Backing up - Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I know how to back up and restore apps, my question is restoring the theme and look so that all of the apps return to the same folders, wallpaper is the same, widgets etc. Is that possible after a full wipe?
Thanks.

Not really. Some of the settings might be saved but the rest you need to do on your own. You just gotta do it the once because you really don't need to do a complete wipe that often.
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Sorry. But not really.

I have been able to do it by backing up all user apps and system data in Titanium. Then Restore them all back. This should work but only if you are going from a rom with the same base as the new rom (ex. touchwiz to ics won't work). Also restoring system data has a tendency to cause problems in the rom eventually. The best way is to restore the apps and then recreate everything u had before.

You can do that but you might as well dirty flash at that point.
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How to restore data after wiping for rom?

Quick question. I am going to flash a new ics rom soon and have done things like this before, but I always am required to wipe everything before I do it. How do I get everything back after this? I know titanium backup can help with some of that, but not all. I want to do this in the morning before class and still be able to use phone normally in class. How can I do this? Thanks
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What kind of data?
With something like this
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ext.recovery.control&hl=en
I agree, what kind of data? All contacts should be synced with google and you shouldn't restore system data between roms, it can cause problems. I use titanium backup for all apps/app data.
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I use mybackup root.. no issues so far
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Why wipe data?

Since XDA will not let me post in the Android General because I don't have 10 posts, I'll ask here. So why do we have to wipe data/cache exactly when switching roms? I understand system obviously, and just know we have to wipe them all, but I've never understood why we have to wipe our data partition, but then restoring wipe titanium is just fine.. doesn't it just backup the data partition?
osuron07 said:
Since XDA will not let me post in the Android General because I don't have 10 posts, I'll ask here. So why do we have to wipe data/cache exactly when switching roms? I understand system obviously, and just know we have to wipe them all, but I've never understood why we have to wipe our data partition, but then restoring wipe titanium is just fine.. doesn't it just backup the data partition?
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You might be confusing what the "data" you are wiping...you are not wiping your personal data, just data associated with the prior rom. So when you go to a new rom you remove traces of the old rom plus anything that may be in the cache. Having old rom settings can interfere with your new rom. Your personal data (photos, music, etc) will still be there. You only need to restore apps.
Never restore system settings or apps with titanium backup.
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There are more than just apps in the data partition. ALL user settings are on /data/. Titanium only backs up apps.
The real reason to wipe data like the above post said is to remove conflicting ROM data
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You might be confusing what the "data" you are wiping...you are not wiping your personal data, just data associated with the prior rom. So when you go to a new rom you remove traces of the old rom plus anything that may be in the cache. Having old rom settings can interfere with your new rom. Your personal data (photos, music, etc) will still be there. You only need to restore apps.
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Yeah I think you're right, I've always associated data with apps only. What other data is out there? (not being smart, serious question lol)
Information that relates to the system level processes. Remnants that get left behind after clearing the different caches too.
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gcodori said:
You might be confusing what the "data" you are wiping...you are not wiping your personal data, just data associated with the prior rom. So when you go to a new rom you remove traces of the old rom plus anything that may be in the cache. Having old rom settings can interfere with your new rom. Your personal data (photos, music, etc) will still be there. You only need to restore apps.
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disconnecktie said:
Information that relates to the system level processes. Remnants that get left behind after clearing the different caches too.
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oh.. well now wiping makes more sense haha
osuron07 said:
oh.. well now wiping makes more sense haha
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Maybe this is to much to ask, but what exactly is in data/davlik/cache that is so harmful to new roms that they must be wiped? (I understand data more now).
osuron07 said:
Maybe this is to much to ask, but what exactly is in data/davlik/cache that is so harmful to new roms that they must be wiped? (I understand data more now).
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Data from another rom will conflict with a different rom and cause issues..different coding etc etc its quite a few reasons honestly..just wipe data,cache,dalvik cache and don't worry about why wipe unless u like force closes and such lol
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armyboy11b said:
Data from another rom will conflict with a different rom and cause issues..different coding etc etc its quite a few reasons honestly..just wipe data,cache,dalvik cache and don't worry about why wipe unless u like force closes and such lol
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Fair enough haha
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Never restore system settings or apps with titanium backup.
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Hi,
I understand why you would not restore system settings but not apps? User downloaded apps that titanium has backed up should be ok.
Thanks,
Bryan
I'm not talking about user apps. System apps. Do not back those up. The only system data that can be restored are SMS,call log, and mail.
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disconnecktie said:
I'm not talking about user apps. System apps. Do not back those up. The only system data that can be restored are SMS,call log, and mail.
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Oh ok thanks
disconnecktie said:
I'm not talking about user apps. System apps. Do not back those up. The only system data that can be restored are SMS,call log, and mail.
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I've been wondering that for a while, so with any ROM u can restore the data from the sms
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With the paid version of titanium backup you can restore SMS but I don't know about cross rom. Its worth a shot though.
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With the paid version of titanium backup you can restore SMS but I don't know about cross rom. Its worth a shot though.
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K will try as soon the new build of liquid ics releases, I will tell u if it works
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Good way to back up apps and data when flashing new ROMs?

Hey guys, I am using this awesome AOKP ROM that lately has had a lot of nightlies. I have found that going back into the play store and redownloading every app I wanted is kind of a chore and I figure there has to be a good way to back up my apps. Does anyone know one?
Also when I do reinstall my apps, all the app data (game progress user logins etc) are gone. How can I back that up?
And finally if I do back up the data from the apps, will that mess with my ROM at all?
I'm sure this is all pretty beginner stuff, but I suppose Im a beginner at android
Thanks in advanced!
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Hey you should use TITANIUM BACKUP fro google play for backuping ur apps and data...
Cheers..
If I help you then hit on thanks
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As priyesh103 said, you can use Titanium Backup.
Backing up and restoring app data should be safe in almost all cases but if you restore certain system settings you can mess things up if you change to another ROM or in some cases to another version of the same ROM. If you made a complete backup you can just try it. In the worst case you'd have to wipe or reflash, but since you have a backup that shouldn't be a big problem.
Titanium backup all the way! Buy pro if you have lots of apps. It also let's you backup and restore apps on any new phones you get, as long as its rooted.
Must have root app
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titanium backup for apps and data
sms and contacs backup apps are available in play store
you should also backup your apns via apn backup&restore from store

A word of advice for TiBu users [JB/CM10]

A word of advice to the the people using TiBu to restore apps onto jellybean:
I've seen many people having trouble restoring with TiBu especially coming from ICS. Even when I was still using my S2 LTE.
Give Rom Toolbox Pro a try. You can easily backup your apps and data as a batch, and restoring them is a piece of cake. Never had any problems.
Although it is considered better practice to restore apps without their data, as it could potentially cause instability issues due to bad data. I've always restored the data as well and, in my experience, had no issues in particular. Even when the data was originally ICS based.
Just throwing it out there.
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Isn't rom manager a collection of several apps in one? The back up interface looks identical to tibu but requires too much digging to get to.
They are both good tools but it seems like tibu is more flexible with app backups and is updated much more often.
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Zero problem restoring apps from GB, ICS, or JB (upwards each time) from TiBu here, on both my Galaxy Note and Nexus 7. Why N7? I moved TiBu data from another device there and installed it from there.
All fine. Normal caveats apply.. Must reboot for services/running apps to start, must recreate accounts, anything that needs to run as a service sometimes might even need to be manually ran, etc.. None of this is ICS/JB/TiBu specific.
Just don't restore system info between roms and there should never be a problem
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I've always used "My Backup Pro" since the Dell Streak, as apparently TiBu didn't play well with it. I never seem to have the problems people report with TiBu.
I always restore APK's first, reboot, then restore data to a FEW apps that I know won't be problematic...
I think you can use "My Backup Root" to try it free...
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While I own both the paid version of tibu and rtp I prefer using tibu for backups. It was made to do just that and it's the best at it IMO.
TB is by far the best backup app out there. The problem is not with TB but with the user who doesn't know how to use it correctly.
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TB is by far the best backup app out there. The problem is not with TB but with the user who doesn't know how to use it correctly.
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Most of the problems people report are due to user error. If people would rtfm and learn they would have a much better experience.
TB for life here.....a great tool set....period.....g

How do multiple ROM users switch so quickly?

I was wondering how do multiple ROM users switch between roms so fast. It seems so slow for me to always reinstall apps, login and password, for each rom. Even using Titanium with just data is slow because you need to spend time to reload apps.
Are people just using nandroid backups to switch and taking a new nandroid when there is a ROM update?
Just wondering how you guys do it.
Thanks.
Do you have titanium pro? You can restore apps, all in a row without having to tap buttons in between each app
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Titanium Backup Pro is your answer my friend. Also a lot of apps allow you to save/restore your settings. For example, I use Nova Launcher and I can save my desktop configuration, so when I switch to a new ROM, I'll first reinstall Titanium Backup and use it restore my apps in one fell swoop, and then I restore my Nova settings which restores my home screens, widgets, shortcuts, app drawer options, etc. Finally in the Messages app, I can restore my text messages.
That and I'm a big OCD nerd who enjoys starting over from scratch, so even without all these shortcuts it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to me. That's just me, though.
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I had read on some threads before that the best way is to save on data on Titanium and then reinstall your app from appstore then restore data only. Is this true cause that is what I would do but still took forever to restore apps from the Play Store.
Do people run roms from nandroid backups and just update the rom when needed?
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I had read on some threads before that the best way is to save on data on Titanium and then reinstall your app from appstore then restore data only. Is this true cause that is what I would do but still took forever to restore apps from the Play Store.
Do people run roms from nandroid backups and just update the rom when needed?
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I back up both the app and the app data and I restore the app and the app data together, all using Titanium Backup. I don't touch the Play Store at all unless I'm getting a brand new app, or if I've lost/corrupted one of my backups somehow.
If a restored app gives me trouble (very rarely), then I will uninstall the app, and then restore only the app without the data.
I don't know what you mean by "run ROMs from nandroid backups." A nandroid backup is like a system restore point on your computer. Like a snapshot in time of your ROM and never changes. So after you make or restore a nandroid backup and install even one app it will be different than your backup copy.
What you are using right now is your "system ROM" or "live" ROM if you will. Nandroid backups are just checkpoints you can activate again (restore) if your system ROM breaks or you made a change you want to undo.
Some people have more than one favorite ROM. So they will install a ROM, set it up to their liking, then make a nandroid of it. Then install a different ROM, set that one up, and make a nandroid of THAT. By doing this, one can quickly jump back and forth between multiple ROMs by simply restoring the appropriate nandroid. Having a bunch of nandroids can take up a lot of space, and if you don't rename or organize your nands it could get confusing!
Hopefully this answers your question?
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Is there any way to back up Google Apps data? I have 4 gmail accounts and it takes time to have to set them up each time.
System apps generally perform poorly from data restore and can actually affect the overall performance of rom. Gapps are considered system apps so I wouldn't count on restore. I've never actually tried it though
Only app I back up is my texts.... I do clean install each time.
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ssinn said:
Is there any way to back up Google Apps data? I have 4 gmail accounts and it takes time to have to set them up each time.
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Backup "Accounts" in Titanium Backup. It will save your accounts and passwords, then all you have to do is set up the apps again. I haven't had issues with TBP and backing up system apps yet, but I know it's not recommended.
fpineda101 said:
Do you have titanium pro? You can restore apps, all in a row without having to tap buttons in between each app
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I have titanium pro, but have not had to wipe data yet. Does the option to restore all apps and/or data come up? Been unable to find it in settings or preference. Little help would be appreciated.
mouf32 said:
Only app I back up is my texts.... I do clean install each time.
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Same here, well with the exception of Gameloft Games, I will Titanium restore those. I hate editing the build.prop just to get them.
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Anthonicia said:
I have titanium pro, but have not had to wipe data yet. Does the option to restore all apps and/or data come up? Been unable to find it in settings or preference. Little help would be appreciated.
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Tap the check box on the top of the main screen.
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I've seen various issues with people using Titanium backup for settings, creating all types of issues with new roms. Anyone have any thoughts on that? I also want to be able to restore everything faster from ROM to ROM, but am hesitant to use Titanium.
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Settings and system apps are generally not good to restore across roms. I've been using titanium for about 3 years now for user app/data and hardly have any issues.
Anthonicia said:
I have titanium pro, but have not had to wipe data yet. Does the option to restore all apps and/or data come up? Been unable to find it in settings or preference. Little help would be appreciated.
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You can also select batch from the preferences menu in tb
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CLEAN!!!!!!!!!
i switch roms like crazy and im runing cm10 right now im running it on a clean install so far only thing ive restored is XDA so i dont have to login and subscribe to threads again but other than that i dont restore anything else
I use system tuner pro. It has an option to restore apps and widgets to where they were on your home screens so you don't have to set it all up again. You can also back up or restore everything all at once with a 'one-click' option.
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If you use similar roms you can just format the system without affecting the data. But still it is better to reinstall everything. Also use titatium backup for all your apps and my backup root for your personal stuff. I change roms allot. Doesn't take too long.
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Titanium pro backs up all your accounts so u don't have to sign in with them all again. It also backs up texts, call logs, and WiFi access points.
Only thing I haven't figured out is for it to backup your home screens like some of the other apps listed.

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