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Official Viewsonic set the record straight about "Gtablet Support" or did they?
Was led to a video on youtube caught on ces 2011.
By the sound of the representive there, it seems as viewsonic will no longer support the Gtablet, but there own viewpad 10s tablet which they will sell and support. And as meantioned in the video the Gtablet will be supported and sold by US merchant.
Just thought I give an insight. So please feel free to disscussed further on this topic.
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This was posted on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UobzkW6iV28
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Viewsonic answers and sets the record straight!
Posted by officialviewsonic:
See what happens when I go to CES?!
Glad there's so much discussion about the G-Tablet. Let me try to help resolve some of the confusion...
We now have 4 full-sized tablets we've introduced.
G-Tablet you all know
ViewPad 7 - 7 inch Qualcom Processor running Froyo. 3G and voice ready (integrated SIM)
ViewPad 10 - 10 inch Dual Boot Win 7 / Android 1.6 (soon to be higher)
ViewPad 10S - Tegra II -based Froyo device
First, let me make one thing clear: ALL PRODUCTS HAVE FULL SUPPORT. The G-Tablet has a different support line mainly due to its more retail/end-user distribution. That line is managed by USMerchants, hence our sales rep's comments.
The G-Tablet is not going away. We have an OTA upgrade scheduled for later this week, and are looking at different OS loads on it (hint hint).
Google does not support Google Mobile Services or the Android App Store on any 10" tablet running Froyo. Adobe does not support Flash on any 10" Tegra II Tablet running Froyo.
While we originally were launching the 10S only in Europe and Russia, we are now considering bringing it to the Americas as well.
We have many more Tablets in different configurations and sizes in the works, so you'll continue to see great things from us.
Thank you all for your continued interest and support for our products. I'll keep you updated!
And while Viewsonic will only support the 10s it still will not have the marketplace installed....smh...hrmmmmmm
The device has always been purchased through US Merchants and supported through both entities (when all is said and done). Viewsonic mainly had a hands-off approach to the G all along. This marketing lady sums up what is going on. The G was a stepping stone for them and just to get a place in the market (with less than good results).
Not seeing how much has changed, but since this device has Viewsonic's name on it, they will have to support it. Too much bad press on top of the already bad press would be too much rick for them. Seems only difference is an HDMI port and probably higher price.
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And while Viewsonic will only support the 10s it still will not have the marketplace installed....smh...hrmmmmmm
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Yes and no meantion of flash. Since they stated on their site that it would be by late jan. Will pending certification from adobe that is.
Interesting. Looks identical device.
Your correct they do have that big logo on the rear of our Gtablets. lol So lets see what happens... hopefully they will honor the support and not push us to US merchant.
Yes the price could be higher only b/cus the rep laughed hoping it could be the same price as the Gtablet lol. Also no Tap n tap.
rushless said:
The device has always been purchased through US Merchants and supported through both entities (when all is said and done). Viewsonic mainly had a hands-off approach to the G all along. This marketing lady sums up what is going on. The G was a stepping stone for them and just to get a place in the market (with less than good results).
Not seeing how much has changed, but since this device has Viewsonic's name on it, they will have to support it. Too much bad press on top of the already bad press would be too much rick for them. Seems only difference is an HDMI port and probably higher price.
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sam96_77 said:
Interesting. Looks identical device.
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These are the specs they are showing us as of late:
Android 2.2 OS
10.1" Capacitive multi-touch
1024x600 Resolution
1GHz, 512MB ROM
512MB RAM
Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n
Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR (Optional 3G)
Webcam 1.3MP
G-sensor
USB, Micro SD (32GB Max), HDMI, headphone
XDA support
The G tablet will be sold by US Merchants, but the true support comes from XDA and the team of Devs who make this device what it is! This makes me think Gingerbread and Honeycomb will only be brought to the G tab if XDA makes it happen....
So true. I don't really think about Viewsonic anymore when I am using my gTablet. Like others have said, if the dev community here at xda had not stepped up to make these fantastic roms for this tablet I would have returned it to the store long ago.
Any piece of electronics I purchase I buy fully knowing that it will become outdated very quickly. So I will enjoy my gTablet for as long as the guys here at xda cook things up for it. When these guys move onto other great tablets I may purchase one of those at that time.
But until then, I have a great tablet running a great custom rom and I will continue to get great use out of it everyday.
Couldn't agree more.... Roebeet, Gojimi, Rothnic and all the others who have contributed here on XDA made the tablet fast and stable. I say as long as we have them. Im ok with that. I'll just theme them up lol.
This may seem like a dumb question, but do any of these guys have donate paypal accounts or something of that nature? They do all this work on these roms, with many people like myself reaping the benefits without really contributing. I would like to give something back other than my feedback when something works or doesnt work.
That being said, I do not regret my purchase of this device and I did it knowing that xda devs were on it. If viewsonic is smart, they would employ the devs here and keep this piece alive. It really is a good, solid device with good hardware.
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If the support issue turns out this way, it will be the second time I got screwed up by Viewsonic Support. And it will definitely be the last time.
What sort of support from Viewsonic have any of you been accustom to or dependent on for the g-tab?
Your support is right here on XDA.
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This may seem like a dumb question, but do any of these guys have donate paypal accounts or something of that nature? They do all this work on these roms, with many people like myself reaping the benefits without really contributing. I would like to give something back other than my feedback when something works or doesnt work.
That being said, I do not regret my purchase of this device and I did it knowing that xda devs were on it. If viewsonic is smart, they would employ the devs here and keep this piece alive. It really is a good, solid device with good hardware.
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If an developer accepts donation you can see the "Donate to me" button which can be seen in any of their postings above the Avatar (left hand side).
If it was not for Devs here mine would be back in store. In fact if I wanna know if the g-tablet will get updated to honeycomb I don't ask viewsonic rather I tweet bekit, reobeet and company. I have more faith on the guys here at xda then any other company that includes galaxy s carriers and manufacturers.
You guys rock
Agreement
As a newbie to Android I look at the xda site here everyday, sometimes twice just to see what amazing stuff these guys come up with for the gtablet......from a newbie to the guys developing stuff for the trablet that I love......thanks
IMHO... viewsonic adding the xda link to their site was the best think they've done as for the gtablet. Especially for those unaware that we have a dev team enhancing our tablets to a point where we can say wow.
I can't express enough how excited I am about how the devs modified our tablets to work as it should of out of the box.
I for one and I know many will agree that we are NOW happy with our gtablets.
Thanks dev team!
Viewsonic are probably quietly hoping that the devs will fix their 10s when that comes out too!
I'm not too worried about it. All we need is a dump of whatever firmware they end up with on the 10s, and it might be fairly easy to port over. One good thing about the Tegra is APX mode - allows us to take more risks.
Gojimi is working on his Gingerbread rig, Bekit on dealing with cm7, Pershoot and the kernel devs are amazing us with their customized kernels and Rothnic is popping out updates to his mods all the time. Things are alive and well, here.
Heck, we might have an Eve port one day. :O
S2W said:
IMHO... viewsonic adding the xda link to their site was the best think they've done as for the gtablet. Especially for those unaware that we have a dev team enhancing our tablets to a point where we can say wow.
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On the other hand they will not hesitate to void the warranty of any tablet that has XDA stuff on it.
This is probably a dumb question in the wrong section but are there any reasons outside of something like a locked boot-loader that Android couldn't be compiled to run on the HP touchpad tablet?
I was just wondering the same thing. The CPU is a SnapDragon so the hardware at least has the potential to work...
I would imagine that it would be quite difficult because you would need to build your own kernel and custom version of android.
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monkeychef said:
I would imagine that it would be quite difficult because you would need to build your own kernel and custom version of android.
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Im not a Developer or anything but I would Assume that we Can wait for a Honeycomb Tablet to come out with Similar specs (I.E Same Processor and Ram) and port a Version of that to the TouchPad. It should work if Running HC 3.2 since it supports different Screen sizes too. I would assume only minor tweaking would be needed. But thats just me Guessing.
Sorry but I was thinking the opposite. I would kill to get WebOS running on my new Moto Photon!
ouchpad
+1 for android on HP ouchpad
http://cnnmoney.mobi/wk_snarticle?a...110818:hp_pc_spinoff:1&category=cnnm_business
especially now since ouchpad is dead
I think this is going to become a much more important question, now that HP is getting out of the consumer hardware business and WebOS is going to become unsupported very soon. I think a dual-core snapdragon would be more that enough to run 2.3, and the aspect ratio (4:3) makes it a lot more attractive to me than the existing 16:10 stable of Honeycomb tablets.
If the source code for Ice Cream Sandwich is released to the public, hopefully this can happen. For now though I hope someone will be interested enough to pick up a cut-rate Touchpad (prices are likely to plummet now that Retailers will be dying to offload them) and attempt to get CM7 on it.
mrkkk said:
http://cnnmoney.mobi/wk_snarticle?a...110818:hp_pc_spinoff:1&category=cnnm_business
especially now since ouchpad is dead
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due to LTE:
Samsung Galaxy S II Hercules
Samsung SHV-E120S Galaxy S II LTE
use the modem-less AP8060 that the touchpad uses. they would be the target candidates to port to touchpad. could maybe do boot ->boot like IOS jailbreak where you strap webos to boot android.
Since AP8060 is SOC (all in one) - good chance of this working.
I would put up some cash to see this happen... really would... WebOS is nice.. the Hardware is nice.. but AS IT IS... is as it will be and it just doesnt have enough in it for me to enjoy it. Not enough quality apps.. and what happens when things need updates to make them work properly. call whom ever you want ... no one is there to pick up the phone they have all be WFR by hp lol
I really hope someone can get Android on those Touchpads. The big box retailers are dumping them right now. 16GB for $99.99 and 32GB for $149.99.
i know its not related but since its being sold for 99$im thinking of buying it the only question is that does it run divx movies without converting
id donate $20 towards this
The 16gb in Canada is going for $99....well worth it if a port was possible or in the near future!!!
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/19/let-the-liquidation-begin-hps-16gb-touchpad-on-sale-for-99/
It was possible with the HD2, with a little effort, Android will become possible!
someone please port android to this device!
What is the over-under on this getting Android? Is it worth a poor man's money?
I'm veerrryyyy interested too! This would be awesome.
mdneilson said:
What is the over-under on this getting Android? Is it worth a poor man's money?
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I say its worth the 100....
failurbydesign said:
I say its worth the 100....
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I would want something with Android... that is my main concern. So, you think that it will get a port?
What's up guys a lil off topic from the photon who owns a tablet? Can anyone recommend a tablet for about $200 thanks
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Personally id try to get an htc flyer with a scribe, but that might be a little out of your price range.
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edward.hidalgo said:
What's up guys a lil off topic from the photon who owns a tablet? Can anyone recommend a tablet for about $200 thanks
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I have the Asus Transformer but it is more than $200. That is not much for a tablet but might check out the new Kindle Fire. Runs Android and looks like it has a lot of potential. Retails for $200.
I've actually heard some pretty decent reviews on the Kindle. But I haven't personally played with one yet. I know Coby has some, but they are kinda meh, you get what you pay for, ya know?
xTMFxOffshore said:
I've actually heard some pretty decent reviews on the Kindle. But I haven't personally played with one yet. I know Coby has some, but they are kinda meh, you get what you pay for, ya know?
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That's true thanks for responses I'm going to keep looking I like that flyer for $299 is not bad at all
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Samsung has the Galaxy Tab 7.0" for $300 with the Android 2.3.3 and I think Coby has a 10" with Android 2.3.3 as well for $300. But from what I saw, you're gonna be spending more to get the Tablet that comes with Honeycomb all ready installed. Like $400 and up.
I just bought 32 Archos 80 G9s for a research study. I am very happy with them, but they are a little above your price point. They are not iPad quality, obviously, but they are the best bang for the buck - in my opinion.
Here is some information:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/12/archos-80-g9-review/
http://store.archos.com/archos-p-5016.html
my2cents said:
I just bought 32 Archos 80 G9s for a research study. I am very happy with them, but they are a little above your price point. They are not iPad quality, obviously, but they are the best bang for the buck - in my opinion.
Here is some information:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/12/archos-80-g9-review/
http://store.archos.com/archos-p-5016.html
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Do they come with an HDMI out? I hadn't heard about these but I may be looking into them now. Thanks for the heads up.
my2cents said:
I just bought 32 Archos 80 G9s for a research study. I am very happy with them, but they are a little above your price point. They are not iPad quality, obviously, but they are the best bang for the buck - in my opinion.
Here is some information:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/12/archos-80-g9-review/
http://store.archos.com/archos-p-5016.html
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Not bad at all based on the engadget
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xTMFxOffshore said:
Do they come with an HDMI out? I hadn't heard about these but I may be looking into them now. Thanks for the heads up.
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It does have an mini hdmi out. Here are the full specs:
http://store.archos.com/archos-p-5016.html
They also have a 10.1 inch for $369. You can also up the internal memory for a few dollars more, but it has an SDcard slot, so I figure I can just by a large flash memory card if I need more storage.
By the way, their office is in Colorado, they speak perfect English, and their customer service was great! They also gave me a very good deal on the 32 devices that I bought. I'm a happy camper.
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Do they come with an HDMI out? I hadn't heard about these but I may be looking into them now. Thanks for the heads up.
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I think it just said it comes with USB port not sure
Nvmd it does have a HDMI port
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edward.hidalgo said:
I think it just said it comes with USB port not sure
Nvmd it does have a HDMI port
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Yeah it does. About the only thing that it does not have is a rear facing camera. Other than that, I think the specs are about as good as they get (at this point in time).
Any thought on this tablet
m.sears.com/productdetails.do?partNumber=SPM5929370402
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Here is another thorough review of the Archos G9: http://www.slashgear.com/archos-80-g9-review-video-25182615/
This is the review that made me buy 32 sight unseen.
my2cents said:
Here is another thorough review of the Archos G9: http://www.slashgear.com/archos-80-g9-review-video-25182615/
This is the review that made me buy 32 sight unseen.
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Based on that review can't wait to get home check it out on Amazon
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Awesome. I may have to take a look further into it. Do they have a lapdock type deal?
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Do they have a lapdock type deal?
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Not that I am aware of. They have a cardock for some of the older versions, so they might have that for the g9 in the future, but I dont know about a future lapdock or sorts.
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edward.hidalgo said:
Based on that review can't wait to get home check it out on Amazon
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Here is the link: http://www.amazon.com/Archos-80-501...D31W/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1318561051&sr=8-4
I got mine bulk price for about $230. This is probably the best deal on a single unit.
Kcarpenter said:
Personally id try to get an htc flyer with a scribe, but that might be a little out of your price range.
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I LOVE MY FLYER! best tab out in my opinion. The Kindle Fire has too many "Amazon only" restrictions, making it just like the iPad...
Pew! Pew! Pew! From my Mo-Pho!
http://android-gz.com
Remember, though... no tablet smaller than ~10" runs Real Honeycomb -- officially, unofficially, or otherwise. Google has never released the source, and has stated that they never will. I'm sure it'll get leaked eventually and/or ICS will make its way to "substandard" tablets sold without Honeycomb... but you'll probably be stuck waiting AT LEAST six months for that to even be a possibility.
If you're buying it to use as a tablet, that might not matter. If you're buying it to develop and test tablet-oriented apps on a real device, it's probably a deal-breaker (plenty of stuff that runs perfectly well under Froyo or Gingerbread on a low end tablet breaks catastrophically on a real Honeycomb tablet).
One other note -- if cases (especially layered or bumper-type cases a-la Otterbox) are important to you, find a case you like BEFORE you commit to buying a tablet. Some tablets, like the Toshiba Thrive, are awesomely appealing, but don't have a single bumper/otterbox-type case available, and none on the radar either.
As MoPho owners, there's an obvious family appeal of the Xoom... but be warned, it has the exact same "black crush" problem that the Photon does (in fact, that was what originally tipped me off that the Photon's black crush problem is almost certainly the result of a bad 24-bit to 16-bit quantization error from an incorrect gamma curve somewhere along the pipeline, and NOT a problem with the screen itself).
Also, if you use Graffiti, be aware that the Xoom's Graffiti support sucks. As far as I can tell, the Xoom is a lot more aggressive about slowing down the CPU than the Photon is, and (like HTC) blindly assumes that a soft input area is used for slow, purposeful taps instead of high-precision motion tracking. Let me put it this way... on my ancient 711MHz-overclocked Hero w/CM7 and scaling disabled so it runs in "Performance" mode, Graffiti is butter smooth and effortlessly accurate. On my Photon, it's decent (say, 99.5% accurate). On my Xoom, it's borderline unusable -- maybe 97% accuracy under the best conditions, and with visible lag (the underlaid outline tracing my finger path lags the finger itself by about 300ms and ~1cm).
Know that most tablets won't charge from USB, but some will "limp" and draw power from usb when available (ie, they won't charge the battery, but they won't really drain it further when connected via USB).
Take it with a pound of salt, but I've heard the Thrive's glass is more vulnerable to breakage than other tablets. On the other hand, the Thrive has a nice, wide, thumb-friendly bezel to grab. The Xoom's bezel is about a half centimeter narrower than I'd really consider to be ideal.
If you can wait 5 weeks, I can almost guarantee you'll be able to get a real Honeycomb tablet from SOMEWHERE for $249 or less on Adam Smith Day (the day after Thanksgiving, when Americans gather in our cathedrals of commerce and celebrate capitalism by spending money like there's no tomorrow...)
The Acer Iconia A 100 does run an official version of Honeycomb and it's a 7 inch tablet.
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I have a HP Touchpad 4G in-hand and was wondering if there any devs out there who could use the codes from this rare version to make existing HP Touchpads any better?
This toucH pad is 4G made for ATT and also comes stock Dual 1.5 GHZ. Software on box says 3.0.1. I have not opened it yet.
Ok. Is it stock android? Or webOS?. Get whole of me in pm and we can talk later tonight. I will contact Myn and virus about it.
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Ok. Is it stock android? Or webOS?. Get whole of me in pm and we can talk later tonight. I will contact Myn and virus about it.
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Would have been awesome if it was android. I was told that HP Touch pad II was in dev but was just dropped this week which WAS going to be ANdroid. It was going to be a much thinner version like iPad2.
The version i have is the WebOS version. I contact you PM when I get out of work.
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Would have been awesome if it was android. I was told that HP Touch pad II was in dev but was just dropped this week which WAS going to be ANdroid. It was going to be a much thinner version like iPad2.
The version i have is the WebOS version. I contact you PM when I get out of work.
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This makes no sense
Why would HP ever make an Android device and pay royalties to Microsoft when they own a perfectly ok OS themselves
and it's not like Android's lighting the tablet world on fire
hydrogenman said:
This makes no sense
Why would HP ever make an Android device and pay royalties to Microsoft when they own a perfectly ok OS themselves
and it's not like Android's lighting the tablet world on fire
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This may make no sense to you but the prototype was just tested and dropped project.
WebOS is a perfectly ****ty OS imo. My friend in R&D told me about the KNOWN memory leak in the webOS browser and causes system instability and the scroll issue. Also how the kernel for the Touchpad does not function properly with Dual-cores but was still released.....
There are MANY bugs with this product. There is also a 7" version of the HP Touchpad I have here that was never released.
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This may make no sense to you but the prototype was just tested and dropped project.
WebOS is a perfectly ****ty OS imo. My friend in R&D told me about the KNOWN memory leak in the webOS browser and causes system instability and the scroll issue. Also how the kernel for the Touchpad does not function properly with Dual-cores but was still released.....
There are MANY bugs with this product. There is also a 7" version of the HP Touchpad I have here that was never released.
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The only thing we need is actual drivers to support the touchpad for android. That's it.
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hydrogenman said:
This makes no sense
Why would HP ever make an Android device and pay royalties to Microsoft when they own a perfectly ok OS themselves
and it's not like Android's lighting the tablet world on fire
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Leoisright said:
The only thing we need is actual drivers to support the touchpad for android. That's it.
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Let me ask my friend if he can leak me the drivers if he can get his hands on them.... since the project was officially shut down this week with the HP TouchPad II, maybe he can legally get me them.
Ohh, is it possible to get pictures of the 7 in model? Hopefully on and showing the OS
the touchpad go....
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Let me ask my friend if he can leak me the drivers if he can get his hands on them.... since the project was officially shut down this week with the HP TouchPad II, maybe he can legally get me them.
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Ohh, is it possible to get pictures of the 7 in model? Hopefully on and showing the OS
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Not on, though I wouldn't imagine webOS would look any different than the regular Touchpad.
http://techcrunch.com/2011/09/19/hp...d-heres-what-a-dead-7-inch-tablet-looks-like/
Completely useless info but R&D dept at HP is missing two Touchpad II tablets recently with Android build on them.... They were prototypes. Project recently canned.
Why would they consider anandroid tablet? Simple,webos was a complete and total failure they wasted over a billion dollars on. I'm not making a statement about the quality of the software. I'm personally less than impressed with it but that's not the point. Lets just assume its the most amazing OS ever made and makes both iOS and Android look like a Commodore Vic 20 in comparison. Honestly,its all opinion. Lets stick to facts. Best Buy ordered hundreds of thousands. They sold around 20,000 before the firesale. The facts are no one bought them and no one developed for them. With no apps,no userbase and a warehouse full of product,it was looking pretty grim. Maybe they could have made a go of it but more likely it wouldn't have been life support for a few years and then finally put out of its misery.
If HP still wants to be in the tablet market,Android would not be a bad way to go. In fact,dropping webos and releasing android for the touchpad would not have been too bad of idea rather than the firesale.
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Why would they consider anandroid tablet? Simple,webos was a complete and total failure they wasted over a billion dollars on. I'm not making a statement about the quality of the software. I'm personally less than impressed with it but that's not the point. Lets just assume its the most amazing OS ever made and makes both iOS and Android look like a Commodore Vic 20 in comparison. Honestly,its all opinion. Lets stick to facts. Best Buy ordered hundreds of thousands. They sold around 20,000 before the firesale. The facts are no one bought them and no one developed for them. With no apps,no userbase and a warehouse full of product,it was looking pretty grim. Maybe they could have made a go of it but more likely it wouldn't have been life support for a few years and then finally put out of its misery.
If HP still wants to be in the tablet market,Android would not be a bad way to go. In fact,dropping webos and releasing android for the touchpad would not have been too bad of idea rather than the firesale.
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Well they didn't, now they do have a large user base, a large development community, and none sitting in a warehouse, all thanks to the firesale.
jeffokada81 said:
I have a HP Touchpad 4G in-hand and was wondering if there any devs out there who could use the codes from this rare version to make existing HP Touchpads any better?
This toucH pad is 4G made for ATT and also comes stock Dual 1.5 GHZ. Software on box says 3.0.1. I have not opened it yet.
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Hope you are aware that Moboot 0.3.4 is out, which support 4G - http://code.google.com/p/moboot/downloads/list
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If HP still wants to be in the tablet market,Android would not be a bad way to go. In fact,dropping webos and releasing android for the touchpad would not have been too bad of idea rather than the firesale.
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Windows 8 is where their tablet is heading...
dajogejr said:
Windows 8 is where their tablet is heading...
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Actually, I just had r&d guy in HP tell me Window is where they are going with their new tablets.
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Hope you are aware that Moboot 0.3.4 is out, which support 4G - http://code.google.com/p/moboot/downloads/list
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Does this add 4G to ANY HP tablet? I wish I knew coding.....
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Does this add 4G to ANY HP tablet? I wish I knew coding.....
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no you can't do that.
You have to replace the entire motherboard of the touchpad..
ie The hardware is not present on the wifi tablets.
Gosh I hate threads like these, people talking out of their ass, people always know people and always have inside knowledge.
I keep hearing that this is not a bargain like the $199 Nexus 7 or $309 Nexus 4 but it really is.
First, you are getting the highest resolution mobile screen EVER. Second, the dual core A15 is the first of its kind if you don't include the chromebook and will not be used in most mobile devices until mid 2013 at least. Third, they managed to make it only 8.9mm thin, something that Apple couldn't do for the new ipad's. Four, it is one of the only 3 devices running Android 4.2. All that for $399.
It is a steal and in some ways even more of a bargain than the other two.
Ignore this post if you are aware, this is for the people that can't see why this is any different than all the other 10 inch Android tablets.
Sounds good but if no optimized apps for tablets I will wait on the fence still and see what happens if apps look the same on n10 as they do on my note 2 then what's the point.
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sabre31 said:
Sounds good but if no optimized apps for tablets I will wait on the fence still and see what happens if apps look the same on n10 as they do on my note 2 then what's the point.
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I have both devices. They are a good combination. But every app on Nexus 10 looks better.
For some reason I find myself on my dad's iPad 4 rather than my Nexus 10. Apple is def doing something right.
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I have the n7 and the n 10 ipad2 and just sold my galaxy tab 7.7.
Not all apps look better on the N 10. For example the Engadget app does not scale, yet.
Out of all the tablets i have owned the n7 is the best. However I am getting the note 2 on Monday and I suspect it will be my go to device, then the n 10, and finally my laptop.
Another couple of years and they will have finally have a tablet that can be used for work and play, not there yet.
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sabre31 said:
Sounds good but if no optimized apps for tablets I will wait on the fence still and see what happens if apps look the same on n10 as they do on my note 2 then what's the point.
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The point is that the Nexus 10 does web browsing, the main use of a tablet for most, bigger and sharper and has the horse power to push it extremely smoothly.
No one says I have a cell phone, what is the point of a 55 inch TV, my apps look the same on it. Why would anyone say that here?
10 inch is the sweet spot like Steve Jobs said in my opinion. Laptop is too clunky and the Nexus 7 and Note are too small. That is my opinion.
To me, an android phone is the best (love my S3 to death). But for a tablet, iOS is the best. I decided to return my nexus 10 since Im not patient enough. I got frustrated with apps on the nexus 10. Apps do not look good and run well on the nexus for now (this will be fixed, of course). But apps for ipad are also much better. ALso never think more pixels are better. WHat matters is its contrast and color accuracy. More pixels only drain the battery.
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sabre31 said:
Sounds good but if no optimized apps for tablets I will wait on the fence still and see what happens if apps look the same on n10 as they do on my note 2 then what's the point.
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actually apps will look different on the nexus. specificly, they look worse since they haven't been optimized for high resolution screen .. yet
These arguments are pretty pointless. The notion that there must be a one great almighty device that trumps all seems silly to me. They're both great, just buy which one fits your needs. Its a tablet you use to watch YouTube, its not a big deal.
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There is no denying that the iPad 4 is the best all-around tablet out there - build quality, performance, smoothness, tablications, battery life, everything is cool. I'm buying the Nexus 10 however because:
- better bang for the buck, the $100 it's cheaper can be use for the surely coming keyboard dock
- 16:10 - if you're not watching video content why even go for 10", the AR is a nice compromise between 16:9 and 4:3
- Adobe Flash - be honest, you'll miss live streaming and all the flash-based content, and it's not going away anytime soon, N10 runs it well
- extras: higher res screen, NFC, USB-OTG possibilities (media play without root), front-facing quality speakers, lighter weight
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- 16:10 - if you're not watching video content why even go for 10", the AR is a nice compromise between 16:9 and 4:3
- Adobe Flash - be honest, you'll miss live streaming and all the flash-based content, and it's not going away anytime soon, N10 runs it well
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I don't agree with these two points. I bought a 10 inch tablet mainly for Web browsing. My note 2's size is just fine for videos but not for heavy web browsing.
And the Nexus 10 doesn't support Flash natively, you need to sideload the apk and download a third party browser. On the ipad there are pretty decent Flash-supporting browsers so it's a tie in this area.
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CreepyDroid said:
And the Nexus 10 doesn't support Flash natively, you need to sideload the apk and download a third party browser. On the ipad there are pretty decent Flash-supporting browsers so it's a tie in this area.
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Flash is a dying/dead platform on Android, so no big loss there IMHO. And the sooner it's gone completely, the better it is - Flash had its place but today it's just a bloated and very dangerous piece of crap software.
Of course you would make a thread like this lol. The moderators must be getting tired of closing these things...
Who gives a flying frack what the app "looks" like!! Does it do what it is supposed to do? Does it do it fast? Do movies look better than just about anything else out there? Is the sound great compared to most tablets? Is the resolution higher than ANY tablet out there?
Personally I am about getting **** done with a tablet, you can have your pretty apps, because I already got my **** done, and ran 17 more apps while you are "oooh'ing and ahh'ing" over how pretty your apps are...
Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are purely my own, don't expect you to or even care if you agree, move along :good:
CreepyDroid said:
I don't agree with these two points. I bought a 10 inch tablet mainly for Web browsing. My note 2's size is just fine for videos but not for heavy web browsing.
And the Nexus 10 doesn't support Flash natively, you need to sideload the apk and download a third party browser. On the ipad there are pretty decent Flash-supporting browsers so it's a tie in this area.
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you don't have to agree. personal opinions are just that. personal opinions. sideloading or not, i'm not quite sure of the difference. apps are apps. we all use them. so whether or not you have to install an app to get something to work the way we want it doesn't really take anything away from the devices we choose. some cars have ugly rims on them when we buy them from the dealer. we buy and put custom wheels on them. your "point" is moot at this point. but an ipad or buy a nexus 10. who cares.
Nexus 10 is so big it doesn't matter how thick it is within reason. Actually, I would've preferred they gave it a bigger battery for longer life unplugged.
Valynor said:
Flash is a dying/dead platform on Android, so no big loss there IMHO. And the sooner it's gone completely, the better it is - Flash had its place but today it's just a bloated and very dangerous piece of crap software.
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Yes Nexus10 is awesome, but I'm a little bit desapointed by Android 4.2 regarding "no flash player" I know the reasons but currently I cannot benefit from web TVs I planned to watch with my new tablet (Orange TV, Canal+, Pluzz...).
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CreepyDroid said:
I don't agree with these two points. I bought a 10 inch tablet mainly for Web browsing. My note 2's size is just fine for videos but not for heavy web browsing.
And the Nexus 10 doesn't support Flash natively, you need to sideload the apk and download a third party browser. On the ipad there are pretty decent Flash-supporting browsers so it's a tie in this area.
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I agree CreepyDroid. I tried to sideload the apk and to use other browsers without success. I would apreciate to read a good step by step link
Thank in advance.
Tomatoes8 said:
I keep hearing that this is not a bargain like the $199 Nexus 7 or $309 Nexus 4 but it really is.
First, you are getting the highest resolution mobile screen EVER. Second, the dual core A15 is the first of its kind if you don't include the chromebook and will not be used in most mobile devices until mid 2013 at least. Third, they managed to make it only 8.9mm thin, something that Apple couldn't do for the new ipad's. Four, it is one of the only 3 devices running Android 4.2. All that for $399.
It is a steal and in some ways even more of a bargain than the other two.
Ignore this post if you are aware, this is for the people that can't see why this is any different than all the other 10 inch Android tablets.
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i am really disappointed from google now! say what ever any body wants to say against me, i dont care cause reality aint gonna change!
i am a Samsung Boy... everything i own is from samsung (electronics ofcourse)
in my point of view, Google is a Huge company, Bigger than Apple. google can produce tablet oriented apps! YES IT CAN! i dont really dont find not more than like 10 apps that are ESPECIALLY made for my tablets! i owned Nexus 7, sold that cause of lag in browser, Now i own NOTE 10.1!
an Excellent Tablet! but No Apps!
when i was in search of good tab i had to choose between iPad 3 and Note 10.1 and i went for Note 10.1 cause i love Google but i AGAIN got disappointed! not from the tablet, but the SOFTWARE SUPPORT AND APP AVAILABILITY!
i am thinking of getting Nexus 10 but i am keeping my self away from the idea of getting it cause of app support!
mark my words, THERE WILL BE NO APPS FOR NEXUS 10 AT LEAST NOT FOR THE NEXT 3 TO 4 MONTHS!
Apple is only better in APP support and software support than google! GOOGLE DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT! WHEN U CAN ACTIVATE MILLIONS OF DEVICES EVERY DAY WHY NOT THE ABILITY TO SUPPORT THEM! DONT TELL ME ITS DIFFICULT FOR GOOGLE! ITS A BILLIONS OF $$ COMPANY!! AND HECK IT HAS SUPPORT OF MONSTER COMPANIES LIKE SAMSUNG, LG, HTC AND OTHERS.....!!!
google is destroying its image in minds of customers like me, who change their gadgets very frequently!
accept it or not dude! u can not deny the reality! SMARTPHONES IS ANDROID THING NOW, TABLETS ARE APPLE THING NOW... and only for the fact of no app and software support!
Valynor said:
Flash is a dying/dead platform on Android, so no big loss there IMHO. And the sooner it's gone completely, the better it is - Flash had its place but today it's just a bloated and very dangerous piece of crap software.
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On the INTERNET, Flash is by far the most popular video format... and until HTML5 has agreed on a format that Chrome Firefox IE Safari Opera etc can agree on, flash video is still the choice for many web designers. If you are interested in seeing that content, you can either get flash a capable browser, or not see the video... crap or not.