HI to all,
Sorry I am a noob here.
I have rooted my live with walkman ICS 4.0 by downgrading then rooting then upgrading it as seen on one of the popular XDA forums.
Currently my version is 4.1.b.0.431 and now I have got the update notification on my phone for version 4.1.b.0.587.
If I do this update then will I lose my root(superuser rights) or not?
Yes, at least if you are updating with SEUS.
Root access is easily regained, e.g. if you have unlocked your bootloader and follow the instructions which comes along with the usage of recoveryARC.img by Team FreeXperia.
SEUS?
ok thanks for ur support. But I have few more questions..
My bootloader is not unlocked and The notification comes in the handset itself
in the application "Update center" and this is according to me OTA update.
Is this same what you call SEUS ??
So if I update not via "sony pc companion" but via this update centre through phone itself then also I lose the superuser rights??
You will have to re-root your phone after update.
It can be done easily following this tutorial: http://talk.sonymobile.com/thread/41119
It doesn't have any major changes but fixes some annoying lag on the phone dialer.
It also doesn't have flash player anymore so make sure you backup flash player and install it manually after.
hey thanks for helping me with this.
I already did the same procedure as shown but instead of flashing with 0.587 version I used 0.431.
Now my fone update centre shows 0.587 version available and it can be updated OTA(15.7mb).So my main question is if i now use this update centre to update my version instead of flashtool, will i lose my root access?
Yes, unfortunately. However, regain root access by the many tutorials seen on this board. If not, I am sure there are already people out there who has uploaded pre-rooted .587 images.
In the long run, if you are thinking of digging deeper into modding/hacking/development/whatever, I would advice you to unlock your bootloader if this is not already done. This will also be helpful if you want to make an nandroid backup of all your current content.
There is an official Sony (Ericsson) procedure at http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com, but I recommend you to use the s1tool + testpoint procedure if you want to keep the DRM keys intact. The testpoint differs from the Xperia 2011 models, so you have to search for your specific model. As far as I know, the Arc S (LT18) is excluded to this method.
tany with walkman said:
hey thanks for helping me with this.
I already did the same procedure as shown but instead of flashing with 0.587 version I used 0.431.
Now my fone update centre shows 0.587 version available and it can be updated OTA(15.7mb).So my main question is if i now use this update centre to update my version instead of flashtool, will i lose my root access?
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In not 100% sure what version you are now on but this link is awesome: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1683957
All you have to do is flash with a rootable kernel, root and then flash back to the latest 0.587 kernel and you are rooted to the latest.
There is no need to downgrade the entire software just flash to a rootable kernel.
I hope this makes sense? But follow that link, it worked well for me.
hey thanx dude for all your support !!!!
Now the things are clear !!!
thanks once again !!!!:good:
sblob said:
In not 100% sure what version you are now on but this link is awesome: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1683957
All you have to do is flash with a rootable kernel, root and then flash back to the latest 0.587 kernel and you are rooted to the latest.
There is no need to downgrade the entire software just flash to a rootable kernel.
I hope this makes sense? But follow that link, it worked well for me.
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CMIIW, but we can't flash new kernel on a locked bootloader, can't we?
I tried this method on my 431 ICS and it didn't work. Same as "tany" did, I had to downgrade to GB first to gain root access.
But unfortunately, I just lost my root access after updating to 587 with SEUS.
Sent from my WT19i using xda app-developers app
zigma80 said:
CMIIW, but we can't flash new kernel on a locked bootloader, can't we?
I tried this method on my 431 ICS and it didn't work. Same as "tany" did, I had to downgrade to GB first to gain root access.
But unfortunately, I just lost my root access after updating to 587 with SEUS.
Sent from my WT19i using xda app-developers app
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Now what i think is that we have to follow same steps for rooting (downgrading rooting and then upgrading)
but instead of flashing with 0.431 flash with .587 rom ftf file. this is the only way for a phone with locked bootloader :silly:
tany with walkman said:
Now what i think is that we have to follow same steps for rooting (downgrading rooting and then upgrading)
but instead of flashing with 0.431 flash with .587 rom ftf file. this is the only way for a phone with locked bootloader :silly:
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Yep, it is the only way. I just regain my root access on 587 ICS by the same method.
And it's safe
tany with walkman said:
Now what i think is that we have to follow same steps for rooting (downgrading rooting and then upgrading)
but instead of flashing with 0.431 flash with .587 rom ftf file. this is the only way for a phone with locked bootloader :silly:
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I must be honest, I'm not exactly sure what flashing the kernal did and then re-flashing but it allowed me to root my phone.
My phone has a locked boot loader.
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I have WT19i and i have unlocked the bootloader official method. Now i flashed .58 firmware and now i wanna update to .62 but i have read somewhere that after unlocking bootloader if u update the phone gets brick.
So any solution?
If i flash .62 firmware directly then would i get root access too?
cause i have root access in .58
converse5 said:
I have WT19i and i have unlocked the bootloader official method. Now i flashed .58 firmware and now i wanna update to .62 but i have read somewhere that after unlocking bootloader if u update the phone gets brick.
So any solution?
If i flash .62 firmware directly then would i get root access too?
cause i have root access in .58
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If you have stock kernel, just relock the bootloader. Making update directly from phone with unlocked bootloader causes brick indeed.
First relock the bootloader, then make update directly from the phone(3G or WiFi) to .62.
Relocking is written in my tutorial, check there if you need help how to do it.
If I relock bootloader, the process perform a wipe same as when I unlock via Sony Official Method ?
I want relock my bootloader, but with no wipe =D
(using stock kernel and stock .58FW)
Dont forget that wipe is best thing what you can do before upgrade to ics
Sent from my ST15i using XDA
I have Rage Kernel installed, so now what to do?
Or shall i flash a custom rom?
and one more thing, if i install custom rom then would i be able to upgrade to ics easily?
converse5 said:
I have Rage Kernel installed, so now what to do?
Or shall i flash a custom rom?
and one more thing, if i install custom rom then would i be able to upgrade to ics easily?
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Your question is already answered, on the ICS stuff. Reload original firmware just to be sure prior update, always perform clean wipe when shifting ROMS so as to avoid un-pleasant experience and make most of it.
Hello guys
I´m a newbie in this new phone... i owned an HTC HERO that i was completely good on rooting, installing ROMS etc...
But i´ve got this phone now.
Did a lot of research, read a lot of things but i´m not sure. Hope you guys can help me.
My Xperia mini pro is on its stock(factory) rom:
android 4.0.4
baseband 8x55A-AAABQOAZM-203028G-72
2.6.32.9 kernel
version 4.1.B.0.431
I´ve tried a lot of apps to root it(superoneclick, z4...) but none of them worked.
I´ve read that to root it, it should downgrade to another android version, root and them upgrade.
Is that correct? Or this device with this version of android and baseband can be rooted?
Thank you
Sergio.
It can't be rooted as it is now.
Either unlock the bootloader and install a pre-rooted kernel, or downgrade to GB and root it following THIS tutorial.
Also, if you read it already, I don't really understand why you are still asking how to do it
sergiopa said:
Hello guys
I´m a newbie in this new phone... i owned an HTC HERO that i was completely good on rooting, installing ROMS etc...
But i´ve got this phone now.
Did a lot of research, read a lot of things but i´m not sure. Hope you guys can help me.
My Xperia mini pro is on its stock(factory) rom:
android 4.0.4
baseband 8x55A-AAABQOAZM-203028G-72
2.6.32.9 kernel
version 4.1.B.0.431
I´ve tried a lot of apps to root it(superoneclick, z4...) but none of them worked.
I´ve read that to root it, it should downgrade to another android version, root and them upgrade.
Is that correct? Or this device with this version of android and baseband can be rooted?
Thank you
Sergio.
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ICS Firmware is impossible to root directly so far , you need to downgrade your phone to an older GB firmware if don't want to unlock bootloader here's the tutorial it's working 100%
Ok.. understanding more now...
which one is "safer" downgrading or custom kernel direct?
sergiopa said:
Ok.. understanding more now...
which one is "safer" downgrading or custom kernel direct?
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It's up to you .... if you want to unlock bootloader than only downgrading method is possible DO NOT flash a kernel with locked bootloader !
pator5 said:
It's up to you .... if you want to unlock bootloader than only downgrading method is possible DO NOT flash a kernel with locked bootloader !
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It's not bad if you try to install custom kernel with locked bootloader. The installation won't succeed as custom kernel has no official signature, so the installation won't be done.
http://talk.sonymobile.com/thread/41119
hit thanks if i helped you!!!
I used the dwn gradng process,,,nw rooted.
Sent from my ST15i using xda app-developers app
i advice yhu Unlock BL first using Test Point Method den install Custom Pre-Rooted Kernel or get a good Pre-Rooted ROM!!!
Test Point Method:- http://androidflip.com/unlock-xperia-phones-bootloader-without-losing-drm-data-track-id-working/
i used dat for my mini pro.....
Both methods are interesting......
Anyway, thank you very much guys, really.
Will try any of them soon.
Hi again Guys,
I need an info here.
I´ll downgrade the mini pro to GB and root.
After that, should i flash the ICS via flashtool or can i update it from SUS/Pc Companion or OTA?
In which case from SUS/PCCompanion or OTA i will loose the root?
Or i should ignore it and update via Flashtool?
I did not understand that part of the guide(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1695514)
try to make in a few words(correct me if i´m wrong):
Download GB firmware and flash using flashtool
Root via Doomlord
The part III(preparation to root 4.0.4) ok.
After this, this is my doubt. Should i Flash ICS from flashtool or update it by SUS/PCCompanion/OTA ?
Flash GB.
Root it.
Run push_local.prop.cmd
Upgrade to ICS:
a) Using Flashtool -> Make sure you don't Wipe data. uncheck that box.
b) Using PC Companion / SUS -> Make sure you choose not to wipe data, too.
Run the other file which name I don't remember
That's all
ICS is not available via OTA.
Doesn't matter how you update, as long as you do the 01-....cmd file before updating.
If you use Flashtool, make sure to uncheck Wipe Data option.
Greetings all, I wanted to root my Xperia Neo whose bootloader was unlocked. I flashed it with .42 firmware using flashtool and then rooted it with DoomLord toolkit, uninstalled all bloatwares using titnium backup and then relocked my bootloader. At the end I tried update to .62 over OTA but it fails Update center downloads the firmware properly but when it fails to install on my Neo. What should I do? please help
Thanks in advance..
nicks25 said:
Greetings all, I wanted to root my Xperia Neo whose bootloader was unlocked. I flashed it with .42 firmware using flashtool and then rooted it with DoomLord toolkit, uninstalled all bloatwares using titnium backup and then relocked my bootloader. At the end I tried update to .62 over OTA but it fails Update center downloads the firmware properly but when it fails to install on my Neo. What should I do? please help
Thanks in advance..
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just download a .62 ftf and flash it.. dont bother about the OTA..
nicks25:
Flash version .42
Root via Doomlord's method
KEEP THE PHONE SW UNTOUCHED!
Make OTA update to version .62
Now you can remove bloatware.
TheDarkDefender said:
just download a .62 ftf and flash it.. dont bother about the OTA..
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and after that unlock your BL and root it by flashing superuser.zip trough CWM.
@CZMagic thanks buddy, it worked. and before I read my answers here on this forum, I had already done the process said by u.
The mistake I was doing was that I altered .42 firmware by removing bloatwares first and then I was doing OTA update for .62 firmware.
that's wrong way.
So if somebody facing the same problem, kindly do the following,
1> flash .42 firmware ( latest flashtool version might not read this firmware, so I used some old version v6.x.x )
2>Then do Rooting by DooMLord method
3>Re-lock the bootloader
4>update firmware to .62 over the OTA
5>install titanium backup from market which is free or get root explorer from 4shared freely
6> Uninstall the bloatware, All done!
P.S: Hit the thanks button
TheDarkDefender said:
just download a .62 ftf and flash it.. dont bother about the OTA..
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flashing .62 FW with flashtool loses the root access duh, but OTA doesn't. That's why OTA is recommended..
Hey.
So I'm looking for a pre-rooted 4.0.2.A.0.62 kernel for my Ray. Where can I find it?
Thanks
zbanghy0ne said:
Hey.
So I'm looking for a pre-rooted 4.0.2.A.0.62 kernel for my Ray. Where can I find it?
Thanks
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Prerooted kernel? You mean the rom prerooted or a prerooted kernel?
If your bootloader is unlocked, flash a custom kernel for gingerbread like rage kernel, if it's locked you need to downgrade to root
I'm looking for the pre-rooted kernel only. I rooted my phone using the downgrade method, but it didn't turn out so well, also, I wasn't able to find any .42 specific to my location/released by my carrier, and it affected my signal strength.
zbanghy0ne said:
I'm looking for the pre-rooted kernel only. I rooted my phone using the downgrade method, but it didn't turn out so well, also, I wasn't able to find any .42 specific to my location/released by my carrier, and it affected my signal strength.
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There won't be a prerooted kernel, only if your bootloader is unlocked, then you can flash a prerooted kernel for gingerbread.
If it's locked, you could try to flash .42 kernel only and root on it. Afterwards flash .62 kernel again
So, mine is locked. Can I flash the kernel alone through Flashtool? Wouldn't that soft brick my device? Quote from this thread.
After flashing restart your device, It may not start completely, may remain at Sony logo or blank/black.
Whatever the status is, just restart your device and proceed with the next step.
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If I'm not able to start the phone, how am I going to be able tor root it? The zorgRush exploit needs a working ROM.
zbanghy0ne said:
So, mine is locked. Can I flash the kernel alone through Flashtool? Wouldn't that soft brick my device? Quote from this thread.
If I'm not able to start the phone, how am I going to be able tor root it? The zorgRush exploit needs a working ROM.
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It shouldn't brick your device and I think you should be able to root it when it's in a bootloop, otherwise they won't write it in a tutorial. With doomlord's toolkit or with flashtool it should work :good:
The trick didn't work. I wasn't able to root after downgrading the firmware. Maybe it only works with ICS. Anyway I'll just live with the bloatware for now.
Thanks
Thread moved. All questions belong here in Q&A.
Thanks
AvRS
4.0.2.A.0.42 can be rooted with the GB rooting kit. It is here on the forum, Search for it.
After that you can do OTA update to 4.0.2.A.0.62, if your bootloader is locked.
I was very happy with the performance of GB on my xperia U but there was no root for GB. I was told that in order to get root I have to update to ICS. So I did via update manager and am on the 6.1..54 firmware. Its horrible, slow and laggy.
I used both methods of rooting, flashtool and Bin4ry's both have failed and dont work. My phone cannot be rooted.
So can anyone tell me how I can root this firmware?
Also can I go back to stock GB? if yes please tell me how.
Thank you
farazk86 said:
I was very happy with the performance of GB on my xperia U but there was no root for GB. I was told that in order to get root I have to update to ICS. So I did via update manager and am on the 6.1..54 firmware. Its horrible, slow and laggy.
I used both methods of rooting, flashtool and Bin4ry's both have failed and dont work. My phone cannot be rooted.
So can anyone tell me how I can root this firmware?
Also can I go back to stock GB? if yes please tell me how.
Thank you
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did you check you havnt re locked boot locker?
farazk86 said:
I was very happy with the performance of GB on my xperia U but there was no root for GB. I was told that in order to get root I have to update to ICS. So I did via update manager and am on the 6.1..54 firmware. Its horrible, slow and laggy.
I used both methods of rooting, flashtool and Bin4ry's both have failed and dont work. My phone cannot be rooted.
So can anyone tell me how I can root this firmware?
Also can I go back to stock GB? if yes please tell me how.
Thank you
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.54 cannot be rooted using binary but theres a method where you have to flash the .10 kernel and then root using binary and flash back the .54 kernel and you will be rooted.......
Search the dev thread for it you will find the kernels........
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.54 cannot be rooted using binary but theres a method where you have to flash the .10 kernel and then root using binary and flash back the .54 kernel and you will be rooted.......
Search the dev thread for it you will find the kernels........
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Does this method require unlocked bootloader? I mean the one involving flashing .10 kernel and then back .54 one. Sorry for the "noobish" question, but I just began to explore the root/flashing aspects of my XGO and the proccess is completely different from my previous samsung phone, so it's like begining from zero point again at knowledge.
psylos said:
Does this method require unlocked bootloader? I mean the one involving flashing .10 kernel and then back .54 one. Sorry for the "noobish" question, but I just began to explore the root/flashing aspects of my XGO and the proccess is completely different from my previous samsung phone, so it's like begining from zero point again at knowledge.
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No. Flashing stock kernel does not require unlocked bootloader, u can keep it locked. there are plenty of guides available here so dont worry.
XperiaMT27 said:
No. Flashing stock kernel does not require unlocked bootloader, u can keep it locked. there are plenty of guides available here so dont worry.
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Thanks for the reply. Indeed I managed to root, install CWM recovery and flashed my first rom at my XGO.
Another "noobish" question if you can answer is that I backed up my rom before flashing the custom rom, yet in the clockwordmod folder in internal memory now there is nothing in it. Did the flashing erased my back up? So I cannot get my original FW, since I didn't back it up at my pc? I mean I had greek FW branded to a carrier, so if I need to send it to service, how am I supposed to get it back? To be honest I didn't see a such situation coming so I was unprepared. FYI I flashed [FXP210] XperiaPremiuM™ v4 from this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155343. Thanks for your help again!
psylos said:
Thanks for the reply. Indeed I managed to root, install CWM recovery and flashed my first rom at my XGO.
Another "noobish" question if you can answer is that I backed up my rom before flashing the custom rom, yet in the clockwordmod folder in internal memory now there is nothing in it. Did the flashing erased my back up? So I cannot get my original FW, since I didn't back it up at my pc? I mean I had greek FW branded to a carrier, so if I need to send it to service, how am I supposed to get it back? To be honest I didn't see a such situation coming so I was unprepared. FYI I flashed [FXP210] XperiaPremiuM™ v4 from this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155343. Thanks for your help again!
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if u unlocked ur bootloader than yes everything is erased. but u can find stock firwares in the dev section.
XperiaMT27 said:
if u unlocked ur bootloader than yes everything is erased. but u can find stock firwares in the dev section.
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No i didn't. I still have locked bootloader. that's why i flashed v4 rom for locked bootloader. Yet I may try v5, since it's compatible with LB as well. just i'll have to flash the boot.img through flashtool if I remember correctly from what I read in that thread.