I think so.
I looked at a report that the S3 actually has a lower screen brightness then the S1!
"The Galaxy S3 uses a 1280 X 720, PenTile AMOLED screen, which is higher resolution, but dimmer than the Galaxy S1 and Galaxy S2 screens, Soneira said. The culprit seems to be power management: in trying to get decent battery life with its huge 4.8-inch display, Samsung had to turn the brightness down.
Power consumption figures bear that out. Samsung cut maximum display power from 2.1 watts on the Galaxy S2 to 1.3 watts on the Galaxy S3, dropping maximum brightness from 289 candelas per square meter to 224. The lower power usage, however, lets the S3 get solid battery life even with the larger screen: running time with the display on increased from 4.4 hours on the Galaxy S2 to 5.6 hours on the S3."
Qoute from a website ^
is there anyway to actually make the screen more visable? Like brighter? Its really annoying have this great phone and My older, LG 2X P990 has a brighter screen!
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While I can't help you make it brighter, it's probably worth considering that display lifetime is probably also an important trade-off made by Samsung.
Even at the existing brightness, there are already some people complaining about display "burn-in" etc.
I would predict that any further increase in brightness would greatly increase the problems of burn-in and wear-out.
(Reason being that perception of brightness isn't linear, i.e. doubling the display power wouldn't make it look anywhere near twice as bright, yet would cause a dramatic increase in pixel fatigue and reduction in life)
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While I can't help you make it brighter, it's probably worth considering that display lifetime is probably also an important trade-off made by Samsung.
Even at the existing brightness, there are already some people complaining about display "burn-in" etc.
I would predict that any further increase in brightness would greatly increase the problems of burn-in and wear-out.
(Reason being that perception of brightness isn't linear, i.e. doubling the display power wouldn't make it look anywhere near twice as bright, yet would cause a dramatic increase in pixel fatigue and reduction in life)
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Ah i see :/ its just annoying having a phone not as bright as my older phone... ahh well :/
This may help
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I think so.
I looked at a report that the S3 actually has a lower screen brightness then the S1! ....
is there anyway to actually make the screen more visable? Like brighter? Its really annoying have this great phone and My older, LG 2X P990 has a brighter screen!
Thanks guys! Jack -
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What is really annoying, it is the hypochondria of the users. They are buying phone, they are happy with it, but then, they have the REPORT.
It may state that S3 is slower than nokia 1100 (if dropped out from a jet plane because S3 is more flat and will glide).
It may state that S2 is fir with tiny screen compared to iSomething (to iPad, to be precise).
Not to mention that it may state that the battery is crappy compared to the Han Solo's communicator he used in Star Wars.
Jack, please take my advice:
first, sell your crappy S3.
secondly, please READ the reports, DIGG forums, and please: choose the phone which will make you happy.
last but not least: BUY only this device which you'll want, do NOT listen to your mum.
Well, outdoors, especially in bright sunlight, the GS3 screen is in deed too dim.
Maximum brightness is around 330 cd which is far less than the best LCDs offer these days. Those LCDs are bordering on 600 cd which is a massive advantage. Due to this, my next phone will one sporting a top-notch LCD. AMOLED has fallen behind the curve IMO.
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What is really annoying, it is the hypochondria of the users. They are buying phone, they are happy with it, but then, they have the REPORT.
It may state that S3 is slower than nokia 1100 (if dropped out from a jet plane because S3 is more flat and will glide).
It may state that S2 is fir with tiny screen compared to iSomething (to iPad, to be precise).
Not to mention that it may state that the battery is crappy compared to the Han Solo's communicator he used in Star Wars.
Jack, please take my advice:
first, sell your crappy S3.
secondly, please READ the reports, DIGG forums, and please: choose the phone which will make you happy.
last but not least: BUY only this device which you'll want, do NOT listen to your mum.
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I wouldnt say it was crappy, i like it, its a beast, its just not as bright as i want it
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Thanks ill have a look right now!
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Thanks ill have a look right now!
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On maximum brightness the screen is more than enough really..
Just turn auto off and enjoy lovely colors, actual blacks and good brightness.
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Well, outdoors, especially in bright sunlight, the GS3 screen is in deed too dim.
Maximum brightness is around 330 cd which is far less than the best LCDs offer these days. Those LCDs are bordering on 600 cd which is a massive advantage. Due to this, my next phone will one sporting a top-notch LCD. AMOLED has fallen behind the curve IMO.
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OLED doesn't need 600 nits of brightness. In fact, I don't even think that OLED should be measured that way because LCD's use a backlight which means it will win any brightness test easily. Just look at this picture for example.
http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=...q55UP-BG4GsiALEw4CgBA&ved=0CDMQ9QEwBg&dur=208
It shows that AMOLED can produce the same brightness as an LCD measuring about 100 less candela.
brand new S3 t999l here, perfect indoors, unusable in sunlight or overcast. For indoors use only, if no mod or fix to make the display brighter.
Hey guys I was thinking of upgrading the the galaxy s5, but specification wise, is it the same max brightness as the S3 ??
I mean, I really have a problem in the s3 being too dim even at maximum brightness when outdoors in the sun, so is the S5 specification wise, have the same max brightness as the s3 and face this problem?
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I was just standing outiside and noticed that I couldn't read the screen of my new Galaxy S2 which I never noticed on my Nexus S. So I compared the two in direct sunlight.
Isn't the sAMOLED+ supposed to be brighter than the original sAMOLED screen?
Is my screen less bright than other sAMOLED+ screens?
My Galaxy S 2 is definatly brighter in sunlight than my Nexus S.
although i have turned off my auto brightness and whacked it right up on both..
At brightness zero the nexus s is brighter than the galaxy s 2.
I noticed that in bright sunlight, I can't see the screen at all on my SGSG2 with it set to zero, which causes a bit of a problem upping the brightness! On the Nexus, I could see well enough to change it.
I think at full brightness though, the SGS2 is brighter. My retinas haven't recovered from accidentally setting 100% whilst reading at night.
I've been wondering whether there is a way to boost the brightness, I was going to make a topic about it.
Some reviews I've seen say they had to turn the screen down to lowest brightness as the screen is so bright, etc. however my screen is nothing special in terms of brightness really and I have it on full, with auto adjust off colours are good though.
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I was just standing outiside and noticed that I couldn't read the screen of my new Galaxy S2 which I never noticed on my Nexus S. So I compared the two in direct sunlight.
Isn't the sAMOLED+ supposed to be brighter than the original sAMOLED screen?
Is my screen less bright than other sAMOLED+ screens?
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Yes, disable auto brightness maybe
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Yes, disable auto brightness maybe
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yes, I did that. the pictures are taken with both screens on 100%
I guess my screen is just not as bright as others :/
Also, under Settings -> Display, make sure that "Auto Adjust Screen power" is disabled... this option tries to save some battery by lowering the brightness when the image displayed is brighter : It can be useful in movies but it's just useless and annoying when you're browsing or reading.
PS : And SuperAMOLED+ is not supposed to be brighter than sAMOLED, it's the same without the pentile matrix. When samsung announced an improvement in battery life and brightness they were still comparing it to LCD screens from a few years ago.
thanks bluescreenjunkie, that setting actually helped (a bit).
and yes, your probably right about samsungs claims as well, I probably subconsciously interpreted samsungs claims the best way possible ... (so I had a reason to go buy it).
thanks for your input.
well it is possible to increase the brightness but it takes some development, like supercurrio did for the 2.3.3 kernel for the nexus s and cm7 sgs1 kernel with the voodoo app.
Dont know if hes gonna do the same for the sgs2, i really like it on my sgs1 for sure.
he increased the brightness? well that explaines it then (as it's running a voodoo kernel) .
Hi,
new to the forum, wondering to buy 300 (for gps w/o dongle) or prime (and can't decide !)
To prime users, I would like to know how you consider Super IPS + Mode, for outside (browsing especially) : gadget, usefull, essentiel ?
Do you use this mode every time outside or only in very bright conditions ?
I've found some videos on it but hard to see what it gives in real life.
Any commments appreciated ! Thanks.
Super IPS+
I use the Super IPS+ quite a lot. Anytime I have glare on my screen from Indoor lights or when Im sitting on my porch during daylight. It is bright enough also that I use it in the middle of the night to see the keys on the Docking Keyboard.
Super IPS+ is an amazing feature that I have come to love and would not get another tablet unless it has Super IPS.
I find it useful. I'm able to sit outside, with my sunglasses on in the sun, and read the screen clearly. I use to have problems doing the same with my Nook Color which was considered to have a decent screen for outdoor viewing. The difference when you turn the IPS+ mode on is very noticeable. If it's necessary for you to see it outdoors, then it's a worthwhile upgrade.
What applications/are you looking to get done with GPS? Just so we can assess what kind of GPS performance would be acceptable for your usage cases.
get the prime. read the thread in my signature called the positive transformer thread. super ips+ makes the screen and colors pop more. can be used indoors also.
I use the ISP + feature almost daily, whenever I'm outdoors.
Would I not consider any other tablet simply because it didn't have ISP+?
No. But it would certainly swing things in the favor of any tablet that did have that feature!
Hardly a "gimmick"...
super ips + is more than just a brighter screen compared to regular ips. super has higher contrast ratio. better color reproduction, blacks are blacker, whites are whiter..etc..colors more vibrant ans so on.
ips is good but super ips+ is a newer technology. before new ipad came out, prime was toted as having the best screen display of any tablet
Thats funny, some of the Devs working on the prime, have mentioned IPS+ is just the brightness turned all the way up (an exeptional bright screen yes), apparently the prime was artificially blocked from going to its brightest setting, and then slapped slapped with an 'IPS+ 'feature', which turns on its highest brightness setting.
This is what ive read some devs saying, im by no means an expert in the matter, so cant attain to its validity, but devs i tend to trust in these matters
Its a nice bright screen, no doubt, i guess we'll have to wait until the 300 comes out, to see whether its just as 'bright'
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Thats funny, some of the Devs working on the prime, have mentioned IPS+ is just the brightness turned all the way up (an exeptional bright screen yes), apparently the prime was artificially blocked from going to its brightest setting, and then slapped slapped with an 'IPS+ 'feature', which turns on its highest brightness setting.
This is what ive read some devs saying, im by no means an expert in the matter, so cant attain to its validity, but devs i tend to trust in these matters
Its a nice bright screen, no doubt, i guess we'll have to wait until the 300 comes out, to see whether its just as 'bright'
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Thank you all for your feedbacks !
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get the prime. ....
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I might, considering what you say on super IPS+, and I believe the screen quality is essential.
If anyone is interested in, I found some benchmarks on the french site "Les numériques" for the prime :
> Contrast 1224:1 for IPS and 1138:1 for Super IPS+
> Brithness 387 cd/m2 for IPS and 619 cd/m2 (!) for Super IPS+
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... i guess we'll have to wait until the 300 comes out, to see whether its just as 'bright'
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I haven't thought 300's normal IPS could be different than Prime's one, so I might wait some tests indeed.
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What applications/are you looking to get done with GPS? Just so we can assess what kind of GPS performance would be acceptable for your usage cases.
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I would like to use GPS in car for some real-time traffic mapping based on floating car data and/or for (legal !) community speed camera alerts (like wikango, icoyote..). But actually I don't know if either is possible without 3G (I do not have a 3G smartphone so no tethering). So I might only dream ?
The Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge has a crazy crisp display. Just kidding, this is automated text so who knows if this screen is any good. So, you be the judge! A higher rating indicates that it's extremely sharp and clear, and that you cannot see pixels with your naked eye.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
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Even at QHD I can see the weird rainbow-sh look in the display. AMOLEDs with pentile pattern look worse than something like IPS at the same resolution.
Im not sure if it's because of the curves or the QHD but the screen looks AMAZING. Great contrast between whites and blacks and so crisp for web browsing.
Definitely one of the best screens available in smartphones. WOW effect is still present for me.
I think the edges ruin the screen for me. If the S7 had been larger I wouldn't have gotten the edge.
I say this as a previous Note 7 owner. The Note 7 edge wasn't so steep and didn't blur out text/pictures that go over the edge anywhere near as bad.
I will gladly buy an S8 edge outright if it holds the design of the Note 7's edge.
Believe that IPS screens have more definition.
Not a bad screen, but if I compare my iPhone 6s Plus between this S7 Edge, iPhone looks more clear.
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Believe that IPS screens have more definition.
Not a bad screen, but if I compare my iPhone 6s Plus between this S7 Edge, iPhone looks more clear.
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I personally don't think the clarity is any better, but the colors are far more realistic which may be what causes that thought. While the S7E is better than previous samsung phones I've had, their colors are insanely over saturated. That just is a samsung thing in general. Their TVs are the same way. Most of the stock adjustments are horrible and I could never own one without it needing calibrated.
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I personally don't think the clarity is any better, but the colors are far more realistic which may be what causes that thought. While the S7E is better than previous samsung phones I've had, their colors are insanely over saturated. That just is a samsung thing in general. Their TVs are the same way. Most of the stock adjustments are horrible and I could never own one without it needing calibrated.
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There are several options in settings > display > screen mode to adjust colors.
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I personally don't think the clarity is any better, but the colors are far more realistic which may be what causes that thought. While the S7E is better than previous samsung phones I've had, their colors are insanely over saturated. That just is a samsung thing in general. Their TVs are the same way. Most of the stock adjustments are horrible and I could never own one without it needing calibrated.
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I do know about saturation on AmoLed screens. I´m actually comparing both phones right now, and looking closely to them, I can swear iPhone has more like definition, despite of resolution on S7E.
You are right about TVs, their colors are too much strong for me, thats why I prefer LG, curved screens are insane.
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There are several options in settings > display > screen mode to adjust colors.
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Yeah, it doesn't come close regardless of those settings to the more realistic IPS display. I do blame Samsung, I think the displays are capable of realistic colors, but samsung is at fault for their love of over saturation.
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I do know about saturation on AmoLed screens. I´m actually comparing both phones right now, and looking closely to them, I can swear iPhone has more like definition, despite of resolution on S7E.
You are right about TVs, their colors are too much strong for me, thats why I prefer LG, curved screens are insane.
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Do you have the phone set to WQHD? I was comparing mine to my dads Iphone 6S Plus last night and couldn't tell a difference minus the heavy color saturation. I started using some B&W images to compare to try and remove the color problem. Tried to pick some pictures that were more on the W end than the B end to keep it relatively fair. Used some rather large pictures, larger than either display can show, which also plays a role in which compresses better. WQHD is 2560X1440 and the 6S Plus is 1920X1080. I did not compare two 1080P images and so the Iphone may win here. I can't say for sure.
Now if you were to ask me to compare my old Note 3/4 to the Iphone 6 Plus at the time, I would 100% agree with you.
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Yeah, it doesn't come close regardless of those settings to the more realistic IPS display. I do blame Samsung, I think the displays are capable of realistic colors, but samsung is at fault for their love of over saturation.
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This article seems to say otherwise. http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_S7_ShootOut_1.htm
nosympathy said:
Yeah, it doesn't come close regardless of those settings to the more realistic IPS display. I do blame Samsung, I think the displays are capable of realistic colors, but samsung is at fault for their love of over saturation.
Do you have the phone set to WQHD? I was comparing mine to my dads Iphone 6S Plus last night and couldn't tell a difference minus the heavy color saturation. I started using some B&W images to compare to try and remove the color problem. Tried to pick some pictures that were more on the W end than the B end to keep it relatively fair. Used some rather large pictures, larger than either display can show, which also plays a role in which compresses better. WQHD is 2560X1440 and the 6S Plus is 1920X1080. I did not compare two 1080P images and so the Iphone may win here. I can't say for sure.
Now if you were to ask me to compare my old Note 3/4 to the Iphone 6 Plus at the time, I would 100% agree with you.
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Yes, on WQHD, on 1080p doesn't have any chance to fight.
I am not sure what it is, just feeling more satisfied with 6s Plus. I have played with Settings on screen for S7E, but it's not close. It may be that I've used my 6s plus for a year and I'm new with the S7E, got used to ips.
Anyhow, I feel same as you with saturation. Samsung could do it better.
I used to own an Iphone 6s and the difference in screen quality is huge.I love my s7 edge!
I really like my S7e in every way but an Iphone 7 plus display looks better to me.
Doesn't really bother me though.
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This article seems to say otherwise. http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_S7_ShootOut_1.htm
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says exactly what I am saying...
Screens fine, but over saturated to hell and back. Yes it has a color management to help, but it can't fix horribly handled saturation by Samsung.
"As expected the Galaxy S7 OLED spectra are relatively narrow with deep notches between the primaries, which results in highly saturated colors that are adjusted with display Color Management to improve image color accuracy"
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says exactly what I am saying...
Screens fine, but over saturated to hell and back. Yes it has a color management to help, but it can't fix horribly handled saturation by Samsung.
"As expected the Galaxy S7 OLED spectra are relatively narrow with deep notches between the primaries, which results in highly saturated colors that are adjusted with display Color Management to improve image color accuracy"
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According to the article from DisplayMate, the the average color error (from sRGB) of the S7 Edge is 1.5 JNCD and broke the previous record for color accuracy. I see no evidence that Samsung was unable to properly calibrate the S7 Edge display in Color Management, as it had the least average color error for smartphone displays at the time of review.
kinda disappointed with whiteness of the screen
my opx and oppo f1 s have much whiter screen.this one is yellowish. any tweaks suggested?
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According to the article from DisplayMate, the the average color error (from sRGB) of the S7 Edge is 1.5 JNCD and broke the previous record for color accuracy. I see no evidence that Samsung was unable to properly calibrate the S7 Edge display in Color Management, as it had the least average color error for smartphone displays at the time of review.
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I once bought a Pioneer Kuro 50" Plasma TV. It was, at the time, heralded as the most accurate set available. Display Mate and others did their tests etc and several AV mags used the TV as a reference. It cost me £2700.
I sold it at a £900 loss 6 months later.
Never got on with it and honestly never understood what all the buzz was about. Whilst blacks were deep whites looked ... not white. Worse, in scenes with a lot of white content the brightness dimmed further. The thing also buzzed in tune with brightness levels.
The test reports didn't or hardly did touch on these well known problems often discussed on owner forums.
Moral ... don't believe everything you read.
I also feel that for me a good LCD still has the upper hand in naturalness picture wise overall compared to Amoled which, in comparison, seems over saturated. (I use basic mode and an app called Screen balance)
Other than that, I think the S7E is a good device and I probably will use it another year.
My next phone will likely have an LCD display though unless Samsung change their Amoleds in some ways (or introduce more versatile screen adjustments)
Saturation levels may well also depend on the resolution
If every pixel is used you likely get more Saturation. In Nougat you can lower resolution to HD. I haven't updated yet as I want more S7e user feedback on A7 (I have exceptional battery life on MM and no issues).
I would be interested to hear if anyone noticed less Saturation with reduced resolution, ideally backed up by measurements.
I can't see the differents between FHD and 2k with my eyes
Hi, I'm seriously considering buying the G5 since it has FM radio, fast charge 3.0 and of course a removable battery but my #1 concern in buying a phone is the brightness since I'm using my phone a lot outside and I wouldn't even consider to buy a phone with an average brightness like the G4 or the nexus 6p.
I have the gs5 and the problem is that in order to see something outside I have to put the brightness all the way up and that's pretty much killed my phone since I have a disgusting burn in all over the screen where the keyboard and the status bar are so Amoled is a big issue for me since it's basically always on maximum brightness which basically kills the display very fast (I could see burn in after 2 months from buying the device!).
So my question is how bright is the display on the G5? Also does the fact that it has the S820 means that there will be a lot of custom roms and development like in the Samsung Galaxy series?
Thanks
Double of LG G4
The phone hasn't been released or properly reviewed yet, but I've seen at least one early hands on mention that the screen was insanely bright. This would definitely be an improvement over their previous screens if true.
The G5 at %50 should be almost as bright as the G4 at %100, which is quite bright. I like a bright screen and keep my G4 at %80.
thanks for the answers but is there an actual test that shows how much Nits this phone gets when it's on maximum brightness? basically my fear is that i will buy this phone and it will be bad in outside usage because of the screen or that the phone will die after a year of usage.
i know that LG is a bad company and their products are trash but do you think they changed things with the G5? is it safe to buy in your opinion?
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thanks for the answers but is there an actual test that shows how much Nits this phone gets when it's on maximum brightness? basically my fear is that i will buy this phone and it will be bad in outside usage because of the screen or that the phone will die after a year of usage.
i know that LG is a bad company and their products are trash but do you think they changed things with the G5? is it safe to buy in your opinion?
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It's safe since the G2
On the German LG Site you can find these Information: 1.440 x 2.560 Pixel (Quad HD), 554 ppi, 800 Nit, Gorilla Glass 4, GPU Adreno 530
I think it's more than enough. :cyclops:
Oh wow 800 nits seems too good to be true I hope it's real
I've read it's closer to 900 nits. Either way, it should be plenty bright.
Lol I think they should also include a spare motherboard in the box just in case
I found this, which looks pretty good:
http://www.androidauthority.com/lg-g5-vs-lg-g4-674756
"Covering the proximity sensor will shut the screen off entirely, saving power when the phone is in your pocket, and nudging it will make the Always-On display slightly brighter. Speaking of brightness, on paper the LG G5 almost doubles the G4’s maximum brightness of 455 nits, pumping out 900 nits at max brightness, although in our experience they looked very similar. The LG G5 had more stable viewing angles than the G4 though. In terms of pixel density, the G5 crams 554 pixels per inch (ppi) into its slightly smaller display compared to the G4’s 534 ppi."
So it's 900 nits on paper but the same as G4 if you put them side by side? Something is wrong here
And the lowest possible brightness is? How dark can the screen go?
I very much look forward:fingers-crossed:
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And the lowest possible brightness is? How dark can the screen go?
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on my S5 the lowest brightness is very very low and that's so great when i'm using it at night but i'm not expecting it to happen on LCD since Amoled is a much more superior technology.
I wouldn't say AMOLED is more superior. It has more saturated colors, better blacks, and uses less power when dark colors are displayed.
LED/IPS tends to have more natural colors, better whites, is sharper, and best of all, no burn in.
It's subjective.
Yes but eventually all manufacturers will move to Amoled displays and will ditch LCD.
Nice!
And that saddens me. AMOLED shouldn't be as highly praised as it is when it has a major flaw, such as burn in.
I know there are many who claim they use their AMOLED screen a ton and have never had burn in but I just think they aren't looking close enough. Tons have admitted to faint burn in, at the least, within six months and that is unacceptable to me for a $600+ device.
I wish manufacturers let you choose which kind of screen you wanted, similar to a Motomaker type of thing.
well to be honest my Nexus 7 2013 had LCD and one time it freeze and became really really hot and after i restarted it the tablet had something similar to a burn in with Amoled and it was permanent, i guess LCD doesn't like heat.
my moto 360 also has LCD display and 6 months ago i hit it against the wall and since then i also have a permanent mark on my moto 360 display, i guess the LCD got damaged from the inside.
Hi All,
I'm currently using Tab S4, but I want to switch to S7 11 inches. As we all know there is a LCD display.
Generally AMOLED is better, but do I see big difference between these two? I could order S7+, but it is just too big for me.
Can you please advise? I don't want to be disappointed every time I look on my new tablet.
Thanks
personally i would go amoled anyday. lcd the blacks will look dark grey.
Accustomed to the AMOLED display now going back to a LCD... eeh. Since i like having most of my stuff in dark mode anyways, the AMOLED will be considerably better on battery life for me. Even it being slightly bigger (1" x .5" roughly) vs the S4.... 12.4" screen imo would be worth it. I'm looking forward to the S7+ myself!
Going from tab s4 to the s7 plus screen is seriously impressive.
The screen with 120hz is the best I have ever seen.
I use my S4 as a huge google maps / waze GPS when in the car, is the S7+ screen outside the legal limits if you get pulled over? I think 11 inches is the largest screen you are allowed to have ( United States)
I have both the Tab S 7 and the S7+.
Avoid the S7 as the screen looks terrible, dull and pixelated. It doesn't even hold a candle to the screen of the Tab S3.
In contrast the S7+ screen looks glorious.
I had the tab s4, s5e and recently picked up the regular tab s7. During regular use, I would say there's not a huge difference, but the viewing angles are a little better on the amoled screens. If you watch content in low light, you will notice that the blacks aren't as inky black....but on my amoled screens, I get a bit of black crush/banding when displaying greys at low brightnesses.
I would say that using it is a much better experience than the tab S4, if you include the keyboard case. It makes it much closer to an actual 2-1 device compared to the prior generatios.
No comparison s7 lcd is crap compared to s4 and s6 ambled. S7 plus screen is fantastic. If you want lcd buy an ipad
I have not used other tablets but own the note 9. I didn't expect the LCD to look great after all the reviews. Thankfully I have been surprised by how much I like it. I am drawing, gaming and content and the only thing I wish it included was the keyboard and the themes store. I will get the keyboard later. 11" 120Hz screen is very nice. Having the 5g version this will be a really fun tablet.
Have you people actually used the S7? I have the S7+ but I've used the 11" S7 and it's a really really nice screen. I can't imagine the S4 looks better. Do not be afraid to buy the S7 if it's the form factor you want.
Please stop telling people the S7 screen looks good compared to amoled. If it were true samsung would have put the new LCD on both models and we wouldn't see every flagship phone even from apple starting to use OLED. If you don't care about vibrance and aren't using for media then the s7 is probably fine for you, but that does not mean the screen is as good as OLED, it just means you don't care. There simply are no LCDs that compare to OLED, phone, tablet or TV. The s7 has a well made "nice" looking LCD, the s7+(and S6, S4, S3, S2) have beautiful AMOLED displays and samsung should be ashamed.
gottahavit said:
Please stop telling people the S7 screen looks good compared to amoled.
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I don't think anyone is saying that. I think the point is to compare the Tab S4 screen to the Tab S7. The S7 has a higher resolution than the S4 and is a really really good screen for not being AMOLED.
Lucas155 said:
I don't think anyone is saying that. I think the point is to compare the Tab S4 screen to the Tab S7. The S7 has a higher resolution than the S4 and is a really really good screen for not being AMOLED.
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yup
The next marketing victim.
Simply go to wikipedia or ask s.o. with knowledge. But avoid sponsored reviewers on YouTube living from the stuff they present.
OLED are great for average usage. Biggest advantage: pitch dark blacks and strong contrasts as well as saturation.
Biggest down-side: uneven decay by color over lifetime. -> strongest color shift, burn-in effect...
LCD can be much brighter, have the highest color accuracy and stability, but lack the OLED high saturation and contrasts. Hence, blacks are not really dark.
It always come to the use case.
You wanna play, watch movies, use many apps. Great: OLED is for you. Most people even do not keep their devices longer than 2 years, so burn- in will not appear. Even my 3.5 years old s8 phone have not a really notable burn-in. And for the color shift I care by adjustments the rgb levels.
You want a working device, showing all day long office, use it as a display mount on a wall, showing static areas: OLED will have burn-in within less of a year.
That is the reason you will not find OLEDs in offices, not to talk from company's relying in color accuracy.
There's a reason, companies like Samsung spend billions in developing new techniques like Q-\Micro-LED.
Finally: the s7 has a really great LCD, superior to most others LCD devices. In contrast to OLEDs, it lacks perfect blacks and oversatturation. Does it fall behind professional monitors? Not really - but every OLED will.
If color accuracy is a thing for you? Go for the s7, especially you do not like the bigger size of the s7+. If perfect black and strong contrast is your thing, take the s7+, but remember the mentioned draw backs of OLEDs.
Of course LCD can be brighter, they just put in brighter edge or back lighting at which point your color accuracy and consistency across the device goes to crap. This is one reason why anyone who calibrates an LCD TV set's base brightness quite low.
Either way I'm done arguing, the one thing that was said that is correct is "go see them for yourself" don't believe anyone here(including me) which screen is better for you.
Everyone sees differently. I don't see any colors the same as others do so the S7 screen looks great. Not better and certainly not any less then any OLED I have looked at.
I barely touch my note 9 these days. Love the screen size etc for gaming and watching movies in bed.
I don't know where people learnt that AMOLEDs are better, they are worse than LCD: Amoleds has little more details in black with blacker blacks at the cost of having less dynamic range with burned highlights (false high contrast illusion, for a high contrast to be high you need details in shadow and highlights), and the worse thing you will find in any Amoled is PWM that is not present in the S7 LCD (point your cell camera in super slow motion to an Amoled screen and see what you get in any Amoled/Oled brand...), there is a reason why the specs of high end monitors says NO PWM, thus for a tablet is important not to have AMOLED if you don't want eye strain or other health issues as the time pass.
When I bought my Tab S7 was because of the LCD display, speed and audio output, last week I used it to sign a contract very well in the place of my turtle Onyx Boox Note (I don't use often the pen but is very responsive, the Onyx feels more like a paper but the screen is prone to scratches); I had Amoleds before in tablets and were horrible for my eyes and I don't like the burned highlights. I have been using the S7 for a month and I'm very happy with my choice and I use much less my S10+ (I hope Samsung will release smartphones with LCD and not curved screens...)
I don't see any reason why in a tablet someone should use Amoled.
gottahavit said:
Please stop telling people the S7 screen looks good compared to amoled. If it were true samsung would have put the new LCD on both models and we wouldn't see every flagship phone even from apple starting to use OLED. If you don't care about vibrance and aren't using for media then the s7 is probably fine for you, but that does not mean the screen is as good as OLED, it just means you don't care. There simply are no LCDs that compare to OLED, phone, tablet or TV. The s7 has a well made "nice" looking LCD, the s7+(and S6, S4, S3, S2) have beautiful AMOLED displays and samsung should be ashamed.
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Please stop telling people that amoled is god made. S6 screens are full of wobble. S4 and lower were oversaturated and settings couldn't be really changed. All "benifit" of amoled was there in saturation and non existent accuracy. Once saturation removed there was no real difference between lcd aside high propensity to burn depending on usage and blinking individual pixels. I am not saying that lcd is better but definitely not as much worse as you kije trying to shill about godlike amoled, but sung is always doesn't know what the hell they are doing. They doing whatever without understanding, everytime new variety of terrible obviously stupid decision.
Extreemator said:
I am not saying that lcd is better but definitely not as much worse as you kije trying to shill about godlike amoled
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If someone should consider color accuracy at all levels of brightness (Amoleds as the brighness goes up, the colors are totally off), dynamic range and health, LCDs with no PWM are by long much better than Oleds, the only advantage of Oleds are the deep blacks, lets wait for the minileds if they will have PWM or not.
By the way, all of my phones are and were amoled, my televisions are Oled and all have the nefarious PWM (LG say they don't but is a lie, I checked them with my camera) but I rarely watch them.
What about your laptop?... did you checked PWM before buying it or did you only check battery life, CPU and memory? Most of the laptops has tremendous PWM that is really bad to your eyes, but nobody is talking about this...
Why Apple and other brands put Amoled in their phones? because of consumerism, Samsung marketing (LG for Oled TVs) tried to convince hard the public for lot of years that the deep blacks is the way to go but they didn't explain at what cost including your health.
Tab s7 also has PWM according to notebookcheck review