Please help me root my GS2.
Ive tried various guides on here and CANNOT achieve root at all, ive tried zergrush, no joy, superoneclick, no joy, i dont want to flash a cfroot yet, i want to get root so i can flash the kernel cfroot from mobile odin so i dont increase my binary counter, triangle away is not an option for me because it does not reset the counter at all.
So im locked to 3, stock ics, xwlp7, galaxy s2 i9100.
I wish to schieve root without counter increase and gain cwm in doing so, is there a way that i can do this, any help would be appreciated guys, im struggling.
If you have a microSD card, you can use http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1501719
If not, bite the bullet and flash a rooted kernel followed by http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494114 if the counter bothers you so much. Contrary to your post, it does reset the counter.
Triangle away didn't worked because you were not rooted.
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atifsh said:
Triangle away didn't worked because you were not rooted.
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yep he is right, you have to flash a rooted kernal to get root working properly.
try this kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399 the creator of this kernel is also creator of triangle away so it work perfectly (i also do have this kernel and it works like charm).
and yes by flashing this kernel your custom binary count will rise +1 but after root just buy triangle away and reset binary count.easy(if you broke then you have to live with that yellow triangle and +1 binary count).
cya......
graemeg said:
Please help me root my GS2.
Ive tried various guides on here and CANNOT achieve root at all, ive tried zergrush, no joy, superoneclick, no joy, i dont want to flash a cfroot yet, i want to get root so i can flash the kernel cfroot from mobile odin so i dont increase my binary counter, triangle away is not an option for me because it does not reset the counter at all.
So im locked to 3, stock ics, xwlp7, galaxy s2 i9100.
I wish to schieve root without counter increase and gain cwm in doing so, is there a way that i can do this, any help would be appreciated guys, im struggling.
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Go here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1501719
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**SOLVED**
Hey fellas, all you that replied, THANKYOU.
I solved it with your help, and avoided a custom binary count.
I flashed a pre-rooted rom, followed by creating a firmware folder on my sd card and copying my stock rom over to the folder and cf root kernel.
Then i flashed cfroot through mobile odin, to get cwm
Then i ran cwm, flashed my stock firmware and kept the cfroot zimage kernel as my root, job done.
Ok so a lot of people would have done it an easier way and accepted the counter and triangle, but i really wanted to avoid that if i could because chainfire himself WARNS of the risks with triangle away, and i dont have a usb jig yet, awaiting its arrival.
So this is how i did it anyway, but without the assistance you all offered i was struggling, so again thankyou, this is why im on XDA, its the best place to be, the community spirit on here is awesome and each and every one of you is a credit to XDA, its a great place to be, cheers guys, now im on the lookout for apps and mods, i like to stay stock but some nice UI mods or something would be good, happy days.....
Graeme
Long winded way of doing such a simple task. Also entirely ignoring the advice given to you. Whatever.
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Long winded way of doing such a simple task. Also entirely ignoring the advice given to you. Whatever.
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Ok, whats that all about !!!!, i dont get it, i said thanks, i clicked thanks.
For the record, Whatever, i tried your methods, WITHOUT success, because frankly, the flashing cwm.zip post should be removed, its absolute nonsense and doesnt work at all, wont allow any access to the sd card and even mounting didnt work, so hence i had to look for alternate solutions, which, DIDNT involve flashing an insecure kernel through odin and INCREASING my binary count.
That was the whole objective, may not matter to you, but it did to me and probably a whole host of others.
But you still got thanked coz between your post and the others that replied it gave me good advice and after investigating further root issues i found a solution.
So again, thanks.
I have shown my gratitude and i appreciate your time by clicking thanks, theres plenty that dont despite helping.
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For the record, Whatever, i tried your methods, WITHOUT success, because frankly, the flashing cwm.zip post should be removed, its absolute nonsense and doesnt work at all, wont allow any access to the sd card and even mounting didnt work, so hence i had to look for alternate solutions, which, DIDNT involve flashing an insecure kernel through odin and INCREASING my binary count.
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CWM.zip is touch recovery only and isn't persistent. But it works like a standard CWM recovery should. Never had any problems when rooting this way. I then flash a permanent CWM from either Ktool, mobile odin or the CWM manager apk.
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Haha some people will learn the hard way, at least they learn, which is good for this community.
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CWM.zip is touch recovery only and isn't persistent. But it works like a standard CWM recovery should. Never had any problems when rooting this way. I then flash a permanent CWM from either Ktool, mobile odin or the CWM manager apk.
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Yup, very well noted, and as for the other comment below yours, whats to learn??, this method didnt work for me, i flashed it, i accessed cwm, and it WOULD NOT allow me to flash the su zip whatsoever, it wouldnt mount my usb storage nor my sd card, so what else was i supposed to do.
Unfortunatley during my time on xda wading through posts and guides quite often you come across issues like this, when it works for one and not another, but regardless, i got root in the end and without adding to my counter, objective achieved.
Just to note, maybe its something about the security on 3 network phones, i dont know, ive tried chains unlock tool and that failed too, so i decided to pay for it to be unlocked and theyre computer couldnt generate a code either, puzzling considering the s2 has been around for quite a while now, because many others seem to have unlocked with no issue at all.
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Hi I rooted my galaxy s2 and then unrooted it as I did'nt know what to do with it as overclockig and changing cpu frequencies did'nt seem to do anything. I read on your forum bit, that samsung can tell if you have rooted the device or not, how do I avoid that.
When I rooted I downloaded the original Kernal and the yellow triangle went away. Then I unrooted via superoneclick.
Then when I went on to samsung kies the firmware was'nt there, so I did a factory reset and now it is back and is up to date the firmware version is there now.
I'm guessing I should've back my phone up before hand but how and should I have done things the way I did?
My appologies for the war and peace but I am nooob and really want to learn.
What I have learned is off youtube and I could'nt get all the info I wanted, like where to download a safe superone click root.
In the video they used cwm I think but where do you get this and what does this do?
Any help you guys can give me please inbox me so I can learn a bit more.
Thanks guys and girls and all the best for the year ahead.
Kind regards Iamaspecialneedscase.
Iamaspecialneedscase said:
Hi I rooted my galaxy s2 and then unrooted it as I did'nt know what to do with it as overclockig and changing cpu frequencies did'nt seem to do anything. I read on your forum bit, that samsung can tell if you have rooted the device or not, how do I avoid that.
By not flashing or by using the>> SEARCH will find it >> USB Recovery Jig .
When I rooted I downloaded the original Kernal and the yellow triangle went away.
Then I unrooted via superoneclick.
Then when I went on to samsung kies the firmware was'nt there, so I did a factory reset and now it is back and is up to date the firmware version is there now.
I'm guessing I should've back my phone up before hand but how and should I have done things the way I did?
You have gone down a different route firmware wise is KIES official firmware once you change part or modify kernel part you may not get KIES upgrades .
download a safe superone click root.Thats a very old method .
In the video they used cwm I think but where do you get this and what does this do?
Any help you guys can give me please inbox me so I can learn a bit more.
Thanks guys and girls and all the best for the year ahead.
You need to start at the beginning and read and learn its not really hard .
start with the basics and take your time .
NEW HERE
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1134290
Guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1125282
Method of rooting and installs CWM recovery
Root + CWM .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
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roughly
The process would be root and install CWM choose a custom rom and flash through CWM then backup via CWM .
jje
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Where do I get cwm please
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Well guys and girls, I am even more confused now! What is cwm and where do I get it?
If super one click is outdated then what do I use?
I have read quite a few forums but I'm lost, please somebody help!!!!!
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I wasn't going to this question because 30 seconds of Googling would give you every answer you want and more but hey, it's new years, and I'm in a festive spirit.
So your question, first, "what is CWM?". CWM (Clockwork mod) is replacement for the standard Samsung recovery suite which allows you, in addition to the standard functions, to restore data, backup data, flash new zips and a wealth of other great stuff. Basically its your best friend when flashing new ROMS, Kernels, etc.
If you want to do anything above and beyond the bog standard tweaking with your phone (basically everything you find here on XDA) you will need to use CWM. It comes with any and every rooted Kernel you flash. Every Kernel which has root will have CWM. So if you had rooted your phone by installing a custom Kernel you would have it. (side note, you get to recovery by holding volume up + home button + power button for a few seconds).
Now down to how to get CWM and to super one click. If you made a timeline of XDA and rooting, super one click would be at the very very start. Its the dinosaur of rooting. I recommend strongly against using it, to be honest I didnt even know you could still use it. Anyway, the best way to root your phone is by flashing a rooted Kernel. I will presume your phone is now unrooted and you are running stock Kernel + stock ROM. You want to download Odin (http://www.mediafire.com/?a54dbk53vhpkjto) and then flash a corresponding rooted Kernel to your ROM (I recommend CF-Root by Chainfire). I'm not going to tell you how to flash stuff with Odin because there are millions of guides out there, just don't tick re-partitioning. What I mean by corresponding is it build of the Kernel should relate to your ROM. If you are running a XWKK5 ROM for example, you would flash a XWKK5 Kernel. It's pretty clear in Chainfire's CF Root thread what the builds of all the Kernels are.
Anyway I hope that helps you, and I hope you're grateful I've just taken 5 minutes to explain to you things that you could have found guides on written by people much more experienced than myself in 2 minutes of googling.
I thanked you because its New Year! (@postfatal)
Good luck with the rooting and make sure you use the search functions of these forums, a wealth of information is to be had and the stickies are well worth a look!!!
BTW rooting will void your warranty.
Thank you postfatal. I have done some googleing and have read up un quite a bit of stuff, but still getting boggled by all the info.
Maybe I will just give this up as abad job.
Thank you and happy new year.
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Iamaspecialneedscase said:
Thank you postfatal. I have done some googleing and have read up un quite a bit of stuff, but still getting boggled by all the info.
Maybe I will just give this up as abad job.
Thank you and happy new year.
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Hi,
Belive me, i was just like you for 3-4 days ago, and by now i almost can everything that's needed to be known about rooting. Almost everyone here make it sound so hard to rooting, that's because they can't eplain things in "noob languages".
If you still don't know how to do this, PM me back and i will help you.
thanks
Actually, Chainfire's CFRoot instructions couldn't be simpler. There's only 10 steps (7 that actually require you to do something)
I don't see what's difficult about:-
*checking your current kernel
*finding the corresponding CFRoot kernel
*downloading same (and downloading Odin if necessary)
*unzipping the tar
*firing up Odin
*putting your phone in download mode (volume down/home button/power button)
*plugging one end of a USB cable into the USB port on your PC/the other into the USB port of your phone
*clicking on PDA in Odin & navigating to where you saved the CFRoot kernel tar file
*clicking "start"
*waiting until the process completes/Odin saying "OK" then unplug the USB cable/wait for your phone to reboot
Or am I missing something ?
Darwichee said:
Hi, Almost everyone here make it sound so hard to rooting, that's because they can't explain things in "noob languages".
thanks
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[ROOT/UNROOT/Custom Recoveries/Kernels/Roms] AT&T Galaxy Note ONLY!/ No Flash Counter
THIS IS A GINGERBREAD ROOTING METHOD, FOR WHEN YOU FIRST GET THE PHONE OUT OF THE BOX, THIS WILL NOT WORK WITH NEW OFFICIAL ICS.
This method is for people that have a AT&TGalaxy Note only and want to have root in the stock rom without tripping the flash counter only, For everything else look at the bottom of the first post!!
If you want root to flash a custom rom/kernel/CWM and you don't care about the flash counter and the warranty then this is not for you.
Go here for other root! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1504218
Now I went ahead and put the files together in one zip to make it simpler, it contains the root zip, the odin and the samsung usb drivers, all the files needed in one download .
DOWNLOAD: Big File: 532mb in size
http://goo.gl/aq2Wl
After the download follow this steps made by capite.
Extract Odin but don't launch it, run the samsung drivers for your phone on the PC and install it. Then plug in your phone to make sure it works -- it seems to take a while to get everything working. If you get an error, try rebooting and try again. Also, try using the cable that came with your phone -- 3d party cables don't always seem to work. If it still doesn't work, try another USB port.
1. Turn off your phone and uplug it. Take the battery out of your phone, put it back in, and hold the volume down button and power button at the same time. Keep them held down until the phone starts buzzing and you see the Samsung name.
2. At this point you are either in download mode or the phone will tell you to hit volume up, at which point you'll be ready.
3. Run Odin on your PC -- right click and choose "Run as Administrator" just to be safe.
4. Plug your phone into your PC.
5. In the Odin screen, wait until one of the top boxes turns yellow and displays some numbers.
6. UNCHECK all the boxes except for Auto Reboot.
7. Hit the PDA button and navigate to mashi's file that you unzipped.
8. Hit start
9. wait until your phone reboots.
10. If it didn't work, try rebooting and starting from scratch.
11. verify super user app now present. Update super user app (optional).
If you want to go back to unrooted, download this .tar file and flash thru odin! http://goo.gl/BBdow
Thanks to Da_G !
Flashing back to stock thru odin by using the stock tar in case of brick will increase the flash counter.
Enjoy and hit the thanks button if it helps you.
UPDATE: Custom Recoveries/Kernels/Roms without tripping the flash counter go here.! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23229071&postcount=57
UPDATE 2: Unrooting guide for AT&T go here.! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23499670&postcount=133
Since this is a System root, will it replace my Rogers ROM with AT&T ROM? I understand Rogers ROM has more features that are disabled on AT&T (NFC, Tethering, some apps).
zaptor99 said:
Since this is a System root, will it replace my Rogers ROM with AT&T ROM? I understand Rogers ROM has more features that are disabled on AT&T (NFC, Tethering, some apps).
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This will change the Rom and give issues to any other Rom besides stock AT&T rom when making root permissions.
Sorry but I edited this post to inform the people that only scroll thru the first page only!
i used Da_G root
roloracer said:
So I'm making this thread because the one made by mashi has a dead link and it says it will increase the flash counter when it doesn't.
So thanks to mashi and thanks to capite for his instructions, I'm just doing a clean thread to avoid the multiple question threads in the Q&A about anybody having root without the flash counter going up.
anyone that finds this steps by capite helpful , please hit his thanks button.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22920576&postcount=87
If the moderators find this thread unecessary you can delete it, just trying to help keep things organized.
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to root my note, can you tell me if i use this if this will reverse the Counter.
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to root my note, can you tell me if i use this if this will reverse the Counter.
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no nothing will reverse your counter yet, this will not increase it, sorry.
roloracer said:
not to my knowledge, this shouldn't change anything but the root permissions, I didn't have to do anything after, not even a factory reset. this has the system.img.ext4 in it, I'm sorry but I don't know if it would change anything in your rom besides root permissions, I didn't create this file, just helping to provide it. .
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i believe this method replaces the entire system partition so he will lose stuff like nfc. once cwm is working fully I'm sure someone will create a flashable zip that just adds root without replacing the whole partition.
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i believe this method replaces the entire system partition so he will lose stuff like nfc. once cwm is working fully I'm sure someone will create a flashable zip that just adds root without replacing the whole partition.
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Not sure how it's done, but the entire stock rom including nfc service 2.3.6 is still intact. There is nothing missing or unusable from the original LA1 rom. Also since there is no hard reset, user data isn't affected. Again, we need mashi or someone far smarter than me to tell us exactly how this works. All I know is that it does.
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so I guess if you want cwm to work, you'll have to use Da_G's Kernel Root?
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so I guess if you want cwm to work, you'll have to use Da_G's Kernel Root?
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Why, you flash cwm thru Odin and cwm increases the flash counter so this method would be pointless if you're not worried about your flash counter, if you don't care about the flash counter then use DA_G method of rooting/overclock kernel, this method is just for the people that are concern about the flash counter and want to get root.
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Oh, cwm itself increases it....
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Oh, cwm itself increases it....
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Yes you're replacing the stock recovery with a custom recovery, even when is available thru Rom manager as an official version of cwm, is still considered a custom recovery. Even the stock modified replacement recovery in here it will come up as custom when you flash it and will trip the flash counter if Im correct.
Sent from my awesome Galaxy Note!
I assume this is doable via heimdall, correct? It looks like it's just a system image, which can be flashed with Heimdall.
Edit: Heimdall doesn't work on the Galaxy Note. Sad day.
When I follow the directions to root my device my entire computer freezes once I press start. This is happening when I try to root using Da_G's method or the method from this thread. All the help I can get would be greatly appreciated. Thank you
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When I follow the directions to root my device my entire computer freezes once I press start. This is happening when I try to root using Da_G's method or the method from this thread. All the help I can get would be greatly appreciated. Thank you
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there must be something wrong with your pc, you're the first person that I hear is having issues with odin, make sure the drivers are properly working.
I may wait a bit before I root but if I was to use this method I or we wont have any issues flashing roms once they come available right?
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I may wait a bit before I root but if I was to use this method I or we wont have any issues flashing roms once they come available right?
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No, this is a system root to be able to have root on the stock rom and avoid tripping the flash counter, if you flash a rom I'm pretty sure you will loose this root, but if you are planning on flashing a rom and the counter is not a concern then you need the perm-root in DA_G thread.
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No, this is a system root to be able to have root on the stock rom and avoid tripping the flash counter, if you flash a rom I'm pretty sure you will loose this root, but if you are planning on flashing a rom and the counter is not a concern then you need the perm-root in DA_G thread.
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Oh, I thought this method would allow root and flashing of roms without tripping the counter. So there is no fix for the counter? I've read posts off people asking how to remove trips etc. So in a nut shell if you are planning on flashing roms at this time there is no fix for the counter so use the other root method?
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Oh, I thought this method would allow root and flashing of roms without tripping the counter. So there is no fix for the counter? I've read posts off people asking how to remove trips etc. So in a nut shell if you are planning on flashing roms at this time there is no fix for the counter so use the other root method?
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no only this root won't, once you go flashing custom roms/kernels/recoveries it will trip the counter as of now, hopefully soon there will be a way to fix this.
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no only this root won't, once you go flashing custom roms/kernels/recoveries it will trip the counter as of now, hopefully soon there will be a way to fix this.
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can u help me with my situation i am trying to flash this in oden but it just hangs there is this because of my flashing the cwm recovery , i thought that it might be so i tried to reflash the stock recovery and now that just hangs , everything shows as connected in device manager on this pc which is a clean xp ...also it boots up fine
Worked like a charm on the first go around.
Thanks rolo! +1
Hi @all...
I never thought rooting the phone (to get the CM9 nightlies) was such a complicated ordeal. I've no clue how much time I spent reading threads and evaluating all the possible ways to root.
I want to avoid increasing the flash counter by all means as I still have one year of warranty left... just to be on the safe side. Unfortunately I already have Android 2.3.6 (kernel 2.6.35.7-...LA4) on the phone, so from what I was able to figure out on my own, this means SuperOneClick or in general zergRushExploit based roots won't work anymore since the leak has been fixed. I could flash an insecure kernel but some people say that in general everything flashed through Odin will increase the flash counter and others say, that flashing an insecure kernel won't do anything to the counter (the whole idea would be kinda pointless if it didn't imho). Also there is the talk of a newer bootloader which will prevent resetting the counter. So much information to digest...
So, I would really like to ask for some friendly help. Is there any way to root the i9100 without increasing the flash counter that will still work with my current firmware and that I can use as a stepping stone to flash the CM9 nightlies? Or some alternative I am not seeing? (except for staying on stock)
Thanks a lot for helping me out in advance...
matthew.
Zergrush 4 (Doomlord) works on KL1 2.3.6 - I'm on it.
No "counter" issues
Also if you do increase your counter there is triangle away app which resets it to 0 without a jig.
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Get a jig...
It costs only a dollars or so!!!
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What you can do is:
go to the cm9 user discussion and flash the recommended bootloader
download the clockwork mod recovery from the rom manager website, gapps and latest cm nightly then place it on your external SD card and not the internal
Using stock recovery navigate to the clockwork recovery zip and apply
It will bring up clockwork mod recovery
Do a factory reset...then you can wipe system/data/cache partition from mounts and storage but its optional (I did this because I just wanted a super clean install)
Install the nightly and gapps
you have succesfuly installed CM9
Enjoy
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Get a jig...
It costs only a dollars or so!!!
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A jig won't work on 2.3.6 onwards..
And just remember triangle away app only works on ics...
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First of all, thanks @all for your help.
@LenAsh: If KL1 is your kernel build version, you are actually on a older kernel. If it is your firmware version, you are newer though (KI4 here). The reason why I am pointing this out is that I have read in both developer threads, that with LA4 kernels and/or Android >= 2.3.6, the exploits used won't work. But again, there were also people reporting otherwise. Could you maybe clearify what exact versions you are on, please?
@st3chn0: Hm, won't flashing the bootloader also increase the dreaded flash counter because it is done through Odin?
@Li4m79: I know. What I haven't figured out so far (and maybe you can help me out on this one): Is the requirement an "ICS bootloader" or really ICS? So if I flash CM9 from my GB stock and keep the bootloader as is, will I still be able to use the Triangle Away app?
So long,
matthias
2.3.6 - in my sig
LenAsh said:
2.3.6 - in my sig
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Ok, that I got the first time. But it is just part of the story. Firmware and kernel version would be nice to know. Thanks.
BinaryKhaos said:
First of all, thanks @all for your help.
@st3chn0: Hm, won't flashing the bootloader also increase the dreaded flash counter because it is done through Odin?
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Flashing just the bootloader wont do anything to the bootloader since its the samsung official bootloader... only things such as custom kernels etc (not verified by samsung themselves) will increase the counter
BinaryKhaos said:
First of all, thanks @all for your help.
@Li4m79: I know. What I haven't figured out so far (and maybe you can help me out on this one): Is the requirement an "ICS bootloader" or really ICS? So if I flash CM9 from my GB stock and keep the bootloader as is, will I still be able to use the Triangle Away app?
So long,
matthias
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Not sure mate... but if you are flashing cm9 why keep the boot loader? ... just flash cm9 and then use triangle away...
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Hello, I hope it's okay to resurrect this for a related question.
I've got my SGSII (I9100) only a couple of days ago, but coming from another android (which is nowadays lowend: I5800) which was always rooted I couldn't stay un-rooted for long. I've rooted using su/busybox injection via temporary CWM, as that obviously doesn't increase flash count (and consequently doesn't cause the yellow triangle).
I'm a bit worried about possibly needing warranty at some point, when the phone is in a state where I can't use it anymore to use "triangle away" (like display hardware issues, whatever) but Samsung can read the flash counter (possibly denying warranty).
So on to my actual question: I tried to find some clear information about what exactly causes the flash counter to increase and/or causes the yellow triangle. There isn't any sticky about it (in any of the sticky thread collections), so could someone clarify that for me?
My phone already shipped with ICS, I would conclude that I already have one of the new bootloaders that can no longer be reset using a jig (unless I flash an old one just for this, obviously).
I've read the only operation that can cause triangcle/counter increase is flashing a kernel (and rom with a kernel) in download mode (Odin) and that Samsungs own (unmodified) kernels are always OK to flash. Correct so far?
Concluding from that, it would mean that any nandroid restore operation would also be safe (for returning to some custom rom after testing/disliking a different one). Just like applying and update.zip (including things like flashing a rom this way). Still correct, I hope?
I really wish there was a sticky explaining this in detail, not just the existence of the counter/triangle and that it's possible to get rid of it, but not how to avoid getting it in the first place.
You can use for ics triangle away app and for GB u can use the one click root
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For my case when i needed to flash GB i upgraded the os to ICS and rooted the ICS then i installed odin for mobile and then i flashed the GB again with ODIN from my mobile and i already reset my counters with triangle away in the 1st step try this one it will make u happy lol
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moe.nassef said:
You can use for ics triangle away app and for GB u can use the one click root
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Thanks for the reply, but I already know that. It will most likely be no problem to reset, but writing to the bootloader always entails a certain risk (of hard brick), however slim. This is also clearly stated in the "triangle away" description and forum thread.
Since the knowledge of what exactly increments the counter is surely out there, I'd just like to avoid doing those things in the first place.
Can you confirm/deny my statements above? Like about odin/update.zip and so on?
TheCreat said:
Thanks for the reply, but I already know that. It will most likely be no problem to reset, but writing to the bootloader always entails a certain risk (of hard brick), however slim. This is also clearly stated in the "triangle away" description and forum thread.
Since the knowledge of what exactly increments the counter is surely out there, I'd just like to avoid doing those things in the first place.
Can you confirm/deny my statements above? Like about odin/update.zip and so on?
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Dear,
I know its risky but am using android since its early beging and never encounter a brick for my galaxy s2 i always use odin and triangle away and i dont have any issues believe me if you are having any issue in solving a little problem like this dont go deeper as u'll not feel the happiness of solving it due to your fears .. if i were you and am afraid i wont try .
Wish you the best
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moe.nassef said:
Dear,
I know its risky but am using android since its early beging and never encounter a brick for my galaxy s2 i always use odin and triangle away and i dont have any issues believe me if you are having any issue in solving a little problem like this dont go deeper as u'll not feel the happiness of solving it due to your fears .. if i were you and am afraid i wont try .
Wish you the best
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You are completely missing my point. I'd have to clear the counter after every flash that increased it, as I can't guarantee my phone would be in a state where I can do it the moment I do need the warranty. I know it's quite unlikely that something will go wrong and the operation results in a brick.
But why risk even that, if it can easily be avoided? I just need to know what exactly will and what will not increase the counter. Hence my skating for exactly that information.
Swyped on my Galaxy S2
you know i have rooted my phone more times than i can remember, versions of GB, ICS and now i use F1 Nexus ROM and i have always been able to get rid of the yellow triangle and reset the counter without any problems.
it is a jig solution, so i have 1 of those, then i have a an old bootloader file that is called 'oldbootloader' !!! thing is i dont remember where i got it from. anyway, every time after having rooted the phone, i just flash the oldbootloader in Odin PDA box, turn off the phone, plug in the jig and counter is reset, triangle gone. so far it has never failed.
Its very simple, you should have known this......
Flashing a non Samsung kernel / in secure kernel will do that.
Still there are ways you can flash in secure kernel without counter go up, but you have to be rooted and using mobile Odin.
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You are completely missing my point. I'd have to clear the counter after every flash that increased it, as I can't guarantee my phone would be in a state where I can do it the moment I do need the warranty. I know it's quite unlikely that something will go wrong and the operation results in a brick.
But why risk even that, if it can easily be avoided? I just need to know what exactly will and what will not increase the counter. Hence my skating for exactly that information.
Swyped on my Galaxy S2
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Any custom rom will increase your counter any root like CF root will increase ur counter if you are using a new non stock kernal it will increase the same .. the idea is if you reset the counter one time and then installed mobile odin app on your phone you want have any increase in the counter your whole life and also you will not lose the root and you can flash what ever you want you will not lose the warranty
And they will not able to find out that you one used a custom ROM i already sent my device to the warranty and they mentioned that i'm a noob and am treating the device in a decent way lol
Again ...
If you use your odin while flashing a stock os like xxlph it will increase nothing if you used a stock kernel nothing will happened but if you do so you will lose your root and if you lost your root and u wants to get it back it can increase except if you flashed the root kernel from the device with odin mobile or CWM .. forgot to tell also that if you installed any thing with CWM it will not affect your counter
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A very simple question. I wanna root my S2 (UK Sim Free ICS). I don't wanna use CF-Root Kernel. I wanna root it the way I rooted it last time, i.e. using an insecure kernel by Odia. Odia has not published any working insecure kernel for ICS (I have tried using various some kernels for 4.0.3 and some for gingerbread, none of them worked... obviously). So, all I want is an insecure kernel so that I can root it using ADB. I don't mind making an insecure kernel myself, if someone can teach me how to. Hoping for a quick reply.
Cheers
- me!
svarma241 said:
A very simple question. I wanna root my S2 (UK Sim Free ICS). I don't wanna use CF-Root Kernel. I wanna root it the way I rooted it last time, i.e. using an insecure kernel by Odia. Odia has not published any working insecure kernel for ICS (I have tried using various some kernels for 4.0.3 and some for gingerbread, none of them worked... obviously). So, all I want is an insecure kernel so that I can root it using ADB. I don't mind making an insecure kernel myself, if someone can teach me how to. Hoping for a quick reply.
Cheers
- me!
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I had the same version and couldnt find an insecure kernel. I went ahead with CF-Root and I had no problems. Why dont you want to use it?
Download Mode + Odin > PDA - CF-Root-SGS2_XW_XEN_LP7-v5.4-CWM5 > Ready to go!!!
Can I ask why?
Cf root adds root and it's own manager to the stock kernel. Nothing more.
I haven't tried it but I rooted one aosp non rooted ROM by using cwm and su zip. You can try it I'll post it when I get home
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Nevermind.
I did try CF-Root. I wanna keep my phone close to stock.. as much as possible. Plus I don't want CWM, so is there any way of rooting via CF-Root and then uninstalling CWM? I tried the ADB commands, but they don't work.
Easy fixed. Someone thinks they know what they're talking about (and is unable to use the search function or Google), yet they're expecting their hand held. Just another day on XDA.
MistahBungle said:
And you seem to be hung up on some 'But I can do it in ADB !" thing yet you don't know what commands to use ?.
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I know the commands.. I know how to root.. I just don't want CWM, not at all. Don't like it, Don't use it, Don't want it! I just want a simple answer to my simple question. If I wanted to do it via CF-Root, i wouldn't have started this thread!
ahem ahem.. Anyone?
oh man just flash the stock kernel back using odin!
http://skywanker.net/Download/download.aspx
darn.. i think i will keep my root for now and maybe when I can get an insecure kernel, I will root the phone using that.. Still hoping for someone makes and insecure kernel!
$#$$#$#$#$#@ thts for you (friendly)
you want root without anything use cfroot and than flash stock kernel back, either dont ask or try what has been said.......
atifsh said:
$#$$#$#$#$#@ thts for you (friendly)
you want root without anything use cfroot and than flash stock kernel back, either dont ask or try what has been said.......
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This is not what I started the thread for. I know how to flash, flash using CF-Root and how to flash an original kernel afterwards.. This thread is about finding a solution to my problem, rather than suggesting me alternatives, which I already know. I believe in asking questions, when I don't know something and exploring all the possible options. All I am trying to say is: I have tried what's been done and I didn't like it, so I am looking for a better solution.
Cheers
- me!
PS: As long as it is not something gay, a friendly $#$$#$#$#$#@ for you too
Lol those were cursing words....
Let me tell you one last time, if you know this than you are wasting your time....
When you flash cfroot you get root and the cwm manager. When you flash stock kernel back you are now 100% stock.
Cwm manager app left is like any other app you use, you want to get rid of it use root uninstaller or root explorer and remove/delete the cwm manager apk.
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Did you try the method described here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1501719
I did it myself today and it works just fine - no kernel flash needed, and root is now accessible. The only issue I have is that AdAway didn't seem to be able to write to the hosts file. No matter, I've gone back to AdFree which works okay.
atifsh said:
When you flash cfroot you get root and the cwm manager. When you flash stock kernel back you are now 100% stock.
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Flashing just the stock kernel will remove the yellow triangle (the one u see when u boot after installing an insecure kernel, like CF's) whilst keeping ur root.
atifsh said:
Cwm manager app left is like any other app you use, you want to get rid of it use root uninstaller or root explorer and remove/delete the cwm manager apk.
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Like i said initially, I want to root my phone without having to force install CWM.
ROOT = Yes...
CWM = NO NO!
I have tried removing it via many options, including ADB commands.. but nothing works. Have u personally tried removing CWM, if so then please share how you did that and that's all I want.
Thanks..
Mr Anderson said:
Did you try the method described here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1501719
I did it myself today and it works just fine - no kernel flash needed, and root is now accessible. The only issue I have is that AdAway didn't seem to be able to write to the hosts file. No matter, I've gone back to AdFree which works okay.
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Finally, a proper answer.
Ya, I checked out the option this morning. But haven't tried it yet. I rooted my phone using CF-Root and I have an issue with ad away as well. Anyhow, I was suspecting that this option would give u a temp root, as in after a restart it would go away.. is that true? Also, did it increase your custom binary counter? and what about the yellow triangle?
No yellow triangle because the kernel is unchanged. I doubt the counter has altered either but I don't know how to check it (or what it said before ).
The root is permanent and survives restarts.
Mr Anderson said:
No yellow triangle because the kernel is unchanged. I doubt the counter has altered either but I don't know how to check it (or what it said before ).
The root is permanent and survives restarts.
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amazing.. then lemme try and get back to u..
THanks : )
now you are acting stupid, im not going to post anymore,
flashing stock kernel back removes cwm and get you stock recovery back.
atifsh said:
now you are acting stupid, im not going to post anymore,
flashing stock kernel back removes cwm and get you stock recovery back.
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Oh.. thank God for u are gonna stop posting, as it is you have been of NO help.. Also, there is a difference between a stock kernel and a stock ROM. Flashing back with a stock aka original aka secure 'kernel' will just remove the yellow triangle, where as flashing with a stock ROM aka firmware, will remove everything.
Cheers
- me!
My friend has an S2 he wants me to root, and I'm having trouble.
I've tried the one click method from windows computers though they don't seem to work as he is on ICS.
The ICS alternative says reboot to recovery etc, though obviously he doesn't have recovery so I can't do that either.
Of course I'm going to be told to root it via flashing, though while following the guide, the phone soft-bricked and wouldn't turn on (yellow triangle) though luckily I found the Orange UK Restore Package and now it's back to stock!
When I tried to flash it said use the most similar kernel you can find, and so I did, and it didn't work!
The kernel he has is I9100PBVLP6 and there was not an insecure kernel of that available.
Can anyone help?
tomhurst said:
My friend has an S2 he wants me to root, and I'm having trouble.
I've tried the one click method from windows computers though they don't seem to work as he is on ICS.
The ICS alternative says reboot to recovery etc, though obviously he doesn't have recovery so I can't do that either.
Of course I'm going to be told to root it via flashing, though while following the guide, the phone soft-bricked and wouldn't turn on (yellow triangle) though luckily I found the Orange UK Restore Package and now it's back to stock!
When I tried to flash it said use the most similar kernel you can find, and so I did, and it didn't work!
The kernel he has is I9100PBVLP6 and there was not an insecure kernel of that available.
Can anyone help?
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Your friend has the UK Orange NFC phone. Use LP7 Insecure kernel.
http://download.chainfire.eu/158/CF-Root/SGS2/CF-Root-SGS2_XW_XEN_LP7-v5.4-CWM5.zip?retrieve_file=1
You will have the yellow triangle after flashing and your binary flash counter would have increased by 1.
You can use triangle away to remove the symbol and reset the flash counter to zero.
Or have a look at the Root/Unroot guide in my signature.
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bored_stupid said:
Your friend has the UK Orange NFC phone. Use LP7 Insecure kernel.
You will have the yellow triangle after flashing and your binary flash counter would have increased by 1.
You can use triangle away to remove the symbol and reset the flash counter to zero.
Or have a look at the Root/Unroot guide in my signature.
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That's brilliant! Thanks so much. I'll have to convince him to let me now. He doesn't want me going near his phone again haha
If your friend now doesn't want you to go to near his phone, let him root it himself or live with it the way it is.
Statements like "he obviously doesn't have recovery" when he obviously does lead me to believe you'll only damage his phone anyway.
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Your friend has the UK Orange NFC phone. Use LP7 Insecure kernel.
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So I just flash this under PDA? Will this give just root and no recovery?
oinkylicious said:
If your friend now doesn't want you to go to near his phone, let him root it himself or live with it the way it is.
Statements like "he obviously doesn't have recovery" when he obviously does lead me to believe you'll only damage his phone anyway.
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Why does he obviously have recovery? His phone is exactly how he got it. Unless they give you recovery now? I used to have a Spica (piece of crap) which I had to root in order to get recovery onto it. And he has no idea how to root and his phone is being slow and crashes a lot, so he wants to make it better, I told him a custom ROM would help.
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So I just flash this under PDA? Will this give just root and no recovery?
Why does he obviously have recovery? His phone is exactly how he got it. Unless they give you recovery now? I used to have a Spica (piece of crap) which I had to root in order to get recovery onto it. And he has no idea how to root and his phone is being slow and crashes a lot, so he wants to make it better, I told him a custom ROM would help.
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All new or old S2s should have recovery albeit stock 3e recovery," if they have not installed another recovery ". Try it!
Power down. Then at the same time press:- volume up/home button/power button.
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tomhurst said:
his phone is being slow and crashes a lot, so he wants to make it better, I told him a custom ROM would help.
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You told him bogus information then.
tomhurst said:
My friend has an S2 he wants me to root, and I'm having trouble.
I've tried the one click method from windows computers though they don't seem to work as he is on ICS.
The ICS alternative says reboot to recovery etc, though obviously he doesn't have recovery so I can't do that either.
Of course I'm going to be told to root it via flashing, though while following the guide, the phone soft-bricked and wouldn't turn on (yellow triangle) though luckily I found the Orange UK Restore Package and now it's back to stock!
When I tried to flash it said use the most similar kernel you can find, and so I did, and it didn't work!
The kernel he has is I9100PBVLP6 and there was not an insecure kernel of that available.
Can anyone help?
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Head over to here: http://www.sammobile.com/firmware/?page=3&t=1&o=1&m=GT-I9100&r=1#regiona, & find the specific firmware for your friends device & flash in PDA via Odin! (no need to find a seperate kernel to flash, as it will be included in the official firmware package!)
At this point you'll have no yellow triangle on your boot up splash screen, & no flash count!
Then head over to here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1501719 & root the device using the instructions given! (you'll need an external sd-card in your device to put the files on for rooting!)
Still no yellow triangle on boot splash screen, & also no extra flash count!
Finally, install Triangle Away from here "IF NEEDED": https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.triangleaway&hl=en, & "MAKE SURE" it gives the exact same flash count number as is in download mode, then click "Reset Counter".
Job done, official stock firmware with root (fast, stable & reliable!) with no yellow triangle or flash count visible!
What Samsung official firmware site? Even if such a thing existed why would the custom binary counter go up? Think about it. Also, OP already made it clear he's incapable of following those root instructions, as he apparently (and obviously) doesn't have recovery.
oinkylicious said:
You told him bogus information then.
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What will help then? If you're going to put me down at least be constructive please.
tomhurst said:
What will help then? If you're going to put me down at least be constructive please.
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What will help before you potentially brick your friends phone is to read the stickies.
Stickies here
Hopefully you might learn the basics of rooting/unrooting and installing firmware before its to late
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What Samsung official firmware site? Even if such a thing existed why would the custom binary counter go up? Think about it. Also, OP already made it clear he's incapable of following those root instructions, as he apparently (and obviously) doesn't have recovery.
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What will help then? If you're going to put me down at least be constructive please.
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It's just his way, don't worry about it!
1: This samsung firmware site: http://www.sammobile.com/firmware/?page=3&t=1&o=1&m=GT-I9100&r=1#regiona
Obviously exists eh!
2: As I mentioned in my (helpfull!) post, the method I directed him to uses temporary "Touch CWM Recovery" for him to get into to root!
3: The method he tried was the oneclick method! That's not the method I directed him to! (try reading the post properly before commenting, as you've so graciously pointed out to me in the past!)
I hope this answers all of your descrepancies oinkylicious!
CrackDaddy said:
It's just his way, don't worry about it!
1: This official samsung firmware site: http://www.sammobile.com/firmware/?page=3&t=1&o=1&m=GT-I9100&r=1#regiona
Obviously exists eh!
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Actually Samfirmware.com is an unofficial site, not endorsed by Samsung at all.
although it is where to get the Samsung firmware's for all their phones.
bored_stupid said:
Actually Samfirmware.com is an unofficial site, not endorsed by Samsung at all.
although it is where to get the Samsung firmware's for all their phones.
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Fair enough, well I won't split ends with you & thanks for the usefull information bored_stupid!
1) not official
2) it wouldn't go up "AGAIN" after flashing official firmware. Writing wrong information in CAPS doesn't make it right
3) I know, see 4)
4) he tried both and fell at the first hurdle.
Any more? Come at me bro.
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1) not official
2) it wouldn't go up after flashing official firmware.
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I got the not official bit m8, get over yourself!
Really, I'm trying to help the bloke & all you can pick up on is "NOT OFFICIAL"?? please!
Any more? Come at me bro?? How old?...........
The more you post, the more foolish you look. Flashing an official binary from download mode will not increase your counter.
oinkylicious said:
The more you post, the more foolish you look. Flashing an official binary from download mode will not increase your counter.
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& you're job on here I take it is to try & make people look stupid huh?
Like I said, how old?
Tell me something? what increases your binary count oinkylicious?
Flashing an unofficial binary from download mode. Such as CF-root or any of the custom kernels.
I just don't like people spreading incorrect information.
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Flashing an unofficial binary from download mode.
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I stand corrected & edited your honour, at last, something creative to say
You's da man, whoop whoop!
he said the phone wouldn't boot & yellow triangle!
yellow triangle as far as I know= binary counter gone up!
Apart from using a jig, for which he'd also have to flash an older bootloader coz the phone's on ICS & it wouldn't work otherwise, what would you suggest to reset it?
Not false information I'm giving m8, just trying to be helpfull, & I can't see in what I originally posted how I wasn't trying to be helpfull really!? But you obviously can