so guys, I had tried out eclipse for the first time. It was damn impressive, but there was a few things that I was missing, and I had a problem with my corporate sync, which was a dealbreaker for today. I thought I would just quick BSR nandroid back to my stock setup for today.
Well, the restore didn't take. There was a barrage of FC's, and after I was finally able to wade through them, it was clear there was an issue. I still have the superuser app, but BSR is not working. It shows installed in the app drawer, but when I try to install again from the app it says it doesn't have permission. When I plug in the phone it turns on and goes to the moto logo and just stays there. Maybe 1/2 my apps restored. I noticed all my old texts were back.
This was my first attempted use of restore, I'm thinking perhaps I was supposed to wipe before hand? I'm curious if there's any way to save this, or if I have to do the SBF dance, and then can I try the restore again once I'm back up to 2.3.5?
And yes, the backup was a 2.3.5 backup
You can't restore a 2.3.4 backup if you're currently running on 2.3.5. I tried this too a while back and realized that is what messed me up. Only issue I had was that wifi would not connect no matter what. It just said error. You will need to SBF to go back to 2.3.4 if you try to restore a ROM based on 2.3.4 framework (CM7, stock, liberty, molten, etc). You can NAND restore between all of those ^ without issue as I do it DAILY.
So to successfully restore a NANDROID backup of a 2.3.4 ROM you must already be on 2.3.4 or a ROM based off of it.
I don't really ever use Eclipse anymore, but when I flash something else I always SBF first just to be sure I'm not going to have any problems later.
Edit: Just noticed you said it was a 2.3.5 backup, sorry. You didn't rename the backup did you? If you did, did you add spaces to the file name? This will break your backup.
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Nope, no file name changes. My current theory is something about the SD flip must have gone haywire. I somehow seemed to have lost root.
And yes, everything here was 2.3.5 418 based
err, nevermind this post
did the sbf dance last night, tried the BSR restore again, same results!
so I SBF'd again and got back to 2.3.5 rooted stock and am sitting here for now
I know somebody out there knows more about this than I do
oh, and the damn yahoo account sync isn't working, had to install email only as imap
and how can there be data left on the phone after a datawipe? I have backups from app configs available from months ago.
three west said:
did the sbf dance last night, tried the BSR restore again, same results!
so I SBF'd again and got back to 2.3.5 rooted stock and am sitting here for now
I know somebody out there knows more about this than I do
oh, and the damn yahoo account sync isn't working, had to install email only as imap
and how can there be data left on the phone after a datawipe? I have backups from app configs available from months ago.
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Who knows, maybe the SD flip did have something to do with it. I've never personally used/looked into it. Could your SD card be dying? Try charging your phone and making a new NANDROID backup and see if you're able to restore that one. Could just be an issue with that backup file.
& SBF wipes internal phone storage so if you had app data backed up on SD, it'll still be there. It doesn't touch external SD data. That's why I keep everything on my external SD card. .
I've sbf'ed and data wiped plenty of times with my removable SD card inserted.
Cyanogenmod all day
RoyJ said:
Who knows, maybe the SD flip did have something to do with it. I've never personally used/looked into it. Could your SD card be dying? Try charging your phone and making a new NANDROID backup and see if you're able to restore that one. Could just be an issue with that backup file.
& SBF wipes internal phone storage so if you had app data backed up on SD, it'll still be there. It doesn't touch external SD data. That's why I keep everything on my external SD card. .
I've sbf'ed and data wiped plenty of times with my removable SD card inserted.
Cyanogenmod all day
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Thanks for the reply Roy. I deleted stuff from my SD manually, so there was nothing left there. Just plugging into mass storage mode and exploring the interal storage I can see the old data still there in the data folder. I don't know how it survived 2 data wipes? At this point I need to take a night off. Next I may try my eclipse backup and see if that works.
Another thought was that the SD was fairly full, but I didn't see any messages about running out of space. Any idea how big a BSR backup should be?
And since this is my first attempt at BSR restore, it IS supposed to restore everything, right?
three west said:
Thanks for the reply Roy. I deleted stuff from my SD manually, so there was nothing left there. Just plugging into mass storage mode and exploring the interal storage I can see the old data still there in the data folder. I don't know how it survived 2 data wipes? At this point I need to take a night off. Next I may try my eclipse backup and see if that works.
Another thought was that the SD was fairly full, but I didn't see any messages about running out of space. Any idea how big a BSR backup should be?
And since this is my first attempt at BSR restore, it IS supposed to restore everything, right?
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Just make sure you're already on 2.3.5 before you try to restore your Eclipse backup.
My backup size;
CM7
790,132,736 total
.android_secure.img / 2,112
cache.img / 21,120
data.img / 636,345,600
nandroid.md5 / 132
system.img / 153,757,824
That's my CM7 backup, but then again I do have a lot of apps and other miscellaneous data backed up as well. Here's a 2.3.4 Rooted backup. Completely stock;
2.3.4 Rooted
569,897,600 total
.android_secure.img / 2,112
cache.img / 29,568
data.img / 249,917,184
nandroid.md5 / 132
system.img / 319,942,656
Yes it WILL restore everything you had backed up. SMS inbox messages, call logs with dates and times, system settings, laucher and desktop setting, etc.
I usually backup pretty often. After I switch up my homescreen settings, launcher effects and transitions, updating applications, etc. ALWAYS before trying to flash a new ROM or hacking/modding.
So for example my CM7 was backed up with like 9 apps with updates available from the Play Store, so I updated them all. If I restore to say, CM9 for example, and go back to CM7 using that same backup file, I will need to re-download those 9 updates I did before I restored CM9.
If you are on CM7 and restore a CM9 backup and get a phone call/text message while on 9 - and you restore back to 7 - you will be missing that log/text because it wasn't backed up, get it?? Restores everything exactly to how it was when you booted in BSR, selected-> Backup & Restore-> External SD-> Backup.
something must have gone haywire with the data wipe. Those are approximately the size of my backups of 2.3.5 stock and eclipse 2.2.
I'm back 2.3.5 rooted stock now, started from scratch rather than restore.
I some how have ADW icons available that are not yet even installed since wipe...
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I'm running streakdroid 1.9 but I would like to do some experimentation with my streak. If I flash a new rom what will I lose? How do you backup your data so you can flash to your hearts content?
Thanks
if u flash stock roms, they do a factory reset during first start up.
So u end up loosing everything.
However if u flash .zip version of the stock roms using CWM or streak recovery , u will retain almost everything but may loose somethings like root and so on.
Remember stock roms will flash its default recovery everytime it boots up
Ok thanks. Is it wise to do a factory reset anyway?
What tools can I use to backup messages, apps, photos, etc?
I use titanium backup.
If you do a nandroid backup, when you restore it, everything will be just as it was before you flashed another ROM...
As far as using Titanium... it has never worked for me completely, nor has MyBackUp Pro, they cause me more headache than being useful...
I have gotten to the point to when I flash a new ROM, I just manually install everything, I know it sounds like some hassle, but you end up with a much smoother operating phone.
I even do a nandroid backup first, then go into my ROM and manually uninstall everything, so that when I boot up my new ROM and setup my market account, it doesn't try to install everything on its own and bog down my phone at first, I install everything manually in the order I want and set them up as I go.
I know this sounds cumbersome, but I have found it creates a cleaner environment and practically eliminated force closes
That is the way I like to do things also but what about the things that you can't just re-install e.g. sms, application specific data?
Advice
I was having a sim card and constant restart issue after updating to streakroid 2.4.4, and even after flashing dsc, the problem persisted. After I reviewed the steps I had taken I realized that I never did a factory resest (fearing I would forever lose my precious app data, which I did -_-). It turned out that was the fix, after doing the factory reset, my sim card was recognized immediately and a couple of the text I had missed showed up. However, I fixed one fixed problem and developed another.
Even though I restored a MyBackup and Titanium backup I did right before resetting I recovered my several apps without their precious data (setting, notes, bookmarks). I tried doing internal backups within the apps, some conveniently had syncs to a cloud yet I missed doing that with a few apps because I have over 100+ and I use more than half on a regular basis (even if for 5 minutes). All my apps are on my device, which is a good thing but I cant appreciate that given the missing data.
So my advice is:
Use apps that have can automatically backup or sync data -- there are enough apps with similiar utility that you can avoid ones without that function.
Do a manual backup within your important apps. -- Some apps backup files to locations that may be wiped during update, doesn't have auto backup or the last backup is months old.
Pics, texts, call logs are easily backed up -- Backup programs will explicitly state or ask what to back up in that regard.
Do a nandroid backup -- I believe this only restores rom and apps but someone can correct me.
Caveat
Through all the research done before actually need to restore a backup I missed the fact when restore apps depending on the restore program every app has to be reinstalled individually. If you have more than 25 apps then #$#@!, also for some reason when restoring with titanium if during a batch restore you come across an app if you hit cancel during one of the install prompts because you actually don't want to restore that app the batch will freeze and you'll have to force close titanium and start the restore all over. Go through the list of restore options and choose each app one by one, save yourself the time.
Lastly, to piggy back off what was said before, a factory reset( FR) after updating rom is always recommended but its not always needed. Most roms will update without causing you to lose any data but like I said previously I had sim card issues when I updated without a FR. YMMV
At this point I don't know if this helps the OP but maybe it will benefit someone else who reads this thread.
This guide by _n0p_ tells how to do an upgrade and minimize the re-installation of apps.
Key items:
Use the backup function of any apps that have it
Don't count on restoring data with TB or My Backup
Make a nandroid - just in case
I have found TB and My Backup to be useful for things like browser bookmarks.
The post linked to discussed going from Froyo to Gingerbread but the same techniques apply for moving to any other ROM.
Last time i changed roms, i used the Dell backup utility for evertyhing but the apps, which can be backed up together with their data with QtADB which creates a backup folder on your SD. After installing the new rom, i chose advanced recovery from the Dell Utility and set it to recover everything but the apps, which i recovered with QtADB. However, I also strongly recommend nandroid, in case the steak doesn't boot after the install.
Hey there.
I had Lite'ning Rom 1.4 installed and decided to switch to VillainROM.
I did a full backup with Titanium Backup of all my user data and apps.
I did another backup in CMW, both successfully stored on the internal SD card.
I flashed VillainROM incl the tweaks, correct Kernel etc.
Now when I load Titanium Backup and want to restore my userdata like contacts, messages etc it does say it successfully restored the data but nothing is showing up, the contact list is still empty. So are the messages etc.
Since the Samsung stock apps are touched by VillainROM, is it possible the signatures are messed up or something?
I'm really a bit shocked I cannot seem to import the data, hopefully I'm just dumb and the data ain't lost
Please tell me that's the case...
Cheers for ANY advice on how to get my data back.
Okay, turns out I'm dumb.
A simply reboot did the trick, doh! It should say that somewhere...
Nevermind me, I will go into my corner and be ashamed of myself
I have read that when going to a different rom to do a full wipe.
So clearly if you want to keep your apps you back them up and recover them with titanium backup, but why is it advised to not restore the Data of the apps?
How else would I keep game scores and settings and such?
Thanks
restoring the data for the user apps is fine, don't restore the system data...
Wond3r said:
I have read that when going to a different rom to do a full wipe.
So clearly if you want to keep your apps you back them up and recover them with titanium backup, but why is it advised to not restore the Data of the apps?
How else would I keep game scores and settings and such?
Thanks
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that would be a bit of misinformation that gets spread around.....
its fine to restore user apps+data. i have been doing it for a long time with every device i have. swapping between devices and all.
do a batch restore MISSING apps+data
unselect anything that might be blur/sense/touchwiz specific (based on the phone you are using)
run the batch and reboot
verify you are not having any FCs on your apps
if you do a batch restore of just user apps+data (and not the MISSING option) you will get tons of issues.
it is not advised to use Titanium Backup for things like text messages, contacts, phone logs, etc. (while possible it will work just fine, i have seen lots more issues trying to restore those from rom to rom rather than just user apps.)
again. use the MISSING APPS option in the batch restore of Titanium Backup
i have been doing it for over a year on many different devices and i even share my titanium backup folder between different phones, with NO issues at all. and i typically flash several times a week on several different devices.
Wond3r said:
I have read that when going to a different rom to do a full wipe.
So clearly if you want to keep your apps you back them up and recover them with titanium backup, but why is it advised to not restore the Data of the apps?
How else would I keep game scores and settings and such?
Thanks
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It is advised to do full wipe, if you install a rom.
And if you want to keep your settings, games scores etc, you use Titanium Backup.
Titanium Backup is your friend in those cases..
What is not adviced, is installing a Rom, without wiping your data.. In that way, you keep for example data of apps and games, of a froyo rom, to a gingerbread rom..
Rom to Rom differs(even in same android version), thats why you full wipe, and then TiBu saves you by restoring them, to the new rom's enviroment..
Edit: Agree with others.. I was typing on atrix, and since i wrote this, they already answered!
Also in atrix, NEVER restore FINGERPRINTS backup..
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Pirateghost said:
that would be a bit of misinformation that gets spread around.....
its fine to restore user apps+data. i have been doing it for a long time with every device i have. swapping between devices and all.
do a batch restore MISSING apps+data
unselect anything that might be blur/sense/touchwiz specific (based on the phone you are using)
run the batch and reboot
verify you are not having any FCs on your apps
if you do a batch restore of just user apps+data (and not the MISSING option) you will get tons of issues.
it is not advised to use Titanium Backup for things like text messages, contacts, phone logs, etc. (while possible it will work just fine, i have seen lots more issues trying to restore those from rom to rom rather than just user apps.)
again. use the MISSING APPS option in the batch restore of Titanium Backup
i have been doing it for over a year on many different devices and i even share my titanium backup folder between different phones, with NO issues at all. and i typically flash several times a week on several different devices.
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That explains it. Ive seen MANY posts where users tell other users to restore apps but not restore data but dont specify they mean system data and not app data!
Also, when people talk of a full wipe, do they mean even deleting the contents of the internal storage (like photos and such?)
This would be for going from one ROM to another ROM, both GB
No they are talking about doing a "wipe data/factory reset" in CMW and not physically deleting your internal sdcard. if you delete your sdcard then you will wipe out data that you need including your titanium backups
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No they are talking about doing a "wipe data/factory reset" in CMW and not physically deleting your internal sdcard. if you delete your sdcard then you will wipe out data that you need including your titanium backups
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Thanks ! I always feared that the wipe data/factory reset pretty much deletes all the files on your device like photos and music
The short answer is force closes. Which also can happen from restoring app data, altho it is less likely to happen, it can and it will. But yea def dont restore system data.
Is there any other way of saving game saves?
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Is there any other way of saving game saves?
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You can use SyncIt or GameOn, you can even back it up manualy with Root Explorer. You should be fine with TiBU, just if you do get a force close you will know why and what to do (delete data and/or uninstall/reinstall).
I am having an issue restoring my app data from titanium backup. The issue first occurred when i switched from a stock ROM to CM7 ICS ROM. When i restored my missing apps+data all of my app data had disappeared. I just started over and didn't worry about it. Then when i switched from CM7 back to a stock rom I received my old apps+data from before i switched to CM7. I read around on the forums that this might be a compatibility issue. So i started to use the setting in the batch menu "Manipulate data and converted my backups to roll back journal mode which says this works with all roms, and started uploading to Dropbox. I recently just switched my Rom from a stock ROM to CM9 ICS. I lost all of my apps again!! and got back all of the app data from when i was using CM7. Could someone please shed some light on what is going on here cause i have no idea. Please let me know if there is anything i can do to get my app data into CM9 from my last stock rom. The stock rom i was using was an old ROM called wet dream.
JonnyCazoid said:
I am having an issue restoring my app data from titanium backup. The issue first occurred when i switched from a stock ROM to CM7 ICS ROM. When i restored my missing apps+data all of my app data had disappeared. I just started over and didn't worry about it. Then when i switched from CM7 back to a stock rom I received my old apps+data from before i switched to CM7. I read around on the forums that this might be a compatibility issue. So i started to use the setting in the batch menu "Manipulate data and converted my backups to roll back journal mode which says this works with all roms, and started uploading to Dropbox. I recently just switched my Rom from a stock ROM to CM9 ICS. I lost all of my apps again!! and got back all of the app data from when i was using CM7. Could someone please shed some light on what is going on here cause i have no idea. Please let me know if there is anything i can do to get my app data into CM9 from my last stock rom. The stock rom i was using was an old ROM called wet dream.
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The stock rom uses a different back up location than cm roms. You will have to manually go find the data backups in tibu. Don't bother having it auto detect, wont work. For example, all my backups were at mnt/emmc/titaniumbackup instead of the stock roms location of mnt/sdcard/titaniumbackup
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The stock rom uses a different back up location than cm roms. You will have to manually go find the data backups in tibu. Don't bother having it auto detect, wont work. For example, all my backups were at mnt/emmc/titaniumbackup instead of the stock roms location of mnt/sdcard/titaniumbackup
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Looks like that was the the problem. I saved my backup on drop box so i just dropped what was on dropbox in my titanium folder and restored it. I now have all of my app data back.
Hi guys,
I'm fairly new to all of this, ive been reading up on flashing and the different roms, rooting android devices etc... i personally still using a symbian i know lol but its all modded and flashed so im not a complete noob...
My girlfriend got a sgs2 few months back, i flashed Lightening for her, she thought it was great with the speed and UI of it all..
Last night i showed what MIUI looks like and so i flashed it for, her spent a while setting it all up, she loved it with the masses of customisations etc...
Now i KNOW kies is an utter piece of crap ave had a numerous problems with it and her phone before but not like this...
Basically after flashing MIUI the phone would just not connect to Kies at all, the only thing it would do was come up as a removable drive of which i could not access half the time (told me the disk was empty) - the phone would only give me the option to mount/unmount the SD card NOT the usual "transfer data to pc" so i did all the usual troubleshooting tasks: reboot phone and pc, reinstall drivers, reinstall kies to no avail.
the ONLY reason i need to reconnect to kies is to get all her contacts msgs gallery etc back
I cleared all data and caches when flashing as i know you should when flashing a new rom.. ive only flashed lightening v5 and v6.1 but had no problems whatsoever and i was wondering if there is a known problem/solution to this?
apologies for the long post just wanted to give as much info as possible also she DOESNT have an sd card as of yet other wise i would have just used a 3rd part backup manager to backup/restore from SD card...
i did wonder (AFTER restoring back to Lightening rom backup) would it be possible to 'advanced restore' JUST the 'data' from the recovery menu whilst runnning the MIUI rom or would that just be a complete mess?
Thanks for any help you guys have would be greatly appreciated
**EDIT** - Sorry if this is in the wrong section i couldnt find anything related or a suitable thread after searching quite a bit
As far as im aware kies only recognise stock firmware. Also you could still use the third party apps and save it to the internal storage of the phone no need for external sd card, as you dont need to wipe internal storage when flashing new ROM.
Did you make a backup of the lightening ROM? If so restore it and backup contacts/messages using a third party app and re-flash then restore.
Ricey
Hey Ricey thanks for the reply mate,
Ahh right ok then, i assumed that it would work with all custom roms as it worked fine with Lightening but now i think i know its because lightening is a stock firmware thats been rooted and had some tweaks whereas MIUI is actually custom.
I wasnt aware that it doesnt wipe internal storage when doing a wipe data+cache, until last night when we noticed that all her photos and apks were still on the phone just not apps lol...
I'm assuming that if i use a 3rd party app to backup contacts and msgs etc they WONT be wiped along with all of the other data for the backup app.
1 last question: any recommendations on a backup program from the market? i keep reading about titanium backup but not sure if this performs the task i want it to.
Thanks
**EDIT** sorry forgot to answer your question - yes i did backup the lightening rom and restored it after spending nearly 2 hours trying to find a solution to this problem
Sms backup+ will backup sms to your gmail account, and restore between roms.
Sync contacts to your google account.
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mindyabiznis said:
Hey Ricey thanks for the reply mate,
Ahh right ok then, i assumed that it would work with all custom roms as it worked fine with Lightening but now i think i know its because lightening is a stock firmware thats been rooted and had some tweaks whereas MIUI is actually custom.
I wasnt aware that it doesnt wipe internal storage when doing a wipe data+cache, until last night when we noticed that all her photos and apks were still on the phone just not apps lol...
I'm assuming that if i use a 3rd party app to backup contacts and msgs etc they WONT be wiped along with all of the other data for the backup app.
1 last question: any recommendations on a backup program from the market? i keep reading about titanium backup but not sure if this performs the task i want it to.
Thanks
**EDIT** sorry forgot to answer your question - yes i did backup the lightening rom and restored it after spending nearly 2 hours trying to find a solution to this problem
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They will still get wiped its just gives you a backup to restore once reflashed. To backup contacts just use the stock contacts app, and export to SD. When re-flashing just import from SD using the same method. As for Messages use sms backup & restore off the market by ritesh sahu. The app is pretty self explanatory.
thanks for your input guys, in the end i just used the MyBackup app from the market and i got it all flashed and working correctly..
Now to get customising
Ok the story...I am rooted on my Razr and loved my Razr for the past couple of weeks, but I started having major issues with 3g turning off and on. Very frustrating! Decided to do a system reset. Back to square one with my Razr. I have superuser ok so I get TB from the market and try to reinstall my apps. I had 135 apps installed before and had several Titanium Backups stored on sdcard and internal SD card. I'm not sure what is happening but TB will only see 1 or 2 of my apps on restore with any of the backups. Could this be busybox? Am I losing my mind and forgetting something? I'm so trying to figure this out. If anyone has had this problem I would be very grateful for advice.
My noobness is really showing.
Thanks in advance
EDIT: Well I think I found the problem, I guess. I took an older TB backup file and it found 119 of my apps. Strange however as before I did a reset I did a full backup and that file I guess was corrupt! Call me very puzzled, but I have most of my files now.
Thanks ya'll