Hello all xda dev,
i would buy an atrix (version 1) with tegra2 chipset. It's the european model , my question is
- does the atrix european version is the same as atrix 4g ?
- Can i use the ICSROM 1.4 on the atrix european version ?
thanks
Hi!
1. yes
2. yes, but you have to flash ramfix
buy Samsung
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why samsung ticiano_arraes ???
i'm a linux user but not android
attrixnor said:
why samsung ticiano_arraes ???
i'm a linux user but not android
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Because Motorola killed the phone. You will be stuck with stock Gingerbread roms or unoficial custom roms without hardware acceleration.
The phone has nice specs, it's a damn shame tho.
the atrix actual price is 220 euros and a new cm10 roms seems to have HW accel too with JB
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1934662&page=94
They still have a lot of bugs and it's uncertain if devs can fix it.
Don't get me wrong, I love my phone, but I wouldn't recomend it, at least not till the devs make a 100% stable rom with decent battery life and HWA working. This would never happen with Samsung.
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Not correct. This would happen with any manufacturer, eve Samsung, all except Nexus devices. Do yourself a favour and buy a Nexus, that way you will have an updated software always.
attrixnor said:
Hello all xda dev,
i would buy an atrix (version 1) with tegra2 chipset. It's the european model , my question is
- does the atrix european version is the same as atrix 4g ?
- Can i use the ICSROM 1.4 on the atrix european version ?
thanks
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There is ONLY ONE version of Atrix in existance. It might be called different in different regions, but it is still the same device.
Yes, you can install that ROM on an euro-Atrix, just like on any other Atrix.
otsnd said:
They still have a lot of bugs and it's uncertain if devs can fix it.
Don't get me wrong, I love my phone, but I wouldn't recomend it, at least not till the devs make a 100% stable rom with decent battery life and HWA working. This would never happen with Samsung.
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ditto
ravilov said:
There is ONLY ONE version of Atrix in existance. It might be called different in different regions, but it is still the same device.
Yes, you can install that ROM on an euro-Atrix, just like on any other Atrix.
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unless you get the updated version of the atrix (like me). then you wont be able to install any custom rom because you can not unlock the bootloader.
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HeroUser96 said:
unless you get the updated version of the atrix (like me). then you wont be able to install any custom rom because you can not unlock the bootloader.
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Well yeah, I meant there are no hardware limitations based on a specific geographic region. Locked BL is a software limitation, and also has nothing to do with the device being american or european or whatever.
ravilov said:
Well yeah, I meant there are no hardware limitations based on a specific geographic region. Locked BL is a software limitation, and also has nothing to do with the device being american or european or whatever.
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thats true, but if he is going to buy a new phone he will most likely get one with a locked bootloader.
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Thread closed. Went way off topic after the questions were already answered.
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We saw many releases of firmwares for SGS2, but in every firmware is something crappy or missing (video in gtalk etc..).
Does anybody have some info when new firmware will be released with all goods included but with all things working smoothly?
Me: still on KF3, all other newest FW was dissapointment...
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Samsung release date for perfect firmware Twelfth of Never .
jje
Not even custom built roms from ground up remotely come close to perfection, so dont expect too much from samsung, you may need to mix and match some roms/modems/kernels/apks to get the best possible result.
Hmm, I don't think my glass ball still works.
Us Galaxy S users with Captivates and Fascinates hadn't even got Gingerbread and it took forever to get Froyo. >=[
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redzion said:
We saw many releases of firmwares for SGS2, but in every firmware in something crappy or missing (video in gtalk etc..).
Does anybody some info when new firmware will be released with all goods included but with all things working smoothly?
Me: still on KF3, all other newest FW was dissapointment...
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What was the reply when you asked Samsung this question?
never asked... it's should be normal to provide stable with all avaible futures ROM withouth asking them, or I am in wrong?
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redzion said:
never asked... it's should be normal to provide stable with all avaible futures ROM withouth asking them, or I am in wrong?
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Name 1 piece of software ever made with 0 errors and I'll agree.
OP said
Me: still on KF3, all other newest FW was dissapointment...
Thats subjective not objective a lot of users say KG 1234567 are better .
jje
I get the feeling we will be waiting a long time for this firmware lol..
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Name 1 piece of software ever made with 0 errors and I'll agree.
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qmail is pretty close though.
GagesiPad said:
Us Galaxy S users with Captivates and Fascinates hadn't even got Gingerbread and it took forever to get Froyo. >=[
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To be fair to Samsung it seems the issue lies with your carriers over there in North America.
Here you go guys north amaerica generic 2.3.4 ready to download everything works as it should I flashed it myself before uploading. Enjoy New link since megaupload is no more!
http://www.mediafire.com/?as5pa6ayo4gamw4
Will this work on r800x Verizon play?
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I doubt it this is for gsm phones
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Any noticeable difference between this and the uk generic 2.3.4?
Thanks man!
garner said:
Any noticeable difference between this and the uk generic 2.3.4?
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apart from extra bloatware ,and a potential '0% battery' problem , i dont think there should be any differences. (if ur phone is natively R8OOi )
Lol
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Whoops, looks like I missed this topic and replied to another one instead. I'll repost here because it's more appropriate to this thread.
This release is the second release of the 2.3.4 firmware, right? I ask because I installed the Generic UK 2.3.3 firmware to my Google I/O R800a months ago and received the second 2.3.3 OTA update bringing it up to 4.0.A.2.368 about a month before the version for the North American R800a dropped. By all indications at the time, the UK firmware was getting updates out way faster.
But now this has been released and I still haven't seen anything come up for OTA or through PC Companion or SEUS. It makes me wonder if I should just flash back to the Generic North American R800a ROM with this.
Any suggestions/recommendations? Thanks!
Weird. When I plug my phone into my computer PC Companion tells me there is an update for my phone (the version that this thread is about). If I search for software update in the phone it says I am up to date. I'm on 2.3.4 now (4.0.1.A.0.283) which I believe is the UK generic version.
The .283 is the Nordic 2.3.4
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hey guys is this for r800a? can i flash on r800i?
Sir OP... you are my hero.
razor813 said:
hey guys is this for r800a? can i flash on r800i?
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Yea man this is for r800a
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what i means is that what is the different with r800i, can i flash this a fw on my r800i? thanks
razor813 said:
what i means is that what is the different with r800i, can i flash this a fw on my r800i? thanks
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There are no real differences except some different bloat apps and it will just say r800a in your about phone settings
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So I've been loving this FW to death... except for one aspect.
BLOATWARE IS OFF THE ****ING CHARTS!
As if all the other expected stuff wasn't enough, now they're forcing Google Books, Video Unlimited, like 3 different "Get Games" things, LiveWare, a bunch of Facebook integrated stuff, OfficeSuite and PlayNow... and versions of Flash/Facebook/Youtube that can't be removed or moved to SD... holy ****.
Madden, Star Batallion, FIFA and Bruce Lee are also being forced... but I don't mind that much. I like all those games (still wouldn't mind having the option to move that stuff to SD).
The most annoying part is that if I uncheck Automatic Updates, it'll just re-check themselves and slam all those updates on my phone storage when I'm sleeping or something. That's pretty high up there on the "**** move"-o-meter.
Even still though... this ROM has been amazing... like 250MB free natively... 720p recording, xLoud... screen caps... but if someone could modify this ROM and kill off all that crap, I'd be in heaven.
you can , with root ^
Cat_On_Droid said:
you can , with root ^
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lol I found out about the zergRush method roughly two minutes after I posted that bloatware rant.
Happily rooted, and about to tweak some things to perfection. I don't necessarily want to kill off all the bloatware... I just want it off my goddamn phone storage
IIRC, I can just go straight into the system/app folder and every apk I delete from there uninstalls the app, right? I've been on stock 2.3.3 so long I've forgotten.
Do you need an unlocked bootloader for this, or can you use it if the bootloader is still locked?
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Do you need an unlocked bootloader for this, or can you use it if the bootloader is still locked?
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I'd like to know that as well. Trying to learn what I can/can't do with this phone compared to the other android phones I've had. Gotta figure out how to use built in tether without a tethering plan next.
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I was just wondering if I will still be able to use some of these roms, I will be running at&t in USA.
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I was just wondering if I will still be able to use some of these roms, I will be running at&t in USA.
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What are you asking? You want to use these ROMS on a different phone? I don't think that would be practical due to hardware specifics.
Mike
You can use all of the devices roms. It is indifferent if you have an a-modell or a i-version
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HEy all..
there are tons of leaks out there, but not one single ROM. have asked many people but no one seems interested. Anyways, There are OTAs and there are fastboot files everywhere..but not one single stock ROM that I can flash through CMW of the asia or EU build?
Fastboot files ARE stock ROMs.
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Fastboot files ARE stock ROMs.
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Can I flash them through SD Card? NO.
Then how can u say they ARE ROMs?
circleofomega said:
Can I flash them through SD Card? NO.
Then how can u say they ARE ROMs?
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Just use RSD LITE to flash them.
There's no roms because you haven't written them yet. Get to work!
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joshw0000 said:
There's no roms because you haven't written them yet. Get to work!
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LOL!! Ok...
circleofomega said:
HEy all..
there are tons of leaks out there, but not one single ROM. have asked many people but no one seems interested. Anyways, There are OTAs and there are fastboot files everywhere..but not one single stock ROM that I can flash through CMW of the asia or EU build?
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What is the point of making a flashable stock rom?
But you might dont search, because there is 2 or 3 stock rom deodexed flashable through CWM by matt or frasertag, and i'm working on flashable asia.
Anyway, we don't have lot of rom because lockedbootloader make dev flee away.
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Can I flash them through SD Card? NO.
Then how can u say they ARE ROMs?
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How on earth does the ability to flash from the SD dictate what is and isn't a ROM? You couldn't flash Samsung stock builds from SD until Chainfire built Mobile Odin, does that mean those weren't ROMs before the app was released?
You can update a fastboot-flashed stock build using an OTA zip from the SD card if you really want to. Most Android device manufacturers do things differently, this just happens to be Moto's way.
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Locked bootloader....
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eyriiii said:
Locked bootloader....
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2 words said it all..
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vash_h said:
2 words said it all..
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Still a decent phone thou but it could have been better...lets see how long moto will hold back with the unlock tool until google comes in and rape them
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How on earth does the ability to flash from the SD dictate what is and isn't a ROM? You couldn't flash Samsung stock builds from SD until Chainfire built Mobile Odin, does that mean those weren't ROMs before the app was released?
You can update a fastboot-flashed stock build using an OTA zip from the SD card if you really want to. Most Android device manufacturers do things differently, this just happens to be Moto's way.
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This is the answer to the OP
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Locked bootloader....
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Well, I haven't had any experience with unlockable device before this, so I haven't seen any advantage being so... (except maybe ability to go back to GB)
But look at BootMenu... and MIUI...
Both gave me -almost- completely different experience with my razr.
I'm eager to see what unlocked BL or -so called- kexec would bring, yes, but I'm not missing them at all right now.
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This is the answer to the OP
Well, I haven't had any experience with unlockable device before this, so I haven't seen any advantage being so... (except maybe ability to go back to GB)
But look at BootMenu... and MIUI...
Both gave me -almost- completely different experience with my razr.
I'm eager to see what unlocked BL or -so called- kexec would bring, yes, but I'm not missing them at all right now.
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unlocked bootloader=custom kernels=more development
eyriiii said:
unlocked bootloader=custom kernels=more development
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Such as?
farhanito said:
Such as?
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Custom kernels really are the heart of development, unfortunately - different modules for new features, different CPU governors for better battery life & performance, optimisations and more. It's one of those things that needs to be experienced to appreciate.
Was key to my initial experiences with Android as I came to it from the HD2, which was by nature a custom job. Experimented with Motorola devices for six months, back with Samsung now - although I miss the build materials, the development is a breath of fresh air.
Hope Moto make a Nexus device, it's their only shot at regaining the attention of the development community that they lost when they locked down everything after the original Droid.
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Custom kernels really are the heart of development, unfortunately - different modules for new features, different CPU governors for better battery life & performance, optimisations and more. It's one of those things that needs to be experienced to appreciate.
Was key to my initial experiences with Android as I came to it from the HD2, which was by nature a custom job. Experimented with Motorola devices for six months, back with Samsung now - although I miss the build materials, the development is a breath of fresh air.
Hope Moto make a Nexus device, it's their only shot at regaining the attention of the development community that they lost when they locked down everything after the original Droid.
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Not locked completely. Xoom and I believe the Atrix are unlocked. But I agree, unlocked bootloaders on current devices would be great.
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farhanito said:
This is the answer to the OP
Well, I haven't had any experience with unlockable device before this, so I haven't seen any advantage being so... (except maybe ability to go back to GB)
But look at BootMenu... and MIUI...
Both gave me -almost- completely different experience with my razr.
I'm eager to see what unlocked BL or -so called- kexec would bring, yes, but I'm not missing them at all right now.
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Changin a kernel could improve the phone experience drastically. A better kernel coul improve the battery life AND the performance, The first time i changed the kernel on my nexus one i was astonished, it was overclocked and it halved my consumption (i took the half of the usual % during the same usage) and the phone was smoother too.
You can't know the difference until you feel them ^^
I know nothing about programming, cooking roms etc. for sure with unlocked bootloader things would have been easier, but take a look at moto defy dev section. Froyo kernel and quarx and epsylon ported months ago cm9 and now with hwa with no official libs and drivers. And the first jb cm10 is already out from quarx. And all that with locked bootloader. The razr cdma roms as i read are very nice. So the problem is with our gms razr. Its all about devs.
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Not locked completely. Xoom and I believe the Atrix are unlocked. But I agree, unlocked bootloaders on current devices would be great.
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Xoom is pure google device and Moto cannot lock it, I own one and its one of the best tablets out there but regarding the Atrix someone release "sbf" with unlocked bootloader by mistake (I think from Motorola) and now they have unlocked BL.
There is slightly hope for us to get the BL unlocked if Google starts to change things around in Motorola...and imo they need to do it fast.
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I know nothing about programming, cooking roms etc. for sure with unlocked bootloader things would have been easier, but take a look at moto defy dev section. Froyo kernel and quarx and epsylon ported months ago cm9 and now with hwa with no official libs and drivers. And the first jb cm10 is already out from quarx. And all that with locked bootloader. The razr cdma roms as i read are very nice. So the problem is with our gms razr. Its all about devs.
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This.
We already got modules... and governors.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1754888
And our CDMA friends have CM9/AOKP ports... (which were patchable in GB era).
But, yeah.. Me too know nothing about bootloader, kernel, etc.
I was doing some reading and came across this interesting article. I hope our devs can UN dm-verify our stock kernel.
It may make rooting future devices much more difficult. I wonder what bug crawled up Google's butt.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/google-taking-aim-at-device-modders-in-android-4-4-kitkat/
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There always seems to be work around on every new version but this looks like bad news. Read the whole thing. Scary stuff for locked bootloaders.
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So do we get the pitchforks out and commence advance on LGs social media, etc? To get them to churn out an official build, of course.
It's a great phone and I bought it knowing they might not be quick on the draw. Didn't consider that 4.4 might make all these ROMs all for naught. Still, I needed a faster phone and this certainly fits the bill!
At same time I did know that short of a GSM Nexus that I couldn't have guarantee of latest Android.
I'm stuck on Verizon until March 2013. I can then slap a GSM Sim in, hopefully. But I paid retail so it's not like I want to buy a new phone anytime soon.
Well. I have myself to blame. Again. But I am off contract in March and this will never happen to me again!
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I am hopeful that when 4.4 comes out our devs will be able find a way for us to upgrade from 4.2 to a custom rooted 4.4 with out any issues. I do think that even stock unrooted this phone is fantastic it is carrier iq that is killing me. I'm sure att will put it in 4.4 also. Even though it was the carriers idea LG allows it to happen so I blame them also.
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Are all G2s bootloader locked? Including the international D802? Or only the carrier branded ones?
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sacredsoul said:
Are all G2s bootloader locked? Including the international D802? Or only the carrier branded ones?
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LG to my knowledge locks the bootloader on all its devices regardless of carrier.
This is troubling. The reason I chose the G2 was because it was the closest thing to the Nexus 5 on Verizon and had good developer support. Hopefully our fantastic developers will figure out a solution.
From what I understand, unless we upgrade to the official 4.4 LG ROM, there is no chance of this happening. Is that correct ?
I guess I'm selling the g2 for the nexus 5
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This is rubbish man..
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From what I understand, unless we upgrade to the official 4.4 LG ROM, there is no chance of this happening. Is that correct ?
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That's my take on it. It is built into the 4.4 kernel. I wonder if this had anything to do with Google buying Motorola in August. Lock the phones way down for the carriers.
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If there will not be a 4.4 rom within 3 months guess it is a dirty shot for those who bought it and want to buy it like me
Looks like I'll be rolling with Nexus devices from now on. I guess it was bound to happen though, I'm sure OEM's wanted another security layer because of bootloader work a rounds. On the upside though, there will be less threads on device release days asking for root and ROM ETA's!
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the funny thing even though android are opensource, the phones and hardware are not. Thats where improvement is. If you create an abstraction layer, where due to propriatary stuff its closed and updateable by vendor. Another layer, the OS can go on top, thusly eliminating hardware dependancy as well as increasing updatability. OS and security issues can then more easily be adressed, without the now unduable vendor involvement needed in integrating the new OS with all the hardware specifics. Given the entropy rate of new phones coming out, its undoable. This last, as wel as commercial reasons is why updates and fixes for security holes dont come fast. As of yet.
Right now we see the true devs juggling various devices as the rate of entropy in new devices is higher then more true devs coming in. Devices not even picket up by community cause there are no devs for it. The breaking point has come.
A new design must be made for this momentum, a new standard
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The bootloader may be locked, but since custom recovery is available our kernel can be modified...so we should be okay...right?
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hhhmmmm not enjoying reading this thread
brucipher said:
The bootloader may be locked, but since custom recovery is available our kernel can be modified...so we should be okay...right?
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right. as long as you can flash custom kernels all this stuff should not be a problem.
it's about time to build some kitkat
KitKat has been out for like 5 days. Let's give the developers some time before everyone starts freaking out for no reason. They always find a way.
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The bootloader may be locked, but since custom recovery is available our kernel can be modified...so we should be okay...right?
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I think people who are already rooted will be ok , they will just need to avoid the official 4.4 until a custom rom is built. The bigger problem will be for new unrooted owners. I would imagine it being tricky to flash a custom kernel without the ability to root. I also agree in time the devs will figure something out.
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KitKat has been out for like 5 days. Let's give the developers some time before everyone starts freaking out for no reason. They always find a way.
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Intub8 said:
I think people who are already rooted will be ok , they will just need to avoid the official 4.4 until a custom rom is built. The bigger problem will be for new unrooted owners. I would imagine it being tricky to flash a custom kernel without the ability to root. I also agree in time the devs will figure something out.
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I just uninstalled recovery and was about to unroot and return to store, you guys gave me the slap in face I needed. Going to keep my badass phone now, thanks, drinks on me.