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I have a one amp usb charger that cant seem to charge the Note while streaming audio over LTE, HSPA, or locally with beyond pod. With the screen off, i lose a percent every five to ten minutes while streaming audio through winamp, flash via the stocm browser, or beyondpod, and the note doesnt lose power while playing local media through beyondpod or winamp...but it doesnt charge either.
And when im charging via he wall adapter and im using the devjce it charges extremely slowly...this is a slow chargibg device, but really, cant i even charge it in the car while playing local audio? Can a usb device pull over a amp from a car charger? It was hard enough even finding a one amp adapter at brick and mortar stores. Are there more powerful adapters? Can the GNote pull more than an amp? Whats does the wall adapter pull?
What adapters are you guys using? Any reccomendations?
I have the same issues. I have a post already involving some possible work arounds. I'm trying a couple of other chargers as speak.
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Yup....same issue here. I've brought it up elsewhere but still no concrete answers on alternate usb chargers that solve the discharge/slow charge during use.
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I'm being told that a Motorola brand, mini USB car charger with the blue light that glows, has the pins on the contact that are shorted which makes it act like a home charger.
This supposedly works.
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Another post indicating improper charge using any cable but the OEM just showed up. Maybe that's why the dock works.... Going to try my 2.1A charger with the Samsung cable. Using a universal Belkin gave ne a %3 loss while charging using GPS and streaming music for 1 hour and 45 minutes.
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No go on the factory supplied cable with the 2.1A adapter. It actually lost more charge that way versus the Belkin cable and 2.1A adapter. Not sure what else to do other than buying a Motorola car charger locally to test it.
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I'm now getting feedback that indeed the Motorola charger will correct this issue and allow for charging to full while device is in use. ebay has them for $7.59 with free shipping. Or find one locally.
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Be careful using non OEM chargers/cables. I seem to recall a thread (from International GNote Forum) on the usb connector on the GNote being extremely sensitive. I would hate to see anyone messing up their USB connector for charging.
I found the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1470082
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i use a 11200mah usb powerbank it has a 1amp and 2 amp output i plug it in the 2amp when im im running alot of apps
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP6FuxdCNjA&feature=player_detailpage
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Stop pushing your products from Kevikev whatever.com It is so obvious you are affiliated with that site. You always link to a video which shows the website.
I am filing a complaint with this forum's moderators to get you banned like you were from Macrumors.
This thread might answer some (if not all) of the questions about why it doesn't charge well with some chargers.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1519084
+1 for the Motorola rapid charger from ebay or Amazon.
/problem solved
Can we get a model number on that?
paleh0rse said:
+1 for thwarting Motorola rapid charger from ebay or Amazon.
/problem solved
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Huh? Is he pushing warez too?
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Huh? Is he pushing warez too?
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LOL, no... My damn stock keyboard autocorrect keeps changing the word "the" to "thwarting."
I've switched to Swype for now...
Well I tried this adapter from Motorola and STILL discharges when used with GPS and streaming music.
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Nav, Pandora and a 5.3" HD screen running, probably just exceed the phone's recharge rate. I have found the very best recharging combo, while the phone is under load, to be the Moto charger and....wait for it....a cheap Hyperion 2600mah replacement battery on Amazon! I have no clue why.
The oem Samsung battery barely creeps upward while running nav and mp3's at the same time at about 5-10% an hour. Still beats my previous discharging.
But inadvertently, I found my backup Hyperion batt charges at a pretty quick pace with the exact same load. I haven't measured it yet, but it is at least twice as fast. Let the geniuses figure this one out, because it makes no sense to me.
My Samsung Galaxy Note™ is smarter than your Honor Student.
Using the moto charger, I started with a full battery, watched 70 minutes of streaming video in the Plex app this morning -- with a mix of 4G/LTE -- and unplugged with a full 100% charge at the end of that 70 minutes. Good stuff!
Just drove home today streaming Pandora in the car for thirty minutes with brightness on auto and Bluetooth audio to the car radio on my OEM Samsung genuine car dock. I was at 95% and when I got home I was 100.
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I just recieved this Car Charger 12V Cigarette Lighter to USB Adapter bought on ebay. it looks to be of decent quality and it's assembled with screws so it can be dissassembled and re-assembled. I plan on opening it up and shorting pins 2 & 3 to enable fast-charge. I'll report back after a road trip tomorrow
Well, I opened it up this morning, and it looks as though the data-pins are already shorted, so I'll see how it works today as I'll be out and about.
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Using the moto charger, I started with a full battery, watched 70 minutes of streaming video in the Plex app this morning -- with a mix of 4G/LTE -- and unplugged with a full 100% charge at the end of that 70 minutes. Good stuff!
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The car charger? Or a moto wall charger?
This post is not meant to ask a question, but to answer some. Hopefully it will help someone. It might get lengthy, so if you're not into reading it all, scroll to the bottom for the cliff notes.
Like many others I've seen here and around the web, I was having trouble with my Note charging really slow. It only seemed to charge at a reasonable rate with the stock charger that shipped with it (~3 hours 0 to 100). I didn't expect much out of my PC USB ports because they are only 500mA max (as are most), but I have several 1A USB chargers that I used to use with my iphone without a noticeable problem. Being that they are 1A just as the samsung stock charger is, I was baffled as to why they would not charge at the same rate. I even tried my wife's ipad charger which is 2A and that did not make any difference, it was just as slow as my (non samsung) 1A chargers. It did not matter which cable I used, from the stock samsung one that shipped with the Note to a number of other ones I have.
I finally had had it and after searching all over and not finding any answers other than people's anecdotal stories about what works for them, and deciding that way too much of that was just placebo (ie people saying the ipad charger charged faster, and I know it does not). I cut one of my charger cables (USB type A male to micro USB male) open, and did a few experiments with my multimeter to determine the current levels for my various chargers under various scenarios.
I tested 4 different chargers. The black samsung charger that came with the phone, a white iphone one that is a cube like the samsung one, also 1A max, a stock 2A ipad charger, and an external 5000mAh USB charging battery pack that puts out 750mA max.
I had heard that the data+ and data- pins needed to be shorted on samsung phones in order to charge properly, so I tested the charging current with these pins shorted, with these pins connected straight through (as is a normal charging cable), and with these pins open (5V power and ground only).
Here are the results:
Black stock samsung charger (1A):
-Data lines connected straight through, which is essentially just a completely normal data/charge USB type A to USB micro cable = 960mA.
-Data lines not connected, open on both ends, only USB power 5V and ground connected = 440mA.
-*Modified cable* so that the data lines on the micro USB side (phone side) shorted = 960mA.
White iphone 1A charger:
-Data lines connected straight through (stock cable) = 440mA.
-Data lines open, not connected on either end = 440mA.
-*Modified cable* so that data lines on the micro USB side shorted = 900-910mA with phone screen on, 850mA with phone screen off. I assume that what might have been happening here is that the charge current was just going up when the phone was drawing more current because the screen was lit up. I don't think it was actually affecting charge speed, it was just maintaining the same charge but providing more power so that the screen could stay lit without affecting the charging rate. I don't know why it was doing this though because the stock samsung charger did not do this.
-iPad 2A charger:
-Data lines connected straight through (stock cable) = 440mA.
-Data lines open on both ends = 440mA.
-*Modified cable* so that data lines shorted on phone micro USB side = 860mA whent he screen was on, 780mA screen off. Note that I'm surprised this did not go up to the same as the samsung stock charger or even as high as the 1A iphone charger. I don't know why? It is a genuine apple iPad charger that claims 10W which is 2A at 5V. As far as why it might have different currents for screen off and on, read my comments above for the white iphone charger that did the same thing.
External 5000mAh battery USB charger (750mA max claimed output):
-Data lines connected straight through (stock cable) = 440mA.
-Data lines open on both ends = 440mA.
-*Modified cable* so that data lines shorted on phone micro USB side = 760mA phone screen on, 700mA phone screen off.
So that's all the data. As you can see, it is very important that the USB data+ and data- lines are shorted together in order to charge at a fast rate. The problem is that all normal usb data/charge cables, including the stock samsung cable that came with the Note, do not have these pins shorted, so it is up to the charger itself to short these pins if it is to put out its max current to charge the Note. Obviously the stock samsung charger has them shorted, because it charges at a fast rate with a normal cable. But none of my other chargers, including the iphone and ipad charger, have these pins shorted, so the only way these other chargers I have will charge at their max current capability is by using a modified cable (which I made) that shorts the data+ and data- pins. Using this modified cable allows me to use any charger, and charge at its max output. Note that if you also make a cable that has these pins shorted, don't mistake it for a normal cable and try to plug it in to a computer or anything that plans to use the data lines as this could potentially damage that device.
Unfortunately at this time I do not have any recommendations for cables to buy that have the data+ and data- pins shorted, but I can recommend buying one from amazon for $1.50 and doing it yourself if you're capable, but again, be careful not to use it for anything but charging from a "dumb" AC (or car) charger. I do not take responsibility for any damage you might do to your charger or other equipment!!!!
Also unfortunately, I do not have any recommendations for chargers which definitely have the data lines shorted in order to charge quickly. I have another charger or two that I can test, but don't have them with me now. I would imagine that all samsung chargers will have the appropriate pins shorted and will charge at their max capacity. I doubt the Note (without modifications) can charge any faster than ~960mA, though, so you're spinning your wheels using a 2A charger, and in the case of something like the iPad charger, at least the genuine apple one I have, with a normal cable, it actually does not charge even half as fast as the stock samsung charger, and even with a modified cable that shorts the data lines, it's still not as fast as the stock charger, although it's pretty close (probably wouldn't notice much difference in real usage unless you really measured your charge time). I'm hoping to order a few more chargers to test, in hopes of finding a cheap aftermarket one that we can use with our Notes that already has the pins shorted.
*Cliff notes* -- I physically measured the output current during charging of my SGH-I717 AT&T Note for a few different USB chargers I have, and discovered that all of them (that I personally have) except the stock samsung charger do not have the data+ and data- lines shorted, which means that you'll be charging at 440mA of current, regardless of the rating of your USB charger. This is less than half the current of the stock samsung charger, meaning it will take more than twice as long to charge your phone. In fact, if you're using you're phone during charging, there's a good chance that not only will it not charge, but it will actually drain the battery a little bit, because 440mA is barely enough to run the phone (depending on what you're doing). So while you think you're charging with the same charger because it's rated at 1A or even 2A, chances are you actually are only charging at 440mA, the same as from a USB computer port, and it is going to take a realllly long time to charge compared to your stock samsung charger. Bottom line, use the stock samsung charger until we can test a few different chargers and compile a list of ones that have the data lines shorted so that they can charge your Note at their full current capability.
Hopefully this is helpful to answer some of the questions about why the Note seems to be charging slow for some people and not for others. I imagine that there are some USB chargers out there that have the data lines shorted and others that do not. Until I can get my hands on a few more (I'm going to order a couple different ones from amazon) and test them, I don't have any recommendations for now other than to use your stock charger, and most likely any genuine samsung replacement charger rated at 1A or more (though it probably will not use more).
wow! Thanks for investigating this!
This wad good info bruh.....thanks for the time u took man.
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Wow that is pure science....
As I'be been posting everywhere, fast chargers short the middle 2 pins. The phone sees this and determines it's a "wall charger". I always recommend the Motorola car charger as it's confirmed to have shorted data pins, or short them yourself with a dab of solder within the cable. Don't use it for data though. Won't hurt, but won't work!
Edit: fantastic work though, thanks for taking the time!
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Thanks for the tip on the motorola charger having the pins shorted. Is this the one you're talking about?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938811&pf_rd_i=507846
Here's my dilemma. I used the stock Samsung cable with a 2.1A rated adapter from TomTom (rapid charge) as it was said it might be the pin configuration and lost more charge than using the same adapter with a universal Belkin mini USB cable with a micro adapter. My issue is that while using the GPS and streaming music, the phone loses charge while on the charger!
This is not acceptable.
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Yes. Thats the one they elude to. Ebay has them for $7.59 with free shipping.
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Thanks for all that - very helpful. I was planning to try the iPad charger (mentioned it in another thread) but time got away from me. This is great information to have.
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Here's my dilemma. I used the stock Samsung cable with a 2.1A rated adapter from TomTom (rapid charge) as it was said it might be the pin configuration and lost more charge than using the same adapter with a universal Belkin mini USB cable with a micro adapter. My issue is that while using the GPS and streaming music, the phone loses charge while on the charger!
This is not acceptable.
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The stock cable does not have the data pins shorted, the actual AC wall adapter does.
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Thanks pj_rage.
I'm pretty good electrically, but a bit less so with google. I searched, and likely didn't use the right string (happens pretty often with me). Got a diagram or a link to a diagram so I can see which two pins need shorting?
Makes more sense to me to go and modify all my car chargers rather than modify cables. I'll never use a car charger to transfer data to a computer, but might use a cable in a car in a pinch if I needed to.
So if I were to use the home adapter with stock cable hooked up to a power inverter While in my car, I should expect the 960mAh output then?
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So if I were to use the home adapter with stock cable hooked up to a power inverter While in my car, I should expect the 960mAh output then?
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That should work, but kinda overkill. It's less cumbersome to either modify a dedicated cable or the car charger itself. Just short circuit the two middle pins.
Thanks for the research OP. Btw are you on AVS?
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pj_rage said:
Thanks for the tip on the motorola charger having the pins shorted. Is this the one you're talking about?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938811&pf_rd_i=507846
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That's the one
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Think the problem is people are not allowing their phones to drain before placing back on charger. My first out of box battery was about 40% didn't charge it till it was about 5-7% left. 2nd day I charged it to 100% which took about 3.5 hrs and than let it drain to about 20% before I put it back on the charger. 3rd day let it drop to 15% battery and placed on charger again. I've had my phone for almost 4 days and so far no problems, battery last 18-20 hrs on avg. Just my input I guess.
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So if I were to use the home adapter with stock cable hooked up to a power inverter While in my car, I should expect the 960mAh output then?
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I've also seen issues with other phones when charging off a inverters with random reboots, some charge, some don't etc.
Envy Diz said:
Think the problem is people are not allowing their phones to drain before placing back on charger. My first out of box battery was about 40% didn't charge it till it was about 5-7% left. 2nd day I charged it to 100% which took about 3.5 hrs and than let it drain to about 20% before I put it back on the charger. 3rd day let it drop to 15% battery and placed on charger again. I've had my phone for almost 4 days and so far no problems, battery last 18-20 hrs on avg. Just my input I guess.
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Lithium ion batteries don't work that way, and actually, they prefer short, fast charges. Android, on the other hand, seems to like a full cycle or two to calibrate its battery stats, but that might just be a myth.
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I too have been troubled with poor battery life and slow charge. Here is what I have experienced:
I charge mine overnight for 9 hours. Every day I take the phone off the charger and I notice it is at 98%. Then I struggle to get through the day.
One day I switched phones in the evening, so the Note was left on the charger for 12 hours. When I took it off next morning, it said 100%. Low and behold... I was left with about 20% more at the end of a typical use day. Does this meen that the 2% extra charge makes that much difference?
I too have tried all of the different high amp chargers with all of the same results.
I guess I was just trying to understand with the OEM charger where the "shorting takes place.
nm3th said:
That should work, but kinda overkill. It's less cumbersome to either modify a dedicated cable or the car charger itself. Just short circuit the two middle pins.
Thanks for the research OP. Btw are you on AVS?
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over2land said:
Thanks pj_rage.
I'm pretty good electrically, but a bit less so with google. I searched, and likely didn't use the right string (happens pretty often with me). Got a diagram or a link to a diagram so I can see which two pins need shorting?
Makes more sense to me to go and modify all my car chargers rather than modify cables. I'll never use a car charger to transfer data to a computer, but might use a cable in a car in a pinch if I needed to.
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I don't have a link to a diagram (you can just Google USB pinout if you want it). I can try to find one later if you still need it. You want the two data lines shorted together. If you cut the cable in half as I did, you only need to short them on the phone side. The other side you can leave open if you want.
But you're absolutely right it would probably be a better idea to short the pins on the charger side. My issue is that my chargers are not easily opened. The cable on the other hand is a quick mod.
If I did it again I would just shave off some insulation from the cable to access the wires without cutting them, leave the power connected, and just cut and short the two data lines on the phone side and tape or heat shrink it up. Fwiw the power lines on my cable were red and black, black being ground, and the data lines were yellow and green. I believe this is standard but I should advise you that it would be prudent to beep it out to the connectors to be certain.
Regarding using an inverter and your home charger in your car, yes this would give you the best charge rate. Supposedly the linked Motorola charger has the pins shorted which would be a less cumbersome setup to provide the same or very similar charging rate. I've ordered one, so I'll report back.
And yeah I'm on AVS as well, same username.
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From the "Ultimate AT&T Galaxy Note Accessory Guide" thread:
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13. Car Charger + Power Inverters
$10 -- PowerGen Dual USB 2A Heavy Duty Ouput Car Charger for Apple iPad 2, iPhone 4 4s 3Gs 3G, iPod Touch (USB Cable not included) --- Review
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Has anyone else used the PowerGen car charger with the Note? I have a handful of other ones that all claim to fast-charge devices, but apparently it only works with iPhones and iPads. But since the PowerGen unit is on the list, can I assume people have used it and confirmed it will give me a 1A charge rate on the Note? I need a charger that can keep up with the Note occasionally drawing 1.4 A or more (display 100% brightness, GPS, LTE, Bluetooth all active, running Navigation).
A quick search for "powergen" in this forum only brings up the above thread.
Works like a champ. My battery was charging at 1600mAh while streaming soundcloud and using navigation. Definitely does the job.
I am using my car charger for galaxy tab 10.1 (2.0 amp) and it is working much better than any of the 1 amp chargers I have tried, OEM, boxwave, etc...
I also use the GT 101. 110V charging brick, so when I travel, only one brick and two cables. My experience is that the 2 amp charger works really well and will charge the phone while using GPS full time, where the OEM charger and other 1 amp chargers either maintain charge, or slightly discharge.
Thanks for the confirmation! Of course, now I discover Amazon won't ship that to Canada, and amazon.ca does not carry it. :crying: I'd go see what TELUS has to offer, but I'm sure it will be A) expensive and B) not have dual USB ports, or perhaps not even a detachable cord.
If you do find one, also buy a charge-only usb cord.
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If you do find one, also buy a charge-only usb cord.
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Is that still needed if the charger itself correctly supports fast charging? The cord I use now is the one from my Touchpad. I get 1 A to the Note from the AC plug, and the Touchpad gets around 1.8 A. I do also have a charge-only cable (much thinner cord, only two wires), but it doesn't seem to make a difference.
taob said:
Is that still needed if the charger itself correctly supports fast charging? The cord I use now is the one from my Touchpad. I get 1 A to the Note from the AC plug, and the Touchpad gets around 1.8 A. I do also have a charge-only cable (much thinner cord, only two wires), but it doesn't seem to make a difference.
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The cord from the touchpad is probably wired correctly internally for fast charge. I bought a similar dual car charger and did not see a difference with the micro usb sync cable. I only saw a difference with a charge-only micro usb cable. The phone sees what pins are connected and determines if it is going to charge in usb charge mode(<=500ma) or AC charge mode(>=500ma).
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The cord from the touchpad is probably wired correctly internally for fast charge. I bought a similar dual car charger and did not see a difference with the micro usb sync cable. I only saw a difference with a charge-only micro usb cable. The phone sees what pins are connected and determines if it is going to charge in usb charge mode(<=500ma) or AC charge mode(>=500ma).
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So you use the Touchpad USB micro cable to charge your Note in the car? I thought the cable is too short? I am looking for a LONG USB micro cable that is shorted so it will give >500mA.
I am planning to buy the PowerGen but I need recommendation on the CORRECT USB cable that is long enough.
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slapshot591 said:
Works like a champ. My battery was charging at 1600mAh while streaming soundcloud and using navigation. Definitely does the job.
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What cable do you use?
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The cord from the touchpad is probably wired correctly internally for fast charge.
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I don't think it is, because it also works as a normal USB data cable. If pins 2 and 3 are shorted (D+ and D-), then the cable become "charge only" and cannot be used for data.
I bought a similar dual car charger and did not see a difference with the micro usb sync cable. I only saw a difference with a charge-only micro usb cable.
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Then it sounds like that car charger was an "iPad-compatible" one, i.e.: it does not have D+/D- shorted out to indicate to non-Apple devices that it is capable of more than 500 mA.
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So you use the Touchpad USB micro cable to charge your Note in the car? I thought the cable is too short?
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The cable is about a meter in length. I only need about half that to reach from the plug to the phone mount on the dash.
taob said:
I don't think it is, because it also works as a normal USB data cable. If pins 2 and 3 are shorted (D+ and D-), then the cable become "charge only" and cannot be used for data.
Then it sounds like that car charger was an "iPad-compatible" one, i.e.: it does not have D+/D- shorted out to indicate to non-Apple devices that it is capable of more than 500 mA.
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So then how does it charge fast then? If the cable isn't shorted? Motorola does the same thing. IIRC its a shorted setup to allow for fast charging. All of my USB cables come from Samsung, HP, and Motorola and I use them as data cables as well
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So then how does it charge fast then? If the cable isn't shorted?
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You short the pins inside the AC adapter or car charger, rather than the cable. If I understand correctly, the danger of using a charge-only cable is if you plug it into an actual USB port that isn't designed to supply more than 500 mA. Your device could then try to pull down, say, 2000 mA and potentially damage the power supply on your laptop or desktop.
taob said:
You short the pins inside the AC adapter or car charger, rather than the cable. If I understand correctly, the danger of using a charge-only cable is if you plug it into an actual USB port that isn't designed to supply more than 500 mA. Your device could then try to pull down, say, 2000 mA and potentially damage the power supply on your laptop or desktop.
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Ahh OK. Well, the cigarette lighter/USB converters must act like shorted out wall chargers.
That's my setup.
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I'm using the Rocketfish 3.1A Model# RF-M657D with my Note. While using Google Nav, lowest brightness, keys backlight off, Sync off, HSPA+, the phone still loses charge (albeit, slowly). I'm assuming this is because the charger is not internally shorted between pins two and three as it is marketed as a iPad/iPhone charger. I'm using a Belkin Data/Charge cable so I know that is not shorted.
I have been doing some reading and last night, I purchased the "Satechi Smart Adapter Compatible with Samsung Galaxy S (I can't post links yet, google it.) so I will report back when I receive and pair it with the Rocketfish.
One thing I can't understand is how some of you have reported 1600mA from your car chargers. I am reading that without this adapter/cable mod, the Note will only run 460mA or so. With the adapter/cable mod, the Note's hardware maxes out at 960mA. Also, is their an app that allows me to see how much amperage the Note is receiving or are you guys pulling out the multimeter?
slapshot591 said:
Works like a champ. My battery was charging at 1600mAh while streaming soundcloud and using navigation. Definitely does the job.
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Where/how do you get this info? Asking because I'm curious to see how my car charger does. It has usb ports rated at 2A, and I think it's 2A shared instead of per port, but want to see how it actually does when plugged in.
btswein said:
I'm using the Rocketfish 3.1A Model# RF-M657D with my Note. While using Google Nav, lowest brightness, keys backlight off, Sync off, HSPA+, the phone still loses charge (albeit, slowly). I'm assuming this is because the charger is not internally shorted between pins two and three as it is marketed as a iPad/iPhone charger. I'm using a Belkin Data/Charge cable so I know that is not shorted.
I have been doing some reading and last night, I purchased the "Satechi Smart Adapter Compatible with Samsung Galaxy S (I can't post links yet, google it.) so I will report back when I receive and pair it with the Rocketfish.
One thing I can't understand is how some of you have reported 1600mA from your car chargers. I am reading that without this adapter/cable mod, the Note will only run 460mA or so. With the adapter/cable mod, the Note's hardware maxes out at 960mA. Also, is their an app that allows me to see how much amperage the Note is receiving or are you guys pulling out the multimeter?
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My rocket fish model must put out more than yours. My pic is above your post. With Google Nav, Google play music (streaming, not native music), full sync, brightness to at least 50% it only lost 4% over 30-40mins.
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erick161 said:
My rocket fish model must put out more than yours. My pic is above your post. With Google Nav, Google play music (streaming, not native music), full sync, brightness to at least 50% it only lost 4% over 30-40mins.
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From what I read, your charger is an .5 amp.
It's not like my phone dies or anything, but it'll lose like 5% an hour and I could be exaggerating. Are you using a charge-only cable or modded cable/charger at all? Like I said, I think this phone is only pulling down 460mA without said mod and I find 1600mA to be incorrect as I read the Note will only pull down 960mA max. We'll see what this adapter does for my charge times.
btswein said:
From what I read, your charger is an .5 amp.
It's not like my phone dies or anything, but it'll lose like 5% an hour and I could be exaggerating. Are you using a charge-only cable or modded cable/charger at all? Like I said, I think this phone is only pulling down 460mA without said mod and I find 1600mA to be incorrect as I read the Note will only pull down 960mA max. We'll see what this adapter does for my charge times.
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They only thing I'm using is that exact setup posted. RF adapter and a Motorola atrix desktop dock charge cable.. (basically just a longer version of the standard wall charger)
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erick161 said:
They only thing I'm using is that exact setup posted. RF adapter and a Motorola atrix desktop dock charge cable.. (basically just a longer version of the standard wall charger)
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Ah, charge-only cable is the main factor here.
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Ah, charge-only cable is the main factor here.
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OK, I lied, I'm using the OEM cable that came with the Motorola Atrix 4G, not the longer cable from the desktop dock. I just checked my car and that's the cable that's in there.
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I'm switching from iPhone to the note 3. As a result, I will need to replace all of my chargers. I would like to order about 6 chargers and I want them to be a little longer than normal because I would constantly get fed up with the short apple cable. The new chargers should be the correct voltages for the Note. I would prefer the cable to be detachable from the power supply. Is there a goto charger that you guys use? Thanks!
Gotta see what voltage the note3 will carry. Also do you want all the cables to be the Micro USB 3.0 or 2.0?
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Gotta see what voltage the note3 will carry. Also do you want all the cables to be the Micro USB 3.0 or 2.0?
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Well from what I've read, USB 2.0 will charge just as fast from a wall outlet. I will just use the one USB 3.0 that comes with phone for my computer. So I will primarily be using these from a wall charger so I'll go with whichever one is cheaper.
You can also just goto Amazon.com and look for microUSB 3.0 cables and find plenty of them since its an industry standard and you don't have to pay $29 for a cable like apple rips their isheep off with.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_n...+USB+3.0+cable&rh=i:aps,k:micro+USB+3.0+cable
will7357 said:
Well from what I've read, USB 2.0 will charge just as fast from a wall outlet. I will just use the one USB 3.0 that comes with phone for my computer. So I will primarily be using these from a wall charger so I'll go with whichever one is cheaper.
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Just a tip-- When I had my Note 2, I purchased extra USB cords from E-Bay. It might not hurt to check Samsung's website and look at the product name/ID for their OEM items, and then just get a few of those off E-Bay or Amazon. the native Samsung A/C Adapter with the powerful amps makes a huge difference too. and you can almost always get it for under $10.
Does the Note 3 have wireless charging?
jollyjones said:
Does the Note 3 have wireless charging?
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I'm not 100% on this but from what I have gathered it has the wireless charging pins but you would have to buy the Samsung wireless charging back plate for it similar to the S4.
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will7357 said:
Well from what I've read, USB 2.0 will charge just as fast from a wall outlet. I will just use the one USB 3.0 that comes with phone for my computer. So I will primarily be using these from a wall charger so I'll go with whichever one is cheaper.
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Not sure where your from...but if you have a 5 below store you can buy chargers, cables, cases for your note for $5 or less....I bought them for the note 2 and all worked without issue...:laugh:
Theres no point for usb 3 cables, they only add data pins. BUT if you plug into a real usb 3 port/computer, the phone MAY tell it to send higher wattage.
RaptorMD said:
You can also just goto Amazon.com and look for microUSB 3.0 cables and find plenty of them since its an industry standard and you don't have to pay $29 for a cable like apple rips their isheep off with.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_n...+USB+3.0+cable&rh=i:aps,k:micro+USB+3.0+cable
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jollyjones said:
Does the Note 3 have wireless charging?
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You can buy the wireless charging battery door from Samsung or Samsung S-View cover with wireless charging built in and get the wireless charger.
the standard usb cables of galaxy s3 will not fit to the note 3 ?
update : i see now review that show that the standard usb2 cable will fit too
eldhojohn said:
Just found this, http://dx-box.com/original-new-micr...ta-cable-for-samsung-galaxy-note-3-n9000.html
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Thanks this looks good
How much is the Orignal Charging wire
here its not available yet
I am in the same predicament, I just want a 3m or 5m cable because the stock cable is too short for my liking, but the data socket on the note 3 is different then the other Samsung products, im guessing that this is a result of the usb3, but so far I haven't found anything on amazon or eBay that has the new socket only the old micro usb plugs which is know good to me,
And help would be great, I'm from the UK so shipping must include that.
Cheers guys
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budgierless said:
I am in the same predicament, I just want a 3m or 5m cable because the stock cable is too short for my liking, but the data socket on the note 3 is different then the other Samsung products, im guessing that this is a result of the usb3, but so far I haven't found anything on amazon or eBay that has the new socket only the old micro usb plugs which is know good to me,
And help would be great, I'm from the UK so shipping must include that.
Cheers guys
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you can use the old micro usb 2.0 cables just fine
budgierless said:
I am in the same predicament, I just want a 3m or 5m cable because the stock cable is too short for my liking, but the data socket on the note 3 is different then the other Samsung products, im guessing that this is a result of the usb3, but so far I haven't found anything on amazon or eBay that has the new socket only the old micro usb plugs which is know good to me,
And help would be great, I'm from the UK so shipping must include that.
Cheers guys
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Here's one from Amazon US that is 9 feet, http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-USB-Cable-Micro-Meters/dp/B00B7WGH48/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1381072931&sr=8-4&keywords=USB+3.0+Cable
Also, you can use your micro usb chargers, just plug it into the bigger side of the usb 3 socket. It won't be long before we all have a bunch of usb 3 cables lying around though, as more hard drives and stuff come with them.
Oh wow so that's why the new port looks that way, backwards compatibility!! Nice oh problem solved, I still need a longer cable as my usb3 socket is a bit awkward to get to on my PC, so I wil look at the suggested weblink and see what happens,
Thanks dudes
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anyone know if this is like the note 1, where you use a non-samsung cable, the charging voltage was reduced? there was some command to run in a terminal window that showed charge current. i don't recall.
i don't know if that's what did it, but at some point my note1's battery got ruined..where i couldn't get more than 10 minutes off the charger without a forced reboot. and all sorts of weirdness.
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anyone know if this is like the note 1, where you use a non-samsung cable, the charging voltage was reduced? there was some command to run in a terminal window that showed charge current. i don't recall.
i don't know if that's what did it, but at some point my note1's battery got ruined..where i couldn't get more than 10 minutes off the charger without a forced reboot. and all sorts of weirdness.
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I've used non OEM cables and wall plugs, and it charges the same.
USB 2.0, USB 3.0 doesn't make a difference. OEM, non OEM doesn't make a difference.
OEM puts out at least 2 amps. Alot of other chargers put out much less so it will take longer to charge.
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I bought an Xtreme 2.1 amp car charger but I noticed once charged my note 3 gets hot (110 F when I unplugged it).
Would using the oem cable be likely to help? The Motorola USB to micro plug cable I used did not cause overheating on an ac plug.
Can you suggest a car charger that works well without causing the phone to get hot?
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The official samsung car charger works very good for me.
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Where did u get it? Is it microUSB Car Charger
Model ECA-U16CBE
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I've gotnit from a local store in the netherlands
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Ah, no samsung stores here. Verizon carries there own not samsung. On eBay and Amazon terrible reviews so not sure it is oem even though they say it is. Do you know the model number you have?
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Car Charger
Hi I am using this for car charging. USB outpu is coded for samsung so it can charge with full capacity (as wall charger)
http://dx.com/p/dual-usb-3-1a-car-c...-mini-samsung-p1000-black-171789#.UuV45NJajIU
Electronics in it has very high coversition efficiency (%95 effc. 14V to 5V conversition) so it will not heat up.
Two independent ports one 1A and other 2.1A
Wish helps,
kadiremrah said:
Hi I am using this for car charging. USB outpu is coded for samsung so it can charge with full capacity (as wall charger)
http://dx.com/p/dual-usb-3-1a-car-c...-mini-samsung-p1000-black-171789#.UuV45NJajIU
Electronics in it has very high coversition efficiency (%95 effc. 14V to 5V conversition) so it will not heat up.
Two independent ports one 1A and other 2.1A
Wish helps,
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I'm surprised usually deal extreme is junk
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ST Microelectronics L6910 and variants
It uses cheap but efficient STMicroelectronic chips,
So it is not a crap at the moment. But it can vary batch to batch on DX as always.
You seem to know a lot about electronics. Does the cable I use matter or is the charger primarily responsible for overheating?
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recDNA said:
You seem to know a lot about electronics. Does the cable I use matter or is the charger primarily responsible for overheating?
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1- if charger has low efficiency the loosed energy will turn to heat on charger. Generally efficiency is near 80% and it translate to near 2~3watt energy loose on full power. It will heat this little chargers very fast.
2- if the cable is too thin or connectors oxided, power loose on cable will heat cable, charger also phone. If the problem is cable charge time will decrease when cable heated. So if your charge time is ok, problem is dc-dc convertion efficiency.
You mention low efficiency getting charger hot. It wasn't., nor was the cable. Only the phone was hot.
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recDNA said:
You mention low efficiency getting charger hot. It wasn't., nor was the cable. Only the phone was hot.
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chargers output voltage and ripple must be measured.
Voltage higher than 5.5V or voltage ripple can cause this. Charger voltage can ripple from 4V to 6V and you can only measure 5V avarage voltage with standart multimeters. Be carefull and do not use that charger.
Im using this one from Verizon. It works very well and has a handy led light
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GB8XIZO/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_dYA5sb151K585
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Good info on car charger
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Anker® Dual Port USB 18W Car Charger
I just bought this one from Anker. http://amzn.com/B00DDLYCUW
Ran my n3 with gps, spotify, OutLoud reading my texts, all while driving and it was charging up, not draining.
Anker is a good company, Amazon is a good company, and you can't go wrong for $8.
I'm using a pny cigarette to USB adapter 2.1mah ($6 amazon) with a stock Samsung micro usb cable ($3 amazon) and my phone doesn't get hot
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http://www.amazon.com/TechMatte-Dua...HSZG8/ref=aag_m_pw_dp?ie=UTF8&m=AG8AYSVS7E5IO
That's what I use and it's AWESOME!! It's got a 1 Amp port and 2.1 Amp port. Also, you get 2 in the package, one in white and one in black! Best deal online, not to mention the best charger I've used!!
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Those are all too long to fit in my ash tray.
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Neo3D said:
Those are all too long to fit in my ash tray.
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You can try this?
I have a 2010 Mercedes c class and needed one that wouldn't stick out too much so I can shut the ash tray cover and this works well and charges fast.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B007QRX54S
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