I have a very noob question that I was unable to find an answer to while searching the forums.
It seems that (understandably) the OneX development is much further along than the EVO LTE. My guess is that S-OFF will (hopefully) be achieved soon for that phone. My question is: how well will achieving S-OFF on the OneX translate to the EVO LTE considering the phones are, to my understanding, so much alike.
Will S-OFF on the OneX mean S-OFF for the EVO LTE shortly after?
Thank you ahead of time for answering my noob question.
JT114881 said:
I have a very noob question that I was unable to find an answer to while searching the forums.
It seems that (understandably) the OneX development is much further along than the EVO LTE. My guess is that S-OFF will (hopefully) be achieved soon for that phone. My question is: how well will achieving S-OFF on the OneX translate to the EVO LTE considering the phones are, to my understanding, so much alike.
Will S-OFF on the OneX mean S-OFF for the EVO LTE shortly after?
Thank you ahead of time for answering my noob question.
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the one x devs also had the phone way before us soooo yeah it just depends
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like any other htc phone... it will take some time... maybe a month or two before we get s-off!
Teamscrooge said:
like any other htc phone... it will take some time... maybe a month or two before we get s-off!
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maybe even a year. That't how long it took for evo 3d hboot 1.5
I think the HTC one x international ver has s-off but if the att one x gets s-off I think we will be right behind it assuming the flaw is in the chipset or something.
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IM debating whether to use the one step method regaw_leinad created for us which uses HTCdev.com or wait for S-off... I'm curious to know whether or not it changes the HBOOT to begin with?
JT114881 said:
I have a very noob question that I was unable to find an answer to while searching the forums.
It seems that (understandably) the OneX development is much further along than the EVO LTE. My guess is that S-OFF will (hopefully) be achieved soon for that phone. My question is: how well will achieving S-OFF on the OneX translate to the EVO LTE considering the phones are, to my understanding, so much alike.
Will S-OFF on the OneX mean S-OFF for the EVO LTE shortly after?
Thank you ahead of time for answering my noob question.
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different SoC's so not likely...if ATT OneX gets it then possible it translates over to us though...
Powerbird101 said:
IM debating whether to use the one step method regaw_leinad created for us which uses HTCdev.com or wait for S-off... I'm curious to know whether or not it changes the HBOOT to begin with?
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In the same boat. I'm dying to get rid of this bloatware and I have several apps that require superuser, but I don't want to hassle with un-rooting/re-rooting when an S-OFF method is released.
Though I must admit I'm still pretty new to all this. What does having S-OFF give us the ability to do?
firebirdude said:
In the same boat. I'm dying to get rid of this bloatware and I have several apps that require superuser, but I don't want to hassle with un-rooting/re-rooting when an S-OFF method is released.
Though I must admit I'm still pretty new to all this. What does having S-OFF give us the ability to do?
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Actually on thos phone s-on and s-off do the same things
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Can't recall the specific thread, but do some searching. People are able to do everything without s-off. We can flash ROMs, recoverys, even kernels. There's no real reason to get s-off because of this
jkt97401 said:
Can't recall the specific thread, but do some searching. People are able to do everything without s-off. We can flash ROMs, recoverys, even kernels. There's no real reason to get s-off because of this
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This is the thread you were thinking of. It explains why we don't really need x-off with this phone.
The only reason for S-off is if you don't want to void warranty then? It also looks like there will be a big hassle to get updates pushed to the device. I hope there is a leak of the Eng bootloader.
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The only reason for S-off is if you don't want to void warranty then? It also looks like there will be a big hassle to get updates pushed to the device. I hope there is a leak of the Eng bootloader.
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Even s off voids your warranty just no way to prove it per say and it isn't a hassle anymore as radios can be changed now...n same w splash screen's
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Right now everything can be done with S-ON EXCEPT flashing radios. Unlike older phones this one also lets you flash kernels with S-ON. I currently have just rooted the phone over stock so when a method is available I will be able to revert back to stock untampered bootloader in 15 minutes with an RUU wipe then completely S-OFF the phone.
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Right now everything can be done with S-ON EXCEPT flashing radios. Unlike older phones this one also lets you flash kernels with S-ON. I currently have just rooted the phone over stock so when a method is available I will be able to revert back to stock untampered bootloader in 15 minutes with an RUU wipe then completely S-OFF the phone.
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You CAN flash radios with s-on. See the following thread, post 2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1704612
Powerbird101 said:
Right now everything can be done with S-ON EXCEPT flashing radios. Unlike older phones this one also lets you flash kernels with S-ON. I currently have just rooted the phone over stock so when a method is available I will be able to revert back to stock untampered bootloader in 15 minutes with an RUU wipe then completely S-OFF the phone.
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Even if you run the ruu, the bootloader still will have the watermark "relocked" and the splash still says that other crap.
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Why are people waiting for s_off. Seems to me unlocked bootloader with s_on is perfect for the vast majority of root users. I know the first thing I did when I got the phone is head on over to HTC Dev. I really couldn't care less if s_off is never achieved.
I guess keep waiting but waiting for what I don't know
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corcgaigh said:
Why are people waiting for s_off. Seems to me unlocked bootloader with s_on is perfect for the vast majority of root users. I know the first thing I did when I got the phone is head on over to HTC Dev. I really couldn't care less if s_off is never achieved.
I guess keep waiting but waiting for what I don't know
SENT FROM MY EVO LTE USING XDA
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My sentiments exactly! You wanna wait for S-off go ahead you could be waiting for over a year like I did with my 3D and by then the new EVO will be released.
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Even if you run the ruu, the bootloader still will have the watermark "relocked" and the splash still says that other crap.
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If you use HTC Dev, yes you are right but he's talking about just rooting without unlocking the bootloader in which case the RUU will remove the "tampered" message.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671577
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Hello all,
I traded that sorry BB Playbook for a lovely Evo 3D. Now I want to root 2.3.5 and I have Hboot 1.5. There is a lot of information that I have combed through but its really confusing. I have a Nexus S and an Evo 4g rooted without issue, but EVO 3D appears to have too many ways to root and I'm not sure where to start. If someone can point me in the right direction it would be appreciated.
qhinton said:
Hello all,
I traded that sorry BB Playbook for a lovely Evo 3D. Now I want to root 2.3.5 and I have Hboot 1.5. There is a lot of information that I have combed through but its really confusing. I have a Nexus S and an Evo 4g rooted without issue, but EVO 3D appears to have too many ways to root and I'm not sure where to start. If someone can point me in the right direction it would be appreciated.
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Check the stickies of the development forum for how to downgrade your hboot, after that, use revolutionary to s-off your phone.
Better yet, here's the downgrade thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547695
qhinton said:
Hello all,
I traded that sorry BB Playbook for a lovely Evo 3D. Now I want to root 2.3.5 and I have Hboot 1.5. There is a lot of information that I have combed through but its really confusing. I have a Nexus S and an Evo 4g rooted without issue, but EVO 3D appears to have too many ways to root and I'm not sure where to start. If someone can point me in the right direction it would be appreciated.
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I would recommend htcdev.com for the official 1.5 unlock. Its easier and safer than downgrading your boot loader.
Vinchenzop said:
Check the stickies of the development forum for how to downgrade your hboot, after that, use revolutionary to s-off your phone.
Better yet, here's the downgrade thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547695
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Thanks kind sir
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jsp20 said:
I would recommend htcdev.com for the official 1.5 unlock. Its easier and safer than downgrading your boot loader.
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Dude please go back to sucking on your mothers nipple as you have no Idea what you are talking about.
@OP stay away from HTCdev.com do the downgrade it is well worth it in the end yes it does sound scary that you have to brick your phone to achieve h-boot 1.4 with s-off but it works 100% I have done the method and now sitting with an evo3d with h-boot 1.4 s-off running Meanrom with the Anthrax kernel.
spirithandler said:
Dude please go back to sucking on your mothers nipple as you have no Idea what you are talking about.
@OP stay away from HTCdev.com do the downgrade it is well worth it in the end yes it does sound scary that you have to brick your phone to achieve h-boot 1.4 with s-off but it works 100% I have done the method and now sitting with an evo3d with h-boot 1.4 s-off running Meanrom with the Anthrax kernel.
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Too funny. Tiddy milk
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spirithandler said:
Dude please go back to sucking on your mothers nipple as you have no Idea what you are talking about.
@OP stay away from HTCdev.com do the downgrade it is well worth it in the end yes it does sound scary that you have to brick your phone to achieve h-boot 1.4 with s-off but it works 100% I have done the method and now sitting with an evo3d with h-boot 1.4 s-off running Meanrom with the Anthrax kernel.
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Seeing as you HAVE to use the HTCDev method to unlock it in the first place, I would say you have failed. Massively.
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I recently had my EVO 3D replaced by sprint, kept rebooting randomly even after superwipe and flashing completely back to stock. Received a replacement with 1.5 hboot. I downgraded it just fine, never used HTCDev method.
Atomix86 said:
Seeing as you HAVE to use the HTCDev method to unlock it in the first place, I would say you have failed. Massively.
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Maybe you need to read unknownforces thread and you will see you also have the foot in mouth disease.
you dont need to do the HTC unlock method to downgrade the instructions I quite clear in unknownforces thread.
Atomix86 said:
Seeing as you HAVE to use the HTCDev method to unlock it in the first place, I would say you have failed. Massively.
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Well...this is embarrassing...
If you don't want to go through the process of downgrading. I reccomend
http://htcevohacks.com/htc-evo-3d-hacks/how-to-root-evo-3d-2-08-651-2-and-later-htc-unlock-method/
Painless and fast
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If you are new to rooting and not very computer savy I would recommend htc's unlock method it will give you root albeit with s-on. But if you understand Linux and are good on a computer. I say go ahead with the down grade by unknownforce. I'm gonna do it this weekend. It'll be nice to have s-off.
Vinchenzop said:
Well...this is embarrassing...
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Now, now guys. Let's give our neighbor across the pond the benefit of the doubt as he is on GSM and cannot downgrade boot using unknownforce's method.
OK, Im ready to root my new EVolTE, whats the best method to root giving me S-OFF? I might not flash any rooms for now, but will root just to get tether.
Any advice?
rooting
Right now the only way to get S-Off is to go to HTCdev and get it there, but that isn't "true" S-Off from what I understand, and rooting and S-Off are 2 diff things, to actually root get on youtube and search rooting evo 4g lte, there is a great vid there on how to do it, make sure you have a unzipping program first. it's a piece of cake
S-Off hasn't been officially hacked yet.
Hope this helps
You guys need to read this....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671577
Then this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1680928
Sent from my EVO 4G LTE
david279 said:
You guys need to read this....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671577
Then this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1680928
Sent from my EVO 4G LTE
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Evol lte doesn't have s-off yet. You can gain root without flashing anything and htcdev is so can install a custom recovery, which gives you ability to flash a rom.
I've been wondering about this myself. I haven't even seen any word on whether anyone is working on getting s-off for this thing. I've been hoping for CM9 to come to the new EVO eventually. Correct me if I'm wrong but don't you need s-off to flash AOSP? If that's the case then they probably wouldn't even start work on it until someone finds a way to get s-off. I just miss CM7 from my OG EVO and unfortunately there was never a fully working version for the 3D. I really considered getting the Galaxy Nexus but I couldn't pass up the HW specs on this thing.
HTC dev unlock is enough for aosp kush has a cm9 wip that boots
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Also imy guess to get s off will be similar to the junopbear method or.whatever where we have to short out the emmc by grounding it but idk if that same exploit would s off the bootloader ...
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We don't need s-off as much now. We can do a lot with the htcdev unlock. It will be nice to have though.
Sent from my EVO 4G LTE
david279 said:
We don't need s-off as much now. We can do a lot with the htcdev unlock. It will be nice to have though.
Sent from my EVO 4G LTE
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Yeah s off just makes things a little easier tho you ya know so I hope we get it before to long
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Yeah been wondering the same thing. I remember when the 3D came out we had a few bounties, two or three different teams and numerous individuals actively trying to get S-Off. Haven't heard from anyone trying to accomplish it for the EvoLTE.
s-off isn't needed, we can flash kernel and radios right thru recovery now, the only thing we can't flash are splash screens which isn't a big deal at all..
ticklemepinks said:
s-off isn't needed, we can flash kernel and radios right thru recovery now, the only thing we can't flash are splash screens which isn't a big deal at all..
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From what I remember from my OG EVO & 3D, I thought it was a pain in the butt & took a lot more steps to do as opposed to flashing those things with S-Off.
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ticklemepinks said:
s-off isn't needed, we can flash kernel and radios right thru recovery now, the only thing we can't flash are splash screens which isn't a big deal at all..
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Or can we?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1698337
One thing i don't understand is right on htcs website in the faq it talks about how the bootloader still has security enabled to protect the radios. If that's true how is it that we can flash radios? I thought htc specifically blocked that with their method.
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One thing i don't understand is right on htcs website in the faq it talks about how the bootloader still has security enabled to protect the radios. If that's true how is it that we can flash radios? I thought htc specifically blocked that with their method.
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More info here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1694589
Im already rooted, unlocked and running CM10. Title says the rest......discuss.
You have every reason not to take the OTA update.
Rxpert said:
You have every reason not to take the OTA update.
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Rxpert, can you please send me in the directions to acheive S-Off since i to have 1.15 hboot? I've looked all around no luck yet. Is it posssible to acheive S-off because of the 1.15hboot since LazyPanda isn't an option?:good:
There is no s-off for hboot 1.15 yet.
The reason you should not take the OTA is because there is a new hboot, which means it will probably be a very long time before you can get s-off on 1.19.
If you can hold out awhile longer, s-off should be possible on 1.15, then you can do whatever you want, update radio, etc.
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Cloaker said:
There is no s-off for hboot 1.15 yet.
The reason you should not take the OTA is because there is a new hboot, which means it will probably be a very long time before you can get s-off on 1.19.
If you can hold out awhile longer, s-off should be possible on 1.15, then you can do whatever you want, update radio, etc.
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Cloaker, do you have any reference to back up that hboot 1.15 s-off should be possible? I can't find anyone that is working on it. I've read others saying LazyPanda are working on it, but can't find that either. Just that s-off isn't possible on hboot 1.15 as well.
chewboxa said:
Cloaker, do you have any reference to back up that hboot 1.15 s-off should be possible? I can't find anyone that is working on it. I've read others saying LazyPanda are working on it, but can't find that either. Just that s-off isn't possible on hboot 1.15 as well.
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I know what you know, but if you look at the evo 3d and most phones, the pattern is that the first hboot is cracked quickly, the next one soon after, and the third takes a while(at least a year). There are still plenty of devs that haven't upgraded to the LTE yet.
Also, since htc has updated hboot again, has led many to believe on this forum that HTC found an exploit in 1.15 and patched it. With the phone this new, I bet s-off will be achieved with 1.15 relatively soon. But again, no sources, just my possibly flawed logic.
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If anyone knew 100% that it would be possible to crack it would already be cracked.
We are making assumptions bbased on the fact that HTC released hboot 1.19. They don't usually do that unless it patches vulnerabilities used to gain S-OFF
Does anyone know WHY HTC doesn't want us to have s-off? Even if we void the warranty doing it through their method. I would be completely satisfied if HTC dev let me have s-off.
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Cloaker said:
Does anyone know WHY HTC doesn't want us to have s-off? Even if we void the warranty doing it through their method. I would be completely satisfied if HTC dev let me have s-off.
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Because S-OFF gives you the ability to really screw things up. They are protecting you from yourself
I understand that logic, but at the same time I don't. If I want to mess up my phone, let me. If they don't want to cover it under warranty, I understand. But let me mess my phone up. Lol
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The problem is its hard to prove your phone is rooted once its really bricked. So they end up replacing it under warranty anyways.
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durandetto said:
The problem is its hard to prove your phone is rooted once its really bricked. So they end up replacing it under warranty anyways.
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What if they let us get s-off by providing our serial numbers? It seems like it would benefit them to let us get s-off via them. Then they could blacklist our serial numbers, if we do it, there isn't much they can do because as you mentioned, it's hard to tell once it's bricked.
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Cloaker said:
I understand that logic, but at the same time I don't. If I want to mess up my phone, let me. If they don't want to cover it under warranty, I understand. But let me mess my phone up. Lol
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I'm not saying I agree with it. :silly:
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I'm not saying I agree with it. :silly:
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Lol. Good.
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I'm 1.12 s-off. If I try to upgrade to 1.15 or above will I lose my s-off? Is there any reason or advantage to upgrade my hboot? I can update my boot, radios, roms etc with 1.12 so I can't understand why I would update. Explain please!
chadwick84 said:
I'm 1.12 s-off. If I try to upgrade to 1.15 or above will I lose my s-off? Is there any reason or advantage to upgrade my hboot? I can update my boot, radios, roms etc with 1.12 so I can't understand why I would update. Explain please!
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I can't think of any reason why you would, I think some roms might need it, but regardless, once you're s-off, it's permanent unless you actually try to go s-on through some dev's method.
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chadwick84 said:
I'm 1.12 s-off. If I try to upgrade to 1.15 or above will I lose my s-off? Is there any reason or advantage to upgrade my hboot? I can update my boot, radios, roms etc with 1.12 so I can't understand why I would update. Explain please!
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Theres never a reason to update your h-boot.
You dont want the newer ones
Cloaker said:
Does anyone know WHY HTC doesn't want us to have s-off? Even if we void the warranty doing it through their method. I would be completely satisfied if HTC dev let me have s-off.
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I wonder if one reason they close the exploits as fast as they can, and the reason their unlocker wipes the phone, is a liability issue their lawyers told them to do. So nobody can do this to somebody else's phone and access "sensitive data" or something.
pbarrett said:
I wonder if one reason they close the exploits as fast as they can, and the reason their unlocker wipes the phone, is a liability issue their lawyers told them to do. So nobody can do this to somebody else's phone and access "sensitive data" or something.
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The wipe is a pretty standard unlocking procedure. The nexus's do that as well I believe. Its a security thing
so i assume the way everything has been going we will get it in 2 months
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-deliver-jelly-bean-and-sense-4-upgrade-one-s-x-and-xl-month
Idk about "we" as in evo lte, but yes, one x and one s will...sprints probably going to be late, but I'm sure we can depend on the developers to pull something when its released
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Even if we get it, I'm still not not updating. Not until I have S-OFF...
Rocklee99 said:
Idk about "we" as in evo lte, but yes, one x and one s will...sprints probably going to be late, but I'm sure we can depend on the developers to pull something when its released
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Well from the history of this phone and one x we have been getting the updates about a month after...one can hope
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Very cool! Can't wait for JB! Sad how the OneX+ doesn't have 2gb Ram and 1080p screen....
bog3nator said:
Well from the history of this phone and one x we have been getting the updates about a month after...one can hope
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Yeah, but only fixes to problems. Nothing like this yet. We'll see if they pull through. Like I said though, either way, I'll be waiting for S-OFF.
I hope the focus on fixing the LTE issue with these phones before worrying about JB.
digiblur said:
I hope the focus on fixing the LTE issue with these phones before worrying about JB.
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That was supposed to be addressed in the last update. What problems are you having?
eXplicit815 said:
Yeah, but only fixes to problems. Nothing like this yet. We'll see if they pull through. Like I said though, either way, I'll be waiting for S-OFF.
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people that are stuck in s-on land (for now) make it sound like there phone is stuck in some sort of world where you cant do anything...you can still get updated radio, flash kernels and roms. hell awesome sauce kernel uses an s-on installer so you can flash in recovery, meanrom you can flash and it will flash the kernel for you (in recovery). to update your radio just relock, ruu, unlock, root, install...done! :cyclops: it is a few extra steps but your phone is not rendered usless...and all this talk i think is starting to scare people that it is. (just my 2 cents) flame on!
bog3nator said:
people that are stuck in s-on land (for now) make it sound like there phone is stuck in some sort of world where you cant do anything...you can still get updated radio, flash kernels and roms. hell awesome sauce kernel uses an s-on installer so you can flash in recovery, meanrom you can flash and it will flash the kernel for you (in recovery). to update your radio just relock, ruu, unlock, root, install...done! :cyclops: it is a few extra steps but your phone is not rendered usless...and all this talk i think is starting to scare people that it is. (just my 2 cents) flame on!
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Tell me about it. People have a fascination with S-off, thinking their phones will magically start doing something they haven't already been doing.
People listen and wake up, we can do the same thing as people with s-off do. We just have to go about it a different way.
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I heard that if you have soff your phone can make you pb&j sandwiches.
eXplicit815 said:
That was supposed to be addressed in the last update. What problems are you having?
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The LTE threshold issue on the EVO LTE.
om4 said:
I heard that if you have soff your phone can make you pb&j sandwiches.
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So that is why I wake up every morning with a sandwich next to my bed!
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shook187 said:
Tell me about it. People have a fascination with S-off, thinking their phones will magically start doing something they haven't already been doing.
People listen and wake up, we can do the same thing people as people with s-off do. We just have to go about it a different way.
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bog3nator said:
people that are stuck in s-on land (for now) make it sound like there phone is stuck in some sort of world where you cant do anything...you can still get updated radio, flash kernels and roms. hell awesome sauce kernel uses an s-on installer so you can flash in recovery, meanrom you can flash and it will flash the kernel for you (in recovery). to update your radio just relock, ruu, unlock, root, install...done! :cyclops: it is a few extra steps but your phone is not rendered usless...and all this talk i think is starting to scare people that it is. (just my 2 cents) flame on!
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Look, it's not that I'm stuck in some mindset that S-OFF is the key to everything. I understand that I can go through the HTCdev method, but I choose not to. My preference is S-OFF.
eXplicit815 said:
Look, it's not that I'm stuck in some mindset that S-OFF is the key to everything. I understand that I can go through the HTCdev method, but I choose not to. My preference is S-OFF.
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So you will just not root your phone till you get s-off? Bc when the phone first came out all there was, was HTC dev unlock. Sitting with stock Rom is no fun...
And if you are not rooted or rooted it maybe a few version of android before soff comes out (if it does) which will keep you on old software and really not take advantage of new goodies
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bog3nator said:
So you will just not root your phone till you get s-off? Bc when the phone first came out all there was, was HTC dev unlock. Sitting with stock Rom is no fun...
And if you are not rooted or rooted it maybe a few version of android before soff comes out (if it does) which will keep you on old software and really not take advantage of new goodies
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I get what you're saying. But my preference is to have S-OFF. I don't have to update right now. I'm sitting on 1.15, and just waiting. Granted, there are features that I'm looking for from Jelly Bean that I want to have, which is why I want to root my phone. But, if Jelly Bean comes before we get an S-OFF method, then I may just update and let it go to whatever is there. I'd prefer to have S-OFF though. That's how I've gone with my EVO 3D, so I'm accustomed to that method.
I understand, it is "easier" but there are a lot of people on xda now thinking it us the end if the world ... All I want people to understand is that there are work arounds. To each their own
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I can understand people not wanting to update due to S-on. I mean, OTA update or running RUU to update firmware will also update hboot, which someone who's been hanging in there praying 1.15 is almost cracked,..well the last thing they're gonna wanna do is update hboot.
Hell, accepting S-on and the workarounds may be the only thing to do. With the amount of hboot updates HTC is releasing, I have to imagine anyone working on S-off has probably already just thrown up their hands.
I'm S-off, but still haven't updated radio or firmware due to the fact that at this point, downgrading bricks.
Sorry for OT
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scottspa74 said:
I can understand people not wanting to update due to S-on. I mean, OTA update or running RUU to update firmware will also update hboot, which someone who's been hanging in there praying 1.15 is almost cracked,..well the last thing they're gonna wanna do is update hboot.
Hell, accepting S-on and the workarounds may be the only thing to do. With the amount of hboot updates HTC is releasing, I have to imagine anyone working on S-off has probably already just thrown up their hands.
I'm S-off, but still haven't updated radio or firmware due to the fact that at this point, downgrading bricks.
Sorry for OT
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The fact that HTC has updated the HBoot 3 times since the release of the phone doesn't make things difficult. If anything, it would indicate that HTC is finding holes in their HBoot, and just patching them as they update the software. There are a lot of people sitting on 1.15 right now waiting for something to happen. I'm sure there's someone working on cracking it, it's just a matter of time, and how many people are possibly working on it. I'd like to think that there is someone working on it, but it's still not being put out there that it actually is by anyone. That's what people are all up in arms about.
Not necessarily, they may be adding extra support for in-house development, adding support for extra hardware, or they could be just cleaning up the code from the last update
Does anyone know if the root tool weaksauce and firewater work on at&t m8 to get s-off ?
The root tool weaksauce shows it works on the verizon m8 version then your supposed to be able to get s-off with firewater.
Does anyone know ? I have the m8 at&t version and I would like to get s-off.
no it does not. they do not have the correct hboot files yet
drakeymcmb said:
no it does not. they do not have the correct hboot files yet
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So the weaksauce wont work with the at&t m8, but firewater will still work if you unlock the bootloader with htc dev first right ?
You do know that S-Off really isn't important.. You can still flash roms and get access to root and do all the other crazy things
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YoungAceAtlanta said:
You do know that S-Off really isn't important.. You can still flash roms and get access to root and do all the other crazy things
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It may not be to you but it is to a lot of the rest of us.
I like the freedom of not ever needing a computer which you never do with s-off.
Your not the first person to try to say that as it seems people like to say that when they dont understand what s-off means. If s-off was not really that big of deal then ask yourself why do the devs put in all the time and effort to crack it and get s-off if its as you claim not necessary ???? Why dont you ask the devs that question, maybe they can explain it to you so you can understand and comprehend it.
I have had s-off on every htc smartphone I have had since the first evo 4g and I have had a lot of them. s-on may be good enough for you and all you want, but not everyone is as content being s-on as you.
Uh this isn't the HTC One X days. You dont need a computer to flash roms or any other tweaks.
For as the devs.. I never said S-Off was useless I said it's not important as getting root and flashing roms which is probly the main priority to get access to first rather than S-Off.
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Firewater just got support...
https://twitter.com/firewaterdevs/status/452269087083614208
YoungAceAtlanta said:
Uh this isn't the HTC One X days. You dont need a computer to flash roms or any other tweaks.
For as the devs.. I never said S-Off was useless I said it's not important as getting root and flashing roms which is probly the main priority to get access to first rather than S-Off.
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Yeah if you always want to flash roms with stock kernels, most of us dont like the stock kernels so yes you would need a computer. Access was gained before the phones were even released, but if your content with s-on that is your prerogative to settle for that, as is ours to want s-off and not settle.
For the life of me I have no clue why people content with s-on always seem to question people that want s-off. This post has nothing to do with deciding is s-off is not needed by anyone, its to talk about gaining s-off.
If your happy with s-on then please go post on forums where others are happy being s-on...
designgears said:
Firewater just got support...
https://twitter.com/firewaterdevs/status/452269087083614208
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Isnt that only on the verizon version m8 though ? Not sure everything I have found on searches just shows the verizon version m8. If it works on the at&t version m8 now that would be what I"am wanting. Also I was told weaksauce only works on the verizon version also. Which weaksauce is supposed to let you switch back to stock very easily I think as easy as uninstalling the app. Now that is just pure genius.
I wish there was a one click root app for at&t, I'd use the toolkit but I have a mac
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Roefastford said:
Isnt that only on the verizon version m8 though ? Not sure everything I have found on searches just shows the verizon version m8. If it works on the at&t version m8 now that would be what I"am wanting. Also I was told weaksauce only works on the verizon version also. Which weaksauce is supposed to let you switch back to stock very easily I think as easy as uninstalling the app. Now that is just pure genius.
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yest it works on all M8 variants.
nugzo said:
yest it works on all M8 variants.
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Great, I see the s-off post is now added to the at&t m8 general section, thanks !!!!!!!!!!!!
Just remember, if you arent to confident in messing with firmwares etc. dont mess with s-off.. It can really screw up your device. If you know what you are doing, and what it does, then go for it!
Confirmed, Firewater works for att.
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Weaksauce didn't work for me, gave me a root failure error. I don't want to HTC Dev Unlock.
Those of you that have s-offed did you htc dev unlock first?
nick1313 said:
Weaksauce didn't work for me, gave me a root failure error. I don't want to HTC Dev Unlock.
Those of you that have s-offed did you htc dev unlock first?
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I used HTC Dev to unlock, used temporary boot image for recovery to nandroid + flash SuperUser, Then followed the protocol for firewater to gain S-OFF...running stock AT&T image now with root permissions. No 'Tampered' logo on my hboot
TheEmpyre said:
I used HTC Dev to unlock, used temporary boot image for recovery to nandroid + flash SuperUser, Then followed the protocol for firewater to gain S-OFF...running stock AT&T image now with root permissions. No 'Tampered' logo on my hboot
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Yea...I don't want to use HTC Dev Unlock. Just curious if anyone else was able to get it working without htc dev unlock.
Thanks though.
nick1313 said:
Yea...I don't want to use HTC Dev Unlock. Just curious if anyone else was able to get it working without htc dev unlock.
Thanks though.
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Do you just not want your device to be logged or something?
TheEmpyre said:
Do you just not want your device to be logged or something?
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I got burned on the M7 with that and the camera issue. Even though the camera issue was a known F up on HTC's part, they tried to charge me 200 bucks to fix it because I was unlocked. Only way they knew I was unlocked was because of HTC Dev, because the device was sent to them completely stock. I ruu'd back to stock before sending it to them.
This is my work phone, so I don't pay for it, therefore I'd like to be able to hide the fact that I've knowingly "voided" the warranty.
PS. I complained enough and got up high enough the food chain that they offered to fix my phone, however by then my digitizer died and the M8 came out.
nick1313 said:
I got burned on the M7 with that and the camera issue. Even though the camera issue was a known F up on HTC's part, they tried to charge me 200 bucks to fix it because I was unlocked. Only way they knew I was unlocked was because of HTC Dev, because the device was sent to them completely stock. I ruu'd back to stock before sending it to them.
This is my work phone, so I don't pay for it, therefore I'd like to be able to hide the fact that I've knowingly "voided" the warranty.
PS. I complained enough and got up high enough the food chain that they offered to fix my phone, however by then my digitizer died and the M8 came out.
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Ah thanks for the heads up! Guess I'm hosed if something goes wrong!