and install right away, the second option is 'later' which dismisses the notification for 24 hours and 'cancel' to skip this upgrade.
The file size is only about 96mb so im pretty sure its not ICS. Im assuming its something relatively minor.
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Download it. Gr8
Tell us more about it. Anyone else getting it?
What's version info?
It's probably some bug fixes, maybe 2.3.6 and a nice radio update
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pedrotorresfilho said:
If you get it, save to install later option. Copy the file after that and share with us if this really comes out.
Thanks
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Yeah, I'm absolutely agree. B407 don't leave us w/o update dude!
its a FAAAAAAAKKKKKE
gunness1991 said:
its a FAAAAAAAKKKKKE
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U think? Oh man.. :/
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It most certainly isn't fake, however It fails when I download and try to install, I'm guessing because my phone is rooted. It updates the build version from 651.73.240 to 651.167.3331. No details are provided by either Motorola or Rogers, I am very curious to find out what this fixes (or potentially breaks).
if anyone tells me where to find the file i just downloaded on my phone speak now so i can find it and upload it
its approx 98 mb
btw the next time you announce an update like said above, PICS OR ITS FAKE!
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It most certainly isn't fake, however It fails when I download and try to install, I'm guessing because my phone is rooted. It updates the build version from 651.73.240 to 651.167.3331. No details are provided by either Motorola or Rogers, I am very curious to find out what this fixes (or potentially breaks).
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So, it's real?
My razr is kind of broken due radio issues and a radio update should fix it
Oh man. Lol
Sent this by tweeter to some android news. They'll spread it and soon we'll get a feedback
Do the same guys
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pedrotorresfilho said:
So, it's real?
My razr is kind of broken due radio issues and a radio update should fix it
Oh man. Lol
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Real for sure, and now we have pics! Haha. Anyways the only issues I've had with my RAZR thus far is on certain low end games (Angry Birds, Bejeweled 2 etc) the phone will hang for almost 5 seconds at a time randomly. But runs fine and ultra smooth with anything 3D and Graphics demanding (ShadowGun). Strange to say the least, as well kinda annoying but livable.
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Real for sure, and now we have pics! Haha. Anyways the only issues I've had with my RAZR thus far is on certain low end games (Angry Birds, Bejeweled 2 etc) the phone will hang for almost 5 seconds at a time randomly. But runs fine and ultra smooth with anything 3D and Graphics demanding (ShadowGun). Strange to say the least, as well kinda annoying but livable.
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Mine broke and I gota a replacement, but this one also came buged :/
Radio isn't okay. Gps is nuts lol
An ota is exactly what I was waiting for, may fix it you know?
Lets see it
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Yes, it's real. I just updated my Rogers Razr. It's a 2.3.6 update (bug fixed). Thanks!
System version: 651.167.3331.xt910.Rogers.en.CA
Baseband: U_1C.76.0FP
Webtop: WT-2.0.0-139_EN
Kernel: 2.6.35.7-g72edff0
AP flex: ....P042, ..........A014
Build:6.5.1-167_SLC-M33.1
Build date: Feb 23....2012.
it keeps failing for me.. weird
but i do have it sim unlocked from fido and using rogers
damn well i think i know whats going on
im using rogers and its downloading the rogers update but wont update it over the fido rom
crap.
tycol said:
Yes, it's real. I just updated my Rogers Razr. It's a 2.3.6 update (bug fixed). Thanks!
System version: 651.167.3331.xt910.Rogers.en.CA
Baseband: U_1C.76.0FP
Webtop: WT-2.0.0-139_EN
Kernel: 2.6.35.7-g72edff0
AP flex: ....P042, ..........A014
Build:6.5.1-167_SLC-M33.1
Build date: Feb 23....2012.
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Can you share it with us? I'm trying to get this too but will take a lot here. lol
Thanks
pedrotorresfilho said:
Can you share it with us? I'm trying to get this too but will take a lot here. lol
Thanks
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Sorry dude. Really don't know how to extract the update files. I am just a new guy...
pedrotorresfilho said:
Mine broke and I gota a replacement, but this one also came buged :/
Radio isn't okay. Gps is nuts lol
An ota is exactly what I was waiting for, may fix it you know?
Lets see it
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where is the update file located?
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where is the update file located?
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It's on /cache folder
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After downloading hit 'install later' then copy ota to pc.
HEy all..
there are tons of leaks out there, but not one single ROM. have asked many people but no one seems interested. Anyways, There are OTAs and there are fastboot files everywhere..but not one single stock ROM that I can flash through CMW of the asia or EU build?
Fastboot files ARE stock ROMs.
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Fastboot files ARE stock ROMs.
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Can I flash them through SD Card? NO.
Then how can u say they ARE ROMs?
circleofomega said:
Can I flash them through SD Card? NO.
Then how can u say they ARE ROMs?
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Just use RSD LITE to flash them.
There's no roms because you haven't written them yet. Get to work!
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joshw0000 said:
There's no roms because you haven't written them yet. Get to work!
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LOL!! Ok...
circleofomega said:
HEy all..
there are tons of leaks out there, but not one single ROM. have asked many people but no one seems interested. Anyways, There are OTAs and there are fastboot files everywhere..but not one single stock ROM that I can flash through CMW of the asia or EU build?
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What is the point of making a flashable stock rom?
But you might dont search, because there is 2 or 3 stock rom deodexed flashable through CWM by matt or frasertag, and i'm working on flashable asia.
Anyway, we don't have lot of rom because lockedbootloader make dev flee away.
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Can I flash them through SD Card? NO.
Then how can u say they ARE ROMs?
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How on earth does the ability to flash from the SD dictate what is and isn't a ROM? You couldn't flash Samsung stock builds from SD until Chainfire built Mobile Odin, does that mean those weren't ROMs before the app was released?
You can update a fastboot-flashed stock build using an OTA zip from the SD card if you really want to. Most Android device manufacturers do things differently, this just happens to be Moto's way.
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Locked bootloader....
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eyriiii said:
Locked bootloader....
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2 words said it all..
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vash_h said:
2 words said it all..
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Still a decent phone thou but it could have been better...lets see how long moto will hold back with the unlock tool until google comes in and rape them
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How on earth does the ability to flash from the SD dictate what is and isn't a ROM? You couldn't flash Samsung stock builds from SD until Chainfire built Mobile Odin, does that mean those weren't ROMs before the app was released?
You can update a fastboot-flashed stock build using an OTA zip from the SD card if you really want to. Most Android device manufacturers do things differently, this just happens to be Moto's way.
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This is the answer to the OP
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Locked bootloader....
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Well, I haven't had any experience with unlockable device before this, so I haven't seen any advantage being so... (except maybe ability to go back to GB)
But look at BootMenu... and MIUI...
Both gave me -almost- completely different experience with my razr.
I'm eager to see what unlocked BL or -so called- kexec would bring, yes, but I'm not missing them at all right now.
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This is the answer to the OP
Well, I haven't had any experience with unlockable device before this, so I haven't seen any advantage being so... (except maybe ability to go back to GB)
But look at BootMenu... and MIUI...
Both gave me -almost- completely different experience with my razr.
I'm eager to see what unlocked BL or -so called- kexec would bring, yes, but I'm not missing them at all right now.
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unlocked bootloader=custom kernels=more development
eyriiii said:
unlocked bootloader=custom kernels=more development
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Such as?
farhanito said:
Such as?
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Custom kernels really are the heart of development, unfortunately - different modules for new features, different CPU governors for better battery life & performance, optimisations and more. It's one of those things that needs to be experienced to appreciate.
Was key to my initial experiences with Android as I came to it from the HD2, which was by nature a custom job. Experimented with Motorola devices for six months, back with Samsung now - although I miss the build materials, the development is a breath of fresh air.
Hope Moto make a Nexus device, it's their only shot at regaining the attention of the development community that they lost when they locked down everything after the original Droid.
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onslaught86 said:
Custom kernels really are the heart of development, unfortunately - different modules for new features, different CPU governors for better battery life & performance, optimisations and more. It's one of those things that needs to be experienced to appreciate.
Was key to my initial experiences with Android as I came to it from the HD2, which was by nature a custom job. Experimented with Motorola devices for six months, back with Samsung now - although I miss the build materials, the development is a breath of fresh air.
Hope Moto make a Nexus device, it's their only shot at regaining the attention of the development community that they lost when they locked down everything after the original Droid.
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Not locked completely. Xoom and I believe the Atrix are unlocked. But I agree, unlocked bootloaders on current devices would be great.
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farhanito said:
This is the answer to the OP
Well, I haven't had any experience with unlockable device before this, so I haven't seen any advantage being so... (except maybe ability to go back to GB)
But look at BootMenu... and MIUI...
Both gave me -almost- completely different experience with my razr.
I'm eager to see what unlocked BL or -so called- kexec would bring, yes, but I'm not missing them at all right now.
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Changin a kernel could improve the phone experience drastically. A better kernel coul improve the battery life AND the performance, The first time i changed the kernel on my nexus one i was astonished, it was overclocked and it halved my consumption (i took the half of the usual % during the same usage) and the phone was smoother too.
You can't know the difference until you feel them ^^
I know nothing about programming, cooking roms etc. for sure with unlocked bootloader things would have been easier, but take a look at moto defy dev section. Froyo kernel and quarx and epsylon ported months ago cm9 and now with hwa with no official libs and drivers. And the first jb cm10 is already out from quarx. And all that with locked bootloader. The razr cdma roms as i read are very nice. So the problem is with our gms razr. Its all about devs.
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joshw0000 said:
Not locked completely. Xoom and I believe the Atrix are unlocked. But I agree, unlocked bootloaders on current devices would be great.
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Xoom is pure google device and Moto cannot lock it, I own one and its one of the best tablets out there but regarding the Atrix someone release "sbf" with unlocked bootloader by mistake (I think from Motorola) and now they have unlocked BL.
There is slightly hope for us to get the BL unlocked if Google starts to change things around in Motorola...and imo they need to do it fast.
Sp_Ark said:
I know nothing about programming, cooking roms etc. for sure with unlocked bootloader things would have been easier, but take a look at moto defy dev section. Froyo kernel and quarx and epsylon ported months ago cm9 and now with hwa with no official libs and drivers. And the first jb cm10 is already out from quarx. And all that with locked bootloader. The razr cdma roms as i read are very nice. So the problem is with our gms razr. Its all about devs.
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This.
We already got modules... and governors.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1754888
And our CDMA friends have CM9/AOKP ports... (which were patchable in GB era).
But, yeah.. Me too know nothing about bootloader, kernel, etc.