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So I was one of those who was finding my battery life to not be sufficient on the Photon and bought the Seidio extended battery. First thought is that it does make the phone heavier, but I can deal with that. Not a deal breaker.
My issue is that the Photon doesn't recognize the fact that I now have the extended battery. I've spent the last two days using Battery calibration software (charging overnight to 100%) and then trying to discharge completely and recharge. The problem is that the phone continually is showing 1% for almost 3-4 hours if not longer. I can't get it to recognize that there is more juice in there.
While it's great that it seems to be working well (first real work day with it today), having the battery drain like mad (or seemingly) and then sitting at 1% for half or more of the day and not knowing when it will die is a problem.
I wonder if this is why the stock seemed to drain so quickly - maybe it's a programming bug? Firmware bug? I dunno. In any event, any suggestions on how to make the phone actually see that there's more juice would be great.
As an FYI I've used "Battery Calibrator" - both of them and Battery Drainer and Fast Discharge to get the phone down. I am rooted, but everything is stock other then the root itself.
I spoke with Sedio - they said I should unroot the phone and do a master reset. I can't believe that would make it work better - but I'd rather ask this community first.
Thanks!
Check in the accessory forum there is a couple things on the Seidio battery and some people there that have them may have run into the same issue and have a fix for it.
Can't seem to find a thread where people talk about aa problem with it. Can you point me in the right direction?
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I meant about the battery not that specific problem. If you post there they may have had a similar issue
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Ahh.. Ok - actually someone on AndroidCentral just responded indicating the same issue on a non-rooted phone.. I'm gonnna try doing a full restore to see if that helps..
Yeah. Give that a shout and let us a know if it helps.
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have this battery, after the initial eight cycles allow nearly complete discharge, allow to charge for at least two hours after phone indicates battery is fully charged..... my battery is working very well, just use a battery indicator from the market, I didnt piss around with any battery calibrators, think this might be your problem, have never used a calibrator on any of my phones with extended batteries. Android market probly has an app to wipe your ass.....do you really need it? Hope the analogy is clear to you.
LOL fair enough. I did do the full flash this morning - so I'm unrooted.. Hasn't seemed to help - drain looks the same.. Been through about 6 full cycles since I got the battery. What battery indicator program are you using? I have battery circle and it's got the same issue.
Again - battery lasts just fine - but the amount of power left is never accurately indicated to me - and that's the problem.
I have had many Seidio Batteries, dating back to the OG EVO. The problem I have with this particular battery is this: These batteries work "properly" when charged on an Independent Charger, NOT inside the phone. If you Cycle/Discharge/Charge with this Battery on an External Charger, the Battery should calibrate correctly. I still believe the issue with charging within the phone, is that the Mopho doesnt accurately measure the Battery Capacity. Try and External Charger, should solve your problems....
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Battery def is charging fully as I get tons of life - the MoPho only shows 1% left though for hours on end.. It's a matter of it doesn't see the correct amount of juice left. As per cutter2668, it may just be a situation of discharge - charge. Dunno.
As an FYI I did the full flash this morning, and I haven't really seen a difference in the phone telling me how much batt life I had left. I'll give it another day and hopefully after a period of time it will start reflecting a true number.
I have also emailed Seidio support directly on the issue.
So as an update, seidio is going to be sending along a new battery to see if that solves the issue. I guess we will see!
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Keep us posted and let us know how it goes.
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Don't know if said already but used battery monitor widget pro can be found on apktop or 4shared if can not find it let me know
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For free?
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So as an update, seidio is going to be sending along a new battery to see if that solves the issue. I guess we will see!
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Any luck on the new battery? Just noticed my extended battery is doing the same thing. :-(
So things still aren't working right. Battery shows 1 percent for half my day and the Photon just doesn't know. However, I read a thread on Amazon about a generic extended battery and someone suggested using Battery Monitor and using Voltage Based monitoring. Its certainly not perfect but it gives you a somewhat accurate reads on remaining battery. I truely wonder if this is OS or a hardware limitation.
Oh well.
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Why doesn't anyone wipe the battery stats from recovery (only available if you have CWM recovery)?
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Why doesn't anyone wipe the battery stats from recovery (only available if you have CWM recovery)?
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I did with bootstrap recovery this morning, no difference. Sitting at 1% for the last couple of hours.
budney said:
I did with bootstrap recovery this morning, no difference. Sitting at 1% for the last couple of hours.
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Maybe this is an Android issue, I've read the LG Optimus S has the same problem with extended batteries.
I dont know if i just have a bad battery in my phone but ive had it about a week now. No matter how much i use it even if i dont use it at all i can pull it off the charger at 7am and by 1030 or eleven its dead. Ive tried multiple roms to see if it helped but nothing. So my question is do droid x batteries work for this phone too? Ive been searching amazon for extended batteries and it seems like most are for droid x but some say that they are for both. Also does anyone else experince this? With the way the battery is on 2.3.4 i go from full to 15 percent out of nowhere. Im hoping an extened battery will at least allow me to get a full day of work out of it. If someone could link me to a good battery theat they have used that would be great too. Thanks.
Are you heavily calling, texting, gaming, etc during the time your phone's battery is rapidly gaming? Do you have your brightness turned all the way up? Do you allow account synching in the background? All of these are the main causes of battery drain, though they shouldn't drain it quite that quickly. You could very well have a bad battery. Try downloading app/widget battery left, charge up to 100%, and check the voltage on the battery. If less than 4.2 volts, it could mean a battery issue. However even if at 4.2, I can't gaurentee battery health.
Yes, Droid X batteries do in fact work for our phones. I'm actually using the Trident Electra case and battery meant for the X. I highly recommend it, I love the battery life (3 or so days without charging) and the protection the case offers.
Hope I could help!
Yea I hardly use ny phone for calls. And text. Mainly emails and just browsing the forums from time to time. But I manually sync my accounts. Just for this reason. But I have nevr seen anything like this. I have battery minored widget pro voltage is fine the graphs are hilarious to look at since the phone will go from 100 to 93 then drop knew by one to 80 then it drops to 47 and with a half hour of that its at fifteen and as soon as the low battery indicator comes on I hit ok and a minute later its dead.
Well hopefully problem solved ordered a two battery combo with wall charger. 3500mah
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Dead like your phone shuts off? Or the phone % tells you its dead? My extended battery has never read correctly, right now its shows 1% at 3.997v thats most of a charge yet
from my X2 roaming the north
I'm having some problems to. Today was the first day I really kept track of how fast my battery drained itself and my God, I feel like my phone should win an award for most juice lost in 4 hours.
I downloaded Easy Battery Saver from the market and started to use a battery widget to monitor my battey life and it honestly seems like the app is working. Give it a try and see how you like it.
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BH5X
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So my question is do droid x batteries work for this phone too?
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I was under the impression that both the X and the X2 used the same battery (BH5X).
If I am wrong, someone please correct me...
They use the same battery. Have you tried calibrating? Charge to 100% then go to spare parts> battery info> then battery voltage. What is it?
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What frequency do you have your email to check. If you have your email on push then the battery will die a lot faster also. I can kill my battery in 4 hours with non stop use. Orbit baby's it 15 he's has been my best. And yea the x and x2 use same battery my spare is from my Droid x and they are the same part number.
Thanks a lot for all the help guys I got the extended battery which helped a little. But I sold the phone already. Couldn't handle being so restricted.
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I'm running cm7 this is with my normal use.
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I'm running cm7 this is with my normal use.
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That's awesome there was definatly something wrong with that phone/battery.
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I got the extended battery and get half the life out of it. Can anyone tell me why this would happen? I have eclipse 1.3, speedy v7, cdma unthrottle mods, and froze battery manager. I've also done a battery calibration and it still dies after a few hours. But i was getting about 12 to 13 hours on my stock battery.
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Have had this 3500mAh battery from Hyperion for about a week. I did all the steps but its still giving me crap battery life. I tried emailing Hyperion but they won't respond. Can anyone help? Look, I'm not lying.
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Have had this 3500mAh battery from Hyperion for about a week. I did all the steps but its still giving me crap battery life. I tried emailing Hyperion but they won't respond. Can anyone help? Look, I'm not lying.
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All I can offer is my personal experience w/the TREXCELL 3500 battery that I use. It lasts anywhere between 12-16 hrs. w/moderate to heavy use. I run w/auto sync & PERFORMANCE MODE selected in the battery section of SETTINGS.
For $20-$25,it's one of the best battery bargains you'll find anywhere.
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Have had this 3500mAh battery from Hyperion for about a week. I did all the steps but its still giving me crap battery life. I tried emailing Hyperion but they won't respond. Can anyone help? Look, I'm not lying.
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I've noticed that my Hyperion is hit or miss. Some charges, I'll get 33 hours on a single charge, others like today, I'm at 67% after 5 hours. What do we really expect for like $15?
Personally, my fav battery so far is the Akner 1600. It's smaller than the stock one, but I get around 10 hours with pretty decent usage.
I'm not able to see your picture. Either my job has probably started blocking those attached images (highly possible ).
I haven't had much of an issue with my battery, but I have noticed that it gets hot easily. That may be something you'll want to watch out for in the future. Also, does your phone show the battery in 1% increments or is still stuck on the default 10% jumps? If so, when you hit 5% or 1% it may just sit there for hours while still draining. I'm only asking this because I can't see your picture, I don't know what it shows.
Simply put, I use my phone... ALL THE TIME. I can barely make my battery last 4 hours with all the WIFI and YouTube and texting.
This stock battery just isn't enough. Anyone have a recommendation for the battery with the longest life?
Ofc at a reasonable price.
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http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...int-motorola-photon-4g-with-battery-door.html
I'm sure you can find it elsewhere cheaper.
FYI all the 'extended batteries' that are the same size as stock suck.
It isn't size I want. Photon is slim as it is. I don't mind adding a few mm of thickness for a boss battery
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XxCE0xX said:
It isn't size I want. Photon is slim as it is. I don't mind adding a few mm of thickness for a boss battery
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The TREXCELL 3500 is an excellent battery that'll last all day w/moderate to heavy use.
Can't beat the price, approx. $20-$25,might find them even cheaper on eBay or AMAZON right now, saw it for $15 on one of those sites.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23171366
I'm about to post my review for this battery.
I have been using a seidio innocell battery on my photon for the last 3 months. Let me first tell you that I watch a lot of videos on my phone. The 3g is on constantly. Or Wi-Fi. The average times for discharge of battery from 100% to 0% is 16 hrs. Also I don't let my battery go below 5%. So, from personal experience I can say that this is a great battery. But it's a bit expensive. You could try other brands like Hyperion which are cheaper.
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hi, what battery status app you use with the seidio extended batt ?
my battery indicator is not accurate when i use the seidio extended batt
10-Dee-Q said:
hi, what battery status app you use with the seidio extended batt ?
my battery indicator is not accurate when i use the seidio extended batt
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I use battery indicator pro. It displays the battery percentage perfectly.
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I can recommend Hyperion's 3500 mAh batteries, they work great. I have two simply because I may not be able to charge my phone everyday. I'm a very heavy user and never any access to wifi. Each battery can get me through most of a day. I spend my entire day stressing the heck out of my phone. During the few hours going to work, being at work and going home or to another job.
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I can recommend Hyperion's 3500 mAh batteries, they work great. I have two simply because I may not be able to charge my phone everyday. I'm a very heavy user and never any access to wifi. Each battery can get me through most of a day. I spend my entire day stressing the heck out of my phone. During the few hours going to work, being at work and going home or to another job.
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Good to know about the hyperion batteries. Was originally thinking of buying them,but the few reviews that I read were not totally positive. So opted for seidio,which is a little more expensive than hyperion.
How is the quality of the back cover that is provided along with the battery?
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So since yesterday, my seidio battery has been acting very strange. While charging it goes from 50% to 100% in a flash and while discharging also, the same thing happens. Can any once suggest any remedies?
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Hi, I have a problem with my Ace. When I only use 2G and use my phone for calls/sms, my battery lasts for like 3 days. But if i have 100% full battery and I use the internet with (or without 3G), my battery lasts for like half an hour, drains from full to 0 and then phone turns off. If i turn on my phone again, it shows like 30% or more battery left, but if data connection is still on, I lose 1 percent in like every second.
This is not only with data connections. I drained my battery from 100% to 0 in like 1,5 hours with just looking some pictures and using the calculator. I would like to think my battery is dead, but it lasts like 3 days when used for calls/sms only.
I have tried recalibrating my battery many times, used different ROMs (stock and custom), still same.
Is there anything else I could do to check my battery status??
Anyway, I am looking for a new battery but not the original one. Im looking from eBay. I contacted the sellers and asked for the weights. Original battery weighs like 30g. I got replied that these two (2050mAh High Capacity Replacement Battery for Samsung Galaxy S5830 and aoonen 2PK NEW Li-Ion Battery for Samsung S5830 Galaxy ACE 1800mAh fast shipping) batteries weigh 50g and 60g. This makes them less likely to be the fake gold ones, or what do u guys think? Has anyone bought one of those batteries? Or can anyone recommend a battery with more capacity than the original one (1350mah)
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I'm 100% sure that something is wrong with your battery.
I've never heard about such long-life battery in Galaxy Ace.
3 days calls and texting ?
It's normal that battery drains faster when using mobile data, but not that fast.
If You can, ask a friend to borrow You battery from Galaxy Ace.
If everything will be okay then You'll know the naswer.
If other battery won"t last longer, then i suggest to check you phone for "short circuit".
Maybe something is wrong with your motherboard that is connected with 3G .. ?
okay thanks, can I use the battery from S5830i?
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okay thanks, can I use the battery from S5830i?
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I believe so, they both use the same sized battery (1350 mAH, Li-ion Batteries)
Though I may be wrong someone correct me if I am wrong.
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Hi,
I just bought two gold extended life (2450mAh) batteries for my Ace! I was meaning to test them against the stock one but hadn't got around to it yet. Didn't use the stock battery much as I think it's original to the phone which I recently bought 2nd hand.
If anyone wants me to do this test (properly) let me know.
Thinking about this; perhaps a few Ace owners could flash a common ROM and perform a standard discharge test. This would give us some baseline.
Regards,
MT
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Hi
Im my SGA I have the same problem, usually lasts a day, using net 60% disappears in half an hour. Could be the browser configuration ? or the conditions of access to the network?
Is it's the browser, wich one is the best?
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Im my SGA I have the same problem, usually lasts a day, using net 60% disappears in half an hour. Could be the browser configuration ? or the conditions of access to the network?
Is it's the browser, wich one is the best?
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My batter is two years old and it works good.
I use CM7 and no super widgets. Maybe it saves energy.
Try another ROM, remove or switch off everything You don't need.
Maybe it will help You. If not, it's time to buy another battery.
Don't ask which browser is the best, because we don't know what You need.
I need my browser to browse websites. I don't use favourites on mobile phone, so everyone is the best.
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Hi,
I just bought two gold extended life (2450mAh) batteries for my Ace! I was meaning to test them against the stock one but hadn't got around to it yet. Didn't use the stock battery much as I think it's original to the phone which I recently bought 2nd hand.
If anyone wants me to do this test (properly) let me know.
Thinking about this; perhaps a few Ace owners could flash a common ROM and perform a standard discharge test. This would give us some baseline.
Regards,
MT
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There's an app called "Battery Drain". Try charging your phone to 100%, turn on Battery Drain and select everything except Vibrate, and let us know how long it takes to fully discharge.
I have a stock battery, and it lasted ~3 hours.
Myth
Hi.
Nothing works in my ROM, most of apps are useless (all?)
Changed to LastMyth, after some days I'll be back to share the experience
try to delete the battery.stats
real myth
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try to delete the battery.stats
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Hello Jenson.
Sorry to desapoint you but de advantage of deleting battery stats is a Myth [not The Lastmyth] :cyclops:
See this
I re-installed ZDBox (old version) and helps a little, probably have to use a kernel
let's wait and see
For clearing ram Try Fastreboot
It's an app n will not run all time like other task killer apps and widgets
just click on icon it will clear ram
The gold high-power batteries for this phone.. are they any good?. If you have bought one can you please give some kind of feedback on them as I am considering buying one. Stock battery just doesn't cut the mustard.
Thanks.
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The gold high-power batteries for this phone.. are they any good?. If you have bought one can you please give some kind of feedback on them as I am considering buying one. Stock battery just doesn't cut the mustard.
Thanks.
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Hi, if you use search you'll find lots of information, such as:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098513
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1702524&page=2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1783344
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1702524
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1877831
everything is inconclusive, except that there are advantages to using the stock
I have tried many ways to calibrate it and my conclusion was that this broken.
I compare it with another and mine is somewhat swollen
New battery on the way
Wow, just too many variables! For instance.. Any idea how many mA the vibrator uses when typing with haptic feedback? What about the extra battery used by the radio when your in a poor reception area, does my micro-sd use more power than yours? Etc.
Battery life comparisons will only be meaningful in conditions where the battery is the only changed variable. So i would charge two or more batteries; discharge one, then another, measuring the times. Both batteries would need to be new unless you just want to compare something tired and worn with just out the factory.
Not 100% but I think it's relevant how many amps you take at a time, in relation to total capacity.. The chemical tech. may be difference, but lead-acid cells give differing amounts of charge dependent on temperature, and rate of discharge. In most applications capacity (C), is measured over 20 hours (C/20). C/100 will see many more amps capacity, and C/10, fewer! Also consider a used battery could last a considerable time, if only the high drain occasion is minimal. Something simple like the vibrator could send an old battery 'over the edge' if the drain is too high.
What does all this mean to me? Unless you wanna spend hours discharging your phone battery finding out (not really), get a fresh battery online; they still don't cost much and are easy to find. Gold batteries have been available for some time so go with your gut on that one! Perhaps, like me, you think it's worth the risk.
If you really love your phone and think you'll still be holding on to it in a couple of years time - you'll be thankfull you bought a spare battery or two while they were still cheap
Peace!
-mt-
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Hello, problems of battery are the most important in the management of smartphones increasingly sophisticated. I know of no silver bullet, so it makes sense to always have an alternate (note that battery life depends on time, even without use)
I found a small application, very cool, which is PowerTutor, which gives us interesting information from the battery usage. However'm with JuiceDefender Ultimate (free version exists). The only application which effectively spare battery was Greenpower. [all in gplay]
I hope I helped
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Hi, new battery from ebay :laugh:, now lasts a day under normal use and a day and a half with little use of the internet.
Not bad for the low price
Seems that lastmyth that is not worse than the others in the use of battery.
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Hi, new battery from ebay :laugh:, now lasts a day under normal use and a day and a half with little use of the internet.
Not bad for the low price
Seems that lastmyth that is not worse than the others in the use of battery.
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This is usually the fix. It's amazing how fast some batteries start failing. Old batteries and cold temperatures are usually the top cause of poor battery life, especially in secondhand phones.
Try Juice Defender :thumbup:
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