[Q] ROOT vs HTCDEV UNLOCK - Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE

Hi all, I had an OG Evo and and Evo 3D. Both were rooted using various methods. HTCDEV unlocks became available right around when I rooted with Revolutionary.
I have been seeing some weird questions and comments in the forums. So if anyone can help out with some clarifying (links for me to read on my own are very welcome) it would be great.
- I have seen some posts stating that ROOT was achieved in the Dev forum, but S-OFF was not achieved. Don't you need S-OFF on HTC devices to achieve full root status? If not, what is the point of getting S-OFF then?
- HTCDEV only allows you to flash custom ROMs as I understand it. I assume that you can then flash SuperUser as well. Going this route looks like it voids the warranty. So why in the world would you do this? Many of the ROMs I used on the Evo 3D had special instructions for these people. It looked like it caused a headache. I understand this doesn't allow for custom kernels or to upgrade the radios without doing something (I have no idea what) special. Is this right?
- With Sprint now supporting rooted devices, why would you use HTCDEV (I have a feeling the answers to this will be...colorful)?
Thanks people!

S-OFF was meaningless ever since 4EXT recovery came out. I was able to flash anything without problems on the go using 4EXT recovery. The recovery can be found on the play store and I highly recommend buying the full version for $3 bucks. Best app I ever payed for.
I had the 3D unlocked HTC dev S-ON.

Jabawockee said:
S-OFF was meaningless ever since 4EXT recovery came out. I was able to flash anything without problems on the go using 4EXT recovery. The recovery can be found on the play store and I highly recommend buying the full version for $3 bucks. Best app I ever payed for.
I had the 3D unlocked HTC dev S-ON.
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Yeah, the only reason I disagree with this is cause when I got me replacement 3d it came with hboot 1.5 and I htcdev unlocked it and put 4ext and tried to flash roms and nothing worked ever. It worked perfectly with 1.4 and the eng hboot but htcdev was horrible for me s-off way beats htcdev s-on

alainater said:
Yeah, the only reason I disagree with this is cause when I got me replacement 3d it came with hboot 1.5 and I htcdev unlocked it and put 4ext and tried to flash roms and nothing worked ever. It worked perfectly with 1.4 and the eng hboot but htcdev was horrible for me s-off way beats htcdev s-on
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Damn! I wonder why it didn't work. It took me a while to get used to all its features but worked flawlessly. I was in the same boat had no choice received hboot 1.5 but if I was given a choice I would want the security flag OFF. Hopefully this can be achieved this time around.

Jabawockee said:
S-OFF was meaningless ever since 4EXT recovery came out. I was able to flash anything without problems on the go using 4EXT recovery. The recovery can be found on the play store and I highly recommend buying the full version for $3 bucks. Best app I ever payed for.
I had the 3D unlocked HTC dev S-ON.
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S-OFF is not meaningless. There are quite a few reasons why it is better than htcdev crappy boot unlock.

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[Q] Rooting EVO 3D that has lastest updates...

I was trying to perma root my EVO 3D with the revolutioary tool but it didnt support my bootloader (HBoot 1.5). Is ther another way I can perma or at least temp root my phone?
If I'm not mistaken you have to use htc's method of unlocking your phone with the hboot you have. Its quite a few threads on this particular subject in q & a. I don't think rev supports that hboot as of yet. If you want the link here it is
http://htcdev.com/bootloader/
But I strongly suggest you read the method htc provides to be sure its the route you want to take. Also you should.definitely read read read the q & a to gain a better understanding of what it is and to get users feedback and experiences. I don't personally recommend this method htc uses but I think its the only way to unlock and gain root to your phone with your particular hboot. Hope this helps.
Locked & Loaded
" Shooter on Deck "
Thank you. I have unlocked my boot loader using HTC's method and now I'm confused on how to root my phone. I'm new to this as u probably can tell. Thanks again.
You have to flash a recovery. Either twrp or clock work mod. If you choose clock work mod then you can download rom manger from the market and flash it from there. If you chose twrp the you can look Here for the latest
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192077
Also here a guide that might help you with it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239821
Hope this helps
Locked & Loaded
" Shooter on Deck "
1.5 was an ambush ! It plugged the temp root hole, it has also jacked up installing any roms so far on mine...
Do not go near the latest 2 sprint updates !!!!
As for htc unlocker, its a peice of crap and doesnt work on about 40% of phones spring tech support mgr told me when i called to demand a defination of an error code it gives...
And they refuse to support it
sprint bastages are as bad a apple scum...
HTC method works just as well as regular unlock.. it doesn't not work with 40% of phones either. 40% of people just can't follow a simple tutorial...
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Actually jlear3 it does not ! If you read the htc unlocker page it directly tells you that evo 3d is exempt from the working unlocker pgm
With 1.5 you cant do jack ! No recovery , no temp root, no roms, nothing !!!! What part of that do you not understand....
My phone came with 1.5 and have been able to use htc unlock and flash anything I want.
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Malikione said:
My phone came with 1.5 and have been able to use htc unlock and flash anything I want.
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I agree. It's not hard to follow a tutorial. My replacement phone shipped with hboot 1.50, I was unaware that the original root method I used on my original 3D wouldn't work, which directed me to htc's unlocker. I unlocked, and was able to get TWRP recovery as well as superuser, flashed a ROM and have been pretty good so far. The only thing I'm aware you can not do is flash radios. Custom Kernel's are available via fastboot, but I haven't delved into that yet.
-Slevin

[Q] Worth rooting EVO 3D right now?

So I just got the EVO 3D and am running HBOOT 1.5 and the most recent update I believe. Nothing I could do about that, it was preloaded on there.
I'm wondering if it is even worth it for me to root my phone at this point. I've seen a few people hboot 1.5 **** up their phones and i'd rather not do that. I'm no stranger to custom roms at all (I installed countless ones on my Hero) so it's not that I'm not familiar. Were the people who messed up their phones just doing stuff they shouldn't have/being stupid in general?
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So I just got the EVO 3D and am running HBOOT 1.5 and the most recent update I believe. Nothing I could do about that, it was preloaded on there.
I'm wondering if it is even worth it for me to root my phone at this point. I've seen a few people hboot 1.5 **** up their phones and i'd rather not do that. I'm no stranger to custom roms at all (I installed countless ones on my Hero) so it's not that I'm not familiar. Were the people who messed up their phones just doing stuff they shouldn't have/being stupid in general?
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Yes, it worths at least for myself. I have hboot 1.50 too and i rooted fast with no problems.
DjNawo said:
So I just got the EVO 3D and am running HBOOT 1.5 and the most recent update I believe. Nothing I could do about that, it was preloaded on there.
I'm wondering if it is even worth it for me to root my phone at this point. I've seen a few people hboot 1.5 **** up their phones and i'd rather not do that. I'm no stranger to custom roms at all (I installed countless ones on my Hero) so it's not that I'm not familiar. Were the people who messed up their phones just doing stuff they shouldn't have/being stupid in general?
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More than likely, yes. Most users who follow the guides don't seem to have issues.
The HTC unlock method changes the dynamics a bit from previous common and accepted methods. Many "new" users become between old and current guides.
As far as I've seen, there are only three limitations to hboot 1.5, compared with early "compromised" versions using the AlphaRevX revolutionary method.
1) Kernel is not able to be flashed from recovery mode. Work arounds include: flashing from normal Android mode, my app is great for that, Flash Image GUI. Loading the custom recovery from fastboot. Flashing the kernel from fastboot. Using the "dumlock" method with TWRP.
2) Unable to selectively flash radio images
3) Unable to selectively flash intial splash screens
If I'm missing anything, I'm sure somebody else can post up.
None of those seem like deal breakers to me. Thanks for the fast replies.
It's kind of a ***** just because you have to do a few extra steps but if you know what your doing you won't screw it up.
Yarr. I think I'm going to keep stock for probably just a bit longer. Maybe 1.5 S-Off wont be a problem then. Not bored of it yet, and coming from HTC Hero the thing is a dream.
Root is the way to go Get rid of bloat Also adb isn't hard I always fastboot boot recovery.img and wipe flash no issues
Should I start a new thread on this? I tried to root my HBoot1.5 with 2.17.651.5. When I have went through the HTC unlock process it stays locked. I tried to install the 2.08 version through the original RUU, but it keeps failing. Not sure where I should go from there.
ls3mach said:
Should I start a new thread on this? I tried to root my HBoot1.5 with 2.17.651.5. When I have went through the HTC unlock process it stays locked. I tried to install the 2.08 version through the original RUU, but it keeps failing. Not sure where I should go from there.
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I used the 2.17 from http://www.filefactory.com/f/4ef0ef536face67a/ and mine unlocked. I ran the ruu while in hboot so it didnt check my current version. When i tried the same ruu from within android it failed every time.
What did it say when you flashed the unlock token? Did you get the message on the phone screen asking if you want to unlock?
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I used the 2.17 from http://www.filefactory.com/f/4ef0ef536face67a/ and mine unlocked. I ran the ruu while in hboot so it didnt check my current version. When i tried the same ruu from within android it failed every time.
What did it say when you flashed the unlock token? Did you get the message on the phone screen asking if you want to unlock?
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That is what he needs to do to fix .
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DjNawo said:
Yarr. I think I'm going to keep stock for probably just a bit longer. Maybe 1.5 S-Off wont be a problem then. Not bored of it yet, and coming from HTC Hero the thing is a dream.
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You have Hboot 1.5 with S-off?
G.Newton said:
You have Hboot 1.5 with S-off?
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No he doesn't from what he said he is stock and asking if he should root
xcpefrmreality said:
I used the 2.17 from http://www.filefactory.com/f/4ef0ef536face67a/ and mine unlocked. I ran the ruu while in hboot so it didnt check my current version. When i tried the same ruu from within android it failed every time.
What did it say when you flashed the unlock token? Did you get the message on the phone screen asking if you want to unlock?
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Much obliged!
DjNawo said:
So I just got the EVO 3D and am running HBOOT 1.5 and the most recent update I believe. Nothing I could do about that, it was preloaded on there.
I'm wondering if it is even worth it for me to root my phone at this point. I've seen a few people hboot 1.5 **** up their phones and i'd rather not do that. I'm no stranger to custom roms at all (I installed countless ones on my Hero) so it's not that I'm not familiar. Were the people who messed up their phones just doing stuff they shouldn't have/being stupid in general?
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I think some people just got ahead of themselves flashing wrong files. I got a bit worried too first go round after coming from a.Transform.
In my signature I've got a guide/flashing notes that are a bit more updated than some of the stickied threads that may help clear some things up.
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What root did you use
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Yoyodude1124 said:
What root did you use
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I used the HTC Unlock (zedomax's video), CWM Recovery, Su 3.07 zip, BusyBox (market), all layed out here:
[Guide] My Hboot 1.50 HTC Unlock/recovery/rom/kernel flashing notes http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1495358
Hey thanks again. Yeah I have the newest update, so i would need to get the 2.17 that xcp mentioned. Also, thanks for the guide above.

[Q] S-Off without htcdev unlock

Hey guys, anyone have advice on whether or not to use HtcDev unlock method or wait for another method? I have a protection plan through Best Buy and they don't even check to see if its been "tampered" or not if I need a replacement. I am coming from EVO 3D and had hboot v1.4 so I never needed to use the HTC method. Just curious if it is harder to flash Roms and kernels with HTC method I guess. Thanks for the help in advance and its great to see such great devs working on this great phone already.
For the 3d it was a little harder, but not sure if that's the case for the LTE. I am personally gonna wait for s-off, but there is an app that let's you flash kernels without going through fastboot. Flashimage GUI I'm sure it will have to be updated to work with the LTE if It's even needed.
Sent from my EVO LTE!!
There is no s-off right now, but there are custom recoveries that work with the HTCDev unlock. Which means, custom roms and backups.
So am I correct in assuming that htcdev unlock with a custom recovery will function the same as s-off in terms of flashing roms, kernels, etc.? Also I should be able to still execute an s-off after performing the htcdev unlock, correct? I would hate to do the htc unlock method and then not be able to get s-off... Thanks again guys!
I have a similar question. When i use HTC dev to unlock, they will keep track. Do they notify sprint that my phone is no longer stock? Can you htc dev LOCK, so as to get it back to normal? I kinda don't even want to root if I have to let HTC know that I'm doing it by htc dev.
jirafabo said:
I have a similar question. When i use HTC dev to unlock, they will keep track. Do they notify sprint that my phone is no longer stock? Can you htc dev LOCK, so as to get it back to normal? I kinda don't even want to root if I have to let HTC know that I'm doing it by htc dev.
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When you dev unlock HTC keeps the sn of your phone on file as being unlocked, I doubt they say anything to Sprint though. Even if you relock HTC still knows. I would give it a couple weeks and see if we get s-off if not then you might want to reconsider htcs method.
Sent from my EVO LTE!!
rmusic2400 said:
So am I correct in assuming that htcdev unlock with a custom recovery will function the same as s-off in terms of flashing roms, kernels, etc.? Also I should be able to still execute an s-off after performing the htcdev unlock, correct? I would hate to do the htc unlock method and then not be able to get s-off... Thanks again guys!
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Not sure about s-off after unlock though I don't see why you couldn't, but on the 3d with the HTC unlock method you had to either fastboot into recovery through adb or use flashimage GUI to flash kernels.
Sent from my EVO LTE!!
First off htc dev sucks. I had it for a while on my evo 3d with hboot 1.5 and it was terrible and I was dying from being confused on how to flash roms. It worked great for some people and for others like me it didn't. So far right now i'm htcdev unlocked and it's fine I guess. Of course once we get s-off i'll totally go that way as s-off is soooooo much better than the dev unlock.
alainater said:
First off htc dev sucks. I had it for a while on my evo 3d with hboot 1.5 and it was terrible and I was dying from being confused on how to flash roms. It worked great for some people and for others like me it didn't. So far right now i'm htcdev unlocked and it's fine I guess. Of course once we get s-off i'll totally go that way as s-off is soooooo much better than the dev unlock.
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Yeah I heard it was terrible on the 3D, luckily I had hboot 1.4 so I had s-off... Is it as terrible with the LTE? It seems to me that with clockworkmod recovery and htcdev unlock you are able to flash zips the same as with s-off. Don't know if I am correct on that though...
I thought I read that somewhere too. If that's the case HTC dev unlock would be fine with me.
Sent from my EVO LTE!!
durandetto said:
I thought I read that somewhere too. If that's the case HTC dev unlock would be fine with me.
Sent from my EVO LTE!!
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Yea me too, I have already registered with the htcdev website just awaiting confirmation that I can flash zips as usual...
Use TWRP. That recovery writes to boot, the security flag dont matter with this phone like it did with the 3D. Once your unlocked (HTC way) you can always relock very easily. The first time I flashed a recovery it stuck on the first try unlike the 3D with hboot 1.5.
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Use TWRP. That recovery writes to boot, the security flag dont matter with this phone like it did with the 3D. Once your unlocked (HTC way) you can always relock very easily. The first time I flashed a recovery it stuck on the first try unlike the 3D with hboot 1.5.
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Yea thats what I seem to be reading. It seems if you just flash the ruu that it will re-lock the phone as if it was never done. Sounds great, I will try it out tonight! Thanks guys
HTC unlocked last night no problems. Also rooted first in under a min on Friday night after I picked the phone up. use Goo manager in the market to install TWRP after HTC unlocked, very easy. flashed viper ROM today, and everything is fast and sweet. Don't know what U are all waiting for, go ahead.
ryanalan82 said:
HTC unlocked last night no problems. Also rooted first in under a min on Friday night after I picked the phone up. use Goo manager in the market to install TWRP after HTC unlocked, very easy. flashed viper ROM today, and everything is fast and sweet. Don't know what U are all waiting for, go ahead.
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Cool Ryan thanks for the confirmation I will be rooting and unlocking tonight!
Now if the htc unlock allows us to write to boot to flash recovery and kernels, would there even be a reason to wait for dev S-off? besides not having to register with htc?
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Now if the htc unlock allows us to write to boot to flash recovery and kernels, would there even be a reason to wait for dev S-off? besides not having to register with htc?
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Flashing different radios, I believe. Can't do that without S-OFF.
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Use TWRP. That recovery writes to boot, the security flag dont matter with this phone like it did with the 3D. Once your unlocked (HTC way) you can always relock very easily. The first time I flashed a recovery it stuck on the first try unlike the 3D with hboot 1.5.
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Just to clarify: So unlocking via the HTC method, installing this and then un-rooting with the RUU (if necessary) won't show any evidence of 'tampering', correct?
It might not show any evedence but HTC will know, they keep track of what phones are unlocked. That's why you go through the whole process with the unlock codes.
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I dont understand what anybody cares if you register with HTC or not. I have insurance with Sprint and I have taken my phone to them to get repaired without any problems.

[S-ON ONLY!!!]How to re-rootif you have downloaded the newest OTA

<MOD EDIT>
THIS IS NOT SAFE FOR REGAINING S-OFF
DO NOT PERFORM THIS METHOD IF YOU WISH TO KEEP S-OFF
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So i didnt want to wait for the devs to update thier roms, and i wanted the radio updates as well. for all those ppl say not to do the OTA you will losew root until a new method is found are not correct. Yes you will lose root, but you can get it back. and its easy. Here are the steps
1. Relock boot loader
2. apply RUU for the same rom version you are running http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1645890
3. rerun RegawMOD EVO 4G LTE Rooter
3a. It will sucessfully unlock and flash the recovery on your phone, but it will fail to root it.
3b. Download the rooting files http://downloadandroidrom.com/file/HTCEvo4GLTE/rooting/Evo4GLTERoot2.zip
4. Extract the contents of the zip file
5. Copy the file CWM-SuperSU-v0.87.zip to your SD card
6. Reboot to recovery
7. Flash CWM-SuperSU-v0.87.zip
8. Reboot to system and Viola you have have a rooted install
But can you still unlock with Lazy Panda?
EDIT: I realize you can unlock with the RegawMod unlock, but I have no doubt HTC's unlock tool will work.
Try to lazy panda your new hboot
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Try to lazy panda your new hboot
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This is really the main(only?) concern.
Sent from my LTEvo
You are not correct. People are not saying "Don't do the OTA because you'll lose root", they're saying "Don't do the OTA because you'll lose the ability to S-OFF".
This happened with the Evo 3D. We had S-OFF for HBOOT 1.4, and then an OTA comes that upgrades to HBOOT 1.5. The S-OFF exploit was patched with 1.5, making it damn near impossible to S-OFF.
Seriously. If you're even remotely considering S-OFF, don't bother with applying the OTA. Wait for ROM devs to incorporate the OTA into their custom ROMs, because they will do it in a way that doesn't change your HBOOT or any other sensitive partition.
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You are not correct. People are not saying "Don't do the OTA because you'll lose root", they're saying "Don't do the OTA because you'll lose the ability to S-OFF".
This happened with the Evo 3D. We had S-OFF for HBOOT 1.4, and then an OTA comes that upgrades to HBOOT 1.5. The S-OFF exploit was patched with 1.5, making it damn near impossible to S-OFF.
Seriously. If you're even remotely considering S-OFF, don't bother with applying the OTA. Wait for ROM devs to incorporate the OTA into their custom ROMs, because they will do it in a way that doesn't change your HBOOT or any other sensitive partition.
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Sure you may lose the ability to "S-OFF" but in all honesty, with these phones I can do every thing with S-ON, that you can do with S-OFF, except i have a couple of extra steps. Honestly the only reason i would S-OFF is to flash the radios easier. but how many times do you acutually flash a different radio to your phone? I do about every time there is a new update.
This is really for the people the HTC and RegawMod Unlock. Lazy Panda ppl continue to heed the disclaimer. I have no desire to completly S-OFF, unless someone can come with with a compelling reason to do so.
HseloMein said:
Sure you may lose the ability to "S-OFF" but in all honesty, with these phones I can do every thing with S-ON, that you can do with S-OFF, except i have a couple of extra steps. Honestly the only reason i would S-OFF is to flash the radios easier. but how many times do you acutually flash a different radio to your phone? I do about every time there is a new update.
This is really for the people the HTC and RegawMod Unlock. Lazy Panda ppl continue to heed the disclaimer. I have no desire to completly S-OFF, unless someone can come with with a compelling reason to do so.
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Dude, just listen to LiquidSolstice on this one. DO NOT OTA an already S-OFF PHONE! Literally in a few hours we will probably have a stock / rooted ROM posted. Just have patience.
HseloMein said:
Sure you may lose the ability to "S-OFF" but in all honesty, with these phones I can do every thing with S-ON, that you can do with S-OFF, except i have a couple of extra steps. Honestly the only reason i would S-OFF is to flash the radios easier. but how many times do you acutually flash a different radio to your phone? I do about every time there is a new update.
This is really for the people the HTC and RegawMod Unlock. Lazy Panda ppl continue to heed the disclaimer. I have no desire to completly S-OFF, unless someone can come with with a compelling reason to do so.
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The compelling reason to S-OFF is the fact that HTC and Sprint are never made aware in the slightest that you have done anything to your phone. The Dev unlock runs and tells HTC and Sprint that you are messing with your device. If done correctly, S-OFF gives you complete unfettered access to your phone, and with the proper tools, you can ensure you don't have to deal with the warning text on the screen that almost criminalizes you for having the audacity to unlock your phone.
People who are S-ON and HTC Dev unlocked ultimately run into strange issues down the road. You just wait until full AOSP comes around. On the Evo 3D, it was a nightmare. Even on the One-X, they're having issues because their boot partition is still locked and they can't use custom kernels (though I don't think that's as much of an issue with our phones).
S-OFF is so easy to perform, and the ONLY type of soft-brick that sometimes happens when performing it can be easily fixed with a dedicated tool. There is literally no downside to being S-OFF.
HseloMein said:
with these phones I can do every thing with S-ON, that you can do with S-OFF
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I'd love to see you have the H-boot say S-ON and ***locked*** while still rooted
While your at it, go ahead try to remove the red HTC text as well.
HseloMein said:
Sure you may lose the ability to "S-OFF" but in all honesty, with these phones I can do every thing with S-ON, that you can do with S-OFF, except i have a couple of extra steps. Honestly the only reason i would S-OFF is to flash the radios easier. but how many times do you acutually flash a different radio to your phone? I do about every time there is a new update.
This is really for the people the HTC and RegawMod Unlock. Lazy Panda ppl continue to heed the disclaimer. I have no desire to completly S-OFF, unless someone can come with with a compelling reason to do so.
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Lol so much fail. Good luck with that bro. I'm keeping my s-off
No one should follow this guy. You better hope it doesn't come back to bite you in the ass.
And you sir are in denial.
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Rxpert said:
I'd love to see you have the H-boot say S-ON and ***locked*** while still rooted
While your at it, go ahead try to remove the red HTC text as well.
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And although this may seem like just a visual thing, I have a friend who sent his phone in Dev unlocked and they denied his Google Wallet claim to replace the phone.
He then got his phone S-OFF'd through LazyPanda, changed the bootloader text, and sent it in again, and granted, I didn't think it would go through, but they accepted it that time.
LiquidSolstice said:
And although this may seem like just a visual thing, I have a friend who sent his phone in Dev unlocked and they denied his Google Wallet claim to replace the phone.
He then got his phone S-OFF'd through LazyPanda, changed the bootloader text, and sent it in again, and granted, I didn't think it would go through, but they accepted it that time.
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Well that is a compelling reason for me, but i still think the 1st post is good for ppl that do not want to S-OFF after doing an HTC unlock. Im sure there are other users out there like me. The disclaimers and watermarks dont bother me in the slightest.
HseloMein said:
Well that is a compelling reason for me, but i still think the 1st post is good for ppl that do not want to S-OFF after doing an HTC unlock. Im sure there are other users out there like me. The disclaimers and watermarks dont bother me in the slightest.
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While I respect your choice, I must also respectfully disagree with it. Regardless of what I think, you did take the time to explain how to re-root, and for that, I can't fault you. Thanks for your contribution.
HseloMein said:
Well that is a compelling reason for me, but i still think the 1st post is good for ppl that do not want to S-OFF after doing an HTC unlock. Im sure there are other users out there like me. The disclaimers and watermarks dont bother me in the slightest.
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A recognized developer warning us should be enough reason.
OMG pbedard thanking my post? The world has just ended, lol.
Nice to see you again pbedard
Forgive me if this is a stupid question, but if you do accept the new update and lose S-OFF can you not just run the original RUU to get back to the release image which allows you to S-OFF again?
Once you apply the ota it installs a new hboot that blocks the current s-off method so keep that in mind. I don't know if running a ruu reverts the hboot.
Sent from my EVO 4G LTE
RoidPusher said:
Forgive me if this is a stupid question, but if you do accept the new update and lose S-OFF can you not just run the original RUU to get back to the release image which allows you to S-OFF again?
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Nope. Keep your hboot. It can be difficult if not impossible to downgrade hboot.
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HseloMein, would you mind editing the title of this thread (maybe add [S-ON] at the beginning) to indicate that it may affect the ability to get S-OFF in the future.
david279 said:
Once you apply the ota it installs a new hboot that blocks the current s-off method so keep that in mind. I don't know if running a ruu reverts the hboot.
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Is this fact or assumption on the HBOOT Update? I'm S-off and no damn way am I taking the update BUT I thought I'd ask just for general knowledge. Back on the 3D, while we did get the HBOOT update, at least if you were S-off before the HBOOT update you held on to that and weren't stuck like chuck with HBOOT 1.50.000, what a nightmare. We were able to downgrade the HBOOT as long as you were S-off but why go through all that pain. I guess the saving grace here is that we really do have a pretty good "official" Dev unlock that doensn't totally screw you like the half baked unlock we got from HTC for the EVO 3D.
I need to get the word out to any and all LTE owners I know to not take it before I can S-off their phones.... might be a busy rest of the week! :laugh:
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[Q] Just Bought Evo With Hboot 1.58 - Questions About Rooting, Unlocking, S-Off

I recently purchased an Evo 3d off Ebay (and got a really good deal with many accessories included). The seller said they got it as a replacement from Sprint and Sprint told them it would be refurbished but it came packaged like it was from the factory (new box, all the accessories, ect.) and it looks like it is in mint condition. The seller claims they only used it a few weeks before they sold it. So the point is I don't know if it was refurbished or not. I do know it has hboot 1.58 on it (not sure if the original owner did the OTA update or it was sent to them like that). Here is what I want to do. First of all I am going to activate it on Net10 (like I did with my previous Evo 3D that has a bad touchscreen now). I will probably do that step last in case something bad happens to the phone during the rest of the process of what I want to do. I would like to have this phone rooted, unlocked, S-Off (from what I have been reading the most confusing part for me) then run a custom rom that optimizes the speed of the phone (possible overclocking). I also want USB OTG functionality eventually but that is not an immediate concern.
My old Evo 3D (and I do mean old) was purchased the day Sprint first released the Evo 3D and never saw an OTA update so rooting, unlocking and S-Off were not too difficult (think I used the Revolutionary method). That phone now has hboot 1.4 and I am not sure what rom because I installed it a long time ago and stuck with it since. Another thing I am wondering is if I can pull the motherboard from my old Evo and swap it into the new Evo without any hardware issues or if it would be easier to just work with the new motherboard (I would save $7 because I wouldn't have to pay a network access fee for Net 10).
What I would like from you guys is recommendations on the best way to root, unlock and s-off this new phone I have with hboot 1.58. I would also like some recommendations on what roms to try (fast, non bloated and preferably with some form of Sense is what I am looking for). I know there are a few options for getting the phone where I want it but I am unsure which is the safest and least complicated route to take that has the least risk of permanently bricking my phone. Some posts I read on different message boards say one method will work while other posts say it will not work for 1.58 so I am a little confused on this.
Well I bricked my phone. Don't worry though because I did it on purpose then I followed the instructions here (starting where it says "Downgrade/Unbrick") and that gave my phone hboot 1.4. From there I used the "revolutionary" method (took a few tries) and I now have S-Off. I am still looking for rom recommendations. Also I am wondering is there any way (or benefit) to going back to hboot 1.58 with S-Off?
xxxjdoggxxx said:
Well I bricked my phone. Don't worry though because I did it on purpose then I followed the instructions here (starting where it says "Downgrade/Unbrick") and that gave my phone hboot 1.4. From there I used the "revolutionary" method (took a few tries) and I now have S-Off. I am still looking for rom recommendations. Also I am wondering is there any way (or benefit) to going back to hboot 1.58 with S-Off?
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Yes you can go back to 1.58. You just Need to flash it via the bootloader. I have a thread with info and downloads here: http://androidforums.com/cdma-evo-3d-all-things-root/648902-radios-hboot-firmware-all-downloads.hunk
You can also use an ruu: http://androidforums.com/cdma-evo-3...527-rom-update-utility-ruu-all-downloads.hunk
As for a rom recommendation, I was partial to pac rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2040832
I was in the same boat. Picked mine up for $30 on ebay and couldnt get htcdev.com unlock to work.
I did the brick/URT downgrade method with some help from Brian and mpgrimm2 but can also be done with the juopunutbear wire trick(which I am not familiar with).
If you are good at following instructions i put together a pretty simple guide through the user/unknownforce's ultimate recovery tool(URT) brick/downgrade method
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2794935
Negalite blurom would be a great ROM for you if you are looking for a sense rom
otto325 said:
Negalite blurom would be a great ROM for you if you are looking for a sense rom
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That's funny you bring that up because that is the rom I chose to install and so far I'm liking it. I am still wondering if there is any advantage to going back to the 1.58 hboot though.
xxxjdoggxxx said:
That's funny you bring that up because that is the rom I chose to install and so far I'm liking it. I am still wondering if there is any advantage to going back to the 1.58 hboot though.
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There's no advantage. All the bootloader upgrade really does is patch s-off methods.
You'll need 1.58 for most ics roms though. And 1.50 or below for jellybean roms.

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