Hi,
Concerned that the SIII's max brightness is much dimmer than competing phones. Iphone 4, 4s, HTC One x, are all about 500 nits.
The SIII's is only around 330.
Is this an issue?
I do like bright screens, and I suspect that the dominant reason for the battery life being better on the SIII is simply that the screen isn't as bright.
Thanks
lamenramen said:
Hi,
Concerned that the SIII's max brightness is much dimmer than competing phones. Iphone 4, 4s, HTC One x, are all about 500 nits.
The SIII's is only around 330.
Is this an issue?
I do like bright screens, and I suspect that the dominant reason for the battery life being better on the SIII is simply that the screen isn't as bright.
Thanks
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Yes, the colour contrast makes the phone brighter than original, due to the Amoled screen. You won't really notice a difference unless you compare them side by side in a dark room.
Man i can't look at the screen at full brightness it's too bright and only use when outside in sun. Normally keep it half or slightly more. However i found auto to be not too effective as it makes screen too dim.
sak500 said:
Man i can't look at the screen at full brightness it's too bright and only use when outside in sun. Normally keep it half or slightly more. However i found auto to be not too effective as it makes screen too dim.
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With CM/AOKP you can change the auto values so its not too dim
Keep it Classy, Cali.
CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
With CM/AOKP you can change the auto values so its not too dim
Keep it Classy, Cali.
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Really? I use cm. How can I change that?
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I was just standing outiside and noticed that I couldn't read the screen of my new Galaxy S2 which I never noticed on my Nexus S. So I compared the two in direct sunlight.
Isn't the sAMOLED+ supposed to be brighter than the original sAMOLED screen?
Is my screen less bright than other sAMOLED+ screens?
My Galaxy S 2 is definatly brighter in sunlight than my Nexus S.
although i have turned off my auto brightness and whacked it right up on both..
At brightness zero the nexus s is brighter than the galaxy s 2.
I noticed that in bright sunlight, I can't see the screen at all on my SGSG2 with it set to zero, which causes a bit of a problem upping the brightness! On the Nexus, I could see well enough to change it.
I think at full brightness though, the SGS2 is brighter. My retinas haven't recovered from accidentally setting 100% whilst reading at night.
I've been wondering whether there is a way to boost the brightness, I was going to make a topic about it.
Some reviews I've seen say they had to turn the screen down to lowest brightness as the screen is so bright, etc. however my screen is nothing special in terms of brightness really and I have it on full, with auto adjust off colours are good though.
jodeltje said:
I was just standing outiside and noticed that I couldn't read the screen of my new Galaxy S2 which I never noticed on my Nexus S. So I compared the two in direct sunlight.
Isn't the sAMOLED+ supposed to be brighter than the original sAMOLED screen?
Is my screen less bright than other sAMOLED+ screens?
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Yes, disable auto brightness maybe
jonny_ftm said:
Yes, disable auto brightness maybe
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yes, I did that. the pictures are taken with both screens on 100%
I guess my screen is just not as bright as others :/
Also, under Settings -> Display, make sure that "Auto Adjust Screen power" is disabled... this option tries to save some battery by lowering the brightness when the image displayed is brighter : It can be useful in movies but it's just useless and annoying when you're browsing or reading.
PS : And SuperAMOLED+ is not supposed to be brighter than sAMOLED, it's the same without the pentile matrix. When samsung announced an improvement in battery life and brightness they were still comparing it to LCD screens from a few years ago.
thanks bluescreenjunkie, that setting actually helped (a bit).
and yes, your probably right about samsungs claims as well, I probably subconsciously interpreted samsungs claims the best way possible ... (so I had a reason to go buy it).
thanks for your input.
well it is possible to increase the brightness but it takes some development, like supercurrio did for the 2.3.3 kernel for the nexus s and cm7 sgs1 kernel with the voodoo app.
Dont know if hes gonna do the same for the sgs2, i really like it on my sgs1 for sure.
he increased the brightness? well that explaines it then (as it's running a voodoo kernel) .
I have heard people say the pentile screens make edges look jagged etc. Is this true? I mean at something like 280+ppi I wouldn't think it would look jagged at all! Is it true?
It varies by device. I've not used a Note, but it should be similar to a Galaxy Nexus. The colors are visibly greener than the Super AMOLED+ (non-pentile) displays I've used, but the Nexus at least does not have the jagged edge issues that appear on the RAZR and some of the other qHD displays I've used. I don't know if it's because of the higher resolution/pixel density or some other property of the subpixel matrix, but I've never heard that particular criticism of a Note.
Not at this PPI.
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Not at this PPI.
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Agreed, only of you zoom in super super close on text.
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Also something to keep in mind is that pentile offers better outdoor performance and battery life
Maroon Mushroom said:
Also something to keep in mind is that pentile offers better outdoor performance and battery life
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Just so I know, why is that?
ap3604 said:
Just so I know, why is that?
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For the same reason people say it looks "bad" because it has less sub pixels so it will use less power. Though at this pixel density you would have to have a microscope because on my captivate you would have to be viewing red on black and be obnoxiously close to see it. Also it has better outdoor visibility because it can I believe get brighter then non pentile displays. For more info Google is amazing.
I have PenTile on my Photon 4G and while I can certainly see it, it doesn't bother me. When the brightness is turned way up you notice it more. I agree that at 1280x800 on a 5.3" display you're not going to notice it.
As others noted, PenTile RGBW has the advantage of offering more brightness for less power (due to the "W", I believe?) but it depends on the screen. The Droid 4 is PenTile, yet it is significantly darker than my Photon 4G (also PenTile) - both are Moto phones, so I was surprised by that difference. The Photon has the brightest, most outdoor-readable display (non-reflective) I have ever seen.
I can't recall reading anything other than "awesome" to describe the Note screen, though, so I think there's nothing to worry about here.
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I have PenTile on my Photon 4G and while I can certainly see it, it doesn't bother me. When the brightness is turned way up you notice it more. I agree that at 1280x800 on a 5.3" display you're not going to notice it.
As others noted, PenTile RGBW has the advantage of offering more brightness for less power (due to the "W", I believe?) but it depends on the screen. The Droid 4 is PenTile, yet it is significantly darker than my Photon 4G (also PenTile) - both are Moto phones, so I was surprised by that difference. The Photon has the brightest, most outdoor-readable display (non-reflective) I have ever seen.
I can't recall reading anything other than "awesome" to describe the Note screen, though, so I think there's nothing to worry about here.
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The brightness of a LCD screen (almost all Moto Droid phones are PenTile LCD) is determined by the backlite light source, not the screen pixel layout. To LCD screens, the power usage is constant regardless of the screen pixels on of off unless you can also turn the backlite light down.
AMOLED doesn't have a backlite light source. It depends on each pixels to emit light itself.
Yeah, I forgot that there are multiple PenTile layouts. Most Moto phones are RGBW, while the Note screen is RGBG, so it doesn't have the same outdoor visibility/brightness advantage.
Hi guys :]
I was wondering is there any overbright option for optimusone's display?
I'm using ICS port and the display is like 10% dimmer than when i was with Gingerbread. It's in full brightness in the options. Are there any display tweaks?
Why? I can see perfectly in the sun at 50% brightness...
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I like my display and i'm using it in full brghtness level. I don't see the point to have such a nice display (yes,i really like it) and use it with lower than 90% brightness. That's why i was wondering can i overbright the display.
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I like my display and i'm using it in full brghtness level. I don't see the point to have such a nice display (yes,i really like it) and use it with lower than 90% brightness. That's why i was wondering can i overbright the display.
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I can't see the point of getting it so up... it takes battery and destroys the eye...
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Well...i still want it brighter..are there any brightness-increase tools,scripts or something like that?
take that in mind that there is one point when having a brighter display makes worst what you see.
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take that in mind that there is one point when having a brighter display makes worst what you see.
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True, color banding is worse, dust in display... etc...
There is no such thing. But 100% brightness literally burns my eyes and I can't imagine what kind of freak will increase the brightness to 200% for no reason. ICS uses darker shades of colors than Gingerbread, the appropriate display driver is missing and the color banding isn't fully fixed.
And by the way, brightness kills much more battery than overvolting the CPU, because the GPU uses way more energy (althrough it is better for calculations than the CPU).
I think so.
I looked at a report that the S3 actually has a lower screen brightness then the S1!
"The Galaxy S3 uses a 1280 X 720, PenTile AMOLED screen, which is higher resolution, but dimmer than the Galaxy S1 and Galaxy S2 screens, Soneira said. The culprit seems to be power management: in trying to get decent battery life with its huge 4.8-inch display, Samsung had to turn the brightness down.
Power consumption figures bear that out. Samsung cut maximum display power from 2.1 watts on the Galaxy S2 to 1.3 watts on the Galaxy S3, dropping maximum brightness from 289 candelas per square meter to 224. The lower power usage, however, lets the S3 get solid battery life even with the larger screen: running time with the display on increased from 4.4 hours on the Galaxy S2 to 5.6 hours on the S3."
Qoute from a website ^
is there anyway to actually make the screen more visable? Like brighter? Its really annoying have this great phone and My older, LG 2X P990 has a brighter screen!
Thanks guys! Jack -
While I can't help you make it brighter, it's probably worth considering that display lifetime is probably also an important trade-off made by Samsung.
Even at the existing brightness, there are already some people complaining about display "burn-in" etc.
I would predict that any further increase in brightness would greatly increase the problems of burn-in and wear-out.
(Reason being that perception of brightness isn't linear, i.e. doubling the display power wouldn't make it look anywhere near twice as bright, yet would cause a dramatic increase in pixel fatigue and reduction in life)
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While I can't help you make it brighter, it's probably worth considering that display lifetime is probably also an important trade-off made by Samsung.
Even at the existing brightness, there are already some people complaining about display "burn-in" etc.
I would predict that any further increase in brightness would greatly increase the problems of burn-in and wear-out.
(Reason being that perception of brightness isn't linear, i.e. doubling the display power wouldn't make it look anywhere near twice as bright, yet would cause a dramatic increase in pixel fatigue and reduction in life)
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Ah i see :/ its just annoying having a phone not as bright as my older phone... ahh well :/
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JackHanAnLG said:
I think so.
I looked at a report that the S3 actually has a lower screen brightness then the S1! ....
is there anyway to actually make the screen more visable? Like brighter? Its really annoying have this great phone and My older, LG 2X P990 has a brighter screen!
Thanks guys! Jack -
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What is really annoying, it is the hypochondria of the users. They are buying phone, they are happy with it, but then, they have the REPORT.
It may state that S3 is slower than nokia 1100 (if dropped out from a jet plane because S3 is more flat and will glide).
It may state that S2 is fir with tiny screen compared to iSomething (to iPad, to be precise).
Not to mention that it may state that the battery is crappy compared to the Han Solo's communicator he used in Star Wars.
Jack, please take my advice:
first, sell your crappy S3.
secondly, please READ the reports, DIGG forums, and please: choose the phone which will make you happy.
last but not least: BUY only this device which you'll want, do NOT listen to your mum.
Well, outdoors, especially in bright sunlight, the GS3 screen is in deed too dim.
Maximum brightness is around 330 cd which is far less than the best LCDs offer these days. Those LCDs are bordering on 600 cd which is a massive advantage. Due to this, my next phone will one sporting a top-notch LCD. AMOLED has fallen behind the curve IMO.
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What is really annoying, it is the hypochondria of the users. They are buying phone, they are happy with it, but then, they have the REPORT.
It may state that S3 is slower than nokia 1100 (if dropped out from a jet plane because S3 is more flat and will glide).
It may state that S2 is fir with tiny screen compared to iSomething (to iPad, to be precise).
Not to mention that it may state that the battery is crappy compared to the Han Solo's communicator he used in Star Wars.
Jack, please take my advice:
first, sell your crappy S3.
secondly, please READ the reports, DIGG forums, and please: choose the phone which will make you happy.
last but not least: BUY only this device which you'll want, do NOT listen to your mum.
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I wouldnt say it was crappy, i like it, its a beast, its just not as bright as i want it
Darkside Agent said:
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1791163
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Thanks ill have a look right now!
JackHanAnLG said:
Thanks ill have a look right now!
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On maximum brightness the screen is more than enough really..
Just turn auto off and enjoy lovely colors, actual blacks and good brightness.
vkone said:
Well, outdoors, especially in bright sunlight, the GS3 screen is in deed too dim.
Maximum brightness is around 330 cd which is far less than the best LCDs offer these days. Those LCDs are bordering on 600 cd which is a massive advantage. Due to this, my next phone will one sporting a top-notch LCD. AMOLED has fallen behind the curve IMO.
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OLED doesn't need 600 nits of brightness. In fact, I don't even think that OLED should be measured that way because LCD's use a backlight which means it will win any brightness test easily. Just look at this picture for example.
http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=...q55UP-BG4GsiALEw4CgBA&ved=0CDMQ9QEwBg&dur=208
It shows that AMOLED can produce the same brightness as an LCD measuring about 100 less candela.
brand new S3 t999l here, perfect indoors, unusable in sunlight or overcast. For indoors use only, if no mod or fix to make the display brighter.
Hey guys I was thinking of upgrading the the galaxy s5, but specification wise, is it the same max brightness as the S3 ??
I mean, I really have a problem in the s3 being too dim even at maximum brightness when outdoors in the sun, so is the S5 specification wise, have the same max brightness as the s3 and face this problem?
Rate this thread to express how well you can see the LG G6's display outdoors. In case you've been playing Minecraft for 18 months straight, you might not known how to get outside anymore. Well, find the door and walk through it. A higher rating indicates that it has very high maximum brightness and thus fantastic outdoor visibility in direct sunlight.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Would've loved an amoled screen.
Well that's sure to help anyone considering getting the G6.
Are you sure it's not Amoled? Did you research reviews and specs before you were forced to get your G6?
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Well i have used the phone in direct sunlight and cant really say anything bad about it is readable so tha i can take calls, read texts but i wouldn't go out and start watching a video since when i say direct sunlight its like 90+°F lol but if i sit in a sunlight area with a bit of wind then yes phone is plenty bright enought for me to watch content on and enjoy it
For me it deserves 4 stars. LG G6 is more than sufficiently visible under direct sunlight.
It's pretty amazing to me that nobody other than Samsung has figured out oled for mobile screens. You know lg has been working on it for years, but for some reason they just can't mass produce it. Samsung has it mastered.
Actually LG isn't really starting to dabble in small OLED until next year.
As far as screen quality goes I saw a review stating measured 557 nits, as bright as the iPhone 7. Color accuracy was better than the iPhone and S7. Gamut was a little disappointing with 136% sRGB vs 197% for the S7. All in all a great display, probably the best LCD ever put in a phone.
resinis said:
It's pretty amazing to me that nobody other than Samsung has figured out oled for mobile screens. You know lg has been working on it for years, but for some reason they just can't mass produce it. Samsung has it mastered.
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Mastered? Lol... Reddit is full of people complaining about burned in screens on their S8 after just a few days.
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As far as screen quality goes I saw a review stating measured 557 nits, as bright as the iPhone 7. Color accuracy was better than the iPhone and S7. Gamut was a little disappointing with 136% sRGB vs 197% for the S7. All in all a great display, probably the best LCD ever put in a phone.
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ComputerBase (Germany) even measured 624nits:
computerbase.de/2017-04/lg-g6-test/#abschnitt_sehr_hell_und_hoher_kontrast
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Definitely bright enough.
CryztalBT said:
Mastered? Lol... Reddit is full of people complaining about burned in screens on their S8 after just a few days.
Definitely bright enough.
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i didnt know that... i guess i meant they are far, far ahead of anyone else in mobile oled displays
im very impressed with the lg g5's display. super bright, very rich in color. and crazy sharp.
It's summer season where I'm at and yesterday I was at the beach. Visibility is low in outdoor bright light.
Probably a weird question, but how is this phone when using with polarised sunglasses?
My Z2 turns to black in some angles in portrait mode and completely black in horizontal.
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I will have pretty good comparison. HTC 10 was having highest ppi and regarded as the best lCD display. However outdoor visibility was extremely bad. I am not sure but I think it is a characteristics of LCD display . One thing I notice that even for camera HTC 10 was relying on display. Whenever I was opening camera app the screen was automatically turning 100% bright and then comeback to normal after closing the app. It happen with third party camera app as well. I will report once I get G6.
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my experience: under sunlight (outdoor) in automatic brightness it is very difficult to see..... the always on display is completely invisible!!!!
wrong buy for me this g6
myabc said:
my experience: under sunlight (outdoor) in automatic brightness it is very difficult to see..... the always on display is completely invisible!!!!
wrong buy for me this g6
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Don't use auto brightness. Auto brightness is buggy in most devices. Try to do it manually.
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admartianAndroid said:
Probably a weird question, but how is this phone when using with polarised sunglasses?
My Z2 turns to black in some angles in portrait mode and completely black in horizontal.
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You can see the display in all angles. Slightly worse with rainbow-effect in some angles, but still visible.
Anyone know how it compares with the LG V20 display?
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If the sun shines directly on the screen on max brightness I can see absolutly nothing
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Don't use auto brightness. Auto brightness is buggy in most devices. Try to do it manually.
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Yes it may be buggy however according to http://www.androidauthority.com/lg-g6-review-752130/
the LG G6 display actually gets brighter than 100% when it is set to AUTO.
"Putting it through our testing, we found the display to have a max manual brightness of 556 nits, which is boosted to a very respectable 663 nits when auto brightness is engaged under direct light. In sunlight, this is likely to be even higher"
I have no way to test this myself. The display is just barely usable in direct sunlight. Better than my G3 though. I wish it was better in this regard since I use this as my motorcycle GPS sometimes.
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If the sun shines directly on the screen on max brightness I can see absolutly nothing
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Sorry for you but in the same condiction i see all very well and compared to my previous device (Samsung Galaxy s4, Redmi Note 2 and Lg G3) i think LG G6 is better of all of them, on automatic brightness too...
ILGreat said:
Sorry for you but in the same condiction i see all very well and compared to my previous device (Samsung Galaxy s4, Redmi Note 2 and Lg G3) i think LG G6 is better of all of them, on automatic brightness too...
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Do you use auto brightness and/or a screen protector? I guess some phones have brighter screens than others...