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So I've read a bunch on this from all sorts of sites. I believe this to be possible, but need some help with the technical aspect of this.
I posted in the Thunderbolt section because it is probably closest to the Evo 3d, from a hardware standpoint, and need info on how the thunderbolt is configured.
I can get it activated that is not an issue.
A few questions:
1) How to get the phone talking to the network?
I've updated to the verizon prl, and when I *228 I get the verizon programming prompts, but It won't update programming due to not being activated.
2)Do you think the Thunderbolt radio will work with the Evo 3d?
2a) If not, would it be possible to merge the T-bolt radio code with the Evo radio code to create a hybrid?
3)Settings, would any know the ##3282# settings for the verizon network.
If you could post the non-personal info that would really help. Please exclude MEIDs, phone numbers, etc.
I understand this is difficult, I've also read the posts, "Why not just go to sprint?", I'm not interested in those responses. This is a challenge, and I'd like to complete it.
Dev's what do you know?
The sprint 4g network isn't compatible with Verizon's as sprint uses wimax and verizon uses lte so the radios would be completely different hardware.
In theory since sprint and verizon phone are both capable of useing the same cdma frequencies 1900mhz and 800mhz you should be able to get 3g working
The question becomes why would you want to use verizon if you cant take advantage of the 4g. And also why would you come here insted of just googleing your question
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Activate Sprint phone on Verizon, Altell, etc... Network. - PPCGeeks and it might help
And why wouldn't you post it in Q&A where it belongs or in the EVO 3D forum? I predict a short life for this thread.....
I did post in evo 3d, and it was moved to Q+A. Apparently the dev forums are to advertise Rom, kernals, etc. for the devs. Not actual development.
nutrulz said:
I did post in evo 3d, and it was moved to Q+A. Apparently the dev forums are to advertise Rom, kernals, etc. for the devs. Not actual development.
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No, they are to post development. What you're asking is definitely Q&A. Devs do spend time at Q&A. I see them answer questions regularly. What do you think the EVO 3D has in common with a Tbolt?
Aren't they basically the same phone, just with a second camera? Same form factor, processor, memory, etc?
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Aren't they basically the same phone, just with a second camera? Same form factor, processor, memory, etc?
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Nope. Totally different CPU. It's running a Snapdragon S3, as opposed the the Tbolt's S2. The memory is the same. More advanced GPU. Faster USB. The screen is a bit different because of the linticular 3D feature. The CDMA radio might be similar. If my understanding is right, he's gonna need to find a ROM from the Tbolt that's been ported to the EVO 3D so that the data will work since Sprint and Verizon use different device authentication for data service. I'm not even sure that's possible since the devices are so very different. If what they say is true, and the Tbolt replacement more closely matches EVO 3D specs, I think finding a ROM ported to the 3D will be easier, or possibly the tools to make it work across networks. As it stands, they just don't have a lot in common.
Well it can be done, just follow these steps:
1. Switch to Sprint
2. Load a Verizon PRL onto the Evo 3D
3. Enjoy until they kick you off in a few months for roaming too much.
Other than that, the only other possible way would be if Verizon added the ESN to their phone list, and the chances of that happening are..... well, zero.
Unfortunately, they do this so you can only get the equipment from either them, or by private seller (ebay,CL) and they can put more cash in their pockets. It may be possible to do this in about 10 years when everything is LTE, as (please correct me if i'm incorrect) the net neutrality laws do not allow carriers to limit the types of phones accepted on the network, and you can potentially switch 4GLTE sim cards between phones of different networks. Unfortunately (again), it seems that AT&T and Verizon are going to be using different frequencies for their LTE networks, so it seems that this idea won't work either. Looks like they win again.
Topher227 said:
Well it can be done, just follow these steps:
1. Switch to Sprint
2. Load a Verizon PRL onto the Evo 3D
3. Enjoy until they kick you off in a few months for roaming too much.
Other than that, the only other possible way would be if Verizon added the ESN to their phone list, and the chances of that happening are..... well, zero.
Unfortunately, they do this so you can only get the equipment from either them, or by private seller (ebay,CL) and they can put more cash in their pockets. It may be possible to do this in about 10 years when everything is LTE, as (please correct me if i'm incorrect) the net neutrality laws do not allow carriers to limit the types of phones accepted on the network, and you can potentially switch 4GLTE sim cards between phones of different networks. Unfortunately (again), it seems that AT&T and Verizon are going to be using different frequencies for their LTE networks, so it seems that this idea won't work either. Looks like they win again.
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GSM SIM cards aren't frequency specific. So long as the handset functions on those bands it should work. In Europe, Mecha of GSM, carriers cannot sell contract-subsidized phones so the SIM must work regardless of the band the carrier uses. LTE is a subset of GSM, and if the same rules apply, there shouldn't be an issue.
Yes it can be done, but the wimax would be completely worthless and it would require a ESN/MEID clone/donor device which is technically illegal other than a few remote clauses that are often read WAAAAY to loosely. In short, just wait for the device on verizon or switch. IF you really want to do it, there are folks that can step you through it if you google enough.
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Nope. Totally different CPU. It's running a Snapdragon S3, as opposed the the Tbolt's S2. The memory is the same. More advanced GPU. Faster USB. The screen is a bit different because of the linticular 3D feature. The CDMA radio might be similar. If my understanding is right, he's gonna need to find a ROM from the Tbolt that's been ported to the EVO 3D so that the data will work since Sprint and Verizon use different device authentication for data service. I'm not even sure that's possible since the devices are so very different. If what they say is true, and the Tbolt replacement more closely matches EVO 3D specs, I think finding a ROM ported to the 3D will be easier, or possibly the tools to make it work across networks. As it stands, they just don't have a lot in common.
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I'm really looking for a solution to the connectivity issue. I'm not worried about WiMax, just the 3g capabilities. I know I can get it added to the verizon db, and I already have Verizon service. I'm looking for real solutions, not "switch to Sprint".
Loonatik is on the track I'm thinking of. I know I need settings changes that I can make, but don't have the info for.
I'm NOT going to do a ESN/MEID swap, not worth the risk.
Topher227 said:
Well it can be done, just follow these steps:
1. Switch to Sprint
2. Load a Verizon PRL onto the Evo 3D
3. Enjoy until they kick you off in a few months for roaming too much.
Other than that, the only other possible way would be if Verizon added the ESN to their phone list, and the chances of that happening are..... well, zero.
Unfortunately, they do this so you can only get the equipment from either them, or by private seller (ebay,CL) and they can put more cash in their pockets. It may be possible to do this in about 10 years when everything is LTE, as (please correct me if i'm incorrect) the net neutrality laws do not allow carriers to limit the types of phones accepted on the network, and you can potentially switch 4GLTE sim cards between phones of different networks. Unfortunately (again), it seems that AT&T and Verizon are going to be using different frequencies for their LTE networks, so it seems that this idea won't work either. Looks like they win again.
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Actually, it is possible but not with a phone that uses a SIM to store all the configuration. It uses a different registration method than the phones that do not require a SIM. Besides, any phone not specifically designed for LTE won't support the 4G data anyway.
Hey guys, I feel like a big ole newb BUT whats the difference in the radios section between the CDMA listing and the LTE listing for the radios md5's?
htcdesirezgeorge said:
Hey guys, I feel like a big ole newb BUT whats the difference in the radios section between the CDMA listing and the LTE listing for the radios md5's?
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Diff between CDMA and LTE radios:
CDMA for voice and LTE for data.
Flash both if you want to update both.
Diff between CDMA and LTE radio md5's:
A lot of numbers and letters
Your device has 6 radios inside it. 2 cdma and one LTE. The cdma radio serves the radio on the snapdragon. The LTE serves the one on the mdm9600.
Honestly, I think its funny that they are being listed that way.
Being that 3G and LTE are on the same radio, and voice is on another
adrynalyne said:
Honestly, I think its funny that they are being listed that way.
Being that 3G and LTE are on the same radio, and voice is on another
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True.... but what else could you call them? The MSM8655 and MDM9600? I mean, the bootloader at least calls the one the MDM9K.... like anyone would just know what that is if they didn't know the chip models.
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True.... but what else could you call them? The MSM8655 and MDM9600? I mean, the bootloader at least calls the one the MDM9K.... like anyone would just know what that is if they didn't know the chip models.
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Hey that works for me
adrynalyne said:
Hey that works for me
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Me too, but do you think you get some stupid questions now? I can't imagine how bad it would get if chip numbers became the norm.
another (possibly) stupid question for you specifically, adrynalyne.
the radio downloads you always post in your radio thread (over at team bamf) have both radios rolled into one package, correct? you never link them as two separate downloads, so i assume this is the case.
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another (possibly) stupid question for you specifically, adrynalyne.
the radio downloads you always post in your radio thread (over at team bamf) have both radios rolled into one package, correct? you never link them as two separate downloads, so i assume this is the case.
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It doesn't take Adrynalyne to answer that. Yes, his radio posts include both radios as they appear in a given RUU.
Hey guys, I'm a noob, please don't hurt me
I'm an American living in Japan and I just bought my first smart phone...the EVO 3D (3G) for AU by KDDI...I'd post a link, but I'm not yet allowed.
Their non-3G network was CDMA...so I assume that their 3G is also CDMA....can anyone confirm that?
Under that assumption (CDMA), we're still waiting for ICS, so I'm wondering what you'd all recommend I upgrade my phone to while I wait. I'm not a fan of the stock Android 2.3 that came on the phone, and I'd really like ICS....but if there is something I could use now, that might be fine with me.
Also, what are the basic steps I need to follow, I found the sticky thread in the dev forum, but I'm not sure what stickies would apply to my situation. I'm guessing I'd have to start with a root kit, and go from there....but please fill in the gaps, thanks
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Hey guys, I'm a noob, please don't hurt me
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Is there evidence to confirm that ''noobs'' have been mentally assaulted for asking questions on this forum?
Just being playful after watching the required "noob" registration video
Lol I see.
Chances are that you will not be able to activate any CMDA phone from overseas on a network here in the USA. The big networks like verizon and sprint will not allow foreign IMEI numbers to be submitted to their system for activation.
Do you happen to know what frequency the cdma network you came from runs on? Look behind the battery
miahallen said:
Hey guys, I'm a noob, please don't hurt me
I'm an American living in Japan and I just bought my first smart phone...the EVO 3D (3G) for AU by KDDI...I'd post a link, but I'm not yet allowed.
Their non-3G network was CDMA...so I assume that their 3G is also CDMA....can anyone confirm that?
Under that assumption (CDMA), we're still waiting for ICS, so I'm wondering what you'd all recommend I upgrade my phone to while I wait. I'm not a fan of the stock Android 2.3 that came on the phone, and I'd really like ICS....but if there is something I could use now, that might be fine with me.
Also, what are the basic steps I need to follow, I found the sticky thread in the dev forum, but I'm not sure what stickies would apply to my situation. I'm guessing I'd have to start with a root kit, and go from there....but please fill in the gaps, thanks
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When I had AU by KDDI when I was living in Japan is was CDMA. As far as I am aware the Japanese version wasn't able to be rooted using the CDMA methods here in the development forum. Also the ROMs here would not work on your device and would actually need to be slightly modified to include files from your device to work, but you don't have an ICS ROM to use for replacing files.
私のEVO 3Dから送信される。
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Chances are that you will not be able to activate any CMDA phone from overseas on a network here in the USA. The big networks like verizon and sprint will not allow foreign IMEI numbers to be submitted to their system for activation.
Do you happen to know what frequency the cdma network you came from runs on? Look behind the battery
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I don't need to use it in the states...I live in Japan
dastin1015 said:
When I had AU by KDDI when I was living in Japan is was CDMA. As far as I am aware the Japanese version wasn't able to be rooted using the CDMA methods here in the development forum. Also the ROMs here would not work on your device and would actually need to be slightly modified to include files from your device to work, but you don't have an ICS ROM to use for replacing files.
私のEVO 3Dから送信される。
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Thanks Dastin, I guess I'll have to wait for something official
miahallen said:
I don't need to use it in the states...I live in Japan
Thanks Dastin, I guess I'll have to wait for something official
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That's kind of the conclusion I came to, after running through all the different root/unlock methods, I came across issues in every single one, and my skill / confidence isn't high enough to really make a go at figuring it out.
Only thing I haven't really attempted is downgrading from hboot 1.5 to 1.4, partially because my software version is different from the instructions, and soft bricking the phone makes me nervous considering the potential incompatibilities.
I think our phone is more or less the same as the sprint phone, just on the Japanese frequency. I'm hoping that the sprint announcement means we will also be getting ICS soon... but who knows
I've never flashed a phone to a different CDMA provider so I thought I'd ask here first and see if anyone had knowledge of how to do this? Or point me in the right direction to somewhere to learn how to? I've unlocked the GSM radio for use on att already and I'm sure it's a similar procedure, but I followed a guide to do this and have little experience with it. Thanks in advance to anyone that has information on this.
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Corutesy bump for wanting to switch the rezound I'm getting soon to Virgin Mobile.
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Also, how did you go about unlocking your phone? If you unlocked the gsm attenna. I assume that the phone is fully unlocked and you should just be able to switch it over. As long as it isn't on another account I.e. Verizon.
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anubis2k3 said:
I've never flashed a phone to a different CDMA provider so I thought I'd ask here first and see if anyone had knowledge of how to do this? Or point me in the right direction to somewhere to learn how to? I've unlocked the GSM radio for use on att already and I'm sure it's a similar procedure, but I followed a guide to do this and have little experience with it. Thanks in advance to anyone that has information on this.
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The CDMA providers blacklist phones from being used on other CDMA providers networks. "Flashing" in this sense is stealing and ESN/IMEI from an existing phone and cloning it to your phone. Not only is it extremely risky for your hardware, it is extremely against the law and cannot be discussed on these forums.
Certain phones like the Rezound and the Dinc4G have additional feature of GSM radios added for compatibility with oversea networks, you aren't really flashing anything so much as the phone reconfigures itself for GSM or CDMA depending on what kind of SIM card it finds.
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The CDMA providers blacklist phones from being used on other CDMA providers networks. "Flashing" in this sense is stealing and ESN/IMEI from an existing phone and cloning it to your phone. Not only is it extremely risky for your hardware, it is extremely against the law and cannot be discussed on these forums.
Certain phones like the Rezound and the Dinc4G have additional feature of GSM radios added for compatibility with oversea networks, you aren't really flashing anything so much as the phone reconfigures itself for GSM or CDMA depending on what kind of SIM card it finds.
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Umm. Not true at all actually. I had a P+ dealer switch over my phone with a bad esn (mother in law didnt pah her bill) and they didn't use a "friend" phone. It doesn't require stealing a phones imei or anything it requires a lot of work to port it to a different carrier, but doesn't require anything illegal. Not to mention what you're talking about is also based on the staye you are in. In the states it js legal as long as you aren't copying two have two phones on one service and is completely legal ( state dependant) if you own both phones. Check your facts.
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jameyscott said:
Corutesy bump for wanting to switch the rezound I'm getting soon to Virgin Mobile.
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Also, how did you go about unlocking your phone? If you unlocked the gsm attenna. I assume that the phone is fully unlocked and you should just be able to switch it over. As long as it isn't on another account I.e. Verizon.
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as far as using it on gsm networks, yeah its possible you just need to either do some things (I could dig up a link if you want) on stock and have it kinda work, or find a rom that supports it and flash that (recommended, what i'm gonna be doing). and flashing phones to other networks i am pretty sure is illegal, i know from experience, i tried to work that out on xda and they sent me away saying this isnt a topic allowed of these forums, so if you still want to know about carrier flashing i suggest another forum
but anyways just making sure i am following you right, you want to gsm unlock but want to use it on virgin mobile (a CDMA network?)
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as far as using it on gsm networks, yeah its possible you just need to either do some things (I could dig up a link if you want) on stock and have it kinda work, or find a rom that supports it and flash that (recommended, what i'm gonna be doing). and flashing phones to other networks i am pretty sure is illegal, i know from experience, i tried to work that out on xda and they sent me away saying this isnt a topic allowed of these forums, so if you still want to know about carrier flashing i suggest another forum
but anyways just making sure i am following you right, you want to gsm unlock but want to use it on virgin mobile (a CDMA network?)
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OK. Well it makes sense now why I'm not getting much help on this topic. Anyone know of a forum for this kind of stuff?
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It should be possible, I've gotten as far as getting the NV values on both radios, but it seems as the 9k wants to search for signal on 800mhz only, at least according to DFS.
The Thunderbolt is able to get 3g working on Boost/VM/etc. at least from what I've seen. Considering the similarity between it and the Rezound I was hoping it would be easier...
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blu422 said:
as far as using it on gsm networks, yeah its possible you just need to either do some things (I could dig up a link if you want) on stock and have it kinda work, or find a rom that supports it and flash that (recommended, what i'm gonna be doing). and flashing phones to other networks i am pretty sure is illegal, i know from experience, i tried to work that out on xda and they sent me away saying this isnt a topic allowed of these forums, so if you still want to know about carrier flashing i suggest another forum
but anyways just making sure i am following you right, you want to gsm unlock but want to use it on virgin mobile (a CDMA network?)
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Flashing phones to different networks aren't illegal. It is a state dependant thing. I went and had my note 2 flashed over at a business in the middle of a bestbuy, guitar center, more big businesses. (Aka, big businesses near ~ not a shady place)
Yes, I know that Virgin Mobile is CDMA. I wanted to know how to unlock the GSM antenna purely for education purposes.
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jameyscott said:
Flashing phones to different networks aren't illegal. It is a state dependant thing. I went and had my note 2 flashed over at a business in the middle of a bestbuy, guitar center, more big businesses. (Aka, big businesses near ~ not a shady place)
Yes, I know that Virgin Mobile is CDMA. I wanted to know how to unlock the GSM antenna purely for education purposes.
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well if it is by the carrier or carrier certified reps it isn't. and what that other guy said it works with DFS CDMAtool or I've heard of cdma workshop working good take a look here
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It should be possible, I've gotten as far as getting the NV values on both radios, but it seems as the 9k wants to search for signal on 800mhz only, at least according to DFS.
The Thunderbolt is able to get 3g working on Boost/VM/etc. at least from what I've seen. Considering the similarity between it and the Rezound I was hoping it would be easier...
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It is easy, but only to people that already know how to do it. The process is similar for most phones and doesn't require a lot, but most that try to do it dont know what they're doing and it takes them forever. What we need is a good electrical engineer.
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Quick update:
The Rezound can work on Sprint-based towers, at least with leaked global (4.03) and stock global (4.05) radios. It took me couple of days of fidding via DFS, but right now I do have 3G working, albeit with the stock ROM complaining that mobile data isn't working. Trying out couple of ROMs to see which ones is usable.
Most important thing is that the 8K radio needs to be set to NV_ONLY but that 9K can be set to RUIM preferred. Also, flashing the firmware (from the recent 4.05 global update) will reset the 8K radio to RUIM, which is a good thing/bad thing. Good thing is that if you ever want to NV reset (since hard resets do not seem to wipe NV), flashing the latest firmware/radio should get you back to RUIM/stock PRL/blanked #. Bad thing is you need to fiddle with some of the settings in DFS again, but at least it's only for the 8K radio so far.
Another thing that probably made it work was to use the same PRL from the phone Sprint thinks you are using. For me this was the 61009 PRL. Profile info only needs to get stuck into the 9K radio and I don't think you really need to bother with the NAM2 stuff. But again, I've done too many fiddling to be able to say for certain.
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I am sure we all know about the lack of support for CDMA on the OnePlus X. I was wondering if it is possible to create a sort of relay that uses a CDMA sim and broadcasts to a GSM phone and vice versa. I don't know if this is an existing thing, or possible, but I thought it would be an interesting idea to research. Does anyone know anything about this? Is it possible?
Thanks,
Lev
Also, sorry about my ignorance on this topic- I only received my OnePlus X today, and it is my first phone.
In fact you want to operate a GSM BTS (for your OPX), that will communicate with another BTS using CDMA frequencies.
So like 2 BTS, a laptop, and batteries in a backpack, just for using your OPX in CDMA regions.
Why not, you could do it with Osmocom I guess.
But, being more serious, OPX supports some WCDMA bands. If not sufficent, just buy another phone. Nobody will ever bother to work on that.
I was reading that two of the missing bands were software locked. Is this the case?
I just decided to attempt this as a school project, I was just wondering if anyone had any knowledge or advice they could impart. Other than the common, "You can't do it" advice.
Levalicious said:
I just decided to attempt this as a school project, I was just wondering if anyone had any knowledge or advice they could impart. Other than the common, "You can't do it" advice.
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I have a different one, "you can do it".
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I have a different one, "you can do it".
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Thanks XD