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HI to all,
Sorry I am a noob here.
I have rooted my live with walkman ICS 4.0 by downgrading then rooting then upgrading it as seen on one of the popular XDA forums.
Currently my version is 4.1.b.0.431 and now I have got the update notification on my phone for version 4.1.b.0.587.
If I do this update then will I lose my root(superuser rights) or not?
Yes, at least if you are updating with SEUS.
Root access is easily regained, e.g. if you have unlocked your bootloader and follow the instructions which comes along with the usage of recoveryARC.img by Team FreeXperia.
SEUS?
ok thanks for ur support. But I have few more questions..
My bootloader is not unlocked and The notification comes in the handset itself
in the application "Update center" and this is according to me OTA update.
Is this same what you call SEUS ??
So if I update not via "sony pc companion" but via this update centre through phone itself then also I lose the superuser rights??
You will have to re-root your phone after update.
It can be done easily following this tutorial: http://talk.sonymobile.com/thread/41119
It doesn't have any major changes but fixes some annoying lag on the phone dialer.
It also doesn't have flash player anymore so make sure you backup flash player and install it manually after.
hey thanks for helping me with this.
I already did the same procedure as shown but instead of flashing with 0.587 version I used 0.431.
Now my fone update centre shows 0.587 version available and it can be updated OTA(15.7mb).So my main question is if i now use this update centre to update my version instead of flashtool, will i lose my root access?
Yes, unfortunately. However, regain root access by the many tutorials seen on this board. If not, I am sure there are already people out there who has uploaded pre-rooted .587 images.
In the long run, if you are thinking of digging deeper into modding/hacking/development/whatever, I would advice you to unlock your bootloader if this is not already done. This will also be helpful if you want to make an nandroid backup of all your current content.
There is an official Sony (Ericsson) procedure at http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com, but I recommend you to use the s1tool + testpoint procedure if you want to keep the DRM keys intact. The testpoint differs from the Xperia 2011 models, so you have to search for your specific model. As far as I know, the Arc S (LT18) is excluded to this method.
tany with walkman said:
hey thanks for helping me with this.
I already did the same procedure as shown but instead of flashing with 0.587 version I used 0.431.
Now my fone update centre shows 0.587 version available and it can be updated OTA(15.7mb).So my main question is if i now use this update centre to update my version instead of flashtool, will i lose my root access?
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In not 100% sure what version you are now on but this link is awesome: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1683957
All you have to do is flash with a rootable kernel, root and then flash back to the latest 0.587 kernel and you are rooted to the latest.
There is no need to downgrade the entire software just flash to a rootable kernel.
I hope this makes sense? But follow that link, it worked well for me.
hey thanx dude for all your support !!!!
Now the things are clear !!!
thanks once again !!!!:good:
sblob said:
In not 100% sure what version you are now on but this link is awesome: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1683957
All you have to do is flash with a rootable kernel, root and then flash back to the latest 0.587 kernel and you are rooted to the latest.
There is no need to downgrade the entire software just flash to a rootable kernel.
I hope this makes sense? But follow that link, it worked well for me.
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CMIIW, but we can't flash new kernel on a locked bootloader, can't we?
I tried this method on my 431 ICS and it didn't work. Same as "tany" did, I had to downgrade to GB first to gain root access.
But unfortunately, I just lost my root access after updating to 587 with SEUS.
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zigma80 said:
CMIIW, but we can't flash new kernel on a locked bootloader, can't we?
I tried this method on my 431 ICS and it didn't work. Same as "tany" did, I had to downgrade to GB first to gain root access.
But unfortunately, I just lost my root access after updating to 587 with SEUS.
Sent from my WT19i using xda app-developers app
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Now what i think is that we have to follow same steps for rooting (downgrading rooting and then upgrading)
but instead of flashing with 0.431 flash with .587 rom ftf file. this is the only way for a phone with locked bootloader :silly:
tany with walkman said:
Now what i think is that we have to follow same steps for rooting (downgrading rooting and then upgrading)
but instead of flashing with 0.431 flash with .587 rom ftf file. this is the only way for a phone with locked bootloader :silly:
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Yep, it is the only way. I just regain my root access on 587 ICS by the same method.
And it's safe
tany with walkman said:
Now what i think is that we have to follow same steps for rooting (downgrading rooting and then upgrading)
but instead of flashing with 0.431 flash with .587 rom ftf file. this is the only way for a phone with locked bootloader :silly:
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I must be honest, I'm not exactly sure what flashing the kernal did and then re-flashing but it allowed me to root my phone.
My phone has a locked boot loader.
Hi guys...
Last week my xperia mini ST15i just updated to 4.1.B.0.587
I am going to root, unlock bootloader and install custom rom on my phone, but looks like there is no clear instruction on how to root it...
I did found some instruction though, but i am not sure which is good :
1) http://talk.sonymobile.com/thread/41119
2) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1568792 (Should I follow the method for 4.1.B.0.431 ?)
3) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1923409
Which method i should follow?
And lastly, should I unlock the bootloader before root or after rooting?
Many thanks...
Look in my signature there's how to unlock bootloader.
You needn't root it before, but if I were you I would downgrade to gingerbread before unlocking bootloader, after that flash a prerooted kernel like rage kernel for gingerbread and your device will automaticly be rooted
Sent from my SK17i running Jelly Bean via CM10
mihahn said:
Look in my signature there's how to unlock bootloader.
You needn't root it before, but if I were you I would downgrade to gingerbread before unlocking bootloader, after that flash a prerooted kernel like rage kernel for gingerbread and your device will automaticly be rooted
Sent from my SK17i running Jelly Bean via CM10
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Thanks for your reply... :good:
What the different if I root it straight from ICS?
Those prerooted kernel comes with CWM recovery right?
boonwuilow said:
Thanks for your reply... :good:
What the different if I root it straight from ICS?
Those prerooted kernel comes with CWM recovery right?
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No there's no difference, do it on the software version you want.
Yes these prerooted kernels will root your device automaticly and cwm is built in the kernel
boonwuilow said:
Thanks for your reply... :good:
What the different if I root it straight from ICS?
Those prerooted kernel comes with CWM recovery right?
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1. No difference. You'll just have ics firmware . You can just unlock your bootloader the official way while in ics and just like that flash a custom prerooted ics kernel .
2. And yes all custom kernels for our device has cwm .
No need to downgrade to ginger bread just for gaining root access if you are going to unlock bootloader!
hit thanks if I've helped!
sent from my smultron
mihahn said:
No there's no difference, do it on the software version you want.
Yes these prerooted kernels will root your device automaticly and cwm is built in the kernel
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gouthamthemostwanted said:
1. No difference. You'll just have ics firmware . You can just unlock your bootloader the official way while in ics and just like that flash a custom prerooted ics kernel .
2. And yes all custom kernels for our device has cwm .
No need to downgrade to ginger bread just for gaining root access if you are going to unlock bootloader!
hit thanks if I've helped!
sent from my smultron
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Thanks for your explanation :thumbup:
If I just going to gain root access on my current version, which method method should I follow?
Sent from my ST15i
boonwuilow said:
Thanks for your explanation :thumbup:
If I just going to gain root access on my current version, which method method should I follow?
Sent from my ST15i
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I would use this method, but you need an .ftf of .587 for your device, if you have one, do it like explained there.
The kernel trick method is okay, too
I suggest you unlock your bootloader first by this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1560613
(it directly unlocks bootloader without writing any commands)
And then install a prerooted kernel via the above mentioned toolkit...
Your will be rooted and then just flash the custom ROM :thumbup:
And the best part... You don't need to downgrade to GB
Sent from SMULTRON running CM9
Hi, I know the update 4.1.b.0.587 it's out, and I want to update my mini pro, but I'm stuck on .431 so anybody knows how can I update my SK17A because I tried with SEUS, and it says I already have the last update, PC companion say's the same thing, so if someone could help me that will be perfect..I have the mini pro SK17A not the SK17I
At the moment,4.1.b.0.587 is out only for Sk17i i guess.
Sk17a is till .431 as of now.
Have you seen someone using an sk17a with .587?
http://naw32fsystem.blogspot.in/2012/09/all-xperia-2011-official-stock-firmware.html
Look in the thread by expeacer & thank him :good:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1902920
Cheers. =D
XxStatiX said:
At the moment,4.1.b.0.587 is out only for Sk17i i guess.
Sk17a is till .431 as of now.
Have you seen someone using an sk17a with .587?
http://naw32fsystem.blogspot.in/2012/09/all-xperia-2011-official-stock-firmware.html
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not really, but i dind't know that the sk17i was that different from the sk17a that's to bad, but i guess i should wait then
i guess i'm gonna forget about that update for know, so i have another question, and i hope someone could help me..as i have an stock rom, android 4.0.4, with stock kernel, compilation .431, no root, no unlocked bootloader, no nothing actually xD so my question is, my phone with ICS is a little slow, mostly on games, and i would like to know is what i need to do to solve that? i read on other threads that flashing a different kernel can fix that, it's that true? and besides, can i flash an custom kernel having an stock rom? how can i do that? i guess i need root on my phone first, i can do that, but i need to unlock the bootloader? that i don't want to do it
a stands for america!
And i is the international version!
That's what ive heard!
Idk what the differences are though
seleu said:
i guess i'm gonna forget about that update for know, so i have another question, and i hope someone could help me..as i have an stock rom, android 4.0.4, with stock kernel, compilation .431, no root, no unlocked bootloader, no nothing actually xD so my question is, my phone with ICS is a little slow, mostly on games, and i would like to know is what i need to do to solve that? i read on other threads that flashing a different kernel can fix that, it's that true? and besides, can i flash an custom kernel having an stock rom? how can i do that? i guess i need root on my phone first, i can do that, but i need to unlock the bootloader? that i don't want to do it
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Yes custom rom/kernel will make ur phone smooth in every way. But for trying custom kernel u need boot loader unlocked.But u can try custom rom without unlocking boot loader if u have rooted :good:
saqib nazm said:
Yes custom rom/kernel will make ur phone smooth in every way. But for trying custom kernel u need boot loader unlocked.But u can try custom rom without unlocking boot loader if u have rooted :good:
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Thanks! But i was talking about having stock rom with custom kernel, or do i need both for make it work better?..besides, the reason i haven't rooted my phone and unlocked the bootloader is becauses is to hard! XD i remember when i used to have a motorola milestone, you just need to install the app universal androot, or use superone click, and that's it, you have your phone rooted, but know it's to difficult, i have a galaxy nexus too, i recently root that one, and it wasn't easy either but i did it, but with this one, the xperia mini, it looks like having root and unlock the bootloader it's no for everyone
After rooting,when I'm on cyanogenmod9 on ics,I can overclock to 1.6 ghz too while gaming.no lag in using phone too.though my bootloader is unlocked. I would suggest you to root for a better experience!
Cheers.
seleu said:
Thanks! But i was talking about having stock rom with custom kernel, or do i need both for make it work better?..besides, the reason i haven't rooted my phone and unlocked the bootloader is becauses is to hard! XD i remember when i used to have a motorola milestone, you just need to install the app universal androot, or use superone click, and that's it, you have your phone rooted, but know it's to difficult, i have a galaxy nexus too, i recently root that one, and it wasn't easy either but i did it, but with this one, the xperia mini, it looks like having root and unlock the bootloader it's no for everyone
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U must unlock bootloader to use custom kernel even u use with stock rom.just unlock ur bootloader its not that tough.the easiest way to root after that just flash a custom kernel which is pre-rooted( like rage kernel & many) via flashtool.u will have root access
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saqib nazm said:
U must unlock bootloader to use custom kernel even u use with stock rom.just unlock ur bootloader its not that tough.the easiest way to root after that just flash a custom kernel which is pre-rooted( like rage kernel & many) via flashtool.u will have root access
Sent from my Xperia Live With Walkman using xda app-developers app
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Umm, so all i need to do is unlock the bootloader? Well i guess i can give it a try, thanks!
seleu said:
i guess i'm gonna forget about that update for know, so i have another question, and i hope someone could help me..as i have an stock rom, android 4.0.4, with stock kernel, compilation .431, no root, no unlocked bootloader, no nothing actually xD so my question is, my phone with ICS is a little slow, mostly on games, and i would like to know is what i need to do to solve that? i read on other threads that flashing a different kernel can fix that, it's that true? and besides, can i flash an custom kernel having an stock rom? how can i do that? i guess i need root on my phone first, i can do that, but i need to unlock the bootloader? that i don't want to do it
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To flash custom kernel you need unlocked bootloader, but for flashing custom ROM you need root and/or unlocked bootloader. Mostly of the ROMs work on locked bootloader too but if you want to play games so much you should Install Pure AOSP/AOKP based ROM and if you want best experience with games you should also install custom kernel.
seleu said:
Umm, so all i need to do is unlock the bootloader? Well i guess i can give it a try, thanks!
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Here brother,the sticky guide on unlocking your bootloader.
Its a little long,but easy! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1879750
Its worth it!
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Hey.
So I'm looking for a pre-rooted 4.0.2.A.0.62 kernel for my Ray. Where can I find it?
Thanks
zbanghy0ne said:
Hey.
So I'm looking for a pre-rooted 4.0.2.A.0.62 kernel for my Ray. Where can I find it?
Thanks
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Prerooted kernel? You mean the rom prerooted or a prerooted kernel?
If your bootloader is unlocked, flash a custom kernel for gingerbread like rage kernel, if it's locked you need to downgrade to root
I'm looking for the pre-rooted kernel only. I rooted my phone using the downgrade method, but it didn't turn out so well, also, I wasn't able to find any .42 specific to my location/released by my carrier, and it affected my signal strength.
zbanghy0ne said:
I'm looking for the pre-rooted kernel only. I rooted my phone using the downgrade method, but it didn't turn out so well, also, I wasn't able to find any .42 specific to my location/released by my carrier, and it affected my signal strength.
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There won't be a prerooted kernel, only if your bootloader is unlocked, then you can flash a prerooted kernel for gingerbread.
If it's locked, you could try to flash .42 kernel only and root on it. Afterwards flash .62 kernel again
So, mine is locked. Can I flash the kernel alone through Flashtool? Wouldn't that soft brick my device? Quote from this thread.
After flashing restart your device, It may not start completely, may remain at Sony logo or blank/black.
Whatever the status is, just restart your device and proceed with the next step.
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If I'm not able to start the phone, how am I going to be able tor root it? The zorgRush exploit needs a working ROM.
zbanghy0ne said:
So, mine is locked. Can I flash the kernel alone through Flashtool? Wouldn't that soft brick my device? Quote from this thread.
If I'm not able to start the phone, how am I going to be able tor root it? The zorgRush exploit needs a working ROM.
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It shouldn't brick your device and I think you should be able to root it when it's in a bootloop, otherwise they won't write it in a tutorial. With doomlord's toolkit or with flashtool it should work :good:
The trick didn't work. I wasn't able to root after downgrading the firmware. Maybe it only works with ICS. Anyway I'll just live with the bloatware for now.
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Thread moved. All questions belong here in Q&A.
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AvRS
4.0.2.A.0.42 can be rooted with the GB rooting kit. It is here on the forum, Search for it.
After that you can do OTA update to 4.0.2.A.0.62, if your bootloader is locked.
I was very happy with the performance of GB on my xperia U but there was no root for GB. I was told that in order to get root I have to update to ICS. So I did via update manager and am on the 6.1..54 firmware. Its horrible, slow and laggy.
I used both methods of rooting, flashtool and Bin4ry's both have failed and dont work. My phone cannot be rooted.
So can anyone tell me how I can root this firmware?
Also can I go back to stock GB? if yes please tell me how.
Thank you
farazk86 said:
I was very happy with the performance of GB on my xperia U but there was no root for GB. I was told that in order to get root I have to update to ICS. So I did via update manager and am on the 6.1..54 firmware. Its horrible, slow and laggy.
I used both methods of rooting, flashtool and Bin4ry's both have failed and dont work. My phone cannot be rooted.
So can anyone tell me how I can root this firmware?
Also can I go back to stock GB? if yes please tell me how.
Thank you
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did you check you havnt re locked boot locker?
farazk86 said:
I was very happy with the performance of GB on my xperia U but there was no root for GB. I was told that in order to get root I have to update to ICS. So I did via update manager and am on the 6.1..54 firmware. Its horrible, slow and laggy.
I used both methods of rooting, flashtool and Bin4ry's both have failed and dont work. My phone cannot be rooted.
So can anyone tell me how I can root this firmware?
Also can I go back to stock GB? if yes please tell me how.
Thank you
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.54 cannot be rooted using binary but theres a method where you have to flash the .10 kernel and then root using binary and flash back the .54 kernel and you will be rooted.......
Search the dev thread for it you will find the kernels........
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.54 cannot be rooted using binary but theres a method where you have to flash the .10 kernel and then root using binary and flash back the .54 kernel and you will be rooted.......
Search the dev thread for it you will find the kernels........
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Does this method require unlocked bootloader? I mean the one involving flashing .10 kernel and then back .54 one. Sorry for the "noobish" question, but I just began to explore the root/flashing aspects of my XGO and the proccess is completely different from my previous samsung phone, so it's like begining from zero point again at knowledge.
psylos said:
Does this method require unlocked bootloader? I mean the one involving flashing .10 kernel and then back .54 one. Sorry for the "noobish" question, but I just began to explore the root/flashing aspects of my XGO and the proccess is completely different from my previous samsung phone, so it's like begining from zero point again at knowledge.
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No. Flashing stock kernel does not require unlocked bootloader, u can keep it locked. there are plenty of guides available here so dont worry.
XperiaMT27 said:
No. Flashing stock kernel does not require unlocked bootloader, u can keep it locked. there are plenty of guides available here so dont worry.
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Thanks for the reply. Indeed I managed to root, install CWM recovery and flashed my first rom at my XGO.
Another "noobish" question if you can answer is that I backed up my rom before flashing the custom rom, yet in the clockwordmod folder in internal memory now there is nothing in it. Did the flashing erased my back up? So I cannot get my original FW, since I didn't back it up at my pc? I mean I had greek FW branded to a carrier, so if I need to send it to service, how am I supposed to get it back? To be honest I didn't see a such situation coming so I was unprepared. FYI I flashed [FXP210] XperiaPremiuM™ v4 from this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155343. Thanks for your help again!
psylos said:
Thanks for the reply. Indeed I managed to root, install CWM recovery and flashed my first rom at my XGO.
Another "noobish" question if you can answer is that I backed up my rom before flashing the custom rom, yet in the clockwordmod folder in internal memory now there is nothing in it. Did the flashing erased my back up? So I cannot get my original FW, since I didn't back it up at my pc? I mean I had greek FW branded to a carrier, so if I need to send it to service, how am I supposed to get it back? To be honest I didn't see a such situation coming so I was unprepared. FYI I flashed [FXP210] XperiaPremiuM™ v4 from this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155343. Thanks for your help again!
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if u unlocked ur bootloader than yes everything is erased. but u can find stock firwares in the dev section.
XperiaMT27 said:
if u unlocked ur bootloader than yes everything is erased. but u can find stock firwares in the dev section.
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No i didn't. I still have locked bootloader. that's why i flashed v4 rom for locked bootloader. Yet I may try v5, since it's compatible with LB as well. just i'll have to flash the boot.img through flashtool if I remember correctly from what I read in that thread.