Removing the Screen Protector: Negatives and Positives - Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go

Ok I have removed my screen protector that was pre-installed on the Xperia S and it has seemed to go okay for me. I wanted to write a little guide to inform others incase they have been thinking of doing it.
Pros:
Capacitive buttons are much more responsive. I usually get them every time now.
No more little edge at the top of the clear section. I hated how there was a sharp edge caused by the screen protector when I went to swipe the buttons. No problem with it now.
Screen is more responsive to touch.
The phone looks better. No dust gets in the screen protector edges and the screen looks a little clearer.
Cons:
The screen is not as protected against scratches or falls.
The screen gets VERY dirty quickly. Be prepared to rub it off all the time as fingerprints seem to slime up the screen quickly. I guess they didn't use an oleophobic coating to reduce the dirt and grime. It's not a deal breaker, but it sure as hell is annoying.
The proximity sensor is much easier to trigger, so when you are using it and it goes over the sensor it will quickly turn off the screen.
There is a slight gummy sensation left over by the screen protector residue. It will dissipate after some time but it can be really annoying. Use some alcohol and a coarse rag to get it off sooner.
I prefer the feel of the screen protector to the screen itself. The screen seems to not be as smooth but maybe there is still some residue left over.
Sidenote:
I have dropped the phone from 3 feet onto industrial thin carpet and it is still okay even without the shatter proof sheet. Remember that almost every phone will have problems if you drop it onto a hard surface and it lands on the edges.
The screen material seems to be very resistant to scratches. I have a defective unit that is being returned so I decided to do a couple tests on it before sending it back in. I used a key to scratch the screen in the corner. First I tried a light scratch and then I tried a medium pressure scratch. Neither of these showed a mark. Even a pretty heavy pressure did not leave a mark. I am pretty satisfied with the results though I imagine if you used a sharp edge and a lot of pressure it would scratch it. Better than I had thought though, Gorilla glass is overrated anyways.
Let me know if you have more questions.
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To remove the screen protector, just use fingernails and pry it up near the bottom, top of the clear bar. Once you get a piece peeled up, grab it firmly and pull the rest off. If it is still really hard heat the screen with a hairdryer for a second or two and it will loosen the glue.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26467442&postcount=64
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I took mine off with no regrets, the sticky does wear off.

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26467442&postcount=64
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I don't believe that post to be correct, Sony support site has stated you can remove it and be just fine. You just won't have that extra layer of protection. I have dropped mine without the shatter proof sheet and it is fine. I'd like to see some proof about how much security the "shatter proof" sheet will add. Even after reading that post, I feel that the shatter proof sheet is just an added piece of marketing so that people will not complain as much by the lack of gorilla glass. Sony would have put Gorilla Glass in the phone if they thought it was necessary and made the warranty void if you removed the sheet, but they did neither.
The shatter proof sheet makes the screen feel terrible. I will never use mine. I never had a screen protector on my HTC Hero and I never had a problem.
The most optimal thing to do is remove the shatter proof sheet and add a screen protector to help deal with the oils and dirt from your hands.
If you worry that much about shattering your screen then get a SquareTrade warranty.

Maybe you are right but I don't think they put this sheet just for decoration,i remember they did also for the X10 and I remove it in this time but the screen get less responsive.It's some kind of protection against scratching.
I will never remove it,that's only my opinion.
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gm007 said:
Maybe you are right but I don't think they put this sheet just for decoration,i remember they did also for the X10 and I remove it in this time but the screen get less responsive.It's some kind of protection against scratching.
I will never remove it,that's only my opinion.
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The shatter proof sheet scratches easier than the mineral glass. Like I listed above, I tested scratches the raw screen with keys at different pressures and I got nothing. Mineral glass is damn hard and Sony is supposed to use a special type.
It's your call though, I am just trying to add some info for others.
Also there is no reason for removing the sheet to make it less responsive since you are actually removing another layer which is getting between your actions and the digitizer, it doesn't work that way.

I don't know why the screen get less responsive,maybe the glue can't be removed easily.
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gm007 said:
I don't know why the screen get less responsive,maybe the glue can't be removed easily.
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That could be it, I hated the feel first off. Used some goo gone and alcohol and it cleaned it right up. The thing that makes mine feel worse after removing it is the oils and dirt stick like mad to the raw screen. Im gonna put a really thin one on just to protect from that, but I am glad I removed that terribly think one.

I agree that the most annoying thing if you dont use screen protector is fingerprint/oil smudge

I took it off aswell and hated the feel of the pure glass... Just too sticky and the fingerprints nearly made me crazy so i put on a normal 1
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i notice that without that screen protector you will have unresponsive touch when charging from usb or wall or even with headphone plugged in.... i just ordered a zagg invisible ^_^

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I guess they didn't use an oleophobic coating to reduce the dirt and grime. It's not a deal breaker, but it sure as hell is annoying.
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Cant be used with a screen protector. On phones that do have the oleophobic coating, putting on a screen protector makes it useless because as soon as you remove the protector the coating would also be removed with it.
It's just that a phone shouldnt have a factory applied protector it's ridiculous. I myself never use a screen protector and probably will never.

This post might sound funny but for quite a few days, I actually had a Matte screen protector over the screen protector preinstalled by Sony. I actually had no idea it was even there until I found a post on XDA about the same and then checked the earpiece region and then, *facepalm*
A few notes from that, the screen was still responsive and I actually liked it better than the Arc S one. The capacitive buttons weren't responding as well and I didn't like it initially but once the useless matte protector was off, everything was as smooth as butter. I personally like to have an additional layer of protection just as a safeguard. Gives me more sense of security (even though there isn't much).

drigerott said:
i notice that without that screen protector you will have unresponsive touch when charging from usb or wall or even with headphone plugged in.... i just ordered a zagg invisible ^_^
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I have never had that problem with mine removed. Why that would happen does not make any sense anyways.

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I have never had that problem with mine removed. Why that would happen does not make any sense anyways.
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just search unresponsive screen on xda you will find hundred treadh about this problem

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just search unresponsive screen on xda you will find hundred treadh about this problem
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What I meant was why would removing the laminate sheet make the buttons less responsive. Mine are MUCH more responsive without it and I have forgotten about the complaints leveled against the capacitive buttons because of it.

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What I meant was why would removing the laminate sheet make the buttons less responsive. Mine are MUCH more responsive without it and I have forgotten about the complaints leveled against the capacitive buttons because of it.
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He is speaking about the screen not the buttons
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The shatter proof sheet scratches easier than the mineral glass
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Lol that's why Sony bundles a screen protector, to protect the shatter proof sheet from scratching.
Your SUPPOSED to have two layers, the lower layer protects from shattering and the upper layer with the screen protector of your choice protects from scratching.
All this talk of you telling people to take off something using goo gone on a brand new phone is ludicrous. Just install the screen protector provided over the laminate sheet as soon as you take it out of the box as Sony designed it and be done with it.

I'm reading all this and was kinda kept by surprise for hearing for the first time about this sheet, since I can't find it on my XS. Is it possible that my unit came without this shatter-protection-layer-sheet-thingy?

Look closer to the edges
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Screen Protector Or Not

I think I should change the thread around. If your X10 has absolute no screen protector on (meaning that you removed the stock one), do you have any scratches on your phone?
The reason is theres all these scratch tests on youtube which proves glass screens to be pretty scratch resistive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9PpMBLEX_A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh2g7AIHdc8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-oBMrB3Ryw
So according to these tests, I don't see how I would scratch my screen other than dropping it. But if I really dropped it, I doubt a screen protector would do any good.
I took mine off a month ago and simply never got around to replacing it, not even a mark on it since, I prefer it off.
My experience with silicon covers and others is that they end up damaging the more than they protect it, dust gets caught under them and acts like sandpaper.
I am a bit of a phone junkie who rarely keeps a phone for more than a year,
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I have two on, and after a few incidents I'm so glad I do. Some one said this before, "the screen is scratch resistant, not scratch proof", so remove it at your own peril.
None?
You will regret this decision one day.
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its like condoms eheheh same have two some have one and some like the risk
Using a plastic film over the glass panel is like putting a hideous gown on a Ferrari. I used my Galaxy S without any protection for a month, and it was fine. Just don't let harsh objects or sand rub agqinst the screen.
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I had a silicon body protector and a cheap screen protector on my X10, then I finally bought an InvisibleShield (full body) and love it.
In my case though, the silicon protector I had was constantly pressing the camera button, which would disable my face buttons, making me think my phone was suffering a bunch of random glitches. Put up with that for a couple of weeks before I discovered others online having the same issue due to their own covers.
I work outdoors and tend to be pretty hard on my phones, so I don't think I'd ever be brave enough to let my X10 run around "nude".
Hands down hell yes!! I take very good care with all my phones and I think screen protectors are a must especially for smartphones. I don't think I can stand having my phone scratched even just a tiny bit lol. I'm not a big fan of cases though cuz...I think people should just avoid dropping them in the first place, but there's always a worse comes to worse scenario huh? anyway, I was playing with my friends iPhone today and it had an anti-glare matte screen protector that is absolutely amazing. It has a nice texture to it too that makes your swiping and scrolling a more... pleasurable experience. I believe there's one for the X10 as well, I'm gonna go check that out =)
I too, use double protectors. And, the lint free fiber cloth to clean the screen. I am a clean freak, per say.
Its a must for me, sometimes I forget and put it in the same pocket with my keys, just imagine the scratches out could get.
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If they used a hard glass you should only get hairline scratches at worst, which for some is ok to live with. Though you will definitely still get scratches on it, unless they used sapphire crystal like on expensive watches which is practically only scratchable by diamond
Well, I took off the pre-applied protector (not the obvious one showing you how to unlock your phone) about 3months ago and I haven't had any problems with scratches. I even proved a point to my brother by trying to scratch the screen with a coin. Still no scratches. Obviously, if you manage to damage your screen with a coin, it is not my fault!
Don't go without a screen protector. My screen is mashed now.
I'm just saying...
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Well, I took off the pre-applied protector (not the obvious one showing you how to unlock your phone) about 3months ago and I haven't had any problems with scratches. I even proved a point to my brother by trying to scratch the screen with a coin. Still no scratches. Obviously, if you manage to damage your screen with a coin, it is not my fault!
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I highly doubt that taking a coin to the X10 glass wouldn't do any damage.
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I highly doubt that taking a coin to the X10 glass wouldn't do any damage.
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Might have been a chocolate coin.
i guess the protectors will help with the finger print magnet issue?
I accidently removed the pre-installed screen protector after trying to add another cheap screen protector over the top. but sharpishly replaced it the following day with a Martin fields screen protector best £10 i spent and actually feels nicer than the screen itself to scroll with and leaves less marks. i couldn't go without one risking scratching the screen. thats some expensive kit to just scratch and ruin.
what do guys do when you buy something like a car? Do you all have plastic on your new couch, do you put screen protectors on your watches etc,etc
My bold and dream are nude and have no serious scratches?
It is only a 65000 color so i guess the more screen shields the less chance you will notice all that cr*ppy banding.
I straps pillow on my car. It wasnt long that i remove it cos ppl tells me its seven years old.
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I have removed the preinstalled screen protector and a have a couple very small hairline scratches from random pocket contact(possibly keys). The X10 screen is by no means scratch proof or very resistant however i noticed a great improvement in the touch sensitivaty without the screen protector.

Noticing small scratches on lower part of screen (keyboard area),anybody else?

Last week i noticed i had one scratch on the lower part of my screen,checked today,and now there are four similair cuts.
I am extremely careful with my phone and have no idea how they got there. Is anybody else having this problem?
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nope
jje
no scratches yet on mine, i got "just" some dust under the screen i would never thought this could ever happen on these phones, but Samsung proved me wrong once again
a friend has some small surface scratches on his since day one, but he's kinda strange like that and he doesn't care...
Really happy with my screen, no scratches (even without a case and it my pocket/bag with keys and coins and other nasties) and the screen doesn't seem to smudge as badly as previous phones and is easy to clean when it does smudge.
The scratches are really small,try putting your phone screen directly at a light source and look at it from different angles. I'm scared that I got a defective screen on my phone,because the only thing remotely sharp that could of made the scratches were my nails,but that shouldn't be happening with gorilla glass.
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The one thing that realllly scratches gorilla glass is sand, or anything sand like. Keys and all that are fine. But seriously beware of sand. If you're keeping it in a case or something make sure that there isn't a piece of sand or something similar in the lower end (where the keyboard would be), same goes for pockets and stuff.
I heard that sand and jewellery could cut the glass and nothing like that ever came near the screen.
Except maybe,could sugar crystals (from a packet of sugar) cut it?
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Eat_My_Brains said:
Really happy with my screen, no scratches (even without a case and it my pocket/bag with keys and coins and other nasties) and the screen doesn't seem to smudge as badly as previous phones and is easy to clean when it does smudge.
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That's called tempting fate..
No scratches for me yet no case or screen protector...i work with steel and leave it on the bench and no marks yet...touch wood
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if u put ur screen under bright light at odd angles u will see fine scratches there
those scratches are in the coating not the glass
the coating is highly scratchable anything can scratch it unlike the glass beneath it which is scratch resistant
The small scratches probably merely affect the oleophobic coating and not the gorilla class.
The oleophobic coating has been applied to improve the legibility of the screen under direct sunlight but some consumers complain that the oleophobic coating is very scratch-able and prone to wearing off prematurely...
Some people even go as far as advising against applying screen protectors arguing that the adhesive layers found in cheap screen protectors damage the oleophobic coating of the screen thus causing small scratches or cuts.
I got one of the scratches you describe, very small and hard to see but its there. Ive been treating the thing extra careful too.
As the poster above said it is as if its on a very very thin coat on top of the gorilla glass.
If I may suggest getting a screen protector. They're really cheap on ebay. I spent 3 euros for 6 from ecell, and then I spent (before) for 6 (of a different kind which I'm not too happy with) for around 2 euros, another company which usually comes from Germany. Here are the links:
e_cell screen protectors (which I like)
http://cgi.ebay.es/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130501908504&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
The other one (which I don't like, but serve their purpose for being so cheap!)
http://cgi.ebay.es/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170638019246&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
That must be it,I found a guy online who posted how he removed the scratches:
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Hope this helps,if somebody tries it out please post results
As for screen protectors...
I think the SAMOLED+ screen is too beautiful to have a screen protector on it. They destroy the colours and make images look much worse,for me it ruins the point of having a great screen. Just my two cents.
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I also have a small scratch in that part and some very very faint ones at the top of the screen.
Mister Jozo said:
As for screen protectors...
I think the SAMOLED+ screen is too beautiful to have a screen protector on it. They destroy the colours and make images look much worse,for me it ruins the point of having a great screen. Just my two cents.
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Good screen protectors don't effect the image quality and vibrance of the display. Try SGP's ultra crystal protectors.

Screen Protector?

Just curious as to how many people use a screen protector on their TF. If you don't, how's your screen holding up?
I've had my transformer since black Friday and the screen has not one scratch and I take it to class everyday. I have a case on it too.
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I have dogs that like to jump on beds, so I use one just in case. Also I use one so I don't fret about my glass being dirty or when a girl with rings on is playing with it, I will always know I have a perfect glass behind the screen protector. Sadly my screen underneath has funky **** going on like light bleed and a discolored spot
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I don't have a screen protector, but I am looking into getting one.
I have a very tiny dot on the border of the glass which I don't like much, just in case.
But the problem is how to apply a screen protector!! on my HD2 with its 4.3" display I had too much difficulty to put a screen protector without leaving dust underneath it, on a 10" display it is impossible....
I don't use a screen protector and my screen is perfect.
Tough i always keep it docked, so i guess it helps a lot
mcbyte_it said:
I don't have a screen protector, but I am looking into getting one.
I have a very tiny dot on the border of the glass which I don't like much, just in case.
But the problem is how to apply a screen protector!! on my HD2 with its 4.3" display I had too much difficulty to put a screen protector without leaving dust underneath it, on a 10" display it is impossible....
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Biggest tip I can give is to apply the screen protector in the bathroom after running a hot shower to get the steam in the room to make the dust die down. Also, the bit of added moisture in the air helps to let you slide the screen protector around a bit before letting it become settled.
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Biggest tip I can give is to apply the screen protector in the bathroom after running a hot shower to get the steam in the room to make the dust die down. Also, the bit of added moisture in the air helps to let you slide the screen protector around a bit before letting it become settled.
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I use clear tape to get dirt out from underneath. But yes bathroom helps although I don't make it steamy. The biggest problem I ran into was aligning the whole thing. One corner would always be off just a tad. I ended up trimming it a bit and I can't even tell.
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checking for videos on how to apply a screen protector, I found this video:
where can I find this Dust Isolation sheet ?!? it seems GREAT
I use a screen protector on my TF101 mainly because it reduces glare and the fingerprints come off easier and it feels smoother that the regular gorilla glass
My tf101 was a best buy display model. It didn't have a screen protector then and it doesn't have one now. I sell saltwater livestock for a living and I'm a mechanic on the side, so it frequently comes in contact with dirt, grease, and saltwater. Not a scratch on the screen. I use a targus case to protect the screen when its not in use.
Regarding putting a screen protector on. Its just like window tint fellas. Clean screen as best you can. Mix some hand soap and tap water in a spray bottle. Spray screen protector and device and apply screen protector. Now spray front side of screen protector. Use a credit card or rubber squeegee to squeegee the water out from under the protector. As the water comes out it will drag the dust with it. Keep a towel on hand to dry the device as the water runs out. You might see a little water left under the protector after squeegeeing but it will dry completely over the next few days so don't worry about it.
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Steinheil ultra crystal on mine. Best on the market bar none, and dry install. Nice and easy with no liquid.
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crzycrkr said:
Steinheil ultra crystal on mine. Best on the market bar none, and dry install. Nice and easy with no liquid.
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its just too bad that SGP has no longevity... and by that I mean I can still get a martian fields and skinomi products for my old Touch Pro 2 but cant get a screen protector for either OR my TF101 through SGP/Steinheil...
When it comes to screen protectors for me its SGP/Steinheil then Martian Fields (then pretty much anyone else), but like I said, 8-12 Months later they drop it completely... so unless you stock up on them, be prepared to be screwed to find a different brand if you have an issue (I had my nephew destroy one of mine... I couldnt get my finger under the side but 2min with him and me not looking and it was off and bent in half )
My .02 anyway..
Hammerfest said:
its just too bad that SGP has no longevity... and by that I mean I can still get a martian fields and skinomi products for my old Touch Pro 2 but cant get a screen protector for either OR my TF101 through SGP/Steinheil...
When it comes to screen protectors for me its SGP/Steinheil then Martian Fields (then pretty much anyone else), but like I said, 8-12 Months later they drop it completely... so unless you stock up on them, be prepared to be screwed to find a different brand if you have an issue (I had my nephew destroy one of mine... I couldnt get my finger under the side but 2min with him and me not looking and it was off and bent in half )
My .02 anyway..
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I upgrade every year, so that doesn't concern me too much, but that's a good point. I also usually do buy an extra pack
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unnecessary i'd say.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUcJnwyCtes
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unnecessary i'd say.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUcJnwyCtes
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And...you'd be wrong. All those things he did most likely wouldn't scratch regular glass. For the most part keys and coins aren't hard enough. What will scratch glass, gorilla or not, is sand. Sand and grit is everythere. If your hands are dirty its there. It there's lint in your pockets its there. That's the enemy of screens.
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And...you'd be wrong. All those things he did most likely wouldn't scratch regular glass. For the most part keys and coins aren't hard enough. What will scratch glass, gorilla or not, is sand. Sand and grit is everythere. If your hands are dirty its there. It there's lint in your pockets its there. That's the enemy of screens.
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I still had some fun when he sliced an Apple on it
Anyway, mine lives with the dock, so my screen isn't in contact with random dirty stuff.
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Had the transformer since it was first released. After a few months of ownership i tried the SGP ultra fine matte protector as the insane glare was starting to bother me. Had that on for a few months during which the screen nor the protector took any damage as i keep it docked when its not in use. Took it off 3 months ago and since then i've gotten one hairline scratch thats about a cm long, not noticeable unless you knew where it was.
I would say if you keep the thing docked and take care when cleaning the screen its not necessary to have a screen protector. However if you don't use a dock and the tablet is constantly exposed to any number of things that can scratch it, or you're not in the habit of taking good care of your gadgets then a screen protector might not be a bad idea.
Every time i see one of those glass scratch demos i facepalm as i've had quite a few devices that were supposed to be "scratch proof" get scratched by the most mundane things. Its all about angle, material, and force. I can slice a screen and not get a scratch but angle it a bit and give it more pressure and I bet i can get these screens to scratch pretty easily.
Scratch resistance is awesome in the lab, but in the real world there are just too many variables to be absolutely sure.
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Scratch resistance is awesome in the lab, but in the real world there are just too many variables to be absolutely sure.
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Says my Galaxy note.
Got some ugly scratches when I decided to use the flip cover case. Some sand or dirt got in between the glass and the leather cover. My heart is still broken because of it.
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So how do we feel about ZAGG screen protectors? I'm looking to put one on my Slider. In the past, I have been pleased with Caseen and their glareshatter screen protectors. Just wondering if there's any really recommended brands?
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So how do we feel about ZAGG screen protectors? I'm looking to put one on my Slider. In the past, I have been pleased with Caseen and their glareshatter screen protectors. Just wondering if there's any really recommended brands?
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I've used ZAGG a few times, once on my zune, once on my evo and again on my evo LTE. The original ZAGG product is one of those soft wet apply films that are a bit grippy compared to a hard plastic film protector. I hated it for my zune and i hated it for my evo because of the grippiness as well as the slight orange peel effect. Over time the zune's wore down enough so that it was smooth and had no orange peel, but that took about a year and only in the spots you swipe around to change tracks and volume. Same thing happened with my evo.
On the Evo LTE I was tempted to try zagg HD, which actually was much better than the original film in that it was a lot more clear and had less grip, but alas it was still a soft wet apply film and i just couldn't get used to it.
If you like the grippy texture then the zagg and similiar soft films last longer than the hard plastics. It seems like a love it or hate it situation for a lot of people, myself included.
I will always go with the hard plastic dry install as those are in my opinion easier to apply because you can hover over the screen and slowly lower it as opposed to sliding it around on liquid and then have to squeegee it all out later. Even if i have to replace it once every few months as opposed to once a year for the zagg, i will still stick with the hard plastics.

Scratched Gorilla Glass

Thinking Gorilla Glass was scratch resistant as I have seen on YouTube, I showed my friend that it doesn't scratch. I took a coin and rubbed it on the screen. I wasn't even pushing that hard. When I look, there are thin scratches from the coin! They are only noticeable when the screen is off. Except for two small ones. They are about 5 mm long and pretty thin. They are visible all the time especially when there is a white background. They distort the colour and now I'm obsessed knowing they are there. Is there any way to remove them? Such as tooth paste or some other material? I don't want anything that will remove the oleophobic coating on the screen. Just something to fill in the scratches. Thanks!
Im sure there is a polish for delicate glass. GOOGLE is your friend.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/moto-droid/114659-gorilla-glass-does-scratch-but-i-know-how-repair.html
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I took a coin and rubbed it on the screen.
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Don't be surprised when Asus reject your RMA request?
Sure it's scratch resistant, but it does not mean you should go out and rub a coin into it.
Sorta like trying out a bulletproof vest by shooting yourself...
I also have a tiny scratch right where the bezel meets the display because i droped a lighter on my prime once.
Glass will always be susceptible to scratches no matter what brand, its physics! Would be cool to have a tablet with a diamond touchscreen though. Now that would be scratch proof
I once dropped my Evo 3d with an extended battery on my prime. No scratches and that thing was heavy and it was from 4-5 feet as well. Landed screen first.
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I feel your pain!
Why don't you put a screen protector on your device? First, if nothing else, you'll be sure not to add any additional scratches to your screen.
2nd, other people have posted that scratches were not visible once they put a screen protector on their screen.
I have tried three different ones, ArmorShield, Skinomi and ACase.
Really like the A Case screen protector, and it comes three to a pack, so if you mess up the first one, you still have two more (it's a dry apply screen shield)
Good luck!
Wow people really do confuse the difference between "-proof" and "-resistant". Have you ever tried submerging a water-resistant watch in water?
In any case, most touch screen devices these days are coated with oleophobic coatings which scratch much more easily than glass.
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You almost certainly scratched the oleophobic coating, not the screen itself. Not that it matters really, the screen still looks scratched. Those coatings are not nearly as tough as the underlying glass. I have noticed similar little scratches on my Galaxy Nexus screen. All in all, I still think the coating is great though.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/moto-droid/114659-gorilla-glass-does-scratch-but-i-know-how-repair.html
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http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/moto-droid/114659-gorilla-glass-does-scratch-but-i-know-how-repair.html
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You're welcome.*
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bedoig said:
You almost certainly scratched the oleophobic coating, not the screen itself. Not that it matters really, the screen still looks scratched. Those coatings are not nearly as tough as the underlying glass. I have noticed similar little scratches on my Galaxy Nexus screen. All in all, I still think the coating is great though.
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That makes plenty of sense as im pretty sure glass wont scratch from the little amount of pressure i was applying. The thing is, there are two small spots, one being around 5-7 mm long and the other being only around 2 mm long. They are mostly only noticed when a light coloured backround is on, such as the white backround in the browser. They seem to show up sort of ''Rainbowish' these ones must be the actual glass that is scratched because otherwise i doubt they would show up like that. Anyways, thanks for the kind reply!
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Gabe
I feel your pain!
Why don't you put a screen protector on your device? First, if nothing else, you'll be sure not to add any additional scratches to your screen.
2nd, other people have posted that scratches were not visible once they put a screen protector on their screen.
I have tried three different ones, ArmorShield, Skinomi and ACase.
Really like the A Case screen protector, and it comes three to a pack, so if you mess up the first one, you still have two more (it's a dry apply screen shield)
Good luck!
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I am considering purchasing a screen protector ASAP. Does the Acase screen protector show up in anyway? What i mean is, will the screen look any different? An example would be an anti-glare screen protector makes the screen more matte and i dont think the colours show as nicely. Thanks for the recommendations!
Namidairo said:
Don't be surprised when Asus reject your RMA request?
Sure it's scratch resistant, but it does not mean you should go out and rub a coin into it.
Sorta like trying out a bulletproof vest by shooting yourself...
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Gorilla Glass (even second version) is a piece of sh#it and was always it. I'd like to have the DragonTrail Glass in my gadgets :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpbOoQpwAFs
Gabewalters said:
That makes plenty of sense as im pretty sure glass wont scratch from the little amount of pressure i was applying. The thing is, there are two small spots, one being around 5-7 mm long and the other being only around 2 mm long. They are mostly only noticed when a light coloured backround is on, such as the white backround in the browser. They seem to show up sort of ''Rainbowish' these ones must be the actual glass that is scratched because otherwise i doubt they would show up like that. Anyways, thanks for the kind reply!
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Those might actually be small fractures in the glass. Similar occurrences have been discussed in the My Screen Cracked (or something like that) thread. It seems like Asus may have a glass quality issue with some of their units.
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Those might actually be small fractures in the glass. Similar occurrences have been discussed in the My Screen Cracked (or something like that) thread. It seems like Asus may have a glass quality issue with some of their units.
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How would the screen have fractured from a quarter that rubbed on the screen? That makes sense of why the scratches are deeper than the others but I don't know how the screen would fracture. Is there anyway I can try to ride these fractures/scratches? I have been searching for weeks now and the best product I could find would be "iDrops" they polish out scratches but people say it's removed the oleophobic coating. Will some sort of toothpaste rubbed into the scratch work?
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Gabewalters said:
How would the screen have fractured from a quarter that rubbed on the screen? That makes sense of why the scratches are deeper than the others but I don't know how the screen would fracture. Is there anyway I can try to ride these fractures/scratches? I have been searching for weeks now and the best product I could find would be "iDrops" they polish out scratches but people say it's removed the oleophobic coating. Will some sort of toothpaste rubbed into the scratch work?
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No that will only make it worse (toothpaste at least). I think you have to accept it can't be 100% fixed with some paste/polish. You could contact Asus for a new touchscreen.
I've had my prime since December with no screen protector or case. i use it extensively everyday. no scratches at all on my display or back cover.
I really don't care if the scratches can be seen when the screen is off I just don't want them to be visible when the screen is on (rainbow like). As long as they aren't visible when the screen is on is fine with me. Do you know of any fine polishes that might do this that won't harm the glass or the screen?
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My Prime once fell of from a bed on the floor, around 40-50cm, it didn't got any scrathes as it was attached to the dock, and was half open, though now I have a feeling the dock does not hold the tablet so tightly as before.
But what I don't like about the Gorrilla Glass (or either it's not calibrated touch detection in the software side) is that the Tablet does not detect my touches when I use the back side of my finger (finger nail), does anyone else have the same issue? Other touch devices I have (iPad and EVO 3D) detect my touches from front and back of the finger the same without issues.
I actually have a HOX with Gorilla Glass 2, but this seems to be the most active and recent thread regarding removal of scratches from GG, so I suppose it'd still be rather relevant. No point starting a new thread just for GG on a different device, right?
Yes, I babied this phone like... a baby since i got it on the first day and no screen protectors were out yet, but somehow it still got a nick(rather visible) in the upper left corner and some light scratches around the middle of the phone.
Then I found some manufacturing defects but I'm afraid they'll refuse to repair/replace my phone under warranty if they see the nick.
So has anyone found any way to cover up the scratches? Even temporarily, just to get through the chat with the assistance team? (No I can't get 3M's 06070, lowest quantity sold here is 6 quarts for ~$400. Way too expensive.)

removing and replacing screen shatter-resistant protector

The Xperia S comes with a pre-applied shatter resistant screen protector.
Now the thing is I got a scratch on mine. Which kinda sucks. How easy is it to remove it and then replace it with a new exact same one?
I bought a pair of screen protectors. But they don't fit all around the screen like the shatter-resistant protector.
They cut out around the sensors, camera and speaker.
So. Any tips and tricks?
Screenshot of the bought screenprotectors:
http://db.tt/O2iOYjki
Well put another one like that, its almost impossible, already its a thread in here for that, how to remove it and the options for a new one
kekkle said:
The Xperia S comes with a pre-applied shatter resistant screen protector.
Now the thing is I got a scratch on mine. Which kinda sucks. How easy is it to remove it and then replace it with a new exact same one?
I bought a pair of screen protectors. But they don't fit all around the screen like the shatter-resistant protector.
They cut out around the sensors, camera and speaker.
So. Any tips and tricks?
Screenshot of the bought screenprotectors:
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That's because you're supposed to cover the anti-shatter sheet (which is not a screen protector just anti-shatter) with a screen protector that you can easily replace.
I just posted a thread in this same forum section about official Sony ones I got from Japan. But remember they are not the same as your anti-shatter sheet, you're supposed to put them on top of the anti-shatter sheet.
In terms of what they cover, they are the closest to the anti-shatter sheet as they cover all the sensors, the Sony ones just don't cover the camera and the earpiece.
If you order the Sony potector, you have two choices. You can either put it on top of the anti-shatter sheetand hope you wont be able to see the scratch anymore through this one or you can remove the anti-shatter sheet and place this one down alone. Its up to you.
I've already removed the sheet. It's now completely free of protection as I screwed up putting on the screen protector.
It's more sensitive dust and fingermarks now, but overall I'm happy. Will be placing a screen protector on it soon again when I get around to it.
Took mine off today. I seriously, repeat, seriously doubt that sheet can do ANYTHING. It peels off like regular screen protector, does not glue to the glass at all. Once you have a corner up it lasts less than a second to peel it off.
For some of you repeating what SONY want you to believe, carry on.
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richteralan said:
Took mine off today. I seriously, repeat, seriously doubt that sheet can do ANYTHING. It peels off like regular screen protector, does not glue to the glass at all. Once you have a corner up it lasts less than a second to peel it off.
For some of you repeating what SONY want you to believe, carry on.
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That's what I say. The screen is much better without it.
Should i remove the screen protector
I have Scractched My Sony Xperia S , and it kinds of irritates when there is more White ,, I heard and read that the factory applied screen Protector can be removed, the Question is , is it a screen Protector or a shatter Protector..
In the case i do remove it how do i clean the glass if there is any residue gum and will it affect the screen in any way... Should i Put on a New screen Protector Once i Remove the original Factory fitted one.
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That's what I say. The screen is much better without it.
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does Xperia U have the same screen shatter protector? mine is scratched in the second day, now I applied a screen protector over it
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Yes it is a shatter protector thick layer, I damaged mine too (Xperia P), I removed it and then applied a good quality screen protector, no residue no marks are left when the shatter protection is removed, hope this helps.
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I had no idea the provided protectors had to go on top of the already applied one. Is it written in the manual/instructions?
Anyway, what is a good screen protector that can replace the shatter one to a good enough standard? I have scratches on mine, a rather large scuff over the front camera, making it unusable. So I suppose I could remove it and replace it with a protector?
Any recommendations?
It doesn't prevent shatter, i know that for a fact!
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Thats probably why it's not called a shatter preventor protector
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How easily can the screen without the preapplied protector be scratched? Just from carrying in a jeans pocket?
Should I apply a screenprotector if I remove the original one?
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The screen of the Xperia S is pretty scratch proof. Like really proof. The shatter-resistant protector on the other hand gets scratched in no time.
kekkle said:
The screen of the Xperia S is pretty scratch proof. Like really proof. The shatter-resistant protector on the other hand gets scratched in no time.
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This.
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Yeah if I put my face up to the screen during direct sunlight I can just make out tiny scratches. Some of them are not permanent and some clearly are. The screen has been very good vs heavy scratches, but still gets light scratches like every other phone screen I have had. If you were to put a screen protector on you wouldnt even notice the scratches. Light scratches will always happen and it doesnt really bother me unless I can see them.
Edit: I did receive a free Spigen screen protector so I will try it out and see if I like it or not just for the hell of it. Generally though I prefer the naked screen and even my old hero with gorilla glass 1 came through just fine except for the minute almost imperceptible scraches.
Folks, Gorilla Glass is a marketing ploy. It doesn't offer any real scratch resistance over normal glass, but the compound it's made of makes it less likely to shatter (two different things). When it comes to scratch resistance, you're looking at the Mohs scale.
Mohs scale of mineral hardness - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You may be more familiar with this than you think. Diamond is a 10, the hardest substance known to man. Diamond can only be scratched by another diamond or a laser.
Glass has a rating of 6-7, depending on the hardness of the glass. Plastic is a 3-4.
If you take your keys over a glass screen (or a glass window), touch it to the surface, and rub with a little pressure (just enough to gain a degree of resistance), you WILL NOT scratch the glass. I've even scared the crap out of someone by hacking at my Zune HD's screen with a carbon-steel steak knife, and not a scratch.
So what will cause you to scratch your glass screen? Two things;
-a softer material (like metal) and force, not resistance. Yes, if you slam something into the screen, it may very well get a small crack, small enough that we see it as a scratch. Because, while glass is very scratch resistant, it easily shatters. It's force that gives us those small "scratches."
-dirt/sand - Sand (quartz sand, specifically) is an active ingredient in glass. If you get small particles of sand or other types of dirt on the screen and then wipe it off with your shirt (or even a microfiber cloth), you can develop small scratches in your screen. The most annoying is those who wipe with a circular motion, as it leaves rings in the screen. Want to avoid this? Take a SMALL amount of Endust for Electronics and a paper towel and gently wipe off the screen. The liquid will act as a buffer between the screen and the dirt. Then, take a microfiber cloth (those little eyeglass cleaning cloths that come with screen protectors) and wipe off the residue left by the Endust and any pieces of the paper towel.
When you use a quality screen protector (SGP, Clarivu, Martin Fields), you're putting a plastic overlay over the phone. While this will scratch more easily than the glass screen, if applied correctly, it acts as a shock absorber, thus making it harder for the screen to shatter. It protects from scratches by taking the scratches itself, and it protects from shattering by absorbing the force of the blow.
The wet applications like the Invisible Shield are so thin that they don't noticeably increase shatter resistance. They'll just keep the screen together when shattered. The Invisible Shield is harder to scratch though, making it so that you don't have to replace it as often (it looks nicer longer than a normal plastic screen protector). Basically, it protects from scratches by deflecting them, but doesn't offer any real shock absorption.
Gorilla glass claims a hardness of 9 on Mohs scale which is utter bs. It realistically has a hardness of about 7-7.5 max. Normal glass can range from 6-7.2 depending on the type. Diamond is 10 and Sapphire is 9 which is what the make high end watch faces out of but is damn expensive. If Gorilla Glass was a 9 then they would use it for the watch faces since it is much much cheaper. I have a Citizen watch that has sapphire and the face is scratched as **** because I have had it for 12 years.
Remember as long as the scratches are the insanely small type caused by sand grains and such, you can easily get some special polish and buff those right out. The one nice thing about our screens not having oleophobic coating is you dont have to worry about damaging the coating when you polish it.
The best way for a manufacturer to reduce scratches is to put a chin on the phone like the Hero had. This way the phone screen never touches the ground.
When I got the phone I thought that the phone had one screen protector installed and that the other one in the packge was spare. How wrong I was. Now the shatter-resistant protector is full of small scrathes, even tough I haven't had keys or anything else on the same pocket. I've had the phone for about three months now.
I ordered Martin Shields few days ago, and I'm going to replave the shatter-resistant protector with that.
I had Wrapsol on my Galaxy Note and was pretty satisfied with it, but unfortunately they don't make one for P. My wife has Zagg on her Galaxy S, but it's bit too stick for my taste.
I put a screen protector on today to test it with one and it was on for all of 30 seconds before I tore it off. I just cant stand the things. Perfect thing for me would be a fold over case but as I use my left hand for the phone, they all fold the wrong way.
The phone was completely unusable for me after removing the shatter protection. The glass itself is a sticky mess, even after wiping of the goo left from the shatter protection, fingerprints and dust stick like crazy and is a real chore to clean.
I bought a Steinhall crystal clear film and the phone is now smooooooth as butter. I absolutely love it.
revan17 said:
The phone was completely unusable for me after removing the shatter protection. The glass itself is a sticky mess, even after wiping of the goo left from the shatter protection, fingerprints and dust stick like crazy and is a real chore to clean.
I bought a Steinhall crystal clear film and the phone is now smooooooth as butter. I absolutely love it.
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It gets better after a while. Mine is nice and smooth. I got a free spigen clear with my case but it didn't feel as good as bare glass.
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I can't stand the edge it adds by the bar on the bottom.
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