HEy all..
there are tons of leaks out there, but not one single ROM. have asked many people but no one seems interested. Anyways, There are OTAs and there are fastboot files everywhere..but not one single stock ROM that I can flash through CMW of the asia or EU build?
Fastboot files ARE stock ROMs.
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onslaught86 said:
Fastboot files ARE stock ROMs.
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Can I flash them through SD Card? NO.
Then how can u say they ARE ROMs?
circleofomega said:
Can I flash them through SD Card? NO.
Then how can u say they ARE ROMs?
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Just use RSD LITE to flash them.
There's no roms because you haven't written them yet. Get to work!
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joshw0000 said:
There's no roms because you haven't written them yet. Get to work!
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LOL!! Ok...
circleofomega said:
HEy all..
there are tons of leaks out there, but not one single ROM. have asked many people but no one seems interested. Anyways, There are OTAs and there are fastboot files everywhere..but not one single stock ROM that I can flash through CMW of the asia or EU build?
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What is the point of making a flashable stock rom?
But you might dont search, because there is 2 or 3 stock rom deodexed flashable through CWM by matt or frasertag, and i'm working on flashable asia.
Anyway, we don't have lot of rom because lockedbootloader make dev flee away.
circleofomega said:
Can I flash them through SD Card? NO.
Then how can u say they ARE ROMs?
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How on earth does the ability to flash from the SD dictate what is and isn't a ROM? You couldn't flash Samsung stock builds from SD until Chainfire built Mobile Odin, does that mean those weren't ROMs before the app was released?
You can update a fastboot-flashed stock build using an OTA zip from the SD card if you really want to. Most Android device manufacturers do things differently, this just happens to be Moto's way.
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Locked bootloader....
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eyriiii said:
Locked bootloader....
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2 words said it all..
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vash_h said:
2 words said it all..
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Still a decent phone thou but it could have been better...lets see how long moto will hold back with the unlock tool until google comes in and rape them
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How on earth does the ability to flash from the SD dictate what is and isn't a ROM? You couldn't flash Samsung stock builds from SD until Chainfire built Mobile Odin, does that mean those weren't ROMs before the app was released?
You can update a fastboot-flashed stock build using an OTA zip from the SD card if you really want to. Most Android device manufacturers do things differently, this just happens to be Moto's way.
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This is the answer to the OP
eyriiii said:
Locked bootloader....
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Well, I haven't had any experience with unlockable device before this, so I haven't seen any advantage being so... (except maybe ability to go back to GB)
But look at BootMenu... and MIUI...
Both gave me -almost- completely different experience with my razr.
I'm eager to see what unlocked BL or -so called- kexec would bring, yes, but I'm not missing them at all right now.
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This is the answer to the OP
Well, I haven't had any experience with unlockable device before this, so I haven't seen any advantage being so... (except maybe ability to go back to GB)
But look at BootMenu... and MIUI...
Both gave me -almost- completely different experience with my razr.
I'm eager to see what unlocked BL or -so called- kexec would bring, yes, but I'm not missing them at all right now.
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unlocked bootloader=custom kernels=more development
eyriiii said:
unlocked bootloader=custom kernels=more development
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Such as?
farhanito said:
Such as?
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Custom kernels really are the heart of development, unfortunately - different modules for new features, different CPU governors for better battery life & performance, optimisations and more. It's one of those things that needs to be experienced to appreciate.
Was key to my initial experiences with Android as I came to it from the HD2, which was by nature a custom job. Experimented with Motorola devices for six months, back with Samsung now - although I miss the build materials, the development is a breath of fresh air.
Hope Moto make a Nexus device, it's their only shot at regaining the attention of the development community that they lost when they locked down everything after the original Droid.
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Custom kernels really are the heart of development, unfortunately - different modules for new features, different CPU governors for better battery life & performance, optimisations and more. It's one of those things that needs to be experienced to appreciate.
Was key to my initial experiences with Android as I came to it from the HD2, which was by nature a custom job. Experimented with Motorola devices for six months, back with Samsung now - although I miss the build materials, the development is a breath of fresh air.
Hope Moto make a Nexus device, it's their only shot at regaining the attention of the development community that they lost when they locked down everything after the original Droid.
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Not locked completely. Xoom and I believe the Atrix are unlocked. But I agree, unlocked bootloaders on current devices would be great.
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farhanito said:
This is the answer to the OP
Well, I haven't had any experience with unlockable device before this, so I haven't seen any advantage being so... (except maybe ability to go back to GB)
But look at BootMenu... and MIUI...
Both gave me -almost- completely different experience with my razr.
I'm eager to see what unlocked BL or -so called- kexec would bring, yes, but I'm not missing them at all right now.
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Changin a kernel could improve the phone experience drastically. A better kernel coul improve the battery life AND the performance, The first time i changed the kernel on my nexus one i was astonished, it was overclocked and it halved my consumption (i took the half of the usual % during the same usage) and the phone was smoother too.
You can't know the difference until you feel them ^^
I know nothing about programming, cooking roms etc. for sure with unlocked bootloader things would have been easier, but take a look at moto defy dev section. Froyo kernel and quarx and epsylon ported months ago cm9 and now with hwa with no official libs and drivers. And the first jb cm10 is already out from quarx. And all that with locked bootloader. The razr cdma roms as i read are very nice. So the problem is with our gms razr. Its all about devs.
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Not locked completely. Xoom and I believe the Atrix are unlocked. But I agree, unlocked bootloaders on current devices would be great.
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Xoom is pure google device and Moto cannot lock it, I own one and its one of the best tablets out there but regarding the Atrix someone release "sbf" with unlocked bootloader by mistake (I think from Motorola) and now they have unlocked BL.
There is slightly hope for us to get the BL unlocked if Google starts to change things around in Motorola...and imo they need to do it fast.
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I know nothing about programming, cooking roms etc. for sure with unlocked bootloader things would have been easier, but take a look at moto defy dev section. Froyo kernel and quarx and epsylon ported months ago cm9 and now with hwa with no official libs and drivers. And the first jb cm10 is already out from quarx. And all that with locked bootloader. The razr cdma roms as i read are very nice. So the problem is with our gms razr. Its all about devs.
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This.
We already got modules... and governors.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1754888
And our CDMA friends have CM9/AOKP ports... (which were patchable in GB era).
But, yeah.. Me too know nothing about bootloader, kernel, etc.
Related
sourceforge(dot)net/projects/droidrazr.motorola/
Can we have ROMs now :')
good stuff
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sourceforge(dot)net/projects/droidrazr.motorola/
Can we have ROMs now :')
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I have a Razr 'EN.eu'.... are these source files from UK phone ?
ROMS!! LOL I DOUBT IT!!
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So is this the first step in getting an sbf?
This isn't absolutely related to SBFs, FXZs and anything else.
Anyway, good find! I can start to work to EternityProject Kernel for Motorola RAZR now :°)
Pity is that it will be flashable only when ICS will be out!
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I have a Razr 'EN.eu'.... are these source files from UK phone ?
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No, this is the DROID RAZR's. Unless they're running the same thing (which...I guess could be possible, outside of the radio-related stuff), no.
kholk said:
This isn't absolutely related to SBFs, FXZs and anything else.
Anyway, good find! I can start to work to EternityProject Kernel for Motorola RAZR now :°)
Pity is that it will be flashable only when ICS will be out!
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Why is it a pity? Can we not flash with bootstrap?
The bootloader's gotta be unlocked in order for you to flash Kernels.
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The bootloader's gotta be unlocked in order for you to flash Kernels.
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Working on it...
Yay 4 Juggs said:
Working on it...
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Ooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
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No, this is the DROID RAZR's. Unless they're running the same thing (which...I guess could be possible, outside of the radio-related stuff), no.
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board-mapphone.c:char *bp_model = "CDMA";
board-mapphone-spi.c: char *cpcap_bp_model = "CDMA"
Just a guess 'cause I didn't have time to check better:
cpcap_bp_model and bp_model should be changed to GSM or it shouldn't be changed at all. The userspace radio layer is in Android ROM and since our MDM6600 (same for DROID RAZR and RAZR) is able to work both in CDMA and GSM mode, the kernel code should be the same. CDMA as bp_model can be only for reference or for changing operational mode in the BP kernel driver.
The kernel should be exactly the same, the only unsure thing is the radio driver, anyway, in case GSM RAZR kernel will be released "too late" we can use this on the GSM RAZR relatively easily. We need in any case the unlocked bootloader for testing what I'm saying but I expect to have the RAZR (GSM) kernel prior that to happen.
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Working on it...
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May the force be with you.
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garywojdan81 said:
Ooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVKOnX3BfFM&feature=related
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The kernel should be exactly the same, the only unsure thing is the radio driver, anyway, in case GSM RAZR kernel will be released "too late" we can use this on the GSM RAZR relatively easily. We need in any case the unlocked bootloader for testing what I'm saying but I expect to have the RAZR (GSM) kernel prior that to happen.
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That's true, but wouldn't it be wasted work since ICS would entail a new kernel from Moto to start over on anyway?
You don't really expect to see official ICS on the Razr anytime soon, do you? And yes, I know what Motorola told. I also know what they used to tell in the past.
but will this at least allow customs roms like like liberty 3 or cm7??
BigBlue007 said:
You don't really expect to see official ICS on the Razr anytime soon, do you? And yes, I know what Motorola told. I also know what they used to tell in the past.
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Except now they're part of Google. Hopefully that'll help.
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not yet, they aren't!
are you aware that they also said that ICS was already ready when the source came out? all they have to do is finish testing it and push it out. early 2012 is very reasonable.
Hold your breath and we'll see how well you're feeling in a few months....
So, I've been running the ICS leak from April on my original RAZR since the day it came out and I absolutely love it. I have also been reading all of the speculative posts about the" official" release to be available soon. I have 2 questions/concerns that I would love to hear some opinions.
1. What will the official release give me that the leak doesn't?
2. How do I back up all of my apps and progress on my games if I do decide to update?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
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wollitaj said:
So, I've been running the ICS leak from April on my original RAZR since the day it came out and I absolutely love it. I have also been reading all of the speculative posts about the" official" release to be available soon. I have 2 questions/concerns that I would love to hear some opinions.
1. What will the official release give me that the leak doesn't?
2. How do I back up all of my apps and progress on my games if I do decide to update?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
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To answer your question effectively, we will require more information. Which leak are you running and are you rooted?
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1. What will the official release give me that the leak doesn't?
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You'll get an improved system, bug free and possible new blur and features.
2. How do I back up all of my apps and progress on my games if I do decide to update?
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You can use either Titanium backup or mybackup pro to save your data 'n apps.
Cheers
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pedrotorresfilho said:
You'll get an improved system, bug free and possible new blur and features.
You can use either Titanium backup or mybackup pro to save your data 'n apps.
Cheers
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LMAO....We can only wish the official release will be "bug free"...We all know that won't be the case. It never is. They fix one thing, and break another.
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You'll get an improved system, bug free
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loooool!
I think they are working hard for this major update, new build every 10 days should prove Moto won't fail...
(Should)
V1TRU said:
I think they are working hard for this major update, new build every 10 days should prove Moto won't fail...
(Should)
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Yeah they "should" but it won't be like this. But i think that the ICS update will be mostly bug free.
And if they don't open up the bootloader they will partially fail by losing some customers..
kostastoupas said:
Yeah they "should" but it won't be like this. But i think that the ICS update will be mostly bug free.
And if they don't open up the bootloader they will partially fail by losing some customers..
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Right on! Unlockable bootloader would be HUGE! I hope ICS for the RAZR is better than that of the Nexus....Nexus 4.0.2 is very buggy!
DrSadistic said:
To answer your question effectively, we will require more information. Which leak are you running and are you rooted?
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My version is 6.14.75 running 4.0.3 and I am not currently rooted but I assume I can with RAZR utility.
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Lol 84 is extremely nice. Better than 75 . Moto is really working on a full nice release. I can only guess 204 is better. The ota will have less bugs than 8r does and I haven't encountered any issues in 2 weeks of use. Ota will be very nice without a doubt
It will be bug free, or close. Leaked betas point this way. It may have bugs but will be really impressive SO. Probably much better andstable than actual gb.
Btw. I think you guys are too smart to believe in a 100% bug free system. Think you got it
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Hello all xda dev,
i would buy an atrix (version 1) with tegra2 chipset. It's the european model , my question is
- does the atrix european version is the same as atrix 4g ?
- Can i use the ICSROM 1.4 on the atrix european version ?
thanks
Hi!
1. yes
2. yes, but you have to flash ramfix
buy Samsung
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why samsung ticiano_arraes ???
i'm a linux user but not android
attrixnor said:
why samsung ticiano_arraes ???
i'm a linux user but not android
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Because Motorola killed the phone. You will be stuck with stock Gingerbread roms or unoficial custom roms without hardware acceleration.
The phone has nice specs, it's a damn shame tho.
the atrix actual price is 220 euros and a new cm10 roms seems to have HW accel too with JB
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1934662&page=94
They still have a lot of bugs and it's uncertain if devs can fix it.
Don't get me wrong, I love my phone, but I wouldn't recomend it, at least not till the devs make a 100% stable rom with decent battery life and HWA working. This would never happen with Samsung.
^^^^^^
Not correct. This would happen with any manufacturer, eve Samsung, all except Nexus devices. Do yourself a favour and buy a Nexus, that way you will have an updated software always.
attrixnor said:
Hello all xda dev,
i would buy an atrix (version 1) with tegra2 chipset. It's the european model , my question is
- does the atrix european version is the same as atrix 4g ?
- Can i use the ICSROM 1.4 on the atrix european version ?
thanks
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There is ONLY ONE version of Atrix in existance. It might be called different in different regions, but it is still the same device.
Yes, you can install that ROM on an euro-Atrix, just like on any other Atrix.
otsnd said:
They still have a lot of bugs and it's uncertain if devs can fix it.
Don't get me wrong, I love my phone, but I wouldn't recomend it, at least not till the devs make a 100% stable rom with decent battery life and HWA working. This would never happen with Samsung.
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ditto
ravilov said:
There is ONLY ONE version of Atrix in existance. It might be called different in different regions, but it is still the same device.
Yes, you can install that ROM on an euro-Atrix, just like on any other Atrix.
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unless you get the updated version of the atrix (like me). then you wont be able to install any custom rom because you can not unlock the bootloader.
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HeroUser96 said:
unless you get the updated version of the atrix (like me). then you wont be able to install any custom rom because you can not unlock the bootloader.
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Well yeah, I meant there are no hardware limitations based on a specific geographic region. Locked BL is a software limitation, and also has nothing to do with the device being american or european or whatever.
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Well yeah, I meant there are no hardware limitations based on a specific geographic region. Locked BL is a software limitation, and also has nothing to do with the device being american or european or whatever.
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thats true, but if he is going to buy a new phone he will most likely get one with a locked bootloader.
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Thread closed. Went way off topic after the questions were already answered.
-Danik- achieved to unlock bootloader on Mototorola MS2, will this be applicable to the RAZR?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40135678&postcount=443
Looks like a revelation!
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Is that a OMAP device? if yes then it looks promising might want to notify hash about it :good:
edit: yes omap 3630
According to -Danik-
"Once the RAMDL was hacked , I was able to flash my own loader which is a turning point in Milestone 2 at is , and on any OMAP at all."
I'm no expert on these matters, but Google says it's OMAP too
wo0drow said:
According to -Danik-
"Once the RAMDL was hacked , I was able to flash my own loader which is a turning point in Milestone 2 at is , and on any OMAP at all."
I'm no expert on these matters, but Google says it's OMAP too
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I have tweeted hashcode, thanks for taking notice on this huge achievement
Well so far nothing has been post in the RAZR section of the forum, but we have kexec anyways, which is a bootloader bypass. It would be nice, but it's not exactly needed, plus we weren't initially included so I don't know what that means
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SyrStorm said:
Well so far nothing has been post in the RAZR section of the forum, but we have kexec anyways, which is a bootloader bypass. It would be nice, but it's not exactly needed, plus we weren't initially included so I don't know what that means
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Well for anybody who got stuck with unrooted JB, this might be the ticket
hansip87 said:
Well for anybody who got stuck with unrooted JB, this might be the ticket
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So root JB. There is a root exploit for JB
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blackops11252 said:
So root JB. There is a root exploit for JB
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Tell that to anybody who's running DROIDless-RAZR that just got the OTA, pal..
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Tell that to anybody who's running DROIDless-RAZR that just got the OTA, pal..
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Sounds like a personal problem. Pal..
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jb for droid razr xt912 can be rooted.
jb for razr xt910 cannot for now. this is what he was talking about.
Sisqo said:
jb for droid razr xt912 can be rooted.
jb for razr xt910 cannot for now. this is what he was talking about.
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OK, thanks for kind reply
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Is this true or fake ? I think it is fake but we will see.
If this is a fact that a omap device got unlocked bootloader, then this can get big. This is awesome news to me. Thread is subscribed.
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Any news on this?
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no news so far...
Enviado desde mi XT912
SyrStorm said:
Well so far nothing has been post in the RAZR section of the forum, but we have kexec anyways, which is a bootloader bypass. It would be nice, but it's not exactly needed, plus we weren't initially included so I don't know what that means
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Using KEXEC-C10.1-20130312. Like it! Took me forever to find developer options. Wondering if and when I should enable USB DEbug. Your thoughts? I run it via Safestrap. You? I am new to this, and need to ask what may be a real NOOB Question, re INTL travel. Also, can I insert purchased Euro Sim for use in Europe? Just foggy on how boot would react? Any help is appreciated.
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Helron said:
Using KEXEC-C10.1-20130312. Like it! Took me forever to find developer options. Wondering if and when I should enable USB DEbug. Your thoughts? I run it via Safestrap. You? I am new to this, and need to ask what may be a real NOOB Question, re INTL travel. Also, can I insert purchased Euro Sim for use in Europe? Just foggy on how boot would react? Any help is appreciated.
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You can travel abroad with your RAZR no problem; but, know that if you are running CM10.1 you must patch it before it will work on Intl GSM, if you search the CM10.1 thread toy will find a link to the patch. I would link it now but I'm on my phone. If you have any other CM10.1 questions please post them on the CM10.1 thread, way more people read that thread and the support over there is great.
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jessel0001 said:
You can travel abroad with your RAZR no problem; but, know that if you are running CM10.1 you must patch it before it will work on Intl GSM, if you search the CM10.1 thread toy will find a link to the patch. I would link it now but I'm on my phone. If you have any other CM10.1 questions please post them on the CM10.1 thread, way more people read that thread and the support over there is great.
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Jessee1001
Thanks for your reply! I will recheck for the PATCH on CM10 forum, and yes, I agree, support there is great. But, you're great, too! U provided me with an answer and a place to obtain additional help. Thanks worth a million too me!
Helron said:
Jessee1001
Thanks for your reply! I will recheck for the PATCH on CM10 forum, and yes, I agree, support there is great. But, you're great, too! U provided me with an answer and a place to obtain additional help. Thanks worth a million too me!
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Not a problem just glad I could help.
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I was doing some reading and came across this interesting article. I hope our devs can UN dm-verify our stock kernel.
It may make rooting future devices much more difficult. I wonder what bug crawled up Google's butt.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/google-taking-aim-at-device-modders-in-android-4-4-kitkat/
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There always seems to be work around on every new version but this looks like bad news. Read the whole thing. Scary stuff for locked bootloaders.
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So do we get the pitchforks out and commence advance on LGs social media, etc? To get them to churn out an official build, of course.
It's a great phone and I bought it knowing they might not be quick on the draw. Didn't consider that 4.4 might make all these ROMs all for naught. Still, I needed a faster phone and this certainly fits the bill!
At same time I did know that short of a GSM Nexus that I couldn't have guarantee of latest Android.
I'm stuck on Verizon until March 2013. I can then slap a GSM Sim in, hopefully. But I paid retail so it's not like I want to buy a new phone anytime soon.
Well. I have myself to blame. Again. But I am off contract in March and this will never happen to me again!
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I am hopeful that when 4.4 comes out our devs will be able find a way for us to upgrade from 4.2 to a custom rooted 4.4 with out any issues. I do think that even stock unrooted this phone is fantastic it is carrier iq that is killing me. I'm sure att will put it in 4.4 also. Even though it was the carriers idea LG allows it to happen so I blame them also.
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Are all G2s bootloader locked? Including the international D802? Or only the carrier branded ones?
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sacredsoul said:
Are all G2s bootloader locked? Including the international D802? Or only the carrier branded ones?
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LG to my knowledge locks the bootloader on all its devices regardless of carrier.
This is troubling. The reason I chose the G2 was because it was the closest thing to the Nexus 5 on Verizon and had good developer support. Hopefully our fantastic developers will figure out a solution.
From what I understand, unless we upgrade to the official 4.4 LG ROM, there is no chance of this happening. Is that correct ?
I guess I'm selling the g2 for the nexus 5
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This is rubbish man..
sidthegreatest said:
From what I understand, unless we upgrade to the official 4.4 LG ROM, there is no chance of this happening. Is that correct ?
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That's my take on it. It is built into the 4.4 kernel. I wonder if this had anything to do with Google buying Motorola in August. Lock the phones way down for the carriers.
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If there will not be a 4.4 rom within 3 months guess it is a dirty shot for those who bought it and want to buy it like me
Looks like I'll be rolling with Nexus devices from now on. I guess it was bound to happen though, I'm sure OEM's wanted another security layer because of bootloader work a rounds. On the upside though, there will be less threads on device release days asking for root and ROM ETA's!
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the funny thing even though android are opensource, the phones and hardware are not. Thats where improvement is. If you create an abstraction layer, where due to propriatary stuff its closed and updateable by vendor. Another layer, the OS can go on top, thusly eliminating hardware dependancy as well as increasing updatability. OS and security issues can then more easily be adressed, without the now unduable vendor involvement needed in integrating the new OS with all the hardware specifics. Given the entropy rate of new phones coming out, its undoable. This last, as wel as commercial reasons is why updates and fixes for security holes dont come fast. As of yet.
Right now we see the true devs juggling various devices as the rate of entropy in new devices is higher then more true devs coming in. Devices not even picket up by community cause there are no devs for it. The breaking point has come.
A new design must be made for this momentum, a new standard
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The bootloader may be locked, but since custom recovery is available our kernel can be modified...so we should be okay...right?
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hhhmmmm not enjoying reading this thread
brucipher said:
The bootloader may be locked, but since custom recovery is available our kernel can be modified...so we should be okay...right?
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right. as long as you can flash custom kernels all this stuff should not be a problem.
it's about time to build some kitkat
KitKat has been out for like 5 days. Let's give the developers some time before everyone starts freaking out for no reason. They always find a way.
brucipher said:
The bootloader may be locked, but since custom recovery is available our kernel can be modified...so we should be okay...right?
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I think people who are already rooted will be ok , they will just need to avoid the official 4.4 until a custom rom is built. The bigger problem will be for new unrooted owners. I would imagine it being tricky to flash a custom kernel without the ability to root. I also agree in time the devs will figure something out.
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KitKat has been out for like 5 days. Let's give the developers some time before everyone starts freaking out for no reason. They always find a way.
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Intub8 said:
I think people who are already rooted will be ok , they will just need to avoid the official 4.4 until a custom rom is built. The bigger problem will be for new unrooted owners. I would imagine it being tricky to flash a custom kernel without the ability to root. I also agree in time the devs will figure something out.
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I just uninstalled recovery and was about to unroot and return to store, you guys gave me the slap in face I needed. Going to keep my badass phone now, thanks, drinks on me.